Your 9.11.19 Playpen

Ben Watson was not the droid Laura Ingraham was looking for.

That was… awkward.  Have at it in the comments.

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  1. Cynical Dawg

    Benjamin Watson is a DGD. He schooled that horsey-faced Reich winger. She couldn’t wait to get him off the air!

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    • Ben

      Be careful assuming his politics. If you dig around, he’s got some views on parenting and religion that are a bit right of center.

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      • Derek

        Many of “those people” do have conservative views. Unfortunately, the conservative party in this country has calculated that there is far more value in attracting dumb white voters with racism than welcoming people of color who would otherwise agree with them on substance. Roughly 93 to 95% of black people in America are not flaming liberals. They’ll keep voting for Democrats though because the GOP knows that failing to do things like protecting the “honor and dignity” of Jefferson Davis could lead their racist base to either stay home or, ever worse, vote for Democrats on economic issues…. you know like they did before the Voting and Civil Rights Acts.

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        • dawgxian

          you are correct about the racists roots of progressives but you should also look at LBJ’s comments about blacks after signing the Civil Rights Act. “The ________’s will vote Democrat for the next 400 years”

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          • Derek

            And? If you are suggesting that democratic support for those pieces of legislation was driven by an unprincipled, craven need for political power, it’s pretty clear 50 years on that such a calculation, if it existed, was pretty fucking stupid.

            Before those passed and in 1964, LBJ got 486 electoral votes and 61.1% of the vote. What Democrat came anywhere near that since?

            Personally, I was hoping that after Barack Hussein Obama comfortably won two elections that the GOP would drop its “southern strategy” of playing to dumb whites fears and prejudices. Instead, they doubled down on it. Who knows now when we’ll see that finally end and people actually vote based on what they think is best for the country rather than on how they identify themselves?

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            • Jim

              Typical racist liberal b-s.

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              • Derek

                Typical “I can’t formulate a cogent written thought so I won’t even try” moron.

                Why don’t you try a meme at least, idiot?

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                • Jim

                  I know you are but what am i? How about that buddy?

                  Hope your tantrums since 2016 have been worth it because people like you are going to be what leads to 4 more years!

                  Nice work….\

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                  • Derek

                    Thanks for giving me that power. It’s well-deserved and well-earned. I’m expecting a call from Tom Perez any minute since it’s all about ME!

                    Idiot.

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                  • AthenHomerDawg

                    Yes but you should be thanking Derranged Duh’Wrek. Because without his constant Trump Derangement Syndrome and whining, the good Senator would not have felt the need to start a playpen. Brilliant move imho.
                    Just sayin’.

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                    • Derek

                      “Athen?”

                      Did you know trump runs a child sex slave operation out of a pizza parlor and was born in Africa?

                      That’s deranged ya moron.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Wasn’t it so stupid to assume there were pedophiles at high positions of authority? Who ever heard of such? If any person were ever arrested, we would probably hear quite the story while he bargained for leniency. It just wouldn’t happen.

                      Of course, the greatest threat to the world is obviously a Manchurian candidate who was elected president.

                      Dumbasses.

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      • Berdawg108

        Sweet Jesus, no. His politics don’t match exactly with mine? Burn him, I say.

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      • rugbydawg79

        Me too

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    • Normaltown Mike

      “Reich winger”

      Godwin’s Law in the opening post. A new record!

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    • jt10mc (the other one)

      I guess all conservative white people who are blonde and blue eyed…are Reich wingers…btw do you know what NAZI stands for????maybe you should look it up.

      btw2 – I am conservative in both the politcal and social sense…does that make me a “Reich” winger?

      btw3 – I am not white nor blonde nor blue eyed…

      ASSumptions…

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      • PoliSciDawg

        I see what you’re trying to do there. Yes, Nazi was short for “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” or “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.” However, it was the 1920s, and they included the word “Socialist” to undercut support for the Communist party (“Hey, check us out! We aren’t nearly as crazy as those Commies!”).

        In reality, the Nazi Party was about as Socialist as the Democratic Peoples’ Republic of Korea (North Korea) is democratic. It’s just a name.

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        • Napoleon BonerFart

          You should read some of Hitler’s positions on private property. You might just change your opinion on the economics of Nazi Germany.

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          • PoliSciDawg

            Political Economics was never my strong suit, but you got me curious. It looks like there are some competing theories about it, but I did a quick search and found at least one scholarly article that posits that Nazi Germany in the 1930s may have done a fair amount of rationing, but generally allowed private industries to do what was best for their businesses.

            From the extract of “The Role of Private Property in the Nazi Economy: The Case of Industry” by Christoph Buchheim and Jonas Scherner in The Journal of Economic History, Vol. 66, No. 2 (June 2006):
            “Private property in the industry of the Third Reich is often considered a mere nominal provision without much substance. However, that is not correct, because firms, despite the rationing and licensing activities of the state, still had ample scope to devise their own production and investment profiles. Even regarding war-related projects, freedom of contract was generally respected; instead of using power, the state offered firms a number of contract options to choose from. There were several motives behind this attitude of the regime, among them the conviction that private property provided important incentives for increasing efficiency.”

            That’s the best research you’re gonna get from me at the end of my work day! Time for dinner!

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  2. dawgxian

    Ben Watson has done a lot over the years to bridge the gap between races. He is a responsible, prolife conservative that functioned as a voice of reason during the Mike Brown/BLM lunacy. I think he missed out on what’s causing the wealth gap between black and white families, however. The involvement of fathers and marriage has become very different between the 2 since the 1960’s. When you filter data to compare married families, much of the wealth gap vanishes. Throwing cash at the problem doesn’t do much

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    • spottieottie

      Maybe the “involvement of fathers” is negatively impacted by the racism that has pervaded our criminal justice system:

      Between 1980 and 2015, the number of people incarcerated in America increased from approx. 500,000 to over 2.2 million.
      Blacks are incarcerated at more than 5x the rate of whites.
      Blacks and whites use drugs at similar rates, but the imprisonment rate of blacks for drug charges is almost 6x that of whites.
      Blacks represent 12.5% of illicit drug users but 29% of those arrested for drug offenses and 33% of those incarcerated in state prisons for drug offenses.
      Blacks are almost twice as likely to be pulled over as whites – even though whites drive more on average – and blacks are four times more likely to be searched following a traffic stop.
      A 2015 study found that black women – who made up 6% of San Francisco’s female population – accounted for 45.5% of female arrests.
      The black arrest rate for disorderly conduct, drug possession, simple assault, theft, vagrancy, and vandalism is twice as high as the white arrest rate for the same offenses.
      In Jacksonville, black residents are three times more likely to receive a citation for a pedestrian violation than white residents.
      Whites make up 45% of New York City’s population but, over the past 20 years, have made up less than 15% of the city’s marijuana arrests.

