So, a couple of weeks ago, Andy Staples delved into a serious philosophical issue.
This Popeye's discussion brings up a question. Is there another fast food place that comes this close to making the best version of a particular food item? Popeye's may not be the best fried chicken on earth, but it's damn close.
— Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) July 25, 2019
I’m pretty much with Andy on that, although I grudgingly suppose others mileage may vary.
Then came this wrinkle.
IMHO: Publix's fried chicken is the best because it's flat-out the best. But that $8 (or occasionally less) gets you a full 8-piece is also why it's the best. https://t.co/Attu1OwkSq
— Jerry Hinnen (@JerryHinnen) July 26, 2019
I had to object.
Kroger fried chicken is better. There, I said it.
— Senator Blutarsky (@MummePoll) July 26, 2019
Your chicken chatter is invited in the comments. Dig in!
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1) Popeyes is overrated
2) Publix >>>>>>>>>>>Kroger. In fact, Publix fried bird and tenders are the best in the chain biz.
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Publix spicy breaded wings, for the win!!!!
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Publix is one of the things I miss here in Texas
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Your first comment could be considered fighting words! Popeyes is great. That said, I am more a Publix than Kroger guy, but there are both excellent.
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Fred’s
Shiner, TX
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Maryland Fried Chicken in Toccoa.
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Kroger is very similar to MFC, in fact Kroger used to sell MFC.
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Well I’ll have to check it out, then. The true test will be if it has that distinctive effect on my digestive system that nothing else quite matches.
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I came here to suggest a different fried chicken joint in Toccoa. Anyone ever been to Bell’s? Seriously the best chicken I’ve ever had.
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I live in Toccoa and Maryland Fried Chicken is closed. Bell’s is still open and pretty dang good. Bell’s has lots of “stick to your ribs” food with straight out of the seventies, original decor and prices. Try the fried chicken with potatoes, gravy and fried okra with sweet tea and you’ll get out of there for less than $7.
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Owners of the Bell’s (and Golden Pantry) franchise are huge Dawg fans and good people.
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Just to be clear, Bell’s restaurant and drive-in is not the deli at Bell’s food stores. Check it out:https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/georgia/tiny-drive-in-best-kept-secret-ga/
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I know MFC’s location near Liberty Elementary and the little drive-through shack down on Pond (?) Street are history, but I thought I saw where he had a place on 145 right near the intersection with the bypass. It was closed when I went through there, but I assumed it was just because I was passing through at an odd time. Is that place also kaput?
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I think you’re right, that one might be open for breakfast and lunch. I live right downtown and don’t get over to Eastanollee much.
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Maryland Fried Chicken in Waycross, GA.
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Happy to see Maryland Fried Chicken represented here. Only 12 or so of them in Georgia
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Since, ya’ll are talking local options, if you’re on the road and in Charlotte, check out Price’s Chicken Coop. I had it once many moons ago, and don’t remember anything standing out about it, but locals rave about it. I need to give it another shot, but I’d like for my Georgia peeps to give it the Ol’ Pepsi challenge.
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The atom bombs were mistakes and accomplished nothing other than the unnecessary deaths of 120K+ civilians. We had approached the Japanese leadership to surrender. They wanted to keep the emperor but we told them no. We dropped the bombs and told them told them they could keep the emperor if they surrendered. Truman never explained his reasons for dropping the bombs. His administration later made up stuff about the Japanese preparing to fight to the death after a (unnecessary) invasion to save face. Bull Halsey, known for his hatred of the Japanese during the war, said it was a mistake. As did Eisenhower and MacArthur- 2 Republicans. I feel no need to defend the actions of a Democrat like Truman
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But what about their chicken?
HEB rotisserie chicken is pretty good. No Publix out here, and I usually support the local team (HEB) over Kroger.
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I have mentioned Gus’ World Famous Fried Chicken before…it’s off the chain Russ(pun intended)!
Back in Augusta, on the lower end of Broad Street, is an old Maryland Fried Chicken that I believe used to be owned by Theron Sapp!! Anyway, the lady that runs it now used to trade me a bucket of dressed bream for a dozen pulley bones…best pulley bones in the world!
Dredge any good fried chicken thru Texas Pete and ketchup and you will be amazed!
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I’ll have to check it out this fall. Thanks for the reminder. Looks like they have proper sides, too. How’s the fried okra?
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Decent but nothing to write home about…
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Well, allrighty then.
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This is not true. The Japanese were not willing to surrender. Dropping the atom bombs saved not only over a million allied dead, they saved over 5M Japanese civilian dead, if not double that number. It also saved the Japanese from becoming a bifurcated people, with the northern Japanese islands under control of communist Russia, and prevented what would’ve definitely become WWIII over control of the Japanese islands.
So… ya wrong.
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All the evidence is the govt was looking for a way out that allowed them to keep the emperor. Their navy and merchant fleet were gone. Most of their cities were in ruin. We could also have chosen a military target instead of a city like Hiroshima. As for Russian invasion, I understand that they had no intention of going beyond the Kurile islands. The stuff about 5M civilians and 1M being saved is Truman admin propaganda. Note, you’re not just saying I’m wrong but Halsey and MaxArthur who fought them along with Eisenhower
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All true. Alternatively, of course, we “needed” the ultimate weapon and a case study to drive the point home to the East and any else that would defy the U.S.
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dawgxian they got to keep the emperor but had to admit that he wasn’t a direct descendant of god. Surprisingly, this was a shock to the general population of Japan. In my opinion, using the A-bombs was justified. Not that doing so didn’t have a lot of negative ramifications. However, we were engaged in the second WORLD war in twenty years. That’s hard to grasp for a generation like ours that’s never experienced anything other than regional conflicts in faraway places. The total death toll worldwide, civilian and military was probably around 50 million. Don’t forget Japan invaded China and the Germans were deep in Russia as well. A lot was going on that is easily overlooked here in America.
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So fried chicken made you think about fried Japanese?
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I was trying to connect the dots myself. For the life of me I could not see how fried chicken and Hiroshima are connected unless the bomb destroyed a really fantastic fried chicken joint.
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Texas, I have no idea how dawgxian made the jump from fried chicken to the A-bomb. Just putting in my two cents.
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Think “the date the bomb was dropped in Hiroshima” as a reason for brining it up. But what that has to do with fried chicken, I don’t know.
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That was 8-6-45 for Hiroshima and 8-9-45 for Nagasaki. Today is 8-7 so he is either early or late to the party, but not on time.
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First available playpen, I guess. Beats me.
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Publix best fried chicken (had last night with new potatoes in cream sauce, white acre peas and fries corn) and fresh made sandwiches
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As far as chains go: Popeyes for bone-in, Zax for fingers, Chick-fil-A for nuggets
My preferred method for wings that I don’t see chains wanting to get into is the smoke-then-fry. Smoke the wings until they’re almost up to chicken temp (155-160F) then put them in a really hot fryer (350-375F) for 1.5-2 minutes to crisp up the skin. If the skin is crispy and you smoked long enough for the rub to really tack on, then you can sauce them without any problem too.
Bites like a deep-fried wing and finishes like smoked bbq chicken.
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I’ve got to try this. I always have tough skin when I smoke wings. My best method so far has been precision cooker > fryer.
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The hot oil will fix that skin real quick. Is the precision cooker worth it? Never tried it.
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Woth it IMO. I love it and use it regularly. My favorite two things to use it for are steaks and fish. It cooks both perfectly to however you prefer it and then you just finish to get your tasty exterior – grill, cast iron, whatever your preferred method is. Takes all of the guess work out of it. I’ve cooked a couple of ribeye caps (spinalis) using it recently and GD was it tasty. I prefer smoking pork shoulders, but I’ve used it occasionally for one of those when I’m going to be out and about and won’t have time to tend to the BGE every so often. Rub it down, put it in the cooker, and then whenever I’m a couple hours away from serving, toss it on the BGE with some smoke and try to get your bark there.
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What’s the precision cooker? I must have one if it’s a cooking gadget…..
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AKA ‘Sous Vide’. Look it up and I’ll bet you buy one later.
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Season your protein then vacuum seal it until ready to put in the sous vide.
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Get a Flame Boss for your BGE – amazing little gadget. Set everything up and forget about it until you get an email or text message from Flame Boss.
