Four more years

It’s official.

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UPDATE:  You will be shocked, shocked to learn that more money is involved.

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68 responses to “Four more years

  1. No One Knows You're a Dawg

    Lenny looks like the pastor you can’t trust.

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  2. Go Dawgs!

    That’s the Georgia-Florida game, Mr. Mayor.

    And thanks for tagging every Florida account and not even getting the one Georgia account you tried to tag correct.I personally am happy that the game is staying put, but I definitely concede the point that Jacksonville ain’t neutral. Might as well just go ahead and tag Tebow in it, too, sir.

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    • greg63

      Tagged 4 uf accounts and one UGA account, and you’re right. Didn’t get that one correct. I wonder who’s he’s rooting for and where he went to school…..oh yeah

      “..transferred to the University of Florida and graduated summa cum laude with a degree in accounting”

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  3. Russ

    Awesome. Glad the tradition continues.

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  4. Derek

    No gators in Georgia!!

    Unless it’s the peach bowl.

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  5. Mark

    WLOCP lives!

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  6. Chi-town Dawg

    Surprised it’s only 2 years guaranteed with an option for a 2 year extension. Historically, these have been 4 year deals. The CBS contract expires in 2024, so maybe that’s why it’s shorter than usual.

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  7. ApalachDawg

    So once again, all the saber rattling and tough talk was just about negotiating tactics. hmmm.

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  8. FlyingPeakDawg

    I don’t want the WLOCP to go away, I want Jacksonville to go away.

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  9. Bright Idea

    The guys on the street in J’ville trying to make an easy buck always told me Georgia fans take care of them and Florida fans spit at them. Same guy who dumped 5 counterfeit 20s on me last year when I sold him somebody else’s tickets. I had fun splainin’ that! I’m glad the game is staying. Kirby gonna’ have to win the big one before he talks the blue bloods out of that trip.

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  10. Jeff Sanchez

    We’re so dumb.

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    • What’s so appealing about going to Hogtown every other year? Sorry, but with the ability to fly direct from Athens to Jacksonville, there is no advantage any longer.

      Don’t bring up Bama-Auburn because Bama played multiple home games per year at Legion Field.

      The better example is the Red River Shootout. OU doesn’t complain about playing the game in Texas. We shouldn’t complain about playing in Florida.

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      • ATL Dawg

        The only big home game in 2020 or 2021 that we can point to and say “that will be a great one for recruiting” is Auburn next year. That’s ONE DAMN GAME during a 2 year period.

        Jeff Sanchez is correct. We’re dumb.

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        • spottieottie

          1) The existing GA/FL contract ran through 2021, so this decision does absolutely nothing to change the status of the home schedule in either 2020 or 2021.

          2) I get the feeling your concern over recruiting atmosphere is just a cover for you being pissed at having to pay a bunch of money to watch Georgia-La. Monroe.

          3) The real culprit for the lack of a quality home schedule isn’t one-off games in Atlanta or the WLOCP, it’s the result of SEC expansion. Alabama now visits every 12 years instead of every 4. Move to a 9-game schedule or embrace the pod format and you’ll see quality SEC West opponents more often.

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          • ATL Dawg

            1) The point I made about 2020-21 was to show the problem with our schedule in near future terms that people can better understand. The same exact issue exists for 2022-24.

            2) I pointed out below where this impacts me personally (the schedules stink and yeah, I’m paying for it). I’m also pointing out here how it impacts the program overall (aside from impacting season ticket demand). But I can’t stop your feelings and assumptions, so…

            3) You’re playing the “don’t blame this, blame that” game that I mentioned to eethomas below. I’m not going down yet another “where to focus the blame” rabbit hole here but I will say that I have absolutely zero interest in giving the UGA administration a pass on THEIR handling of THEIR schedule.

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      • Jeff Sanchez

        Ask yourselves this:
        “What would the Florida Gators want us to do?”

        then we should do the opposite

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        • PTC DAWG

          I’m sure Florida has a percentage of fans that want the game home/home…probably about the same as UGA.

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        • Cojones

          If it was about money, someone can’t multiply. Seats alone are 12,741 diff from Sanford and at, let’s say, $200 average price (we know it will be a lot more) in our stadium, that gives us $2.5M more/game at home. So, instead of the current $1.5M douche we have been getting for several years, we can count on a $1,25M douche for the next two years that will be cut to a $1M douche before the possible extension for another two years.

          Yeah, that’s dumb.

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      • Ou doesn’t have Man Kirb on the sidelines either

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      • OU needs Dallas recruiting and most of their alums live there.

        Jacksonville is a shithole that gave the world Limp Bizkit.

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  11. ATL Dawg

    I know I’m a broken record on this but the home schedules for the next 5 years (2020-2024) are freaking awful. No good out-of-conference games and the only rotating west teams coming in are Arkansas (2021) and Ole Miss (2023).

    Unless something changes, get ready to hear some serious complaining about this from our fanbase over the next half decade.

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    • We’re playing 3 OOC games in Atlanta during that period. The Florida game isn’t to blame for our home schedule … the decision to play games in Atlanta is.