      I mean, the list is pretty lengthy:
      https://beta.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/

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      • JCDawg83

        I’d say those statistics point to the very high likelihood that blacks break the law more than whites do.

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        • Derek

          You can’t read can you? Sad!!

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        • stoopnagle

          You need to read more.

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        • South FL Dawg

          No. Just no. I’m not even black and when I see the statistics I wonder what in the heck is going on. I mean what if….just maybe…the more black people that go to jail, the more likely other black people are to be found guilty? What if it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy? Numbers that skewed are begging for an explanation. Not that this has anything to do with Ben Watson.

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          • dawgxian

            I’m all for ending the drug war and think it would help some. But, doing so is not going to make these men start taking off their kids and just as importantly the mothers of their kids. We have to deal with the consequences of the sexual revolution as well as the drug war (and the minimum wage). Should be noted Mr. Watson is a husband also

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            • South FL Dawg

              I don’t disagree with any of that. One thing I wish we could do is to graduate more young adults from high school with the ability to get a decent paying job. It would help single mothers as well as everybody else.

              Some ideas:
              1. Revamp the high school curriculum so young adults can acquire a marketable skill by the time they graduate high school.
              2. Tax reform (starting with US companies that repatriate to Ireland and other tax havens thereby paying zero US tax.
              3. Raise the minimum wage.

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              • Napoleon BonerFart

                Raising the minimum wage just raises unemployment among unskilled workers. And nobody tries to raise a family on minimum wage anyway. It’s just for teenagers learning skills.

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                • South FL Dawg

                  Read everything I said…..we must graduate people from high school with a marketable skill. And they need to be paid a living wage. It’s 2 things.

                  Let me also make you aware that there are plenty of people that have to get by on a sub-living wage and they aren’t teenagers. Think of women that were raising children and all of a sudden find themselves in the workforce. This can happen to anyone’s family just by the death of the principal breadwinner. There’s a quote, “there, but for the grace of God, go I” that is appropriate here.

                  Let me give you another example of a job that pays dirt cheap and it absolutely can’t be done by teenagers – nursing assistants and caregivers. In South Florida – where a ton of the population is elderly and needs those services – those jobs pay between $10 and $12 per hour. Now that’s not minimum wage, but the average rent for a 1 bedroom apartment is $1500. The math doesn’t work.

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                  • Napoleon BonerFart

                    People with skills are paid a living wage by the market. There is no need for minimum wage laws to force what is already happening.

                    And yes, an unskilled mother suddenly forced into raising a family on minimum wage would be tragic. Fortunately, it rarely happens. And I don’t think making public policy on rare, worst case scenarios is very wise. For example, imagine a meteorite slamming into your head while you’re walking down the street. It could happen. Maybe we could have mandatory helmet laws for everyone going outside in order to prevent the senseless tragedy of death by meteorite.

                    Only 3% of people employed earn the minimum wage. And most of them are young part-time workers who live with family. They’re using minimum wage jobs exactly as they’re intended. To learn skills enabling them to command a higher wage.

                    Finally, minimum wage laws ignore the laws of supply and demand. An employer will not pay an employee more than he is worth on the open market. So, if an unskilled worker is worth $12 an hour, he will not get a job at $15 an hour until he learns skills to raise his worth to that level. But what minimum wage laws do is prevent him from working. Minimum wage laws state that, if you’re not worth $15 on hour, you can’t have a job at all. That just seems cruel.

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      These aren’t binary issues. When you look at wage, you have to also look at taxes.

                      That person making minimum wage pays sales tax on everything because he has to to get by. Somebody else making more 2x or 3x or 4x can afford consumables and still have money left over. The person making minimum wage can’t deduct rent, but the person making 4x can deduct mortgage interest & property taxes. Second home…same deal. While they’re at it they can make the 2nd home a yacht, hold it out for rent and it becomes a business expense.

                      The point I made about corporations that offshored their profits you didn’t even touch. If you work for one of those companies, in theory they can pay you more because their taxes went down. Meanwhile if you work for a US shored company, you’re still making the same as before because your employer is paying taxes. Not that those offshored companies are sharing equally….nosiree, they are mostly paying the execs and not the rank and file.

                      There are also 5th amendment tax returns. Say you make $10 million but it costs you $100K for your expenses…..you report $100K and that’s that. As long as you made the money in a way that it didn’t get reported to the IRS, they don’t know. These taxpayers walk into an IRS audit wearing a t-shirt and jeans, but that’s not how they are the rest of the time.

                      Now, I’m not naive to think that tax reform is coming. It’s not. But the more the money flows up, the more welfare that gets paid out. That person that you think won’t get a job if the minimum wage goes to $15 will now be on welfare. What’s the point? That’s what people that are against raising the minimum wage need to think about (and I’m not saying it should be
                      $15 but it should be higher than it is). Remember, who will pay for those welfare programs is everyone, so again it will be regressive. The wealth gap just grows and the middle class keeps shrinking.

                      Anyway maybe it clicks with you or maybe not, but that’s all I got time for.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Wages are paid by employers based on labor market conditions. Taxes are taken by the government. They are unrelated, aside from each having a financial effect on citizens.

                      Yes, the minimum wage earner must pay sales taxes, which may impact him more heavily than a worker earning a higher salary. Of course, you’re ignoring the progressive income tax system where minimum wage earners pay little, nothing, or even pay negative taxes from tax credits like the earned income tax credit.

                      Offshore companies are likely trying to minimize their tax burdens. Although that has nothing to do with the wages they pay. Wages are set by the labor market. Just because Google is profitable, the janitors aren’t earning 6 figures. Because janitors just don’t make that much anywhere. Conversely, an unprofitable company doesn’t pay CPAs $20k a year because the labor market dictates that CPAs can command more than that.

                      It is true that people who can’t earn money in the labor force will end up on the government dole. I fail to see how the solution to that is to raise the minimum wage, thus forcing even MORE of them onto welfare.

                      Hopefully some of this information can resonate with you. Economics can be counterintuitive.

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      I’m not seeing the reply button down below so I’m just replying here to your last message about economics being counterintuitive. So, I don’t know if they are or not….maybe you can say that about the tax system too. I try to keep things shorter than the subject usually requires. When it comes to the money people get paid, I tend to talk in terms of take home pay because that’s what most people understand.

                      The reason I brought up minimum wage was to go along with the revamping of high school education; I proposed them together. You didn’t like that minimum wage is mainly for young people, which I have to admit is the majority opinion. However, I’m in the minority that wouldn’t be upset if teenagers make more money. Maybe they use it so they don’t end up with $100K of student loan debt. If there’s one thing I don’t mind spending money on, it’s education.

