Manball doesn’t care about your feelings.

Gotta admit, I was fairly amused to find in last night’s comments some of the same suspects railing about Georgia’s stilted offensive performance as a fatal flaw when it comes to winning the SEC/making the CFP being among those quick to throw South Carolina shade every time I bring up Georgia’s robust statistical profile.

Speaking of which, Bill Connelly now has Georgia fourth in SP+.

Like it or not — and judging from those comments, many of you are definitely in the latter camp — Kirby’s built his team in the way he’s most comfortable with coaching.  It’s not exactly chopped liver, either.  Last night, the defense posted its third shutout of the season.  It’s only yielded 57 points in six conference game; the next best tally, Auburn’s, is twice that amount.  It still hasn’t given up a rushing touchdown.  Those are defensive stats most of us would have sacrificed our right arms for just a few years ago.

Hate to be that Erk guy, but if you’re not giving up much, you’ll be in every game you play.  Doesn’t mean you’ll win, of course, but as Woody Allen once said, 80% of life is just showing up.  That’s where Kirby is coaching from and the best we can do, speaking as someone who would certainly like to see a more consistent offense, is deal with it on those exact terms.

So you can @South Carolina me all you want, as long as you remember that cuts both ways.  If Boom can beat Kirby, surely it’s not nearly as big a stretch to think Georgia can play with ‘Bama or LSU.

(I think that was the opposite of a GTP existential post…)

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  1. Irony of all irony: I actually think that we are exactly the type of team built to beat LSU. Not saying we will mind you—-I still think it’s going to be a drudge just to get to Atlanta. But you have to slow the game way down and limit possessions.

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      Bingo. To me, the best thing about LSU beating Bama is that we play them instead of Bama in the SECCG. A play in game if there ever was one.

      That is not to say that we will beat LSU, but I think we have a better chance. I believe Bama is just a little too much in Kirby’s head. Plus, for reasons I can’t explain, if we lost to LSU I would hate it less than I would losing to Bama a third time in three years.

      And yeah, I know we have to win 3 more SEC games to even worry about it, but still, I’m just a fan. 🙂

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    • Anon

      Insane thoughts. We ain’t tough enough. They beat the socks off GA

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  2. Derek

    What championships has defense ever won? Other than all of them that is.

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    • Will (The other one)

      Not all of them. 2010 Auburn’s defense was terrible.

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      • Doug

        In much the same way that the ACC is currently “Clemson and 13 other teams,” that Auburn squad was Cam Newton and 21 other guys. Without Cam they would’ve been lucky to finish with a winning record.

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  3. Spike

    D fence ! D fence! (Sic)

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  4. This defense is elite. They don’t have the superstar playmakers of the 2017 defense, but they have a bunch of dudes that get after people. For those who continue to take shots at LeCounte, there’s no other player on our defensive roster that could make that play. We’re going to miss J.R. Reed next year. Crowder and Rice are absolutely solid. The play Rice made to keep the rushing streak alive was amazing. Tyler Clark is going to make someone very happy in April.

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  5. Russ

    I love our defense and I thought we’d have a good one. I think they’re better than I expected, but I just can’t see us keeping up with LSU or some of the offenses we’d face in the playoffs.

    The offense is great for an AP/UPI poll world where we could win an argument as the best team in the land. In a playoff world I can’t see them keeping pace with the spread offenses out there, and think we’ll be outscored. I guess we will find out in Atlanta.

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    • Tony Barnfart

      But are they really gonna be able to run away from us ? I used to fret about this but we are grinding offenses into a fine powder. LSU is not putting up 40 points on this defense. And maybe not even 30.

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      • Will (The other one)

        Bama was playing pretty solid defense before 3:30 yesterday too. Let’s not let two shutouts vs a backup QB and a former WR turned 3rd string QB result in completely forging Florida’s backup QB had no INTs, a couple touchdowns and did decent work vs our defense. Burrow might be a little better than Trask.

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        • Russ

          Exactly. I don’t want to Dawggrade our defensive performance this year but we do need to be realistic about who we’ve faced. I can agree that we’re a better defense than Bama right now but LSU offense is a different beast.

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  6. truck

    When any of my buddies complain about our offense, I just tell them all, “Kirby wants to be the 1966 Green Bay Packers.” Not a bad goal to shoot for.

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  7. Gaskilldawg

    Contrast 2 SEC wins by 27 points.
    Why is 41-14 better than 27-0?

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  8. TN Dawg

    I’m a convert.

    I found everything to be amazing and impressive and see no reason for concern going forward.

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    • You sound like someone who will be satisfied when they lose again.

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      • TN Dawg

        Far from it.

        I don’t see this team losing again..

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      • Mike Cooley

        I don’t doubt the Tennessee dog’s loyalty. I think he just loves to bitch which makes him like a lot of our fan base and his act found a small audience during the game last night and now he thinks he’s funny and wants more of that attention.

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        • illinidawg

          He’s a fucking asshole anyway you slice it and I don’t give a shit who likes it.