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      • ATL Dawg

        Ah yes, I’m very familiar with this time honored Georgia tradition….

        “This ridiculous nonsense here isn’t the problem! That ridiculous nonsense over there is!”

        I will concede this though – continuing to play our biggest game of the year out of state is no more stupid than playing in 3 of those Chick-fil-a games over a 5 year period.

        But regardless of where you want to shine the flashlight, the fact is that the home schedules are currently set up to be horrible for half a decade.

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        • Al

          As far out as those games have to be scheduled, I don’t think you can blame that on the current administration at B-M. At least Kirby and McGoofus are trying to improve things in the future.

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          • The games in Atlanta were scheduled by Kirby and the AD.

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            • PTC DAWG

              Kirby knows if UGA isn’t in these games in ATL, that Bama is. He is no dummy on that front.

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              • I understand that, but anyone who claims to complain about the home schedule over the next few years and refuses to consider the effect of playing in Atlanta has an axe to grind. Also, my comment was to respond to the premise that those games were scheduled before Kirby, which was a false premise.

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          • ATL Dawg

            Sorry Al but that’s wrong…

            First of all, McGarity has been the AD for over 9 years and Kirby’s been the head coach for almost 4. So we’re talking about a time period (2020-2024) that is 10-14 years after McGarity started and 5-9 years after Kirby started. That was/is WAY more than enough time to do something about this upcoming half decade of schedules. I somewhat appreciate what they’re doing for 2025 and beyond but that’s a LONG, LONG way away. This upcoming 5 year stretch is totally unacceptable.

            Second, about a month ago, Florida and Utah scheduled a home-and-home for 2022-2023. These types of games are out there if you want them and they don’t necessarily have to be lined up 10-15 years ahead of time, regardless of what Mealy-mouthed McGarity blabbers on about.

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        • I’m a tradition guy. I think there is inherent value in the Cocktail Party whether recruits are there or not. I accept if you don’t agree with that. All of the excuses about playing in Florida are exactly that … excuses.

          I’m a season ticket holder that doesn’t order tickets to Jacksonville. It would be in my best interest for the game to come to campus. I don’t think it’s in the program’s best interest to move the game. I also think the South Georgia fans/alumni appreciate the game in Jacksonville. Once again, I can respect those who have a different opinion.

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          • FlyingPeakDawg

            Big event, tradition, etc. I get as a valid and important consideration, but this “reward to south Georgia fans” idea I have to take issue with. Home and home would favor them visiting Hogtown. With fewer seats than Sanford in Jax, plus much higher contributions and seat prices, how does that “benefit” south Georgia fans? Other than for a shorter drive for the few elite ticket status ones, I’m just not seeing how its any real benefit to more of them. I’m sure many go just for the tailgate, so there’s that, but c’mon…

            Just my two cents worth. I’m neutral in that I would actually like to see some home & home (our revenge is overdue) but love the tradition of the WCLOP. IMHO there is not a perfect solution because Jax just isn’t that great of a place and I’ve never felt they’ve welcomed and treated UGA fans fairly. YMMV.

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            • It does benefit the South Georgia fan base. You don’t have to be in the “elite” to get Florida tickets especially for 2 in regular seating.

              All Hartman Fund donors with cumulative 10k points got them last year.

              https://georgiadogs.com/news/2019/6/28/2019-football-ticket-priority-requirements.aspx

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            • Gaskilldawg

              I respect your opinion that the game should be home and home and I have expressed that opinion in the past. You are mistaken that the South Georgia fans will have access to tickets close by in Hogtown. UGA will get 7,500 tickets. A few thousand Magill Society members will get them all.

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              • FlyingPeakDawg

                My point was I don’t see how South Georgia fans have any advantage to tickets in either Jax or Hogtown, so how does game proximity help them? It only helps the SGF’s who aleady have season tickets and qualify…how many are we talking about? It’s not like all 40,000 seats in JAX go to SGF’s.

                Support the WCLOP for what it is…I’m just not buying the “it rewards SGF’s” argument as if that is in anybody who is in power’s consideration.

                As for home and home…tough call. Don’t want to lose the WCLOP tradition, but want to beat the hell out of the gators at least once in Athens and the Swamp. Need to cleanse that from my Bulldog soul.

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        • Brandon M

          ATL, you ever been to the Cocktail Party? As vehemently opposed as you seem to be about the game staying in Jax, I’m going to assume the answer is no. It is one of the most unique atmospheres in college football and truly one of the weeks I look forward to most every year. At the rate the traditions that made us all fall in love with the sport in the first place are getting thrown to the wind in favor of a few more bucks these days, I strongly suggest you try to make it down there before the city refuses to pony up further and your wish is ultimately granted.

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          • ATL Dawg

            Are you kidding? I’ve been to the Cocktail Party 9-10 times in the last 23 years or so. It’s not a bad game atmosphere – I would say it’s pretty good. But it’s certainly not any better than a good home or away game.