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I’ve perfected a SV Brisket recipe that only requires 3 hours on the Smoker to finish. I know some people think that takes all the fun our of it, but it certainly is helpful when you work long hours like I do.
Just got my 3rd SV, mostly as a secondary so I can do large meats in the cooler. Pork Tenderloin and chicken are some of my favorites as well.
Costco has boneless short ribs that are heaven after 72 hours in the water bath. Thank me later.
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You’re not doing it right then, smoke them, and occasionally put them over direct heat to crisp up the skin.
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Will definitely try this!! My smoked wings always have rubbery skin!
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I’m telling you this works so well. I’ve tried smoking them at higher temps to keep the skin crispy, I’ve gone really low and slow with them hoping the skin would cook through eventually. Frying for just 2 minutes fixes it all and since the smoke gets into the meat, frying the skin doesn’t mess up all of your smoke flavor.
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The low and slow before high heat is basically the same principle espoused by a fellow UGA alumnus, but he does them in the oven.
I’ve always just fry finished mine as well, but I may give the finish in the oven a try after smoking on the BGE next time.
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I must have been in a timewarp yesterday because I totally forgot about the playpen. But I’m glad to see someone mention Zaxby’s. I used to work at one in Athens. There’s been one in Waycross now for several years and I always make a trip there when I’m back home visiting my family.
A few things I remember most about working at that Zaxby’s:
1. The time I got food poisoning from eating some undercooked chicken. My first time ever having food poisoning. Spewing from both ends for 24 hours and thought I was going to die.
2. People would always call in orders to the Zaxby’s on Atlanta Highway then mistakenly show up to our location (W Broad St). Sometimes they’d leave to go to the right store, other times we’d have to fry up an order of 50+ wings or tenders or whatever.
3. The Sunday afternoon “church crowd” was the worst. All elderly people, they’d come in and move the tables around so they could all sit together. Then when they left they wouldn’t put any of the tables back, and they’d invariably leave a mess worse than any of the drunkards who came through the night before. And every single week they’d grumble about having to pay a quarter for a cup if they’re just drinking water.
Ah, memories.
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Spicy Popeye’s is the best chain fried chicken in existence. I’ve had better mom and pops though. I do like Publix better than other deli chicken for what it’s worth.
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KFC original ALL day long.
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Dude.
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Damn brother, I don’t believe I’d have told that.
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My kid tells me that is what “country people” eat. Can’t even get her to try it, guess she needs to keep up her image (friends). Oh well, more for me….
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I like it, too! Not my fave, though.
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Yeah, I’ll eat their original on occasion. Nothing else like it (for good or bad). I once almost broke up with a girl because of it. We were on a road trip and picked up some KFC on the road. As I’m driving and she’s eating, I watched her peel the skin off the thigh. Thinking she was about to eat it in one bite (like I would have), I nearly wrecked the car when she flung it out the window because of “too much grease”. She was pretty hot, though, so I got over that infraction after explaining to her she should just give it to me in the future.
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there wasn’t anything better than a bucket of the colonel floating on a raft down the Chattahoochee in the seventies. That with a case of Bud in a net dragging behind.
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Do you still use a dial up modem?
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30+ years ago the Pofolks in Peachtree Corners would open at 8:00 AM on game day and sell only 8 piece boxes of chicken and gallons of sweet tea
Excellent fried chicken
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I do miss Po Folks…what happened to them?
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There is a “Folks” over on Windy Hill and Cobb Pkwy not too far from The Battery. I haven’t been to Po Folks or Folks since the 80’s though, so I can’t vouch for this place’s quality either way.
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THAT FOLKS STILL DOES A SUPERIOR FRIED CHICKEN BUT i GOTTA GO WITH GOOD CHICKEN ON AMELIA ISLAND…RIP….SORRY FOR YELLING PHONE ISSUES.
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You can still find Po Folks across the Florida panhandle. Chicken and tea are excellent.
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For one WLOCP one year, we got breasts from a nearby Publix. The breasts were so large as to be off putting. Each one had to be over a pound of chicken. No lie.
Popeye’s, on the other hand, came through big even in South Bend.
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Dolly Parton breast no doubt
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Champys and Canes are the best. Period.
Popeyes holds its own but I’ve noticed varies based on location.
CFA is all around solid but I find that I’m more attracted to the service, the drinks, and the sauces than the chicken itself (that being said, nothing beats a CFA chicken biscuit in the AM on the way to a game; it just feels right)
Zaxbys is oversalted trash and I think less of my friends who tout it as anything worth writing home about.
I eat Kroger chicken probably once every other weekend and like it more than CFA and Zaxbys if I had to choose. Publix isn’t bad by any means but they pepper the hell out of their chicken.
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Canes chicken fingers are better than Zaxby’s but there are more Zaxby’s so I end up eating it more often.
Zaxby’s SHOULD be given credit for making a great advancement in chicken consumption by offering the combo meal of chicken fingers AND chicken wings. A greater “fusion” achievement, IMHO, than all the lame Asian fusion places that have overrun shopping centers.
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Agreed about Canes/Zaxby’s
One gripe about Canes is that they try to pump it out so fast on gamedays that the breading gets soggy and falls off.
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If you’re eating Zax wings and saying they are good that immediately negates your opinions on any chicken. If you’re just saying you respect the hustle of putting them in one combo, I guess okay maybe.
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Man I know I am gonna get roasted but I love me some church’s fried chicken. I like it better than Bojangles. Dont @ me.
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It’s cool Bro. There’s a Publix, Kroger, Bojangles, Popeyes, Ingall’s, KFC, two “country cookin'” joints, and several convenience store deep fryers within easy lunch distance from my office. There’s a Golden Corral close by as well and their fried chicken is beyond terrible. But….
In a tiny building with no seating in a not so great area of town is a Church’s. Not too salty, not too spicy, usually not too greasy, toss in some pickled jalapenos and Church’s is just as good as any of them.
I have to admit It’s been so long since I’ve had Kroger I don’t remember if it’s good or not.
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Church’s is usually good, varies greatly by location.
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A shout for Hog Heaven in Pawleys Island.
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The Crispy Chick on the West Side of Savannah by my grandparents house in the early 80’s had the best fried chicken. There may be some sentimental hyperbole in this statement.
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It was good chicken. I’ve never seen so much grease, though.
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I agree with Randall, that was some greasy chicken but dang it was good. We would drive halfway across town to get it.
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They were all over Savannah and up and down 16, and were gross and greasy as hell.
Since others were mentioned fingers and whatnot, figured i had to give a shoutout to the best fingers ever from Spanky’s!
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Back in the day when Hardee’s offered fried chicken, that was hands down the best fast food fried chicken. In an effort to streamline their menu and get back to their core, they dropped the chicken to focus on burgers. Of course now, many locations also offer tacos and other weird shit. Bring back the chicken!!!
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I’m not sure it was the best, but it was really good. They had a really good peach cobbler side, too.
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use to love their chilly dogs, they dropped that too.
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Hardee’s fried chicken was actually Roy Rogers Chicken and yes it was excellent.
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As a kid in the 70s and early 80s, I remember Krystal fried chicken being good. As for local joints, Top Hat in Columbus has great spicy chicken. It’s next to the jail, so on visitor days, a long line of greasy brown paper bags outside of the jail…
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Bojangles. All day every day.
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YAASSSSSS!
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Philistines! They do have pretty good sides, though.
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+1 for Bojangles. Just the right amount of heat, and the skin is properly crispy.
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I’m disappointed I had to scroll so damn far to find a sane person! Bojangles is the gold standard for fried chicken.
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I approve this post.
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Bojangles with it’s spicy recipe is the best. And in what is heresy to people who live in the state where I was born. It’s chicken sandwich is better than Chick-Fil-A’s. Don’t be mad, it’s true.
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Their chicken BISCUIT is better than CFA’s. CFA has a terrible biscuit; it’s mildly sweet and it falls apart. A biscuit is supposed to be buttery and flakey; you know, savory. The Cajun Filet Bojangles Biscuit is amazing!
But the CFA Spicy Chicken Sandwich is the best fast food sandwich there is.