                      There’s one other thing where I maybe didn’t say enough so here goes. Taxes paid – or in this case not paid – by corporations that repatriate profits are very relevant to the economic discussion. Repatriation makes it harder for companies at home that do pay taxes to compete. We’re losing our home-based employers which isn’t helping wages. We both agree that companies that have repatriated profits away from the US don’t just decide to pay higher wages out of the goodness of their hearts, so their tax savings are accruing to the owners. Less money for labor….more money for the owners. This is at the core of economic theory.

                      This is why so many folks are getting left behind. The economy is chugging along, but not everyone is participating. It’s not like raising the minimum wage is going to fix everything because it’s not just that class of workers that have been affected. But in all honesty, whatever the solution looks like is probably going to include increasing the minimum wage because that’s easy for everyone to understand. There may be some grandfathering for small businesses.

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      Huh whadda ya know – I click up above, and my message shows up below!

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      Hey NB, you raised a good question about how to get people off welfare.

                      A few years ago a friend sent me some study he found that anyone making less than $30K or so per year was better off being on welfare. There was actually no incentive to work for less money because of available welfare programs. Mind you the study I’m remembering was several years ago so things have changed, but $30K per year is about $15 per hour; maybe this is where the $15 came from.

                      This next thing is intuitive so maybe I’m wrong, but raising the min wage should help some people. Say the min goes up to $15 – that affects everyone between $7.25 and $15 directly. In addition, employers should boost pay for people making from $15.01 up to a little more. Those workers have more disposable income and are less likely to need welfare.

                      But it’s a legit concern for some businesses whether they can afford it, so I do worry about that. Better pay, but less jobs.

                      In the end, I think the question of how do we get people of welfare is not exactly the right question. I would rephrase it to how many people can we get off welfare. Because I don’t think we’ll ever see everyone off, nor would that be a good thing. Striking the right balance is hard though.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Take home pay is certainly important. But it’s a combination of two unrelated things from two independent parties. Employers set gross wages. Government sets taxes. If the government increases taxes, employers can’t immediately rally to shore up workers’ take home pay. Employers only pay what they can pay.

                      Personally, I take no position on liking or disliking who makes minimum wage. I simply recognize the fact that most minimum wage earners are young, single, and unskilled. And I would absolutely love if those people could earn more money. Good for them. But that’s not accomplished by passing a law. It’s accomplished by those workers learning skills that will command a higher wage in the labor market. Similarly, lawmakers could pass a law declaring that everyone can fly. But that doesn’t make it so.

                      Your misunderstanding of economic theory is that the economy is a zero sum game. More for business owners means less for workers. It’s a common fallacy. But it’s not true. Jeff Bezos created one of the largest companies in the world through innovation. And Amazon’s market value made him and his investors very rich. And it also enriched his employees. And it also enriched his customers by making goods cheaper and easier to obtain. And the great thing about it is that Amazon’s market value wasn’t taken from other people. While some creative destruction does take place, the net effect is positive. A rising tide lifts all boats.

                      Yes, workers are being hurt. But not by the minimum wage. As I stated before, the number of people who need to provide for a family on a minimum wage income is a small fraction of a small fraction of workers. A simple thought experiment showing the fallacy of raising the minimum wage is to imagine raising the minimum wage to $100 an hour, or $100k a year. Would everyone be better off? Or would unemployment spike because an employer just can’t pay $100k to a worker who can’t generate that much value to the firm?

                      Much more important to worker welfare is government taxation, spending, and the Federal Reserve imposing the regressive hidden tax of inflation on every man, woman, and child in the country.

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      Whoa – who said anything about the economy being net zero??? What I said is there is more wealth for owners and less for workers; I stand by that. The economy overall has expanded, but the additional income has accrued disproportionately to those 2 classes. Let’s look at it.

                      Say a company successfully repatriates profits so it avoids US tax, which is an example I like to use because there’s only small percentage of our population that isn’t being hurt by this. Tax avoidance is legal and hundreds of large US companies have done this. But what happens to workers? In a free market economy, wages aren’t dependent on tax fluctuations. Thus, the tax savings accrue to the owners who can invest it into the business or take out dividends or stock buybacks. That’s wealth flowing to the owners.

                      Meanwhile what happens back home ….businesses are forced to cut prices to compete with those companies offshore who don’t have to worry about paying taxes. For the companies lowering prices in the US but who must still pay taxes, they have to cut some other expenses. Since labor is a big chunk, labor bears the brunt of it. At the same time, there are other jobs that have been offshored completely, which also drives down pay at home (more workers for less jobs).

                      That is why I say that more wealth goes to owners and less to workers. But it’s not a net zero anything because overall the economy expanded. In theory, both owners AND workers should have been able to benefit. To be sure, some workers have done better, but not enough.

                      Personally, I’ve been hoping for tax reform for a long time, although realistically it ain’t happening. I understand where you’re coming from with free market ideas, but I’m not tethered to that anymore. So if you think I’ve got something wrong, maybe I do, or maybe I’m just operating under different rules.

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                    • South FL Dawg

                      When you say this:
                      “Take home pay is certainly important. But it’s a combination of two unrelated things from two independent parties.”
                      I get the feeling you just want to prove your point even if it means staying in the dark.

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        • Gregg

          As usual these stats are half the story what are the stats on employment and taxes paid?

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        • CB

          There’s the crux of everything. The idea that whites are just more upstanding than blacks. It’s the same pervasive ideology that many republicans believe but aren’t man enough to just say it. If you’re a racist you might as well own it right?

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      • Gregg

        What are the stats on joblessness and taxes paid, also always consider the source?

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      • Anonymous

        Here are the racial demographics for crimes committed in NYC. The data will probably surprise you. For basically every form of violent crime, Black and Hispanics constitute at least 85% and in many instances, such as shootings, are responsible for up to 96%. What you are proposing is that people don’t report crimes committed by Whites, Asians, Pacific Islanders, or Native Americans because their racism only makes them care about crimes committed by Blacks and Hispanics.

        https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2018-enforcement-report.pdf

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        • CB

          White people in authority have spent 400 years legislating minorities into poverty. And when people find themselves in desperate situations where the reward far outweighs risk of committing a crime it allows the whites in power to nudge the white population and say “see, we told you blacks were no good.” This goeth the vicious cycle. Put as many black people as possible in a position where their best means for survival are either relying on the government or risking jail time, and that’s one less competitor you have to worry about.