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          • D as in Dawg

            I like it and don’t care that you don’t care. He can’t say what he’d like to say because trolls will come flying in with f bombs. Turns out some trolls will fly in with f bombs no matter what he says. By the way, I picture you as this formidable Big Show looking character walking the streets choke slamming everyone. Is that about right? Lol.

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  9. Excellent post. These two things CAN (believe it or not) be true at the same time:

    1) South Carolina loss was an embarrassment and due at least in part to CKS being stubborn with his game plan when it was obvious it was failing him.

    2) CKS is also an excellent coach with a very good team this year that is probably capable of doing some great things if it can maintain its focus.

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    • Cojones

      I suppose that the 4 turnovers in the SC game was part of a game plan to test the D, eh? Stubborn on game plan had nothing to do with the loss, and the ensuing unreasonable argument castigating Smart”s game plan is just part of our fan base teasing him, right?

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      • I hope you’re trying to be funny but I’m missing your joke somehow…

        I said “due at least in part to CKS being stubborn with his game plan.” Obviously his stubbornness isn’t the ONLY reason (I would argue it isn’t even the BIGGEST reason) the team lost to SC.

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  10. And LSU has 3 wins against S&P+ Top 10. Florida, Auburn and Bama. Great googley moogley.

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  11. J.M.

    The defense is certainly national championship-quality. This team’s fate will be determined by how close the offense comes to reaching its potential in the final weeks.

    To me, not a thing has changed since day one of this season. We’re good enough to beat everyone left on the schedule and win the whole ball of wax — we just have to go out and do it. Problem is, LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson can all say the same thing. And right now, those teams seem to be operating at something closer to their peak more consistently than Georgia is. That’s my concern as this season approaches its moment of truth.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      Georgia would likely turn a game against any of those teams into an ugly grind. Partly because the defense is great and partly because they’ll grind out enough offensive yards to keep them off the field. They’ll need to score touchdowns in the red zone to win, though.

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      • Tony Barnfart

        I dream of watching an SECCG where the whole world hates us for turning the whole affair into an under 3hr affair with little scoring and just long clock chewing drives

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  12. Bill Glennon

    After watching the receivers last night, and seeing a game where Cager was in and then out (he was out the whole SC game), I am less critical of Coley and Kirby. Pickens and Cager are the only two legitimate receiving options on the team.

    Kirby and Coley are still not scheming guys open well (where were the TEs last night) and they still play too much in a box, but none of these receivers get separation. Even Cager and Pickens don’t get separation as much as they out-position and out-jump smaller DBs.

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    • The Dawg abides

      They certainly “schemed” the TE open on that play on the goal line. Fromm just missed him.

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    • Mike Cooley

      D Rob is a strange case to me. No doubt that more could be done to help get him open but with his speed it’s odd that he seems to have trouble getting open and now after nearly two seasons he’s just a fast guy and not a real threat much of the time. Contrast that with Pickens who doesn’t have blazing speed by SEC standards but just seems to understand how to play receiver.

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      • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

        In my mind that has to do with how they use him. Ideally, they will use all their weapons, but you know there is a progression on every designed pass play, and sometimes his job is to block, or to clear out an area to set up an opening for someone else, and to be an option if those don’t work. I appreciate the job he is doing. The guys that worry me more are guys that can get open, but still can’t catch a contested ball (I am looking at you Matt Landers & Simmons). But sometimes these things go in streaks; maybe their time will come this year and we will talk about how great they are. I hope.

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        • Mike Cooley

          Yeah I agree on Landers and Simmons. I wish we would just stop thinking of them as options. Landers couldn’t catch a cold. Simmons seems like he tries hard but just can’t get out of his own way.

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  13. Get through AU and then we get our showdown in SECC. Lots of time left to peak over these next several weeks.

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  14. TMCDAWG

    What did Erk say? If they can’t score well at least tie them!

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  15. 2675miller

    I think our defense is good. I also keep in mind that the past four games they have faced offenses led by the backup qb for 2.5 games and the second backup the other 1.5 games. They should have looked dominating in those games. They haven’t faced anyone who resembles LSU, UAT, OSU, OU and maybe not even Clemson.

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    • Cojones

      Our D is good, something that Mizzou’s coach thought was part of a really good overall team, but you can’t come here to read about it because some are still hung up on Kirby’s O not playing to their directions. While they were complaining about the O they really missed a good game.

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  16. I felt really silly being anything less than excited about a 27-0 beating of an SEC opponent. So I thought about it a lot.

    I think the part that bothers and worries me is that we don’t seem to be even trying on offense. It isn’t a secret that throwing the ball downfield occasionally stretches the defense and opens up other opportunities. But our first pass further than 15 yards came in the middle of the Florida game. WTF.

    There have been numerous games where all we do is dink and dunk exclusively, and let teams hang around. As a result, we have starters in late in the game and pile up injuries.