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+1
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I live in Toccoa and Maryland Fried Chicken is closed. Bell’s is still open and pretty dang good. Bell’s has lots of “stick to your ribs” food with straight out of the seventies, original decor and prices. Try the fried chicken with potatoes, gravy and fried okra with sweet tea and you’ll get out of there for less than $7.
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Willie Mae’s Scotch House in New Orleans. Nothing comes even close.
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El Pollo Loco, amigos.
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Ditto!
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You win the internet comment of the day!
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Popeye’s spicy for chain chicken, Publix grocery store, and Gus’ Fried Chicken in Mason or Memphis overall.
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There are several Gus’ locations in Atlanta now. It’s even on Uber eats in the Chamblee area. Great stuff, but Hattie B’s is better.
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Public’s was the 1st and darn near only place to open right after hurricane Michael. Much respect to them. Their chicken is pretty darn good and then when you tack on 8 dollars it just can’t beat. I usually eat it twice a month
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Growing up there were many gas stations in the area that had a fried chicken deli. They included all the fixins, and you got tater logs that were a quarter wedge of a full potato, not some sissy mini spud. Each of these places put out a FAR superior product to any place that I’ve ever seen a commercial for, so none of those places have ever really impressed me. Additionally when you’re feeding a crowd around here, it’s Piggly Wiggly chicken every day and twice on Sunday.
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There is a Stuckey’s/BP station on 441 in Eatonton that still does that, at least they did last fall, used to stop in and just get 6 tater boats for a dollar. Cholesterol is a little high now, but man those things are good.
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Been there many a time, also excellent breakfast
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Haven’t been to a Stuckey’s in 50 years. I remember stopping on 75 with my parents on way to Florida and getting their chocolate milk shakes as a ritual. Are they still around?
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This is the only one I know of or have seen in a while.
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ugafidelis there is a Chevron just off I-16 near Soperton keeping this tradition alive and doing a pretty good job of it too.
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My Publix oversalts their chicken. And I like salt. Will have to try Kroger again, it’s been a while. Will also try the other Publix down the street.
I’ve become more of a thigh and wing guy, but I miss the Dolly Parton fried chicken breast from Carver’s Country Kitchen.
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My grandmother’s, in her cast iron skillet, drained on paper towels, for Sunday dinner. I miss that.
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Likewise my grandmothers in her cast iron skilletFor family reunions I think that sensitizes your taste buds, things are just better when you huddle up with family. My moms was a close second.
“Don’t forget to call you mama I wish I could call mine”
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Well, I was going to say my mother’s, but YES, this!! Frying your own chicken is a pain in the ass, but it beats the holy crap out of over-salted, over-breaded deep fat fryer chicken. Deep fat fryer chicken isn’t any good cold the next day as a snack, whereas mom’s chicken, if any was leftover, is a sublime snack cold the next day.
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Publix fried chicken is the chicken for me! Off topic – is anyone else getting highjacked when you click on comments, and the ‘your flash player is out of date’ page shows up? My flash player is not out of date. It only happens on this site.
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Yes, I get it occasionally too…MacBook Pro.
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Thank you for responding PTC. I’m using MacBook Air, so maybe it’s an Apple issue.
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I would say Popeyes and then Publix. Popeyes biscuits as well. Damn those are good!
We don’t have Krogers down here so I can’t compare.
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There is a Maryland Fried Chicken in Dublin, on the 442 Bypass right by I-16, Was pretty damn good last time I had was through there. Publix is better than Kroger. Zaxby’s used to be awesome, when they only had the chicken finger snack or the chicken finger meal, only 2 options and the chicken fingers were huge.
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This was back when they ripped off the Guthrie’s business Model. Once they had some success, the corporation expanded along with the menu, but the chicken quality declined. The pushed Guthrie’s out of business in GA pretty much. Last one I saw was in St. Augustine Florida – still great tenders.
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Agree, Guthrie’s was way better. There was one out near Comer or something for a while. Last one I went too, they were still good. They are still pretty strong in Alabama, one near Auburn.
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About the only thing I remember from freshman econ is the TA always using Guthrie’s to explain supply and demand curves!
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Speaking of Auburn, Tenda Chick there makes some damned good tenders.
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Ferguson’s Snack Shack. Lincolnton, GA. You’re welcome.
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Gas station fried chicken. Practically any gas station tops every fast food chicken.
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If you have the chance, try Krispy Krunchy Chicken at a convenience store near you. Better than Popeye’s, IMHO.
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I probably have at some point. In full disclosure, I was raised working in a little family owned gas station that served fried chicken, so I’m unabashedly prejudiced regarding the matter (don’t get me started on chik filet). At this point in my life, I kinda consider myself an aficionado of the gas station fried chicken nuances from town to town 😉
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I started my career long ago with the Extension Service, travelling around the state. Those small town gas stations and grocery stores were some hidden treats. I had forgotten how good they were. Of course, by the time we found one, we were usually starving.
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Looks like a detour to Clarkston is in my immediate future. Thanks!
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Golden Pantry Fried Chicken was pretty good back in the day. Or, I was just really drunk at 2:15 AM when we’d walk in and buy everything they had in the window.
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Shirley’s. Best fried chicken in the world.
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Popeyes
Tupelo Honey Cafe has fried chicken and biscuits that are ridiculous.
That is all, thanks Senator!
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Senator, have you lost your damn mind??? Kroger does NOTHING better than Publix, let alone delicious, juicy, crunchy fried chicken!
The next thing I know, you’ll be here saying PubSubs aren’t the cat’s pajamas!
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Publix’ chicken tender sub rules… especially when you toss the chicken in wing sauce.
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This. 100% this. Made even better by adding blue cheese crumbles. The Publix buffalo chicken tender sub with blue cheese crumbles is my cheat meal. If I were on death row, it would be included in my last meal request.
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I saw! That may be my favorite twitter follow! 😂😂😂
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If you have not tried it wife got me started on 5 grain Italian bread for publix sandwich, will never go back
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The 5 grain bread is amazing!
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You probably think that it is healthier because of the name (5 grains!), but it has something like 100 more calories per half sub than the wheat or white bread. It’s def the best, but for a reason.
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That’s what you get for thinking, Butch.
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Amen to that. The Vinings Kroger can’t even manage to sell fresh lettuce and the service is atrocious. (This is the Pen, right? Kroger has unions and Publix doesn’t) Conversely, the Vinings Publix is the best run grocery store in the world…. BUT, if you can get anybody to help you, the Kroger chicken is much better in an old school sort of way.
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Can I get an amen for Wife Saver …..in the day
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Amen. Still love the Martinez location and brought the family there recently on a pilgrimage to my hometown.
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Bell’s in Toccoa is awesome and everything is great especially the Fried Chicken! Maryland Fried Chicken in Toccoa moved to HWY 145 at the Toccoa By-Pass and is open for Breakfast and Lunch. I ate there last week and it too is very good.
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I love Public chicken tenders, but it ain’t better than Popeye’s. That said does anyone else feel that when your order at Popeye’s (especially through the drive thru) that your order is more of a suggestion (if they actually feel like giving it to you) as opposed to an actual order? Always reminds me of one of the Lethal Weapon movies. You always get f*&^%d at the drive thru. LOL
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If you haven’t tried Buckner’s in Jackson, you’re missing out.
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I respectfully submit H and H in Macon.
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The Bear’s Den in Macon beats H&H, but to each his own.
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The largest chickens that need to be fried are the Republicans holding up gun legislation that would go toward reducing casualties and frequency of shootings. Get rid of the assault weapons, except in police hands . They have no purpose in our society and don’t qualify as hunting weapons. Get rid of them! If you want to play with these weapons join the Army or Marines.
We are a country waiting for some idiot/mental deficient person to shoot up graduations and sporting events. Stop it now.
The Trumpeteer’s solution is to talk it into oblivion by “bringing the two parties together” or some other bullshit while some with AK-47s and US assault weapons are now planning and loading up while we await this continued tragedy not to befall us by dumb luck. Holy shit, Dawgs, that’s insane. This bastardization of the 2nd Amendment and reasoning thereof will end, but at what cost and how long before simple reasoning is embraced?
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sigh
Define “assault weapon” and make sure to distinguish what weapons aren’t made for assault. I’ll wait.
