November 4, 2019 · 7:02 AM

It’s tough making ends meet.

The next time somebody asks you how schools can afford to pay college athletes, show them this:

The point isn’t that college coaches are overpaid.  It’s that your typical AD is lazy, stupid or both and has to spend all that money on something.

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36 responses to “It’s tough making ends meet.”

  1. Bulldog Joe
    November 4, 2019 at 7:20 AM

    Time to step up our recruiting in Florida.

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  2. Aladawg
    November 4, 2019 at 7:23 AM

    Point we’ll made. Supposedly intelligent people, and not just AD’s , but University presidents and trustees are showing their total lack of intelligence.
    Nauseating!

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  3. Bulldog Joe
    November 4, 2019 at 7:29 AM

    “Willie, it’s Nick Saban…”

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  4. eethomaswfnc
    November 4, 2019 at 7:35 AM

    I still have no idea what F$U was thinking when they hired Taggart. Now they’ll pay $30m for their mistake. Will the president and/or the AD pay with their jobs as well?

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    • ASEF
      November 4, 2019 at 7:59 AM

      Willie got rave reviews for his work at Western Kentucky and South Florida. It seemed a little overblown to me, and it was obvious FSU fans were projecting a lot of optimism onto a mixed record.

      He really flattered some boosters who really believed that a guy who loved FSU as much as they did would make them great again. They were still hurting from Jimbo walking out on them, and Willie was the opposite of that.

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      • UnderDog68
        November 4, 2019 at 9:20 AM

        The AD who brokered that hire and that buy-out left FSU holding the bag a few months later when he took a job with the NCAA. Ex-players had a big role in this hiring…and firing. Moral of the story is, keep the ex-players’ hands off the football program. Anytime a coach gets the tag ‘player’s coach’, you know it’s not usually gonna turn out well.

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        • Bat City Dawg
          November 4, 2019 at 9:50 AM

          Probably not the right hire to begin with. but Jimbo deserves a ton of the fault for this crappy roster and the culture. If you take out the Jameis years, Jimbo is nothing but an above average coach.

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      • Russ
        November 4, 2019 at 11:52 AM

        Yeah, his record is a little skewed at WKU and USF because he started both places with terrible records and then improved them both. But then he quickly jumped to the next job so there’s no history of him sustaining it. I thought he might have a shot at success after he cleaned up the cesspool left behind by Jimbo. But maybe they’re deciding they should win will cleaning up the cesspool. Or maybe the cesspool is starting to look like a swimming pool.

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        • Joe Dash (@Dashlok)
          November 4, 2019 at 12:09 PM

          In today’s world of transfer portal, there is no reason a team of FSU’s stature should be this terrible in his 2nd year. I’m also not sure where this idea that Jimbo left the cupboard bare a la Spurrier at USCe. Even allowing for some recruiting busts, they had like the 6 or 7th best ratio of blue chip recruits in the nation this year. That reflects bad coaching. I’m not saying they should be beating Clemson, but they should be competitive with a bad Miami team. It was clear that his firing was inevitable.

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          • Bat City Dawg
            November 4, 2019 at 1:11 PM

            As I understand it, the culture was pretty rotten under Jimbo. So blue chip ratios be damned if nobody gives a turkey. To be clear, I am also not a Willie apologist.. I heard an interview with him on Sirus before last season and was left terribly unimpressed, with what was just a layup interview (i think i mentioned it in the comments here last fall).

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  5. MDDawg
    November 4, 2019 at 7:40 AM

    Is that $30 million the total of the buyouts for all of those contracts? Or the total for him and his entire staff at FSU?

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    • Cojones
      November 4, 2019 at 12:41 PM

      I’ve read those numbers in the way you imply – Taggart’s is around 28M and the rest pays off his entire staff.

      Still, in a part of the country that suppresses the black vote and black success, they have now made Coach Taggart the richest black man in all of South Georgia and North Florida.

      Karma.

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  6. Paul
    November 4, 2019 at 7:48 AM

    I’ll take “or both” for a thousand please, Alex.

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  7. Bright Idea
    November 4, 2019 at 7:59 AM

    So what box did Taggart check to keep getting promoted? Did he pull a big shocker on a Thursday night ESPN game or what? Just askin’?

