August 13, 2019 · 7:19 AM

A simple question

Dear NCAA,

Is it possible for someone to obtain two transfer waivers in the same year?  Asking for a friend.

Sincerely,

SB

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36 responses to “A simple question”

  1. 81Dog
    August 13, 2019 at 7:38 AM

    Tate Martell’s adventures are becoming the first season of a reboot of Sliders. Where will he end up on his next dive into The Transfer Portal? He’s just trying to find his way to a startinjob at QB!

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  2. Mark
    August 13, 2019 at 7:50 AM

    Word is that J. Fields is not sweeping all before him at Ohio State, at least not early on. Wonder how Martell would have done had he stayed?

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    • Joe Dash (@Dashlok)
      August 13, 2019 at 11:03 AM

      The difference is that Miami plays a week early – Diaz had to honestly name his starter so they could install a game plan.

      Day can say that the competition is open all he wants. But Fields is working with the first team and Hoak is working with the 2’s and 3’s. Day is just trying to push Fields.

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  3. JCDawg83
    August 13, 2019 at 7:58 AM

    I’m fairly certain this story will become more of the rule than the exception going forward. When a kid is told from sixth grade on that he is the greatest football player to ever live and his identity as a person is based on his being the best football player, he will refuse to accept the reality that he is not the best football player when he is forced to compete with other elite athletes. Most four and five star players are usually the best player on the field for either team for their entire pre college football careers. Unless they go to an IMG type academy where other elite players gather, they will probably never face another player with their ability for their entire middle and high school playing careers.

    The transfer portal gives these kids the perfect tool to avoid facing the reality that they are not, in fact, the greatest football player at their position of their time.

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  4. Granthams replacement
    August 13, 2019 at 8:05 AM

    There’s still time to enroll at Auburn……

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  5. Macallanlover
    August 13, 2019 at 8:07 AM

    I have to admit it is enjoyable to see underdogs defeat those who ran from competition elsewhere rather than stay and fight for the job. Not saying Martell and Fields don’t eventually succeed (who knows?), but if both lose out because of non-injury related issues it might serve as examples for those inclined to always look for the greener shade of grass. My exception to this is graduate transfers who have fought the good fight and see too little time to prevail. Martell, seems to be a real head case at this point.

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    • TN Dawg
      August 13, 2019 at 8:28 AM

      I’m not sure I lump Martell and Fields in the same pile.

      It’s pretty obvious that there is an established, excellent QB at Georgia that has had success and is only likely to get better. It was a realistic assessment for Fields to see he wasn’t going to start and that his career at UGA would largely hinge on whether or not Fromm decided to leave school early or play out his eligibility. I also see Eason the same way, he didn’t really do anything wrong other than get injured. It’s more akin to Jimmy Garoppolo leaving the Patriots for a starting job rather than sitting around hoping TB12 would retire.

      Martell, however, left an open QB competition between himself and an unproven transfer.

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      • Morris Day
        August 13, 2019 at 11:31 AM

        Did he leave an open competition? Or was he told “hey buddy, the portal’s right over there, might be best if you explored it”?

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        • TN Dawg
          August 13, 2019 at 12:09 PM

          I guess when I say open competition, I’m getting at the idea had no established returning quarterback, as Haskins is off to the NFL.

          Perhaps OSU told Martell to transfer, I don’t know.

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          • Morris Day
            August 13, 2019 at 12:45 PM

            Yeah, I’m just thinking there’s no way Fields went there without being promised the starting job. Maybe, Martell was given the courtesy of a “heads up”. It all smells rotten, if you ask me.

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      • Macallanlover
        August 13, 2019 at 10:54 PM

        I lumped them together because they both had made commitments and chose to leave due to not being willing to fight for the opportunity to overcome competition. Martell, may, or may not, be contemplating doing this twice (after running his mouth to Fields in social media.) Yeah, I hope they both get beat out in their safe, happy place of choice.

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    • ThunderDawg
      August 13, 2019 at 8:59 AM

      I hate losing to Bama as much as anyone, but, for anyone who isn’t a Dawgs fan, the Jalen-Hurts-comeback-making-Saban-cry story is primo college football. Dude showed a ton of character, especially with his dad pressuring him to transfer, and now he’s getting a real chance to make it into the NFL by learning from the best offensive mind in the game. I wish it wasn’t at our expense, but those are the stories that make this game special.

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  6. ilini84
    August 13, 2019 at 8:23 AM

    From Manny

    “I don’t really care. I want to find some guys that are all for the U. Guess why? Because that’s how Miami won in the past. And I don’t care what guys are ranked in recruiting. I don’t care what guys have done on our team. We’re going to win with guys that love the University of Miami. That has been proven over and over and over again.’’