By the way, don’t own a gun, never have and likely never will so save your ad hominems in that department
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He can’t / won’t. For people like this guy, if the rifle “looks scary,” it must be an “assault weapon.” He couldn’t tell you the difference between a semi-automatic rifle or a rifle with selective fire. He couldn’t explain the difference if his literal life depended on it.
Remember, these are the same people who equate their feelings with facts. Not worth trying to reason with them.
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Agreed on all points, Devil Dog. He can’t legally purchase a firearm anyhow as he is an admitted user of marijuana. That’s a chickenshit law.
The solution is arming yourself and training regularly. These over medicated psycho fucks aren’t going away. Home invasions and car jackers are here to stay. You must look after your own security.
Ingles has good fried chicken. Publix fries good wings. “It’s true. Colt makes a heavy firearm.”
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Wrong boys! I was serving my country when yall were a gleam in your daddy’s eye. Before that I was Capt of my Rifle Team into college and grew up with all sorts of artillery in rural Sowega. I’ve busted more caps than you can possibly conjure up, fired most weapons including machine gun (30 and 50 cal), BAR, grease gun and other assorted weapons that have to be mounted on a platform (tank or Army Jeep) including the 105 Recoilless Rifle (at Ft Benning, !961) that had a side-by-side 50 cal machine gun used to place a 50 cal bullet through a tank turret before hitting the 105 button that sent the shell on the path of the last 50 cal bullet .
When I use the words “assault rifle” (or weapon) it means that it was built for troops to use in assaulting a position during war (using individual soldiers with automatic weapons and large magazines to spray, not aim, without having to carry a heavy machine gun). It has no place in a civilian’s hands and it was never meant to be a part of a Second Amendment that was provided in a day when such weapons weren’t even invented for war, much less available to idiots who don’t know weaponry and that can be used on you and yours.
I’m fearful that you yahoos don’t know what an assault weapon is and you certainly don’t know that has no place in a home(unless you conjure up a foreign invasion where you live).
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Nap, you and DIF must hang out together. He could post some funny PNG’s
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Whatever happened to DIF?
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He was a she.
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Minor point AK47/AR15 are best hunting weapons for dealing with wild hogs destroying crops and property, and yes I have had that problem on family farm.
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Oh, now you’re touting personal experience over the opinions of Rachel Maddow and Kamala Harris? Racist!
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There are plenty of hunting rifles that will take down the largest hog. There is no need of an assault, automatic fire weapon to do such. You are not a hunter if you use such a weapon.
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What did I say? Idiots think the AR-15 is a an automatic fire weapon.
Their feelings = facts. Actual facts are meaningless to people like this.
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I don’t know, I’ve found some scary information online.
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Trump outlawed bump stocks by executive order
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The should be outlawed. Civilians are rightly not allowed to purchase selective fire or automatic weapons, or through means of tampering, create an automatic weapon from a semi-automatic firearm.
Bump stocks seek to accomplish this through the second, though tried to get around the law by making it so the change was accomplished through an attachment and not mechanical tampering.
There’s letter of the law and spirit of the law, and bump stocks were in clear violation of the spirit of the law. Trump was right to outlaw them.
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Regardless of whether bump stocks should be legal or illegal, Trump shouldn’t has bypassed Congress. Granted he is following a long line of bipartisan use of executive orders to legislate from the Oval Office, but it’s still wrong.
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And after lecturing us on the wide array of weaponry mastered while saving us a hundred years ago with his magical, virtuous service to our country.
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L A M E ……..
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A single hog I agree but you are usually firing at a herd of 10+ first shot they run you have to put a lot of lead out quickly to bring more down. Yes I am a hunter. Thank you for your service
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Then dynamite the bastards and finish them with a .45 cal pistol.
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Cojones. I’ve been an outdoorsman my whole life. Firearms are a large part of that and IMO a necessity for rural/ agricultural living. I also think a responsible, vetted person should be able to own suitable firearms for sport, subsistence, or personal defense. Having said that, I bought an AR legally several years ago. It’s fitted with a very high quality optic and is arguably the finest all around firearm I have ever used, and I’ve used plenty.
The thing is, you’re right. It’s a killing machine. That’s what it was made for. I agree with you. These have no place in civilian hands. There is no militia in the United States anymore. You’re not going to fight the government with your AR. You don’t need it to enjoy shooting sports and it is not really suited to home defense. But the Genie is out of the bottle, there are tens of thousands out there. I’m open to suggestions for getting rid of them. What’s a good plan?
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Good article on American Thinker re INCEL. Never heard of it before but makes sense.
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It’s outdoorsmen like you and I, having respect for nature when hunting and are sporting with firearms that have to be at the forefront of stopping this madness.
Make it difficult, if not impossible for the mentally infirmed and troubled people of this world to possess them. The facile arguments made by some that these people can steal the weapons is not a reason to not place laws that prevent the further erosion of our society.
Change the laws for possession of assault weapons to one of registration as a souvenir weapon as is now legislated with restrictions on a souvenir weapon’s use only at a target range that protect the rest of us from someone getting the weapon and using it on others. Include security measures taken with that weapon that demonstrates that security (removal of firing pin, trigger lock, in a safe, etc) is in place for you to be able to vouch for it’s responsible use in your hands.
There are as many measures available as there are responsible people who wish to own such a weapon, we only have to marshal that reasoning forward by those who wish to be responsible, as most hunters are.
Assault weapons are not play things from a cowboy movie or war movie that some project themselves bravely into with reasoning that they can kill other people they dislike if only they can get their hands on it. Responsible people can, through reasoning with their neighbor and representative (elect someone at the grassroots level who has a reasonable plan going forward), but throwing up our hands and wishing it or calling those trying to change such madness as “simplistic, romantic”, or other weak-thinking epithets will not change a thing.
If some madman/weak-thought-process individual opens fire on you and yours in Sanford Stadium , what would your reaction be then? Would that have to take place before you would entertain fixing this stupid shit before it consumes us all? I can prove to you that you are not now protected there or in any large gathering of souls to the possibility of being gunned down. The first proof would be a demonstration that I can get to a rooftop looking down on Sanford. The second proof would be using a drone as a gun platform. Have any of you seen the video put out several years ago where a person strapped a 45 pistol on one and successfully demonstrated emptying the clip? Auxiliary legislation to gun possession would have to be used to lesson the chances for multiple shooting deaths at one event, much of it already being in place to prevent that from happening to our representatives in Washington. Wouldn’t you like some of the same rules in place to protect your families?.
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Don’t worry. It’s illegal to carry a gun in Sanford stadium.
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I do believe in reasonable regulation one area I think boths sides should agree on is clip capacity no one needs more than !0 rounds
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No one who knows anything about firearms calls a magazine a “clip.”** I can’t take anything you say seriously unless you can explain to me how magazine capacity affects the effective rate of fire of a firearm. Here’s a hint: It doesn’t affect the effective rate of fire at all. Not even a little bit.
**the usage of the word clip refers to metal clips that held seven rounds together that would be inserted into an M-1’s internal magazine. The ejecting clip would provide the distinctive “ping” sound when the soldier / Marine would run out rounds.
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Do know the difference was driving IPad had no idea what i was saying with magazine but understood clip
Magazine capacity greatly affects overall rate of fire you have 3 10 round magazines and one 30 round. Which fires 30 rounds first by the average person. If it fires one per second does no change rate of fire but that was not my point
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Goggled it a magazine is often referred to as a clip most common use is a banana clip understand not correct but what i called it as a kid
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The volume of a magazine does not affect, in any way, THE EFFECTIVE RATE OF FIRE.
If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know that the EFFECTIVE RATE OF FIRE is the number that actually means something.
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I want to fire the most rounds possible in one minute with a AT15 average shooter which will fire the most. Unlimited 30 round magazines or unlimited 10 round magazines. Rate of fire is not a issue i understand what that means
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Your statement, “I want to fire the most rounds possible in one minute,” shows that no, Wedflatrock, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
All semi automatic weapons have the same effective rate of fire regardless of the amount of rounds in the magazine. That means all semi automatic weapons fire the same number rounds in a minute as all semi automatic weapons. Be they pistols, carbines, or rifles, it doesn’t matter.