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          • Anonymous

            Crime demographics show that the wealthiest quintile of Blacks commit violent crimes at rates much higher than the poorest quintile of Whites, Asians, or Pacific Islanders. We have known for a long time that poverty does not cause crime despite how comfortable it make people feel. Areas with high crime rates have high levels of poverty because people that can afford to move away do so. The poor are in crime ridden areas because that is the only place they can afford to live.

            Granted, being Black or Hispanic has nothing to do with committing crime either. The data show that there are two main non-environmental factors related to committing violent crime are MAO-A deficiency (what they are calling “the Warrior Gene”) and an IQ between 80 and 90 (which applies to all countries and all cultures, not just our own). Crime rates roughly match the difference in occurrence rates of these factors between racial groups. That is to say that race is a correlation with NOT a causation of crime.

            Blaming white people or racism may make people feel good about themselves, but it does society a disservice. There is a very strong genetic component. Reducing violent crime is going to take getting women of all stripes to stop breeding with men that exhibit those tendencies.

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            • CB

              Sounds like cherry picked statistics reenforcing a false racist narrative with no sources from an anonymous poster who is scared to put a screen name with it.

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              • Derek

                You have to give him points for being hitlerian. Btw: what gene makes white people exterminate millions of people? Is there a genocide gene? And who is breeding with these white moral defectives?

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                • CB

                  Wasn’t there a non prosecution of whites gene that allowed white violence against blacks to go unpunished for a few hundred years? In Tulsa Oklahoma there was a firebombing gene in the 1920’s that caused white people to torch an entire black community. And let’s not get started on the lynching gene.

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                  • Derek

                    The “raping your property gene” seems to have been a big issue for those “mother fuckers” too.

                    Hell, it was so pervasive the word and the genetics remain with us today.

                    Maybe the problem in the African-American community is too many rape-related white genetic traits?

                    It’s the Manson-Bundy-Hitler-BTK-Dahmer gene! And those animals just keep breeding and spreading it everywhere!

                    People like anonymous are why we can’t have nice things.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Right. He thinks there’s a violence gene irrespective of race. Obviously there’s simply a victim gene tied directly with race. Damn racists. Stupids.

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              • Anonymous

                Wow, I am totally surprised that someone didn’t actually understand what was written and then decided to call someone racist for writing something that made the feel uncomfortable. Did you miss the part where I mentioned it has NOTHING to do with race (which is nothing except an approximation of ethnicity)? This is about the distribution of individuals with certain characteristics. You line of thinking is that being Swedish causes blue eyes. That is very different from the idea that the frequency of blue eyes is higher among people of Swedish descent than Italian descent.

                People like you and Derek love to engage in mind-reading where you just ascribe bad intention to people so that you can ignore data. Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn’t mean it is racist or untrue. This is data we have known for around 20 years. Issues like “the wealth gap” and incarceration rate differences will continue to get worse so long as you idiot lefties would rather blame everything on racism.

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                • Derek

                  Bring back eugenics!!

                  If genetics is the key, identify the “best” genes, determine that don’t you have them and then kill yourself.

                  Problem solved for everyone and you’re setting an example of intellectual consistency and commitment.

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                  • Napoleon BonerFart

                    It’s so simple. Just implement quota systems for prisons (like everywhere else). If a black guy commits murder, but there aren’t enough white people in prison yet, he gets the OJ treatment! Because oppression! Or something.

                    Idiots.

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                • CB

                  Having black skin in this country has directly correlated with discrimination from white authority figures for centuries. Ignore these facts at the risk of your own ignorance.

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                  • Anonymous

                    I am not denying that in any way. The most obvious example is in sentencing. Given the exact same crime with the exact same circumstances, juries give harsher punishments to Blacks and Hispanics. Systemic discrimination is incontrovertible. What I am talking about is the trend among lefties to attribute every deviation in statistics to discrimination. Reduction analysis of the data show that is absolutely not the case. The data show that most violent shitheads are actually genetically predisposed to being violent shitheads and the distribution of those genetics is not uniform.

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                    • CB

                      So taking genetics into account doesn’t every person have a breaking point? I would assume they do. That being the case then it seems logical that being discriminated into more difficult living environments increases the likelihood that certain people do break and or snap right? I’m not an authority on the subject. Just trying to use a bit of common sense.

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                    • Anonymous

                      Yes, but the vast majority of people do not resort to violence when put in those situations. The genetic component actually affects the development / operation of the prefrontal cortex. It literally impedes the part of the brain that handles impulse control. The problem manifests everywhere where impulse control is needed, not just in violence. Almost everyone, regardless of background, gets those impulses when put in those bad situations; they can just control those urges.

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                    • Derek

                      So when white people commit atrocities, serial murders, terrorist acts, participate in gang land murder they do it in a cold-blooded way and that’s you know, better?

                      I wouldn’t take this “science” at face value and I would pause and think about what you are really saying.

                      Moreover, if there was a “violence” gene, what would you propose to do about it? Eliminate the first sentence from the Declaration of Independence and substitute it with a system that values people on genetic make up? If not, why the fuck even discuss it?

                      Asians are better at math than I. So the fuck what? We’re still equal under the law right? That is the beginning and the end of our place in society. This bullshit just perpetuates racial bigotry and prejudice without any foundation or remedy.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      As stunning and brave as usual.
                      #ScienceMustFall

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                  • Anonymous

                    Derek, you are incapable of actually understanding someones argument. All you ever do is engage in mind-reading so that you can accuse them of having bad intentions. I pointed out two facts. 1. We know that most violent crime is committed by people that have a genetic variation that predisposes them to reduced impulse control and 2. That genetic variation is not equally distributed among different population groups. Every bit of bullshit you keep rambling upon is a figment of your imagination. No one proposed eugenics policies or genocide. No one excused violent behavior by anyone for any reason. There is a reason why people constantly make fun of you on here for being a delusional idiot.

                    The first sentence of the Declaration of Independence is “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” You statement makes zero sense.

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                    • A

                      This was supposed to be a reply to the nonsense Derek wrong at 1:17PM

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      We hate the first sentence of the Declaration of Independence. Separating from one’s government is racist.

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                    • Derek

                      Sorry, second sentence:

                      “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.”

                      (I need to get the government to change them around to prove I was right all along. The narcissism is malign.)

                      You still haven’t addressed my point: even if you are correct so the fuck what? What does it advance?

                      My point is that before anyone knew a gene existed it has been the truth that poor people who live adjacent to rich people are more prone to crime of all types. It has also always been the case that people of all types have engaged in horrible and unspeakable violence. Italian, Jewish and Irish crime was rampart a century ago. Now its far less so. Has it been bred out of them?

                      There are far more known correlations and lack of correlation than some bs, suspect study you found up your ass. Plus, you can’t demonstrate any purpose it might serve other than to promote bigotry and prejudice, even if accurate.