    If a quarterback should transfer, the Canes still have newly arrived 6-4, 204-pound freshman QB Peyton Matocha, out of Houston, Texas, on scholarship; as well as 6-4, 215-pound redshirt junior preferred walk-on Carson Proctor, a junior-college transfer who formerly played at Arkansas as a walk-on and looked very sharp in spring practice. Redshirt sophomore Augie DiBiase from Ponte Vedra is also a walk on, as well as redshirt freshman Ryan Rizk out of American Heritage in Delray Beach.

    Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article233778377.html#storylink=cpy“

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    • Joe Dash (@Dashlok)
      August 13, 2019 at 11:11 AM

      Those quotes were said in response to a question asked last month – not immediately after naming the starter. Their inclusion in that article is pretty disingenuous imo. Sure it is related in subject matter, but it seems much more inflammatory towards Martel because of the national narrative right now.

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  7. Jared S.
    August 13, 2019 at 8:24 AM

    What a goober. Man up, son.

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  8. TN Dawg
    August 13, 2019 at 8:42 AM

    If my son was a dominate quarterback, frankly I would advise him to go play at whatever college he really wanted to go to, not the glitziest school that comes calling.

    Guys like Carson Wentz, Ben Roetlisberger, Joe Flacco, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jimmy Garoppolo, Josh Allen, Case Keenum and Derek Carr all went to schools that would not be considered premium gigs, and yet they will all be starting on NFL opening day.

    If you have talent, they’ll find you. The key is to play and put your talents on display.

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  9. JCDawg83
    August 13, 2019 at 8:56 AM

    I think I’d advise mine to go to the SCHOOL he liked the most and to view the football as nothing more than a tool that allowed him to attend the college he wanted to go to. If he truly was “a dominant quarterback” he would start wherever he went and the NFL would find him. If he wasn’t “dominant”, the NFL would see that too, no matter where he went or whether or not he was the starting qb on his team.

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  10. Russ
    August 13, 2019 at 9:03 AM

    Yeah but what does his sister think?

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    • Admiral Sackbar
      August 13, 2019 at 9:30 AM

      I just watched the first season of QB1 recently and I gotta say… Tate’s family is kind of a shit show. All I saw was a mom who coddled him and a dad with obvious anger issues. But I did feel bad for his sister when those high school boys were heckling her at one of his games. No girl deserves that.

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  11. Texas Dawg
    August 13, 2019 at 9:38 AM

    Martel is the poster child for watching what you put out on social media. After his VERY public “don’t swing and miss a second time” comment, it is ironic that he has swung and missed a second time. Maybe he is not as talented as he thought he was, or maybe the other guy just outworked him. Martel may otherwise be a good kid, but he reminds me a lot of Johnny Manziel with his swagger. For his sake I hope that is as far as it goes.

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  12. BuffaloSpringfield
    August 13, 2019 at 11:07 AM

    For what’s its worth………….. Number 1 reason kids are not participating in sports is they don’t have the money. Consider the fact that travel baseball, little and senior leagues and the Little league World Series are money makers. But not as expensive as AAU basketball or College football or basketball camps, never mind the cost involved in the 5* camps held in LA, Atlanta, Houston where the kids invited but he lives on the left coast and comes to the Atlanta Nike Opening…..to gain points towards 5dom.
    11-13 year old travel baseball uniform, bat, glove entry fees are close to $1,000 per kid not counting snacks, drinks, parents driving from point A to point B, gas, 2 night hotel room each for about 12 weeks. AAU and Football camp even more money.
    AAU coaches knock down 6 figure salaries from shoe companies who as we have just seen have bag men assistant colleges coaches have their players dropped on the door steps of Nike and Adidas schools.
    Martell like the Ball brothers in LA are just a products of such environmental team and family perceptions of grandeur.
    Forgive me because my aging forgetful mind this young mans name left me. A commitment to UGA football, offensive lineman who never has had a FB account, Twitter or Instagram account. Has not done any 5     openings and plays only with his high school team in such preseason scrimmages.
    I am way past my prime but in Little League companies in our town sponsored 10 different teams, bought our uniforms, I bought my first Louisville Slugger for $9.99 and a Hank Aaron signature Rawlings glove for $16.97 both of which I still have. Everyone in town played pretty much all 3 sports. Some of us were good some were better but we had a hell of a time. Two guys on my LL baseball team went on to play college football and I was lucky enough to get a scholarship to play small college basketball.
    You set the tone for the market place for these kids and college coaches sometimes offer 150 scholarships knowing they can only sign 23-25 or if your in Mississippi 34 kids.
    The way we act, the way these kids parents act is just a sign of the demographics of our time. We are separate and anything but equal and please not expect anything from sports or politics to get better before it gets worse

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  13. Go Dawgs!
    August 13, 2019 at 11:30 AM

    Looks like he swung and missed.

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  14. MGW
    August 13, 2019 at 2:12 PM

    Dude runs like his hair’s on fire; could make a sweet slot receiver.

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  15. Mayor
    August 13, 2019 at 4:32 PM

    Straight answer: I think the literal wording of the rule allows that. Convincing the NCAA to grant a second waiver….that’s another matter.

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