A 30 round magazine does not help you fire more rounds in a minute than a 10 round magazine. Magazine volume literally has nothing to do with what you say you want.
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Have you ever fired a weapon when the magazine is out of bullets you have to take it out and put another one in that takes time
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My brain literally hurts speaking with dumb people who think they know what they’re talking about who don’t. A semi automatic firearm typically has a 45 round effective rate of fire per minute, Wedflatrock. The volume of a magazine does not change this.
My 10 round S&W M&Pc .40 has the same effective rate of fire as an AR-15 carbine or rifle with a 30 round magazine. If you have less rounds in a magazine than you want, you simply carry more magazines. You’d be surprised how quickly someone can become proficient in dropping a spent mag and inserting a new one, back to condition one ready to rock and roll.
I could have your time down to a matter of seconds with little more than an hour of work, providing you aren’t an idiot. Which I’m not convinced of at this point, but I digress.
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We disagree but good debate on the issue go dawgs
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How is owning an assault rifle a bastardization of the second amendment?
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Don’t play firearm word salad with people who don’t know what they’re talking about; it’d A losing game.
No one can purchase an assault rifle. They are selective fire weapons and illegal for civilian purchase. The term “assault weapon” is a politically motivated phrase that in no way describes what a firearm is or does, which is almost always used to describe a firearm that “looks scary,” like an AR-15. It’s also been used as a marketing term by Colt or Armalite and other manufacturers.
Any weapon used to commit assault, whether it’s a firearm, a knife, or a baseball bat fits the definition of “assault weapon.”
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You’re the one playing firearm word salad. Assault rifle is a class of firearms originally made to selectively fire that combine the high power and range of a rifle with the compact handling of the sub-machine gun while splitting the difference in ammo capacity. You’re being deliberately obtuse if you insist there’s no functional difference between an AR-15 and an ordinary hunting rifle. Now I understand it’s difficult to legally define what is and is not considered an assault rifle, but don’t act like they don’t exist as a class of weapons.
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At the time it was written, such weapons weren’t contemplated. When we get to lasers that are untraceable, exactly what will be your position? You could be fried or your family could be fried or injured horribly for the rest of their lives with such a weapon, but for some idiotic reasoning , it can be conjured that that won’t happen. Bullshit, it’s happening now where lasers can blind pilots with many lives on board their plane and is being perfected for use on the battlefield by the individual soldier.
This thinking that assault weapons fill some use in a home or for hunting is insane.
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Why don’t they have any use in home defense?
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Because they “look scary,” and Cojones thinks that means more than actual facts about what the weapon actually can or cannot do.
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I know dude, I’m just getting a good laugh reading what he says. His histrionic opinions on guns and gun owners in general matter not one iota to me.
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“Look scary” “Assault weapon” “Semi automatic firearm” “Effective rate of fire” Hunh. All I’m getting out of this scintillating small dick contest is this:
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Shotguns and handguns are far better for home defense.
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“Trumpeteer’s solution is to talk it into oblivion by “bringing the two parties together” or some other bullshit”
“The largest chickens that need to be fried are the Republicans holding up gun legislation”
I know your a hardcore Dem and Trump hater so I take your opinions with a grain of salt. Why is it a bad thing to bring two parties together to solve this issue? Both parties have control in branches of the government right now. I am cynical enough to believe both sides will f it up and nothing will get accomplished even if they pass ‘meaningful’ legislation. I would applaud an honest effort.
Since you are a hardcore D and Trump hater, where was Obama during all the mass shootings? He couldn’t bring the D Senate and R house together (like Trump will do)? Why couldn’t the D’s just write the legislation they wanted when they had a Supermajority in Obama’s first 2 years? Mass shootings happened then too. It defeats your purpose to blindly blame Trump and Republicans. You have some good ideas in threads below but you are too partisan to be taken seriously.
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Trump’s words today reflect what he means by “coming together”. He said that getting rid of assault weapons was not politically viable and was off the table. His coming togetherness means more of the “hearts and flowers” rhetoric he has used in the near past shootings, not something solid that will curtail the problem, but insincere words used to mollify the disturbed populace.
Yes, I’m a Trump hater since before he was elected because he demonstrated before the fact that he was immoral and possibly amoral. He is not for the welfare of our country nor the people. He is concerned only with profiting on our country before he is out of office. The evidence for that stretches from Russia to the western lands of the U.S that he signs away every day and that belongs to we, the people. He has no patriotism or redeeming qualities to speak from since he avoided military service on several occasions at the same time that my brothers and I served our country. One brother is retired career military having served two tours in ‘Nam, as a spotter pilot during the uprising in the Dominican Republic and in the firezone of the 38th parallel when it was a hot spot. This doesn’t prove anything about my background except to ask “Who in hell gave this person the right to set himself above taking the same chances for his country that me and my brothers did (my oldest brother, deceased, was in the AF when the Korean war had just begun)? You must not think much of those now defending our country if you let that unpatriotic asshole get a pass on bonespurs (I was diagnosed the same with a bonespur in my heel when examined for active duty) and still believe he would defend our country with his life like all in the military are exposed. Trump doesn’t think he is subject to the same laws that you and I are even if he breaks them. Yeah, I don’t like him.
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So …
1) Russia!
2) No military service, unlike Billary, Obama, and every Democratic candidate except Tulsi and Pete.
3) He might profit from being a politician, unlike Billary who went bankrupt.
Great points, all. If there weren’t a global bipartisan conspiracy to cover up Trump’s crimes and make him look a lot like every other asshole politician, we might be able to get somewhere with this.
#OrangeManBad
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You are deliberately obtuse to think those words may constitute reasoning. Everyone knows the difference of paying a doctor to use a flimsy excuse to prevent going into service versus those who weren’t drafted at all. While my brothers and I went into service on a volunteer basis, our father was never in the service, but that has nothing to do with his being drafted and showing disdain for putting his life on the line while he thought that others should go in his place.
Trump is a draft dodger. Other draft dodgers who were called had a problem with their govt and moved out of country to avoid draft, but Trump paid to stay in the comfort of his home and country, protected and afraid. What a worthless wuss!
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I think I did a fair summation of your points. But on to your latest rant.
Trump was a rich kid. And like many other rich and connected kids of all political persuasions, he got out of being sent to the front lines. Some, like Bush, went into the National Guard. Some, like Clinton, got student deferments, tried to get into the reserves, and gamed the ROTC system by joining, but never entering, in order to avoid the draft. Whatever. I don’t blame people for not wanting to go to war.
Personally, it amuses me that people think you can measure your dick by whether you were in the military in a far off land shooting at people who posed absolutely no threat to the USA.
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And the best fried chicken comes after a round of golf at a Trump property. Perfectly salted with your tears….
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I treat fast food/fried chicken like I do cigars…only to be consumed on very select ocassions only (6-8 times a year). With that said, Tupelo Honey in Asheville is the best I’ve ever had. Mind you, this was 10 years or so ago, so I have no clue if it’s still as good now as it was then.
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Asheville is the only good one. don’t bother going to a TH in any other city.
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KFC Original Recipe is totally unique. There’s nothing else on earth quite like it.
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B/c it’s not really chicken you’re eating 😉
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The chicken comes from the same suppliers as all the other places being discussed here: Cagle’s, Tyson, Pilgrim’s Pride etc.
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Buckner’s ….exit 201 on I75 near Jackson, Ga. Little bit different in that is family style …sit with strangers and food is on a lazy susan in the middle of your table. Chicken is to kill for …crispy and consistently non-greasy. Don’t know how they do it.
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I haven’t been there but you are not the first to tell me this. I’ll have to stop in sometime.
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Back in the 1970’s, Helen’s on Broad Street. I still have great memories of the 1/2 fried chicken plate for lunch.
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+1 on Helen’s, although Strickland’s down the street served fried chicken once a week that was even better.
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You’re dredging up a lot of old good memories with this fried chicken discussion.
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I preferred the goat on Friday at Strickland’s, but I’ve always been a rebel. 😉
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The boss move was to order both the goat AND the fried chicken.
I should know. 😉
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Strickland’s is a great call, forgot all about that place.
If ever this far west of the Mississippi — Dinah’s Family Restaurant here in LA, CA (just north of LAX in Culver City) has absolutely dynamite fried chicken.