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                    • Anonymous

                      I’m not trying to make some larger statement other than that “muh racism” and “muh poverty” are not the causes of crime. I’m not trying to make any claim that is not backup up by solid social science where regression analysis has shown it to be correct You are the one that is obsessed with group identity and thinks that every statement must have some group based implication. My statement is only about those individuals that are prone to being violent shitheads as it is a stement about the genetics of the individual.

                      I am unaware of any data where they did genetic sequencing on previous populations of the Irish, Italians, or Jews. It would not surprise me if they had higher incidence rates of the MOA-A deficiency gene back then though. I think that would be something that should be investigated, but jackasses like yourself generally keep society from gaining that knowledge by bitching that doing the study is racist.

                      Your comparison to the concept that all men are created equal is a non-sequitur. I made no claim that persons with different genetics should be treated differently. That was completely an issue of mind-reading on your end. Again, this is why we make fun of you so much.

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                    • Derek

                      Damn you’re dumb. But you know why you’re called dumb by literally everyone right? Because it’s true. You’re dumb.

                      You haven’t said yet, upon repeated questioning, what is gained if it were true?

                      You seem to be suggesting that you can discount or eliminate every other known and observable socio-economic factor and say: “well fuck it, genes, nothing can be done.”

                      If that’s you’re point. It’s a dumb one. Like you. We all know it and we all say it. About you…ya dummy.

                      Why is it dumb dummy? Because there are actual factors that would have hit a sentient being right between the eyes when confronted with the changes in the crime rates among the American Irish, Italian and Jews. As they became more economically successful, crime rates plunged for their groups.

                      You, being dumb suggest their genes just got better.

                      You know why? You’re dumb. Very dumb.

                      Everyone knows it too.

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                    • Anonymous

                      Again, you make no attempt at refuting the argument. You resort to contradiction and name calling. The Federal Reserve says you are wrong.

                      https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/epr/99v05n3/9909levi.pdf

                      The murder rate for the wealthiest blacks is substantially higher than that for Whites, Asians, or Pacific Islanders in the lowest income quintile. That isn’t cause by poverty. Also, we aren’t talking about BS crimes like driving on a suspended license. We are talking about intentional murder and other violent crimes.

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                    • Anonymous

                      I should also add that you have your cause and effect backwards with regard to crime and poverty. For some reason, Lefties do this all of th time. People that lack impulse control are more likely to engage in behavior that leads to poverty such as gambling, impulsive purchases, punching people leading to jail time which makes it hard to get job, etc.

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                    • Derek

                      Reading is hard. From the article you linked:

                      “The poorest white neighborhoods experienced murder rates ten times greater than the richest white neighborhoods; for blacks, the corresponding ratio was almost twenty to one.”

                      Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

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                    • Anonymous

                      No, dipshit. You are the one that can’t read. You are looking at intra-race ratios. Poor whites committed murder at a rate 10 times wealthy whites. Poor Blacks committed murder at a rate 20 times wealthy Blacks. That was for the earliest sample. The next two sentences after the one you quote are ” It is strik-ing, however, that the link between income and homicideweakened substantially over time. For whites, homicide rates were unrelated to income in the 1986-95 period. Infact, the very lowest homicide rates were reported in the poorest white neighborhoods. ” If you would have noticed, the entire point to the study was about how poverty is increasingly losing its association with violent crime, but you have long expressed your lack of intellectual honesty.

                      You will also not that in the study, the murder rate among the wealthiest blacks was in general 50% higher than for the poorest of whites and close to 10 times that of the wealthiest whites

                      Also, if poverty and racism are the cause of crime, how come Native Americans, the poorest group in the US, commit crimes at rates basically the same as whites? They were also the victims of slavery and a genocide campaign. Somehow, they don’t go shooting up liquor stores at higher rates…. maybe race and poverty have little to do with it, and individuals who are born genetically predisposed to violence become violent.

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                    • Derek

                      It tells you the strongest correlation is poverty and where it “weakens” you conclude it disappears completely.

                      You’re fucking stupid.

                      Native Americans by and large live considerable distances from wealthy urban centers. Take them from bumfuck Dakota and stick them in a housing project blocks from massive wealth and the only people that live in squalor along side them look like themselves and their family and I’ll bet they catch up.

                      It’s about hopelessness and lack of opportunity and the violence associated with the drug market, not genetics, ya idiot.

                      Sorry, ya racist idiot.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Derek’s intellectual hero.

                      But I must admit he has stunning and brave points. The point of science isn’t knowledge, dumbass. It’s government policy. So the only possible reason one could be interested in genetics is for eugenics.

                      Dummy.

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      • Why would you go and muddy the water with facts….?

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    • Athenshomerdawg

      This.
      Shaker Heights, a book written/research by Dr Ogbu in an attempt to understand why young blacks from upper middle class are performing at a much lower rate in high school than their white contemporaries.
      Stay in school get you a high school degree don’t get pregnant out of wedlock., Find a job. Stay away from that bad boy culture and certainly do not try to emulate it. This will take you a long way regardless of your skin color.

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    • Derek

      Have you read anything about COINTELPRO?

      You should.

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      • AthensHomerDawg

        I have and the FBI is still at work doing these nefarious deeds.
        Hopefully we’re turning that around.

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      • UnderDog68

        Well, I’ll chime in with my 2 cents and say this….Joe Biden’s crime bill in the 1990s did more to increase the incarceration of minorities and facilitate the ‘prison industrial complex’ than any Democrat before or after. The population in the federal prison system doubled during the 1990s and more new federal prisons were built during the years from 1992 to 2002 than ever before since the agency was created in 1930.

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    • Gregg

      Entitlements dont help anything or anyone.

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      • Napoleon BonerFart

        Are you suggesting that poor blacks respond rationally to incentives the government imposes paying black mothers to remain single? Inconceivable!

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  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    Meh. A bubble-headed-bleach-blond gets surprised. Happens all the time on every news show. Now let’s hear how MSNBC and CNN good, Fox bad.

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  4. Heyberto

    Ben Watson has become a darling of conservatives because of his stance on abortion and other key issues. He’s respectful of the flag, despite supporting the choices of those that choose to kneel. He’s a free thinker and doesn’t tow the line in a partisan direction, and criticizes any side he feels is deserving. I didn’t read the article, so I wasn’t aware of this. Perhaps I will.. but in a general sense, we need more people like Ben Watson in the world, challenging our partisan ways, and doing so in a way that doesn’t alienate. I appreciate that.

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      • RandallPinkFloyd

        I appreciate that Ben isn’t afraid to state his views. I don’t always agree with him(mainly abortion, religion in general), but I respect his views because he’s respectful of people with other views. Most of us could stand to do the same, especially those in DC.

