Another player compensation round up

It seems like the only thing this week that’s been more fast and furious than reactions to the new California law is the impeachment inquiry.  (NOTE:  that’s a colorful analogy, not an invitation to a special Playpen edition, so don’t even think about going there in the comments.)

Anyway, some bullet points for you today:

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22 responses to “Another player compensation round up

  1. Every time Mark Emmert opens his mouth on this subject he makes more of a fool of himself.

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  2. sniffer

    Did it surprise you that David French or anyone at NR would support a free market?

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  3. Salty Dawg

    LOL! The Onion gets it!

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  4. Dawgxian

    The funny thing is Chilli and Derek probably believe your comment about David French and start him by accident

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  5. Mayor

    I don’t get the opposition. Regular students can have a job. Regular students can have their images in ads. Sometimes regular students are famous. Lots of actors and actresses went to college after they were famous—Jodie Foster and Natalie Portman come to mind. Why shouldn’t an athlete be able to do a commercial or endorse a product too?

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    • I think the NCAA and the schools are worried about two things:

      1. They see endorsement money as a zero-sum game, so whatever flows to the players ultimately comes out of their pockets.
      2. They worry about the consequences to endorsement money not having a negative impact on the sport, because that will normalize player compensation in the eyes of the public and that in turn will make it harder down the road for schools to refuse paying college athletes directly.

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    • AthenHomerDawg

      1st Football players aren’t regular students. The Way football players time/work obligations are in today collge football, school and football just doesn’t go together. It’s like working to full-time jobs. If Jodie Foster and Natalie Portman were paid actresses on some kind of acting scholarship while they were students at college and happened to do commercials I could see your point. However paying those two established actresses/students and paying college athletes/students are apples and oranges.
      On another note was in California recently visiting relatives. California legislators have enough sh*t on their hands (no pun intended) without adding this to their workload. Among many of my observations and surprises one was when my nephew and I drove through a town where all the signs were in Spanish and we were the only gringos around. Lol! I have a working knowledge of Spanish my nephew speaks it fluently so It was not disconcerting .

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  6. Former Fan

    From the article “This is just a new form of professionalism and a different way of converting students into employees,” Emmert said. “(They may be) paid in a fashion different than a paycheck, but that doesn’t make them not paid.”

    Does that mean that the student athletes on scholarship are employees? I mean, they are being paid in a fashion different than a paycheck.

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    • chopdawg

      Also, the LA Times article quotes Jim Delaney as saying the Big 10 would drop to Division Iii if athletes were allowed to share in TV revenue.

      Are çollege athletes currently sharing TV revenue?

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  7. chopdawg

    “”If you don’t think cheating happens in college football, wake up, it happens,” said Pollack, who played for Georgia from 2002-04, Tuesday on College Football Live. “So if you don’t think it happens, it’s happening — for sure happening. So now, under this new rule, what happens is, ‘OK, highest bidder. What do you have for me? I’ll be the face of your car dealership. One hundred fifty (thousand dollars). I’ll be the face of it. You can use me, you can market and you can advertise.’

    “So that’s what it’s going to be? It’s going to be people basically bidding for your services and it’s going to be all-out warfare? And that’s the part that needs to be ironed.”

    David Pollock on 24/7 Sports.

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    • Got Cowdog

      “I’ll be the face of your car dealership. One hundred fifty (thousand dollars). I’ll be the face of it. You can use me, you can market and you can advertise.”
      Of the gross: The agent will get 15%. The University will get 25%. The IRS will get 25%. Throw in some incidentals (Travel, accounting, etc) and the player walks away with 50k or so?
      Obviously its still 50k more than they had. I’m leaving out the legal fees im assuming would be required to hash out the agents fees and University brand share. Maybe one of you Law Dawgs out there can give us an idea what a case like that would cost to negotiate the use of the University’s NLI?

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      • I’ve always loved the “but he’ll have to pay taxes on that!” canard.

        Makes you wonder why anyone wants to get paid. 😉

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        • Got Cowdog

          Unfortunately paying taxes is part of making money and most of us have to factor it into our P&L. I certainly did not intend it to be a canard.
          I’m absolutely in favor of players being able to capitalize their NLI’s, I hope you didn’t think otherwise. I was thinking out loud about what the real value of an endorsement like the one Pollack mentioned would be.

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          • Oh, I wasn’t pointing a finger at you in that regard. You just reminded me there are those out there who think that’s a convincing arugument.

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            • Got Cowdog

              Everybody pays taxes. Let the player get two of those sponsors and the IRS will show him or her what diminishing returns are all about. (Hi capital gains. What are you doing here?)
              This NLI thing is close to heart for me, not that mine has any value whatsoever. It’s about handing an 18-22 year old a large sum of money. I was lucky enough to make a couple of good licks on real estate deals in my early twenties. I had little to no experience with Tax or Real Estate law and listened to some people who I thought had my best interests at heart (and they probably did) but were a little too conservative. I ended up not keeping a substantial amount of money that I could have. Live and learn of course, but your comment yesterday about them needing representation was dead on. I sure could have used some at that age.

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  8. Normaltown Mike

    Do you mean Presidential candidate David French?

    He never ceases to clutch his pearls and seek a fainting couch regarding all issues. I find him mildly tolerable when he writes about the legal disputes surrounding RFRA, school choice, etc. but when he announced he was running for POTUS he should’ve been fired by every media publication that employs him.

    He is basically a pro-life E.J. Dionne. Plus he’s a UT fan.

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  9. DawgByte

    Regarding bullet point one. The vast majority of Americans and even sports enthusiasts are not fully educated on the details of scholarship athletes or all the ramifications of “Pay-for-Play”, so referring to a poll is pointless.

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