Those cupcakes aren’t gonna pay themselves.

Those of you who think ending the Cocktail Party will merely cost Georgia $3 million every two years, a sum that the school can easily afford, aren’t really thinking through the math.

The Dawgs will pick up a home conference game every other season, true, but will still be left filling a gap when Florida hosts in Gainesville.  That gap will either be plugged with a marquee home-and-home series, which means scheduling another road game without revenue, a neutral site game to replace a neutral site game, or a one-off home game against a cupcake.

Those aren’t free, peeps.

So if the school goes the cupcake route, you’re really talking about more than a three million-dollar swing in revenue in one year.  I don’t know about you, but where I come from, that’s considered real money.

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35 responses to “Those cupcakes aren’t gonna pay themselves.

  1. Mayor

    Wut? There is no gap. Georgia will be in Gainesville, FL playing FU in the even years and in Athens playing FU in the odd years. It works the same as UT, SC, Mizzou, Auburn , etc.

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    • Will Adams

      That’s what I was thinking too. The game doesn’t go away, the location just changed. So why would there be a need to schedule an additional game? I think the logic is flawed in this case. Which is honestly one of, if not the first time, I can say that about the posts on GTP.

      That being said, if I’m wrong, please explain how moving the series from Jacksonville to a home-and-home would require the Dawgs to schedule a different series with another team?

      I’m not for moving the game out of Jacksonville. I live in Jax and love having my Dawgs come to town every year. And I really do think the game being in Jax is something different that helps set us apart from most of the other programs in the nation. Other than the Red River Rivalry, I can’t think of another annual rivalry game that’s played at a neutral site. Ohio State, Bama, and Clemson don’t have that. Nor do any of the other big time programs in the SEC (other than FU obv).

      I know it’s been mentioned here before but, if Kirby really wants it moved because it’ll give the program an additional recruiting weekend every other year then, why not just allow the home team (for a given year) to host recruits in Jacksonville? Sure there will be a handful of tickets that would be taken away from the public to purchase but, is that really a deal breaker for both programs? OU and Texas were able to figure that out so why in the hell can’t UGA & FU? This solution seems like the obvious answer that’s never mentioned by either program which is just plain dumb to me.

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  2. 81Dog

    Bah. Where I come from, 3 million is a rounding error. You just pay for it, if you want cupcakes. 😉

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  3. Dawg93

    Sorry Senator but this doesn’t make any sense. If anything, going home and home with UF helps us schedule more good non-conf home & homes, setting up this type of schedule:

    In odd-numbered years:
    Home games: 4 SEC, 1 Power 5, 2 cupcakes
    Away games: 4 SEC, Ga Tech

    In even-numbered years:
    Home games: 4 SEC, Ga Tech, 2 cupcakes
    Away games: 4 SEC, 1 Power 5

    In the current setup, in even numbered years, we’ve had to do 3 SEC, Ga Tech and 3 cupcakes. This happened just last year with UMass, Austin Peay and MTSU all at home.

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  4. ATL Dawg

    I’m not following. How does playing in Gainesville instead of Jacksonville create an extra home game in Athens?

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    • There’s an extra home game in Athens every other year. But those arguing for moving the game generally argue that Georgia needs more home games every year.

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      • ATL Dawg

        The extra home game every other year would be against Florida. This arrangment wouldn’t create some other home game that we would have to fill.

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        • ATL Dawg

          If we were playing in Gainesville this year (instead of Jacksonville), we would still have 7 home games.

          And if we played in Athens next year (instead of Jacksonville), we would have an additional home game…against Florida.

          It wouldn’t create an additional home game slot that would need to be filled.

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      • Dawg93

        Maybe some folks have made this point but in reality that’s not what would happen. We would not add another cupcake, especially with how expensive those games are becoming. I think you’re misconstruing their “we need more home games” argument as saying that they want not only UF at home every other year but then adding another cupcake home game at home when UF is away. I don’t think that’s the case at all. I think the majority, if not all, of those making this argument are simply referring to getting one more home game (UF) every other year.

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        • We would not add another cupcake, especially with how expensive those games are becoming.

          They just did.