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  5. KornDawg

    Ben Watson is a credit to UGA. I don’t always agree with him, but he always presents himself and his position with dignity, and seems respectful to anyone that might disagree with him.

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    • Jim

      “Seems respectful to anyone that might disagree with him.” Novel idea for most liberals

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      • Ruteger

        Sees guy decrying liberals’ lack of respectful disagreement.
        Scrolls up and sees same guy posting a single sentence response calling something “liberal b-s”
        Pick myself up off the floor.

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        • Jim

          Yeah but it was only after being called a racist among plenty of other things. I have a lot of liberal friends and family members. We may not agree but we respect each other. Now if they started throwing tantrums and calling me a racist just because i don’t agree with their point of view I might not be so civil toward them.

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          • Derek

            Twitter tantrums are presidential tho, right?

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            • Jim

              No they are an embarrassment. There you go ASS-uming again…I did not vote for trump nor do I support him. I will not vote for him in 2020 either

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            • Napoleon BonerFart

              Mean words are always much worse than secret kill lists of Americans or waging treasonous war on behalf of America’s enemies. Oh, to have a presidential president again.

              You idiots.

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          • Joe Schmoe

            Have you read / watched / attended a Trump rally? There is a side of the political discourse that is villainizing the other side and even going so far as to say that “they are trying to destroy your way of life” and “there will be violence if they win” but it is not the liberals. For anyone on the right particularly Trump supporters (which is 90% of Republicans based on recent polling) to talk about the incivility of the left is the definition of hypocrisy.

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          • Ruteger

            OK, got it. You read a post that was not directly replying to you and inferred that that person was directly calling you personally a racist. So now, you have license to call stuff B-S and “tantrums” all-the-while still decrying liberals lack of respectful disagreement.

            If I ask nicely, will you reach a hand down and help he up to that moral high ground?

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      • CB

        votes for Trump because of his respectfulness to people he disagrees with.

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      • RandallPinkFloyd

        “Seems respectful to anyone that might disagree with him.” Novel idea for most liberals

        Oh the irony here, Jim. It’s a novel idea for all of us, liberal, conservative, whatever you are – everyone could stand to be respectful. All parties show their ass way too often and all parties have their lunatic fringe. Quit thinking it’s one more than the other.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      Agree 100%. And I love people who refuse to be boxed in to a certain political party, label or group. After all, anyone who merely tows the line of their chosen political party, IMO, is a sheep with no independent thought of their own.

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  6. Bulldog1

    Ben Watson is a DGD. Do I agree with him on all things? Of course not. I dont agree with my wife on all things either but I still love and respect her. Anyone who can back up their opinion with articulate and coherent reasoning deserves our respect, regardless of whether we agree or not.

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  7. JD

    Love Ben Watson. DGD. Love his take on things outside of football as well. If you think Laura didn’t know his take on this BEFORE he was brought on, you’re fooling yourself.
    They always know. That’s the format of all these shows on all the networks.

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  8. RangerRuss

    The Playpen been a bit too tame lately, eh Bluto? This has the elements to get right sporty before the day is out.

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  9. Gurkha Dawg

    Ben Watson is a good dude. I don’t watch Ingraham, but from what I understand Watson is on her show often and they are good friends. They don’t have the exact same opinions on everything. What’s the big deal?

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  10. Classic City Canine

    Boy, Watson disarmed her handily. It’s the rare guest that can defuse a host on these types of shows.

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  11. Greg

    Nothing “awkward” there imo. Pretty sure she knew what kind of answer she was going to get when she asked.

    Ben gave a well thought out answer, a good one.

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  12. RangerRuss

    It’s unfortunate that reasonable voices such as those of Watson will always be drowned out by the screeching from extremists of all sides.

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    • Derek

      And we know how you hate “screeching extremism”:

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      • RangerRuss

        BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Speak of the devil. Every board has its self-appointed fool. This one has Derek with his Trump Derangement Syndrome.
        Buh bye now. Got to work.

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        • Jim

          No kidding. These people with TDS really show their true colors and project that hatred to everyone and everything around them. Must be a miserable way to live…and the irony of it all is that their actions and hatred of trump are precisely what will get him elected to a 2nd term! It will be glorious watching the meltdown on election night (again!!)

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          • Derek

            So glorious! Not for the country of course but for the pwning! It’s all about the pwning!!!

            Moron.

            If you weren’t a moron you’d be worried about the fact the GOP candidate last night got 10 percent less of the vote than Trump did in 2016. But you are a moron and you think the guy can lose 10% of his support and win.

            Glorious idiocy!!

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            • Sides

              or you could be a moron and think a mediocre candidate in a special election would pull the same numbers as Trump in a presidential election.

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              • Derek

                “Same?” No. “Similar?” Yes.

                If you don’t think election results are instructive, suit yourself.

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                • Sides

                  “If you don’t think election results are instructive, suit yourself.”

                  Says the guy who blames Russia for the Trump election……

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                  • Derek

                    All US intel and law enforcement agencies say the Russians interfered.

                    That you don’t care about a foreign cyber war fought on America soil means that you are a traitor.

                    That you support politicians who give aid and comfort to those who wage that war against us, means that you are a traitor.

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                    • Sides

                      If you don’t think election results are instructive, suit yourself.

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                    • Napoleon BonerFart

                      Exactly! The Russians are everywhere. They even hacked the team of Hillary donors that wrote the Mueller report that concluded … something.

                      Us woke people understand that The Manchurian Candidate wasn’t fiction. It was a predictive documentary. Anybody that disputes this is a traitor.

                      And Derek, you need to qualify your last statement. Giving aid and comfort to Al Qaeda isn’t treason. That’s just smart Obama/Clinton foreign policy to create ISIS. It’s tweeting something disputing the truth of The Manchurian Candidate that qualifies as treason.

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                    • Pirate

                      And exactly who was the president at the time big D. Oh yeah I remember: I told Vladimir to knock it off. I know ur smart D. Cmon man

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        • Derek

          You had a choice:

          Formulate an argument that a Muslim ban isn’t extreme hence denying you’re a hypocrite.
          An ad hominem attack.
          Both.

          I generally try to do both, but I’m not an idiot.

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  13. larry

    I hate that fucking bitch

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  14. PansyTheDawg

    She’s incredibly rude and argues like a highschooler. And she has her own show?

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  15. 3rdandGrantham

    Not a Laura Ingram fan, and most of you probably know they I abhor both parties while generally taking a Libertarian stance. With that said, I’ll simply say that it’s quite ironic that Jamelle Hill is advocating for or espousing the same message that bigoted whites were saying back in the 50’s in the south. And that is that blacks should attend black schools and not integrate with whites on majority white campuses. Amazing how we’ve come full circle in many ways on so many issues.