It opened in 1959 and is also known as the filming spot where German nihilists from The Big Lebowski indulge in the classic American fare of pancakes and pigs in a blanket.
On their milestone birthdays, about every 5 years, they roll back prices to 1959 as a nostalgic h/t along with a free classic car show in the parking lot. Pretty cool spot. But the chicken is the best in the city.
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Helen’s went away during my time in Athens. Replaced by a Taco Stand. Although I was a fan of the T-stand, I hated to see Helen’s go. She was a really nice lady who, along with simple comfort food, made you feel at home. That’s a big deal for Southern boys who cherish Mama. She even offered a meal plan for students.
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Don’t ever eat chicken that has been under a heat lamp. Just don’t. Especially you older gents who just might end up in the hospital.
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Korean fried chicken at OB Bear in LA. Straight up the best fried chicken I’ve ever had. As a native son of the South living in LA, I’ve it’s the only place I can find a taste of home in LA… Ironically in Koreatown.
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Fellow native son, give Dinah’s bird a try in Culver. I’ve heard about OB Bear, will check it out next time in KT. Thanks! Cheers.
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All this argument about the best chicken is making me hungry. I still have not found any fried chicken that would beat sitting at my mama’s South Georgia kitchen table eating her fried chicken, homemade biscuits and potato salad. Wash it down with some sweet tea and finish it off with her banana pudding. For me, the rest of these are all fighting for second place.
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I’m a rice and gravy guy with my fried chicken. The Sunday lunch at the Country Club of Elberton was the best fried chicken I ever had. It was a contest to see which preacher would let church out the earliest so they wouldn’t have to wait in line. Haven’t been in twenty years… curious if they still do that… any Elberton folks on here?
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As a kid, I can still remember when we got a new preacher who was long winded, the old ladies would make it very obvious that they were checking their watches. We were the early out church that got to the restaurants first. The Baptist down the street were typically much longer winded and had to wait for a table to clear.
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Yep…lol. We methodists always tried to beat the baptists to the front of the line.
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Exactly. We had 2 Methodist and many Baptist churches. Us Methodist always got the best seats at the restaurant unless we had a guest (or new) preacher who had not been properly educated by the good church ladies on timeliness.
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I think Cracker Barrel has some really good chicken, but the Publlix spicy chicken takes me to a place of bliss that my bride can only dream of.
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Champy’s with a side of tamales and a 42.
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RIP – Cleve’s in Doraville. Best “honey” fried chicken found anywhere. Sadly gone now. Teriyaki 101 comes close with their honey wings, though.
Weaver D’s when their cooking it up fresh for pure fried chicken. Also , Bolton Food Hall back in the day when it was fried chicken day.
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+1000 on Cleve’s. Fixe is a relatively upscale restaurant in downtown Austin specializing in honey chicken, biscuits, deviled eggs, etc. Expensive but worth it for a gourmet version.
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For Balls and Cowdawg above:
“everything and anything can be the ultimate killing machine.
The ultimate human killing either humans becoming killing machines or they’re being a killing machine that kills human.
For example humans are the best killing machines of other human being.
See the two bombs dropped on Japan during world war II by the US .
for example
Look up The Armenian genocide or the Jewish Holocaust.
The ultimate killing machine is humanity itself and remove one means of execution they’ll be another to take its place.
With knives outlawed in England or rental trucks in Paris undergoing double scrutiny and vetting when they rent one out or yours gets stolen if you happen to have a van.
Humans are very creative in their methods of exterminating large groups of people.
I’ll hang on to whatever means of self-defense I so desire and I don’t intend to explain why I need something to anyone thank you very much .
Cowdog you may proceed sir. Be the first to destroy your AK and set an example for all those that want to disarm but leave my shit alone. Just sayin’
This done on my new Motorola Z4 forgive all the errors and syntax but I guess you get my general drift.
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Paranoia will just get you more killings. You have been brainwashed into thinking you need such armaments to defend your home in America. A pistol is short and can be wielded much quicker to rid yourself of your “home invaders” than an assault weapon unless, of course, you wish to keep it near your bedside (it doesn’t fit into a gun safe under the bed). Using an assault weapon with a long barrel to catch on doors or furniture when running isn’t your best bet against a home invader.
But I know your “Pry it from my cold dead hands” bullshit “philosophy” mind won’t comprehend these instructions for best protecting your family, but I write for you anyway.
Btw, a movement has been started by veterans who have had to use these weapons protectively while in the service is underway to try to convince you military wannabes that veterans don’t need them in their homes so why should you – unless you are one of the sickos. I don’t perceive that you are since I tend to trust my fellow alums.
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For someone claiming to be a veteran, you know little next to nothing about firearms, Cajones.
If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know the AR-15 is not a “military weapon.”
I can’t take you seriously if you choose to remain this ignorant of actual reality.
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Corch, I’m not and never was military, but tell me this: If you move the
fire selector on an M-16 to “semi” does it perform exactly as a civilian AR-15?
Were you timed in training with semi-automatic fire as to how many rounds you could put on target in X amount of time?
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This is the “looks scary” argument. We can only live in a world in which things are what they actually are. One is a selective fire rifle with a much higher effective rate of fire and the other is a semi automatic rifle, which has the same effective rate of fire as every other single semi automatic rifle, even ones that don’t “look scary.”
An M16 or M4 are selective fire firearms. This one difference makes them completely different weapons, BY DEFINITION, than an AR-15.
There is no difference in an AR-15’s effective rate of fire than compared to any other semi automatic rifle on the market; even the ones that don’t “look scary,” like a Remington 7400.
Effective rate of fire is the only thing that matters. Say it with me: Effective rate of fire.
Magazine capacity doesn’t matter. The size or velocity of the round doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is effective rate of fire.
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If you knew what you were talking about, you’d know the M-16 was adapted from the AR-15. They are closely related. You going to tell me the M-16 isn’t a military weapon?
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Closely related doesn’t mean the same weapon. It’s like saying a military Humvee is the same as a civilian Humvee. They’re not. They’re closely related, but one is for military use and one is for civilian use.
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One advantage a long rifle has over a pistol is accuracy. It’s fairly common even for trained military and police to shoot 5, 10, or 15 pistol rounds at a person and hit … nothing.
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You don’t need a rifle in the close range of a house. You demonstrate that you have no idea of weaponry nor how to use it. A rifle is used for long range and a pistol is used in close.
Educate yourself to this by reading of the Moros in the Philippines and the invention of the 45cal used by the military for quick action to blow them out of a tent before they could swing a machete in a drugged state. No time to grab a rifle, point and shoot. When I was in the military, handguns were only issued to Officers and special duty personnel assigned when payroll was done by cash to enlisted men. When I saw my jeep driver firing beside me when I qualified for payroll disbursement to my men, I asked him what the hell he was doing since he was a CO (Conscientious Objector). His reply was: “Because, Lieutenant, I’m required to if I’m driving you to pick up payroll and the bad guys don’t know that I won’t use it. By becoming familiar with this weapon, I can load and pass the clips and loaded weapons as fast as you can shoot.” And he was a CO serving his country the best way he knew how, unlike Ole Bonespur who couldn’t face a bullet for his country.
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Someone had never received any Urban Warfare Training.
That’s you, Cojones. You’ve obviously never had any Urban Warfare Training if you’re saying stupid shit like this.
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You know nothing about me and chucking out what you think goes for facts is cover bullshit to your lack of feeling for those other than yourself. I’ve replied twice to your inane argument, but once again I’ll refute your nonsense: I was trained at Benning in crowd control including walking lock step to cadence with bayonets fixed and at a time of peak civil unrest, probably before you were born. My training went well beyond that, but won’t continue boring those who are bored with us both. I use these words only to refute your words that you sling willy-nilly to try to impress. Not sure you are trained at all and have probably gotten your info from a buddy with Army service.
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Boy do you have me pegged. All that time I spent on Parris Island, at SOI, learning Urban Warfare tactics, not to mention all of the other schools, I must have been a tourist? 🤔
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So now that you’ve established your bona fides on knowing the correct weapon to use indoors, why do you think the Pentagon disagrees with you? Why does the military in indoor environments train with rifles, rather than pistols? Why do SWAT teams bring their rifles when storming a building?
