Death by murder

One of the puzzling comments from Kirby Smart in the wake of Saturday’s win:

I suspect this was more deflection from criticism of the offensive game plan we watched against South Carolina and Kentucky.  In any event, let me make it clear:  the fan base hasn’t wanted Jake Fromm’s head, ever.  What it’s wanted is for the coaching staff to have the same faith in Fromm’s ability and leadership as it has.

That’s exactly what we saw on Georgia’s last and biggest third down conversion of the day, too.

Don’t take my word for it, either.  Here’s Matt Hinton on the subject.

A bit of a heavy-handed sentiment when the truth is closer to the opposite: If anything, the overwhelming consensus among Georgia fans before Saturday was that coaches didn’t trust their veteran, NFL-bound quarterback enough. They weren’t the only ones. The low-level buzz that plagued the offense over the past few weeks — murmurs which briefly escalated into outright boos in the Bulldogs’ waterlogged, Week 8 win over Kentucky — had almost nothing to do with doubts about Fromm’s ability and everything to do with Smart’s and offensive coordinator James Coley’s reluctance to exploit it to its full potential. The “doubters” weren’t watching Fromm and wondering about his arm. They were wondering why he wasn’t letting it rip.

Look, in a sense, I don’t really care if Kirby wants to use us and the media as a prop to motivate his team to coach and play to the best of their ability.  Whatever works, and all that.  It does come off sounding a little silly in the aftermath, though.

In any event, if the strategy succeeded, as Bill Withers once said, keep on using us until you use us up.

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28 responses to “Death by murder

  1. Bigshot

    So Pablo Fields is at it again, huh?

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    • dawgman3000

      His son is doing quite well where he is, but keep the hate alive tho.

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      • Macallanlover

        I think the hate is (as usual) coming from the other side. It is a very small group of very mouthy fans who have been taking the cheap shots. He isn’t totally wrong, they have been attacking Jake regardless of how the blame should be distributed. I do believe the booing was directed at the coaches, but on numerous sites there is a weak group of folks who seem to have another agenda. To be honest, a subset within this group are attacking more because they feel UGA should go to an offense which requires a dual threat QB, where Jake would not be the best choice. So that complicates defining the legit, versus the personal, imo.

        But if we go in that direction, the personnel at several positions would have to be swapped out, it isn’t just the QB. Make no mistake about it, in this offense, we have the best option calling signals. I think the use of that word by Kirby in that moment simply shows how incredulous KS feels about the crazies among us, and I can understand why he is upset with it. No place for the type of reaction against Jake we have seen, UGA fans deserve ridicule for, once again, eating their own. A handful of folks on here should take a look in the mirror and ask themselves where this really comes from. Jake is simply not a liability at QB, there isn’t a lay in our offense he cannot execute well, unless you need a Hail Mary of 60+ yards.

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        • dawgman3000

          Of course you think the hate is coming from the other side because for some people it’s always the other sides fault. I find it quite interesting that some want to place Fromm above criticism. They sure didn’t do that for the current qb at Ohio St. Saying that Fromm is a very good qb, but he’s not elite , doesn’t amount to hate, that’s just that persons opinion.

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          • Macallanlover

            Those are the moderates, they have always said Jake was a solid QB, and very, very few have ever put him at the top of any national list of college QBs, top 5-10 most would say (not enough arm strength, not tall enough, not a big enough running threat, small hands, etc, are comments that float among most Fromm fans.) You know that isn’t the comments or thoughts that drew Kirby’s ire. But of course, reality and honesty have never been your strong suits. Bringing Fields into a Fromm discussion is purely a thought haters of Fromm have, and says where your emp

            Fields is a separate issue, and only idiots ignore his ability to run the ohio offense. I don’t know if Fields would have been able to compete this season, but his lack of experience in an offense like UGA’s made it a non issue. You might check with some who witnessed that at practice. There was a reason he wasn’t running the whole offense when he came in; you think the staff didn’t want the backup getting some quality reps? What possible reason would there be for that when playing for a championship?

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  2. Mayor

    I dunno Senator. I heard an awful lot of ESPN minions over the bye week talking about how Jake really wasn’t a very good QB and the Georgia receivers couldn’t catch the ball.

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    • Cojones

      I heard it also and it really pisses me that their lazy butts won’t look at his credentials every time they use his name. I did hear the SEC cahannel push back on that natl take several times including this A.M..

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  3. J-Dawg

    I’ll say it again: Give me Jake over Tua Toyota or that arrogant jerk Burrow any day.

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  4. Junior

    Yeah I think there definitely was a narrative about Fromm taking steps backward and also questioning his ability in light of what’s going on at Ohio State with Fields. I like seeing a coach get passionate about his players the way Smart is. Rarely do I recall Richt doing the same. I think he did it once with Blair Walsh. I get what you are saying but I think there was definitely some of the fan base doing the same as the pundits. There’s one maroon out there on YouTube calling himself Uncle Lou and he was certain Fromm was the issue with the offense. He is not so bright.