    I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: when it comes to race, if we all would stop identifying someone by their race, religion, sexual preferences, etc. and instead identify them by their individual makeup only, it would solve pretty much all race related issues. My personal circle of friends is about as diverse as you can get and would be an advertisers dream, and there has never been any friction whatsoever among us.

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    • truck

      Agreed on pretty much all points.

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    • spottieottie

      That really isn’t her argument, though.

      Places like the University of Alabama have seen increases in applications, enrollment, and donations due – in no small part – to the success of their football program. Hill’s argument is that college sports is bringing in millions upon millions of dollars to predominately white institutions on the backs of a free labor force that is predominately black. Her contention is that these athletes could instead divert those revenues to HBCUs by taking their talents to Florida A&M, Grambling, Alabama State, etc.

      Now I’ve got qualms with her argument. (Chief among them, her idea is premised on the continued exploitation of college athletes… pay these kids, y’all) But she’s not advocating segregation – something Watson correctly noted – she’s merely advocating that black folks use the economic power and freedom they do have to try and benefit other black folks.

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      • FlyingPeakDawg

        The argument/suggestion has no basis in economic reality. If all the top black athletes went to HBUs, the TV money, bowl money, donations, etc. would not follow in the proportions she imagines. The big college brands are not going to stop marketing just because those players go elsewhere. And when the money doesn’t follow, those players won’t have the benefits of the resources the large public and private universities enjoy. That could result in fewer opportunities for fewer of these players, the net result being things are a bit worse than better for top black athletes.

        I think there is a very strong argument to be made for the black community to invest more within itself to help rise above the litany of economic and social ills and injustices, but this idea is extremely weak and a drop in the bucket at best if not supported in more meaningful ways.

        And now that I’ve chose to respectfully disagree with a liberal idea, I must be banished to the misfit island of older racist Trump supporting white men because there is no other ability for rational discussion.

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        • spottieottie

          Gonna engage in some rational discussion before I set your iceberg afloat….

          You’re right: Georgia, Ohio State, USC, etc. are established brands that benefit from established and lucrative TV deals, licensing agreements, etc. That isn’t going to change overnight and Hill’s piece is a little too optimistic in that regard.

          Over the long run, however, sustained success by HBCUs could start diverting those dollars. For example… Gonzaga made the Elite Eight in 1999 and in the 20 years since, they’ve experienced sustained success in basketball. Over that same period, the school’s enrollment has doubled and the endowment has grown to over $212 million. A fundraising campaign launched in 2015 raised $240 million from 34,000 donors. On top of that, the team is playing prime time games on ESPN and has experienced an increase in the value of its licensing rights and the TV rights to WCC basketball games.

          Let’s say Alabama A&M starts consistently making deep tournament runs over a period of years. Enrollment increases. Endowment increases. Value of TV and licensing rights increases. If the best HS basketball players in the country are going to MEAC and SWAC schools, ESPN is going to want to broadcast those games and people are going to want to watch them. Murray State got plenty of TV time this year thanks to Ja Morant. Elite talent is far more compelling than a roster full of Grayson Allens.

          Shorter version… it wouldn’t result in an overnight windfall, but over a sustained period, it would benefit HBCUs significantly.

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          • FlyingPeakDawg

            As I wave goodbye while floating away from the shore…

            I still think economic theory trumps (oops!) this notion. Your Gonzaga example is OK in the current environment, but if, say, 20 HBCU’s starting having success while the “brand name” colleges started taking an economic hit, they’d respond with more aggressive recruiting, marketing,etc. to those same black athletes. The notion is good as I noted about more black community investment within the black community…I don’t think this issue is big enough to make a dent the way banking, real estate, job training and creation, community based policing, etc. would. Top black athletes choosing to only attend HBCU’s feels more like a boycott which rarely work in the end.

            But I’m an old white racist set out to sea, so what do I know?

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      • It also ignores the fact that fans of the “predominately white” institutions are not going to start suddenly pouring in thousands of dollars of support for a HBCU simply because George Pickens and Andrew Thomas chose Grambling over UGA. While there are exceptions to the rule, donations mostly come from alumni, and most alumni don’t know or care about the kids until they wear that G. I see JH’s argument, but end result likely wouldn’t be that HBCU’s will gain all that much more wealth… its just that the UGA and Bama’s of the world will have less talent, and the kids will get less exposure.

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        • CB

          But then Pickens and Thomas go pro and suddenly that HBCU has two millionaire alumni. Do the math on that snowball if D’Andre Swift and Justin Fields follow suit.

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    • CB

      It’s only segregation if whites weren’t allowed at HBCUs which they absolutely are.

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  16. Athenshomerdawg

    Interesting.

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  17. Argondawg

    I love the Play pen as a place for these type of “discussions” but I also wonder who wants to engage in this type of ridiculous ugliness for sport. I don’t ever see anyone winning anything or changing anyone’s mind. Just seems like a ton of wasted energy. The people that look forward to this post every week are the people that worry me the most in this country. I have no desire to change the world or the country until I have actually accomplished the things I should accomplish in my home, my business and community. I think those on here who are the most aggressive and prolific in this post probably have the most fucked up personal lives. Eh, maybe I am wrong.

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    • Derek

      Don’t worry. You are wrong.

      Nothing wrong with free speech. It’s about having a market of ideas. It isn’t about changing minds. It’s about a process by which, hopefully, the best ideas flourish and the worst perish.

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      • Chris

        Couldn’t agree more.

        Which is why you’re a valuable asset in Trump’s 2020 reelection bid. Carry on with your TDS, you’re doing the Lord’s work for us.

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      • Napoleon BonerFart

        Exactly. The marketplace of ideas and the first amendment were created so some of us can curse at others and hurl insults. Eventually, the crudest and most insulting ideas will flourish.

        Or something.

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      • Argondawg

        or the worst of people comes out and the worst flourishes which appears to be the process I am witnsessing. I am fine with it as long as it makes the rest of the blog post comment sections reasonable. It is a small price to pay.

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    • AthensHomerDawg

      It certainly has lead to more respectful conversation in the Senators daily posts. It limits our exposure to Duh’Wrek’s TDS.

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  18. Hobnail_Boot

    Turned off the clip once I heard “Jamele Hill”. I’ve heard enough of her ignorant BS.

    With regards to HBCUs, I’m in favor of any young person following the path that beat suits them in their pursuits. Realistically, Jimmy Linebacker isn’t going to an HBCU (or a small historically white school, for that matter) until and unless it makes financial sense.