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Good points. Here’s a picture of the 82nd airborne clearing a house.
Would you say they’re using rifles because:
1) They don’t have access to pistols, which would be the better choice?
2) Army guys don’t know shit about rifles vs pistols?
3) Drumpf!
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No, dumbass, I was speaking of nonmilitary using them in their house quickly for an intruder. Are you as ignorant of this conversation that you keep introducing supercilious statements about military house searches vs the use of a rifle in your home at night ? There are millions of photos of training that have nothing to do with this conversation, but since you have no argument, you show pictures and change the words to confuse others.
You are off message kid.
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So a rifle is the most efficient weapon for a soldier or a policeman to use indoors, but a pistol is the most efficient weapon for anyone else to use indoors? And your support for your position is that you once shot a 50 cal mounted on a truck? Wow! That certainly is an amazingly nuanced position. You may want to lie down after coming up with that one. The ole hamster’s going to need to rest.
It’s like you’re playing 4D war games!
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That’s some outdated thinking right there. A short barreled or carbine length rifle outfitted with a red dot or a holographic reflex sight are excellent CQB weapons with better penetration than any pistol round.
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It’s not so much outdated thinking as it is plain damn ignorance and arrogance. 27 rounds from a standard magazine in an AR is much better than any pistol.You have triple the foot pounds of energy with added benefit of a 55gr FMJ 5.56 doesn’t over penetrate sheetrock as the eurotrash 9mm. Do some research. Box O Truth is a good website.
You rock,Mad Mike.
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You fuckin’ people are a menace. You may not even be functional people.
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That’s what the old ladies up the road used to say about my neighbors and me. Then the NEGA Drug Task Force raided their MS13 connected immediate neighbor for dealing meth. Then they’re all,”Will you teach me how to shoot?”
Really? Do you have a fire extinguisher and know how to use it?
Can you change a tire?
Are you even a member of AAA? No? Stop wasting my time.
LS, go check the air pressure on your Prius’ spare tire and fill up a gallon jug of water in case of a house fire.
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LOL, weakest insult ever Lone Stranger.
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You’re right on that, which is why I rock Lake City M855.
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Lake City 5.56 sets the standard for 1:9. If I do my part it’s sub MOA and near 100% reliable.
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It’s an AR, AHD, a much better platform than the AK. And I’ll not be destroying it anytime soon. What is more likely to happen is it will be taken away from me under threat of incarceration at some point due to others that are already out there being misused (What an understatement). If you own one the same will happen to you. Since mine was purchased legally and there is a record of it it won’t be a problem to find. I could hide it, report it stolen, etc. to keep it but once they are banned even possession becomes a crime. But rest assured, there will be enough that aren’t confiscated to remain a threat.
You’re dead on, Humans are very creative in methods of of exterminating large numbers of other people. The examples of mass homicide you give were either state sponsored or condoned and the platforms Cojones and I are talking about were designed and used by governments as instruments of war. Because of the design and it’s effectiveness a weapon of this type has the ability to kill and injure on a much greater scale than Grandpa’s deer rifle, the shotgun you keep behind the door, or the Glock in your glove compartment. Why allow one person the the ability to affect or end the lives of so many so easily? That’s the issue I have with the general population having access to a battle rifle with little or no screening or training.
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It’s a good thing civilians don’t have access to a high rate of fire “battle rifle” (I think the term you’re looking for is assault rifle, which denotes a selective fire rifle made specifically for military use), Got Cowdog, isn’t it?
You keep repeating the lies, I’ll keep batting them down.
The AR-15 is a semi automatic rifle with the exact same EFFECTIVE RATE OF FIRE as any other semi automatic rifle available on the civilian market. It is not an assault rifle. It is not made for military use. It looks like a military weapon for marketing purposes, but there is absolutely no difference between an AR-15 and a Remington 7400 or 750 in its effectiveness to put rounds down range. The only difference between them is cosmetic, and again, that’s for marketing purposes.
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No, I called it a battle rifle for a reason. Am I lying when I say that the AR-15 has the same capability as an M-16 to send the contents of it’s magazine downrange in semi-automatic mode?
I understand your “effective rate of fire” better than you apparently give me credit for. I also know that in 30 seconds you can put significantly more rounds on target with an AR-15 than you can the Remington you mention. Bring your paycheck and your 7400 to the range and we’ll talk.
Anyway, I get your point about select fire rifles already being illegal to own without proper licensing. You continue to throw out the “Looks scary” argument. I would say they all look scary when pointed at you. What I’m driving at is that some weapons have a great deal more destructive capacity than others and should be more carefully controlled.
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A battle rifle is more along the lines of an M-14 or FAL. Select fire capable,magazine fed firing a full size 30 caliber round.
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My bad I meant AR.
I’ll give you another example of mass killings.
Bastille day France 202 people were injured 84 died the most children that were ever killed.
My grandpa’s deer rifle was used in Vietnam. Remington model 70. I’m
sure you’re familiar with it. My Father hunted black bear with it. Ive killed two deer with it. The second along a power line at what some hunters might consider a most respectable distance.
I dont hunt. I respect the ecology of deer management and the skill sets needed. I hunted as a youth to please my Father. Most fun I had with a gun was beating my father in skeet tournaments. Rapid fire .45 matches he had few equals
At the end of the day, I dont need Balls in My gun cabinet in the name of mass shooting prevention.
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As a responsible gun owner and hunter, you should be first in line to keep guns out of the hands of as many as possible who can do damage to you, your family and the family of other people you know in your social circles. You should have enough self responsibility and for others that you would want to be in those shooter’s minds and gun cabinets.
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The Va Tech shooter killed 32 with a .22 pistol and a 9mm pistol.
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Assault pistols.
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The point? He walked directly next to them and popped ’em in the head. And there was no one around to oppose him for 2 hours.
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The point is while people are talking about rifles, it can be argued that they are no more or less deadly than any other weapon.
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Los Pollos Hermanos in Albuquerque is really good. Ask for Gustavo.
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No mention yet of Gus’s? Fantastic fries chicken.
Oh, and Publix chicken is over peppered garbage.
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I’ve seen a few mentions for Gus’ above. Hot chicken has def made it’s way to Atlanta in the last few years. Gus’ is far superior to Hop’s (Ponce City Market) and Richards (Krog St) But I still think Hattie B’s is better. It’s the one place that I left thinking the hype was real.
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I’ll ha d to check that out
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Publix wings are great and excellently priced.
There is a place here in Chattanooga called Bea’s. Been open since the 50’s and it is the best fried chicken I have ever had. I mean, they even sell the t shirts to back it up.
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Wow have not been there since the80’s is it still all you can eat with the lazy Susan tables
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Yes, good to know its still there!
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Still lazy Susan and still all you can eat. The twin boys who’s dad ran it back in the 50-70 now own it.
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Bea’s is amazing
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I’ve mentioned before, the now defunct Pap’s Fried Chicken in Sylvester. I miss the 12 piece gizzard, fries and roll. Now, we just have a KFC/Taco Bell. Rumor of a Zaxby’s coming. Working as I do in east Albany, I’ve become fond of the Maryland’s Fried Chicken on Oakridge, it’s closer than the one on Slappey. While we’re frying up ideas, the Tuesday plate special at Fat Boy’s BBQ in Sylvester consists of 2 mighty fine fried pork chops, greens, rice & gravy and a cornbread square.
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Had Sunday Dinner at Jackson’s Soul Food there a little more than a year ago. The sweet tea was so sweet it made my pancreas hurt.
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Paps was built and owned by a friend of mine and classmate, Jim Andrews. I attended Jim’s funeral 10 yrs ago (he is buried in the Sylvester Cemetery) and his son probably took over management. Jim was a great fellow and athlete, would literally give you the shirt off his back and was loved by many people. He was one of the first people I looked up at his place of business when moving back to the region from Ca. He was insistent that he give my wife and I a big bag of his chicken and I agree that it was great.
Jim also owned Kitty’s Swap Meet in the pecan orchard across from the tire manufacturer in East Albany. He came from a great farming family and his two brothers were the same class of my older brother and the oldest was in my sister’s class, later marrying my sister’s best friend. You struck an old memory chord.