    I dunno. I’m not in the arena. It just seems like we could be more creative on offense and put more effort there without harming our amazing defense.

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    • Cojones

      Hasn’t it come to your attention that we are missing several excellent pass receivers who carried us through game after game last year? The same guy who threw successfully to them now has several young receivers who need another dose of confidence to reach that past level and they are receiving their passes from the same guy as last year’s receivers did. The receivers are getting better, but we don’t have the same confidence receivers gave this team last year and have to scheme the game until they reach that level.

      Soon, Grasshopper, soon.

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      • I hope you are right.

        It worries me that we never even try to throw the ball downfield.

        It worries me that our offense does not show a single bit of creativity.

        It is not lost on me that I am feeling down after a 27-0 win………… weird feeling.

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  17. Cojones

    Astounding to me that Mizzou drove the field by passing and rushing for a first down to the two-yd line. Instead of being able to push a rushing TD across, they ended up losing 3-yds and turning the ball over on downs with no TD or points to show after their effort getting there and ended up facing a D that said “No more!”.

    That was a great goal-line stand with only those in the arena knowing just how excellent their effort was.

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    • Uglydawg

      I think the bulk of that last Mizzy drive was against Georgia’s second defense. When they sniffed the goal line, the regular guys came in and made a statement.
      This is a “Junkyard Dog Defense” and should allow Georgia to hang with anyone. I’m worried about those offensive injuries, though.

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  18. I respect the man for it. It’s obvious we have a new OC and replaced nearly the entire WR production. We’ve also played musical chairs on the OL.

    I was concerned about Coley early but now I think it just it what it is. Protect the ball, play D and take whatever points we can get and hope that’s enough or that the offense will evolve and make big plays. The lack of tds is frustrating but at least we’re moving the ball better and are mixing it up better. I think we’ve led in plays and time of possession every game and that helps the defense tremendously.

    I also don’t think enough credit is given to the fact that most of our conference opponents have had a week off before playing us

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  19. And now we get to go to Auburn after they’ve had a week off. All things considered this team is doing pretty good and I believe they’ll at least have us on the next couple tough games and that’s really all I can expect.

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  20. Just keep working and find a way to take advantage of single and press coverage and 9 in the box. These defenses are begging to give up big plays. It’s rarely pretty and may get us blown out but this team seems built for the fight and I’ve actually enjoyed seeing it. I actually think 2019 might be Smart’s best coaching job to this point.

    I know people have been worried about the Auburn game and things seem kinda stacked against us going in there but I think we win IF we protect the ball. The defense will carry if they’re not on the field all game.

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  21. Doug

    I’ve been just as frustrated as anyone watching our offense at times this season, but given the choice between being 1992 Alabama (every game is a defensive slugfest) and 2010 Auburn (every game is a shootout), I’ll take ’92 Bama every time.

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    • Will (The other one)

      But if you were a top-rated WR recruit, the answer would be the opposite.
      You have to go all the way back to 2009 to find a team that won a national title with a great defense + conservative “don’t make mistakes” offense (and while no Gump will admit it, Colt McCoy getting injured likely helped a ton there.)
      When healthy, the line proved they could handle even elite pass rushers without help vs UF, Fromm is excellent on play-action, so…let’s just keep running on first and second down and make most passing downs obvious. The talent’s there to do it. And it was extra frustrating watching LSU come within 5 points in one game of what manball managed in 8 quarters+overtime against Bama.

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  22. more spinners

    Manball. What does that mean?
    Style points. What does that mean?
    The only difference in last night’s game and the SC game was that they did not get beat by a 2nd team starting QB.
    And Hot Rod bailing Kirby’s ass out.
    If not for Hot Rod there would be no manball or style points. He is the freaking offense!
    We started drinking in the 2nd quarter because the offense was so damn pathetic and frustrating watch. Honestly it was painful to watch!
    MIzzou could not win a corn hole game on the road right now.
    Something tells me if Kirby thinks he is going to beat Auburn with this offense, well, style points etc., the trip back across the Hooch could just dame well be very painful.

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  23. 69Dawg

    The thing that really concerns me, because of my Munson like affliction, is Jake. He takes too long with his reads. If Auburn’s DL does to us what they did to us last visit he will be disabled by half time. Love or hate Griese (sp) he did make some good observations about Fromm. His footwork is affecting his accuracy. He seems to be using his upper body too much and not putting his lower body into his throws. This progression thing is not on him but Coley has him only looking to his RB’s or TE’s as a last resort. Our RB’s can catch the ball and would be better served on a wheel route rather than running into an 8 to 9 man box. Coley is the main reason nobody is open. His idea of motion is to move the TE into an Hback position. Most of the modern Qb’s have the run pass option because they can run, Fromm can run but Kirby and Coley’s butts are puckered every time he does. I thing he is a great field general as we old farts used to call QB’s it just that he is not going to scare a first rate defense and neither are our receivers. Yes if we do get to play in the SECC I hope it is LSU because their offense won that game and our D at this point is better than Bama.

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