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  19. Yurdle

    Off topic, I know, but get the word out to wear pink on Saturday in honor of Wendy Anderson, the late wife of Blake Anderson, Ark. St.’s coach. She died of breast cancer last month. Class move by UGA to call for it.

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  20. Gurkha Dawg

    I’d like to throw something out for discussion. What do y’all think about these “red flag” laws? I understand the reason people want them, but they seem to turn due process on it’s head. Guilty until proven innocent.

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    • Napoleon BonerFart

      Minority Report was an entertaining movie. It’s not entertaining as government policy.

      The same folks that “literally can’t even” and spend their time reporting posts on Facebook for racism and fascism and whatever else disturbs them are the same ones who will be calling tip lines suggesting guns be confiscated.

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    • It’s a federal version of “Stop-and-Frisk” if you ask me.

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  21. Derek

    Four more years!!

    Of this!! https://apple.news/AirEuhIwrQq6N7CyQb153PQ

    “Mr. Ross called Neil Jacobs, the acting administrator of NOAA, from Greece where the secretary was traveling for meetings, and instructed Dr. Jacobs to fix the agency’s perceived contradiction of the president, according to three people informed about the discussions.
    Dr. Jacobs objected to the demand and was told that the political appointees at NOAA would be fired if the situation was not fixed, according to the three individuals, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the episode.”

    Dear Leader will not be contradicted!!!

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    • Napoleon BonerFart

      Bring back some dignity to the White House!!!

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      • Deflect, deny. Deflect, deny. Deflect, deny. It must get exhausting being this cynical.

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        • Napoleon BonerFart

          It’s actually liberating. I’m not the guy bemoaning how all the evils in the world are the cause of one political party and believing that, if I just vote hard enough, our savior will ride in on his white horse and distribute all the free shit I could ever want.

          I think it’s more exhausting to believe that the proper role of private citizens is as cannon fodder in whatever ill-conceived government program our dear leaders dream up. Sure, none of them have worked out so far, but it’s only been a few centuries. It’s too early to give up now. If we just spend another $100 trillion, things are bound to turn around!

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  22. Cojones

    If anyone would like to, the tragedy in the nearby Bahamas is slowly unfolding and people are needed to help people fast. I’m especially sensitive to their plight because I lived part of that during Michael. The Bahamian’s sighting of numerous tornadoes in the inner wall area jibes with reasoning why a 125′ pine over my house was twisted off about 20′ up and dumped 8′ in the direction away from my house. The pines and oaks in my yard were decimated and stacked so high that you couldn’t see the lake. My wife and I hiked in the next morning over downed trees across the road for over 200 yds. It took us over 30 mins to crawl over trees and go around uprooted ends to wind back and forth to our house. Purchasing a generator and other emergency supplies not already configured at my house is one thing, but hauling it to my house for unloading was another. It took 3 days for my car to be brought to my house. Ice and drinking water were a high priority to continue to function upwardly and we didn’t have the energy of youth since we both are 70+.

    The reason I’ve gone into detail is to draw attention to the Bahamians who are living this in an even more drawn-out fashion. You have to experience that emptiness of seeing your home and your neighbor’s homes wrecked and contemplating your next step, especially after multiple tornadoes and straight-line winds rake your home and community for well over 24 hrs without letup. My disaster experience pales when you consider that our closest neighboring country has had two of their larger islands razed to the ground. If you ever wanted to give humanitarian help, now’s your opportunity due to their closeness to the SE. Please inquire and try to help the Bahamians as much as you can. They don’t have a FEMA – hell, they didn’t have a cow on the island of Grand Bahama when I lived there – all milk was imported from the mainland. Please help and get other Dawgs involved.

    Currently I’m pushing the idea of cruise ships rented from nearby Miami by the Bahamian govt, anchored in island harbors and used to house people, return them daily to their nearby homes to help themselves recover their homes and community infrastructure. Now is the time to do this because each passing day worsens the situation until progress uphill begins. Start by thinking of your home and community being razed by multiple tornadoes and high winds and looking from your front door while trying to think where you will begin. Now imagine that amid this destruction you have no infrastructure (like electricity and running fresh water) to survive while digging out. After Michael hit in Oct, our communications (land line, internet, etc) weren’t restored until Jan, whereas, the Bahamians won’t have their full communications restored for much longer; during that time they have to further endure the daily ravages of the weather.

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    • ugafidelis

      I’m just SW of you and thank goodness that sonuvadog didn’t turn like it was supposed to or both of us would have been fooked!

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  23. Jared S.

    I’m a principled conservative. These are my rules for consuming news:

    1) Never, EVER, watch 24-hour news channels
    2) Never, EVER, listen to political radio shows or podcasts
    3) Check Drudge Report headlines multiple times daily to see what the general public/media considers the day’s most important headlines
    4) Watch (listen to) press conferences, speeches, interviews, campaign events and other noteworthy events IN FULL on C-Span.org while working/driving
    5) Subscribe to The Economist and read it cover-to-cover each week
    6) Watch Shields and Brooks Friday appearance on YouTube each week

    In the end I find I’m well-educated, culturally aware, fully informed of facts of the day, and able to express myself on almost any topic with grace and charm. Remarkably I avoid “conservative” news but remain a principled, vocal conservative. And no one hates me.

    Some of you should try it.

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  24. Derek

    On this date 18 years ago where was Trump?:

    “I used to have the second tallest building and now I have the tallest building in Manhattan”

    -DJT
    September 11, 2001

    Lying.

    The only thing true in that statement is that he thinks everything is about him. No exceptions.

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    • Napoleon BonerFart

      Exactly. He wasn’t answering questions about how his very tall building may be vulnerable to attack on skyscrapers. He was just bragging like a Russian spy would.

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  25. Napoleon BonerFart

    I can’t wait for the next debate!

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  26. Napoleon BonerFart

    The white supremacy is everywhere.
    #LiterallyShaking

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  27. Napoleon BonerFart

    RIP to the father of his country.

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  28. CB

    Democrats:
    “Republicans are racist look at Trump quotes”

    Republicans:
    “Liberals are racist too, look at LBJ quotes”

    Anyone with half a brain;
    “They’re all old racist white men making laws to exploit minorities for political gain.”

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  29. Derek

    Read this while listening to Lee Greenwood:

    https://apple.news/AnVbrklmST0WpjgeGvd1Zjg

    Remember when we weren’t complete bastards? I do.

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    • Napoleon BonerFart

      I can stomach the kill lists. I can stomach spying on and imprisoning journalists. I can even stomach the endless wars on behalf of our enemies. But limiting someone’s visit to 2 weeks is just beyond the pale. That’s where we must draw the line.

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