My brother (retired near Sylvester) gets his BBQ and Brunswick stew from Fat Boy’s and it’s the best. We look forward to sharing some with them when we visit.
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I know the Jim Andrews family well, his daughter and I are same age. Ran with his son in my younger days, we had some good times. Hell, all of Worth County knew Jim. He also had a fish market across from the courthouse in Sylvester and, I believe this is right, an oyster bar in Albany?
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To go a little off topic here, but does anyone remember the fried chicken from Carvers Grocery? Good stuff.
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I mentioned it above, and I saw another shout out to the Dolly Parton chicken. Good stuff!
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While I typically shop at Kroger, occasionally I’ll go to Publix to get potato salad, something Publix does much better than Kroger. I bought some Publix fried chicken during one of these excursions, and it was pretty underwhelming. I have to agree wit the senator about Kroger fried chicken.
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Lol. Publix is way better than Kroger. And it’s not even close.
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i’d have to stand by publix. but the best fried chicken i ever had was in vieques, puerto rico, oddly enough, when i lived there for a summer during my college days. something about it. don’t believe the spot’s there anymore.
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Not a chain but the now closed (maybe re-opened?) Chick-a-Dee in Camden AL. Used to be great chicken biscuits in the am & legit fried chicken.
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It feels like we are playing 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon here today. We are somehow connecting Fried Chicken to A-Bombs to AR-15. What are the final 3 in the string and then please explain to me how they all connect. Each Wednesday the Good Senator points us in a direction and turns us loose. I realize it’s the PLAY PEN and it’s a free for all but it seems that we have a lot of “squirrel” moments today.
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Ivery’s in Thomson is awesome!
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The old Wife Saver on Highland Ave. in Augusta was unbeatable! It was managed by Mason Boler, whose younger brother Sylvester played LB for the Dawgs and was 1973 Peach Bowl MVP as a freshman. The original Wife Saver was also famous for making the pimento cheese for The Masters!
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The Wife Saver in Martinez boxed up bloody chicken one too many times for my parents… But my real Wife Saver story involves driving around Augusta with my Atlanta girlfriend freshman year in UGA, and she was bewildered… She thought Wife Saver was a shelter for domestic abuse victims!
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I am friends with the owner. His dad founded Wife Saver. Chris tells a hilarious story of when the Augusta National told him they would no longer be getting the pimento cheese from him. ( They thought they could duplicate it themselves and increase their profit). When they couldn’t duplicate the taste they came to Chris and asked him for the recipe. For free! I won’t repeat what Chris said to them because I couldn’t do it justice. Let’s just say that Chris is one of the few people that have told the Augusta National to : “kiss my ass”.
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Gurkha, “chicken man” is also a dear friend of mine, and his pimento cheese is very good, but Palmetto Cheese out of the Low Country of SC, blows his doors off!
Had Chris sold his to grocery stores, he would be a member of the ANGC!
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man, prince’s hot chicken in nashville would be something to try before the vandy game: https://bittersoutherner.com/video/hot-chicken-joe-york#.XUsrxJNKiRt .
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try to do both. prince’s & hattie b’s. both delicious. can’t wait for 8/31.
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When you go to the Vandy game, be sure to get a hot chicken sandwich at Hattie B’s. It is a REVELATION.
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For home protection I have a 12 ga loaded with #6 shot. At close range the pellets are densely packed and will blow a nice big hole in a bad guy. However, as they begin to spread each pellet is not carrying much energy and will not penetrate the interior wall of a home. So stray shots will not kill your family members hiding in other rooms. If you start pounding away with an AR 15, the high velocity rounds will go through walls like they were tissue paper. They will also penetrate exterior wall and possibly kill a neighbor. Definitely bad form. Just something to keep in mind.
Also consider making the first round, a less lethal round. Just in case that noise you heard downstairs is your son or daughter sneaking back into the house.
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This is patently untrue. The .223 or 5.56 rounds will not go through walls like paper. 9mm rounds would.
The media and stupid people keep perpetrating these lies so much to the point that even smart people believe them.
When it comes to home defense, an AR-15 is far safer than your average handgun.
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I say again, Box O Truth. I’ve duplicated some of the experiments. Similar results.
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I agree with Cojones above about the evil Republicans blocking common-sense gun legislation. Wealthier people can afford more guns that poorer people. We will never be able to forcibly confiscate and redistribute the wealth in this country so long as those rich assholes can defend themselves. It’s just common sense.
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Exactly. While guns are terrible, obviously the government needs guns to threaten to kill the private citizens who won’t voluntarily turn in their guns. So guns should be concentrated in the fascist Drumpf administration. For safety.
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A 5.56 won’t go through 2 layers of sheet rock? Bullshit. Of course a 9 will also penetrate the wall. I wasn’t comparing an AR 15 to a 9mm pistol, I was comparing it to a shotgun loaded with #6 shot. I’m not putting down an AR 15, I own 3 of them and love shooting them. Just saying #6 shot is safer inside your house.
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I think you’re right. Anything that will go through clothing, flesh, and bone will go through walls. And vice versa. So #6 is both safer for your walls (and any family behind them), but it’s also safer for intruders. It’s more likely to wound than kill.
But my choice is closer to you. I have a .410 in my closet with defensive rounds that should be adequate. I figure it’s a happy medium between a rifle and a medium caliber handgun. And my wife (and even my preteen daughter) can handle it without any problems.
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Hevi-Duty, made by Environ Metal (HEVI-Shot) is frangible shotgun ammo made for home defense. Comes in #4 and 00.
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Reply meant for Corch.
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I just had Cracker Barrel fried chicken and liked it, but Publix is where it’s at. I also highly recommend putting some sriracha laced honey on the fried chicken. It’s outstanding.
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Let’s talk Cuban Food. As a Tampa Native, (going back several generations), I can say nothing beats the food and atmosphere of old Ybor City.
Brocato’s Sandwich Shop in Tampa (Best Cubans).
La Tropicana (Best Deviled Crabs and Stuffed Potatoes). This place is a gem. Cash only for years (may still be) and was owned and run by the Cuban Mafia. EVERY major politician who has visited Tampa (both parties) has been there. I’ve met Governors, U.S. Senators, and seen a few Presidents there. You just need to go and see this place.
Grand Daddy of them all? The Columbia Restaurant. The original.
Spanish Park was another one (long closed). I could eat Cuban food 5x a week.
I think the definition should be where would you jump on a plane and fly to…just to get food..and come home…
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Best Cuban Sandwich in Ybor City was at the Silver Ring Cafe. I have eaten at the Columbia Restaurant in Sand Key 10 times in week before. It NEVER gets old. You need to specify that it is Spanish Cuban though. Afro-Cuban cuisine is different. Good Cuban food is so hard to find out side of Tampa. Mojitos in Norcorss is pretty good, but it isn’t the same.
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As scattered as they were I enjoyed yesterday’s discussions. I left work a little early and went to visit my Father on the farm. I ran a few rounds through the AR, had a couple of beers on the tailgate with Pop, and stopped by Kroger on the way home for some chicken. At home, I watched a documentary on the bomb, and read a couple of chapters of “Killing the Rising Sun”. Here are my takeaways:
The AR will penetrate two sheets of 5/8 OSB at 300 meters. Resting on the hood of the truck I was able to put 10 rounds on a six inch circle in 7.53 seconds at that range. I cannot do that with my hunting rife. I do not recommend firing an AR-15 inside of or at a house. Or another person. Just sayin’….
Kroger fried chicken hits the spot if you’ve been talking about it all day and are hungry. Is it the best? I can’t say. It’s pretty damn good, though.
8/6 was the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. I’m guessing that’s how the topic came up. By the time the bomb was ready, Japan was beaten. They knew it and we knew it. We could have isolated the country with a blockade and starved them into submission, but how many more would have starved to death than were killed in the two bombings? An invasion would have cost American lives, regardless of how many. Was nuking Japan the best option? Probably. Would I have made that choice? Thank (insert your deity here) I did not have to.
Best thing? I’m glad my Dad is still around to drink beers on the tailgate and shoot the shit about rifles, cows, tractors, and football. His prediction is UGA runs the table this year and takes the whole thing. I am down with that.
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Weaver D’s in Athens, awesome fried chicken (and equally good home made banana pudding !)
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