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  8. ASEF
    November 4, 2019 at 8:02 AM

    So you’re saying a player payroll might limit how much money an agent can fleece?

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  9. practicaldawg
    November 4, 2019 at 8:09 AM

    There’s great money in being a horrific coach at a big school. Take the buyout and never work again. You’ll make more money per hour than just about anyone else on the planet. It’s the same golden parachute that exists on Wall Street.

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  10. 3rdandGrantham
    November 4, 2019 at 8:11 AM

    Yep, and the AD who inexplicably hired Taggert washed his entire hands of the situation by abruptly resigning and joining the NCAA in an executive role reporting directly to Emmert before things really got ugly.

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  11. Reverend Whitewall
    November 4, 2019 at 8:20 AM

    This seems a little disingenuous. At both WKU and USF, a lot of his losses were in the first 2 years at both schools from taking over rebuilds, and he ended up leaving both in much better shape than he found them. His records tended to improve almost every year.

    As for the buyout figure, keep in mind that’s including buyouts in both directions. Any buyouts to the first three schools were money being paid because he chose to leave. The FSU money was paid the opposite way, because they wanted him to leave. But it’s not like he was paid a total of $30 mil to leave those schools. Like I said, just a little disingenuous how this tweet portrays it.

    Taggart did a bad job at FSU, perhaps the Peter Principle in effect here, but his resume at the time he was hired was better than it’s being portrayed now.

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    • dawgman3000
      November 4, 2019 at 9:11 AM

      Spot on Rev.

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      • Chi-town Dawg
        November 4, 2019 at 10:33 AM

        While the $30M figure is inaccurate – it’s more like $21M to $23M per ESPN plus the cost of buying out his coaching staff:

        “Under the terms of Taggart’s six-year, $30 million contract, FSU’s athletic department will owe him 85% of his remaining compensation through Jan. 31, 2024, which is between $17 million and $18 million. The Seminoles also paid Oregon a $3 million buyout when it hired him away from the Ducks in December 2017, as well as the remaining $1.3 million of a buyout that Oregon owed South Florida when it hired him in December 2016.”

        You’re shifting the deck chairs when we’re talking about such a large number for a colossal mistake. Prior to the FSU hire, he really only had one breakout season and that was his final year at USF (10-2). His last 2 seasons at WKU were 7-5. This is one of the challenges top tier P-5 football programs have when hiring unproven coaches. They probably underperform or whiff completely a lot more often than they succeed. I think FSU also rushed the hiring process due to recruiting and Taggart already had a big question mark hanging over him due to the S&C scandal at Oregon. It seemed like a very questionable hire on so many levels.

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  12. Mayor
    November 4, 2019 at 8:26 AM

    Willie Taggart has become the Charlie Weiss of this decade. How can people be that stupid?

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  13. Spike
    November 4, 2019 at 8:28 AM

    Boy Howdy.. you can say that again, Bluto.

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  14. more spinners
    November 4, 2019 at 8:57 AM

    Your point is well intended Senator.
    Thanks for the reminder to we alums.
    But I also agree with Aladawg.
    I’ll add in the their hypocrisy.
    Nickel and dime facility improvements for athletes and fans.
    It is just house money to them.
    Maybe a dorm mom would better serve FSU.

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  15. Union Jack
    November 4, 2019 at 9:24 AM

    Someone on the Twitters (Feldman or Wolken or Forde?) suggested that FSU’s best realistic options, meaning not Corch or B Stoops, would be Mark Stoops and The Gus Bus.

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    • Joe Dash (@Dashlok)
      November 4, 2019 at 12:15 PM

      Auburn would probably pay FSU some $$ to hire Gus away right now. Would spare them having to pay a massive buyout of their own.

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      • Cojones
        November 4, 2019 at 12:50 PM

        Taking Gus would be like double-dipping into shit. I think they can read and better understand at FSU presently since they said they wouldn’t take Urban if Taggart was hit by a bus tomorrow.

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  16. 123fakest
    November 4, 2019 at 10:52 AM

    Dear F$U,

    Get woke, go broke.

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