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    • Joseh

      You don’t remember that post-game interview after the 2013 LSU game?

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    • MDDawg

      I probably should have read your comment more closely before I posted the clip of Richt. You’re probably right that he rarely did it, but he rarely had to do it too. I’d say the same is probably true of Kirby. He has no problem standing up for the players, but when you’ve been as successful as he has these last couple of seasons, you probably don’t have to defend them that often.

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  5. Saltwater Dawg

    I think this play is a great example of the change that was needed in the route schemes, which we saw all night. Besides the TE route, check out D-Rob. He runs the same route that Cager ran for the TD, and is also wide open with a LB trying to cover, already behind him. Hitting D-Rob would have been another TD.

    Not saying Fromm made the wrong decision, just that it was extremely refreshing to see multiple receivers open throughout the game, especially against DBU.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      I noticed the same thing. when Wolf and D-Rob crossed, it crossed up the defenders (DBU?) and he really could’ve gone either way.

      Also, this play was a great encapsulation of 3rd and G…UF starts with 5 down lineman (the much vaunted bear formation), and sends 2 more blitzers.

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    • ugafidelis

      He probably had passed D-Rob on the progression and couldn’t come back to him because he was about to get drilled.

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  6. 2675miller

    A couple of things….1. Everyone is excited that the offense scored 24 points against uf. That ought to tell us something. 2. Until Saturday UGA’s longest completion against sec opponents was 15 yards. 3. Jake’s numbers look remarkably similar to Hutson Mason’s. The offense looks remarkably the same as well. My theory is that there is a problem with Fromm’s shoulder. He hasn’t had a problem getting downfield until this season.

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  7. Russ

    Yeah, Kirby is just trying to find a key to motivate the team. No one seriously doubts all the 5* talent he’s accumulated. They just doubt the coach are going to turn it loose. I know I did.

    Glad some of the press is pointing that out.

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  8. dawgdaddy36

    Bill Wither’s reference FTW

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  9. Go Dawgs!

    OK, here’s what I don’t get about Kirby’s postgame rants about the fans and the media: I thought that Kirby was supposed to be laser focused on recruiting at all times. How does going out and playing up this (invented) notion that the fans had turned on Fromm help with recruiting? Why do you want to plant the seed in the heads of a blue-chip recruit that Georgia fans will “murder” you as soon as you have a bad game? I have not talked to or read a single Georgia fan who was killing Jake Fromm. There were some, sure, who would have preferred to go with Fields and that’s fine. But nobody out there thought that Fromm couldn’t do the job, even in the face of the worst two games of his career (one of which was the fault of weather and game plan, the other of which he simply played very poorly in). Everyone I spoke to or read online was complaining about COACHING and the gameplan that was handcuffing Fromm. The boos? They were about COACHING and the gameplan. We were doubting COLEY and also Kirby. If that hurt Kirby’s feelings, then fine. I get that. But don’t go out there and tell the world that Georgia fans weren’t behind Jake Fromm and didn’t think he could throw the ball. That’s garbage. It isn’t disingenuous, it’s an outright lie.

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    • MDDawg

      I think he’s drummed it up to be more than it is, but I’ve seen some comments from fans questioning Fromm’s abilities, so it’s not like Kirby just invented some conspiracy. And it’s also been asked in the media multiple times “How will Georgia fans feel if Ohio State makes it to the playoffs this season and the Dawgs don’t?”

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    • Athens Townie

      Relax. Just a head coach sticking up for his players.

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  10. California dawg

    I interpreted Kirby’s ‘I want to thank the fans even if they don’t think Jake can throw the ball” comment in his post-game presser as a joke, as did the press room as he got quite a few chuckles and even smiled a bit. It’s a slippery slope though to continue using “bitter fans” as motivation fuel when our frustration wasn’t with the players but the offensive coaching staff who haven’t been setting the team/offense up for success. My gut says he’s referring to the media more than fans which okay fine, they’re an easy punching bag, although frankly a lot of them have been more than valid in calling out Coley.

    I don’t know. Just keep winning and Kirby can say whatever the hell he wants.

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  11. CEPH

    Kirby should acknowledge that most of the criticism is directed at the coaching staff, hmmmm wonder why he doesn’t acknowledge that!!!!!

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  12. CEPH

    Is it possible for Kirby to say anything more stupid?

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  13. Charlottedawg

    News flash: coaches stick up for their players and competitive people will use any slight real or perceived to focus their grind. I for one hope Kirby, Jake, the players and the coaches STILL think everyone is doubting them and wriiten them off. They’ll need to channel every ounce of that hate to make it through unscathed.

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