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          • Dawg93

            They did, but Charlotte fills one of the 2 annual cupcake spots that we will always have on our schedule. Looking at 2025, the year we play them, we’ll have 6 home games (4 SEC & 2 cupcakes). We play Tech, UCLA & 3 SEC teams on the road plus UF in Jax, if we stay in Jax.

            When I said we would not add another cupcake, I’m saying we won’t add a 3rd cupcake to our schedule.

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            • Look, I recognize I screwed the pooch on presentation here, but if Kirby really is trying to maximize home games for recruiting purposes, and if we’re supposed to shrug off $3 million in revenue every two years, why wouldn’t UGA add more cupcakes?

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              • ATL Dawg

                Kirby’s trying to increase the number of big home games. He’s not trying to increase the number of cupcakes.

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                • How does playing UVa in ATL, or scheduling home-and-homes against the likes of Oklahoma increase the number of home games?

                  And if you’re talking about increasing the number of “big” home games, why is Charlotte being paid almost $2 million to show up?

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                • Dawg93

                  Scheduling UVA in Atlanta is a way to avoid having to add a 3rd cupcake to the 2020 schedule.

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                • So, recruiting is not as big a motivator for scheduling as Kirby insists it is?

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                • Dawg93

                  Senator, I can’t reply to your post asking this: “So, recruiting is not as big a motivator for scheduling as Kirby insists it is?”

                  I think it absolutely is. But you’re equating Cupcake U. to the Univ. of Florida, which you know are two very different home atmospheres. If he was looking to just add home games, he would not have added UVA in Atlanta, nor home & homes with OU, UCLA, etc. Clearly he views having UF at home as adding a “premier” game to the home schedule, similar to what it will be like when we host A&M and Notre Dame this year.

                  Kirby has made it clear in his answers to the question about going home & home vs UF: he believes we’re missing out on an opportunity to show off our program, facilities, etc. in a big game setting.

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                • ATL Dawg

                  Playing a home-and-home against Oklahoma adds a big home game to the schedule.

                  As for playing Virginia in ATL, Kirby prefers that to playing a 3rd cupcake. The upcoming ATL games were scheduled because they wanted to add another power 5 team to the schedule for those years but it was too late to do it via home-and-home matchups.

                  They scheduled Charlotte for 2025 because, as they’ve said, they’re still going to have 1 or 2 non-power 5 teams on the schedule every year. Charlotte fills one of those slots.

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                • PTC DAWG

                  Agree, this is not rocket science we’re talking about here.

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              • Dawg93

                Why wouldn’t we? Easy – because that would go against the scheduling strategy we’ve recently developed, which is to schedule home and homes with other P5 “name” teams. Why did we do that? Probably some combination of 2 main reasons: to strengthen our CFP resume and to add more attractive games for season ticket holders.

                If Kirby’s focus was solely on adding more home games, we wouldn’t be scheduling games at UCLA, Oklahoma, etc.

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  5. Bright Idea

    Senator I’m taking your word on the $$$ since we’re overpaying Charlotte who won’t even have to fly but I’m still struggling to square why Kirby needs another home game to recruit when we’re playing some future games in the ATL. I guess home cupcake games aren’t as attractive to recruits and playing a name brand in ATL means no return visit to their campus. Scheduling seems akin to rocket science almost.

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    • ATL Dawg

      We scheduled the upcoming ATL games because it was too late to line up big home-and-home matchups for those years.

      We’ll continue to use the neutral site, kickoff classic type games in years that we decide we want to add another power 5 team to the schedule and it’s too late to do it via a home-and-home.

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  6. Austin

    This makes no sense. There is no gap. Just an actual home game instead of a “neutral site” every other year.

    Come on Senator you are better at arguing than this.

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  7. W Cobb Dawg

    Wait, what? Now we’re moving the Jax game to Charlotte?

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  8. DawgPhan

    Wait are we really paying Charlotte 2/3’s of what UGA and UF are getting for the cocktail party? that seems incredible.

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  9. Side note: kirby said he likes big openers, and CFA provides that regardless of opponents. It also helps build familiarity with Atanta, which I’m a fan of, if we can every 4 years or so, especially for the underclassmen.

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  10. We really need to go down to 75 teams, or less, and use regulation. That’s all I read in this.

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