            Now since I answered your question, please answer a few of mine. Do you buy season tickets every year? Do you care if the home schedule sucks? Do you care if we don’t have many/any great home environments for recruiting?

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            • Puffdawg

              He didn’t say good or bad. He said “unique”. With a 50/50 split (in the tailgate and the stadium), it’s unique. There is nothing else quite like it, save the Red River Shootout.

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              • Brandon M

                And I LOVE that aspect of it. It’s different than any other game we play or really anyone else plays anymore and I’m not quite ready to give that up.

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              • ATL Dawg

                LOL, good grief. He asked me if I had ever been. He didn’t ask if I agree with him on whether it was “unique” or not.

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            • Brandon M

              I was a season ticket holder for years but dropped them in 2016… (just had a child and the cost/benefit analysis said there are better ways to spend my hard earned money these days). But I do still go to 1-2 games per year in Athens and every year to Jax. So in my case (I’m not going to watch a game in hogtown) I’d be losing a great game every year that is unique in the sense its in a different town and the crowd/fans are split 50/50 to get one in Athens every other year.

              The home schedule sucking recently has been more a result of the rest of the SEC East sucking than anything else which is out of Georgia’s control. It’s cyclical though, so some of those programs will create a better home schedule and better home environments for recruiting when they get better.

              I honestly don’t think moving UF to home and home would benefit or cost Georgia significantly in either direction. But I love the game and the tradition so I’m happy that it’s staying where it is for a few more years at least.

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              • ATL Dawg

                That’s cool. I respect your opinion and what you want personally but the one thing I would argue about there is giving UGA a pass on their scheduling just because the east has been down. First off, the east teams only represent half of our schedule (6 of the 12 games). And second, playing the best of those teams out of state every year absolutely is in Georgia’s control.

                But whatever, I’m kind of worn out for today on this topic (not blaming you or anyone else – just stating fact). So if you want to respond with a rebuttal, I’m cool with that – have at it. Regardless, have a good weekend.

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          • greg63

            You didn’t ask me the question, but I’m gonna give my .02 anyway. I go every year. I enjoy the trip and meeting up with friends. I enjoy the pregame and the tailgate leading up to the game. That’s really where it ends for me. The game itself is not better than a good home night or 3:30 game. It could be a #1 vs #2 and the atmosphere would pale in comparison to a night game in Athens or Gainesville. Just use the ND game this year as an example. I guess I’m fine either way, but the game atmosphere is just OK to me.

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            • Brandon M

              I don’t know. I’m not sure there’s anything like getting to watch the entire other side of the stadium full of sad gator fans filing for the exits late in the 4th of a Dawg victory.

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    • PTC DAWG

      Apparently, you have already started whining…

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      • ATL Dawg

        Says the guy who doesn’t donate or buy season tickets.

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        • PTC DAWG

          You have no idea how much I donate to UGA…I have said I haven’t bought season tickets in years.

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          • ATL Dawg

            Thanks for at least admitting you don’t buy season tickets.

            You’ve definitely stated that you don’t donate to the athletic department. And that’s what we’re talking about here. We’re not talking about the university (or any other quasi-charity that exists out there in the world). We’re talking about the professional sports organization that is loosely affiliated with the university (i.e. the athletic department…and definitely not a charity or even quasi-charity).

            You may want to think about including this disclaimer when you’re posting your judgements about what the people who actually buy the product should accept. That way we don’t have to keep going through this.

            Guess I’m not tired of this topic after all. Late afternoon second wind.

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  12. Brandon M

    $1,000,000 million? A trillion dollars no wonder they decided to keep the game in Jax.

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  13. 3rdandGrantham

    I just want to say that I fully admit I was wrong, and apologies for being so certain previously that the game would not renew past the previous expiration date of 2021. My source inside the AD – whom I relied on – obviously was wrong, and apparently many other people inside the AD were surprised that this new deal got done (many were certain this wasn’t going to happen).

    I just hope I’m not wrong on my preseason prediction that UGA would win the natty this year with a 14-1 record. As of now, my prediction certainly is on shaky footing.

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  14. Even the recruiting angle is being pushed down … when this happens, the game ain’t leaving Jacksonville for anything other than money.

    Little Nicky and his minions in the SEC office in Birmingham are going to fight this tooth and nail.

    https://uga.rivals.com/news/georgia-proposal-would-bring-change-relief-for-recruits

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  15. Macallanlover

    This was a slam dunk for both the city, and the two schools. Any party involved would have been really stupid for altering this, other than upping the ante, which they did. I can understand the shorter duration, lot of balls in the air within the next 5 years. Any long term contracts should be approached very carefully. Good news, at least for the coming four years, especially for UGA. There are several ways to improve home schedules without letting the gaytors contaminate Sanford one year, and UGA having to even sleep near G’ville, much less play on their nasty soil surrounding by delusional idiots who just discovered CFB recently, and now are finding it is tougher than they thought…again.

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  16. Faulkner

    So they are currently only getting 250K per year to play in J’ville? Is that correct? That seems way low to me. Would have thought that the teams would be getting 2-3 million a year for all the visitors they bring in that weekend.

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