SECCG motivation

Any of you who think LSU is coming to Atlanta comfortable in the knowledge that, win or lose, the Tigers are a lock for the CFP and thus maybe play a little relaxed, need to disabuse yourself of that notion.  Sure, LSU will be in no matter what, but there is still something pretty significant left for it to play for.

In some years, the top spot may not matter — in fact, it may be worth avoiding since the No. 1 seed has yet to win the title in the five playoffs since the current format began. But this season, the spot may well carry a significant advantage — avoiding the defending champion, Clemson, which has won 27 consecutive games, in the semifinals on Dec. 28.

Could mopping up the selection committee’s number four team Saturday — a team that has yet to give up more than 20 points in a game all season — propel LSU past Ohio State into the top spot, thus avoiding Clemson in the semi-finals?  If you’re LSU, you’d at least like for the committee to be in the position of having to consider that.

Georgia is going to get the Tigers’ best shot.

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38 responses to “SECCG motivation

  1. Cpark58

    Be the hammer not the nail

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  2. J-Dawg

    They also get our best shot. We’ve been jerking off all year: now it’s time for the orgasm. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  3. Bigshot

    UGA’s only hope is that the SEC will want to get 2 teams in and the refs will give us some breaks. Now if you believe that will happen, I got some nice beachfront property in New Mexico I’d like to sell you.

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    • The Dawg abides

      My only hope is that your miserable, negative ass will just STFU. I mean, why do you even follow the team? You’ve been a POS troll from all the way back to the old Dawg Pound board.

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      • Mark

        Don’t encourage him. The attention is what he craves.

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        • Macallanlover

          There is more than one hanging around the board these days, some new, and some that appear anytime they can stir up something up when the waters aren’t smooth. I don’t post during games but reading the game day thread after is usually goof for laughs, but these aren’t funny any more because this is contrived, phony….they aren’t one of us. The attacks on the players are the worst to me but I really just hate the slimy way these guys work. Pathetic.

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  4. TimberRidgeDawg

    Clemson is the one you want to play in the first round. They may be that good but the only thing we know for sure is that they’ve played against nothing but air for the whole year. They need to actually play someone with a pulse before we call them great. Any number of teams could have gone undefeated against their schedule.

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  5. Anyone else hearing Coley is a candidate for FSU head coach job?

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  6. I couldn’t resist. . .not the best seats but I got em!

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  7. MDDawg

    I know it’s not the point of this post, but I really don’t like this idea that LSU is in regardless of this Saturday’s outcome. Conference championships should count for something and this game should be treated as a quarterfinal. If UGA wins then the final top 4 should be tOSU, UGA, Clemson, and Oklahoma or Utah (assuming all those other teams win of course).

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    • ASEF

      Utah over LSU because the P12 exists and Utah won it? A team that lost to USC, who had to play a 3rd string QB that lit up the Utes for something like 400 passing yards? No fluky 4 picks in the rain – just got beat straight up.

      This idea that winning a crap conference means more than a body of work is going to kill college football. And it’s an insane position for a SEC fan to take. More often than not, two of the best teams in the country are in this conference.

      Limiting the SEC to one playoff team by definition for a great way to encourage recruits to head elsewhere.

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      • MDDawg

        First off, I said Oklahoma or Utah. So if you don’t like the Utes in the number four spot after they knock off a 10-2 top 15 Oregon, then put the Sooners in there after they knock off 11-1 top 10 Baylor (or vice versa if Baylor wins).

        Second, I never said that winning a crap conference should count more than a body of work. In the scenario I suggested, Utah’s or Oklahoma’s body of work would include some quality wins plus a championship, and LSU’s would include some quality wins minus the championship. Or if you think that winning a crap conference doesn’t matter, then leave Clemson out of the top four. And according to the CFP committee’s selection criteria, they also think conference championships should matter, along with other factors.

        I also never suggested that the SEC (or any conference for that matter) should be limited to one playoff team, but I really don’t care if that impacts recruiting one way or another.

        I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, in fact I expected it when I made my initial post above. But If you’re going to disagree with me, I’d appreciate it if you do so without putting words in my mouth or hurling insults.

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    • I totally agree with you. A conference championship should matter especially when you compare 2 teams with 1-loss records.

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      • ASEF

        It does matter. You won your conference. Congrats.

        Utah has beaten nobody this year and faces a lukewarm Oregon for a champion ship. LSU has beaten Bama, Auburn, and Florida. If they lose a close game to Georgia, then no way in hell should Utah jump them just because they had the good fortune of playing in Larry Scott’s kingdom.

        Let’s pretend Georgia has made its FG against SC. Are you really telling me you’d be cool with Utah over Georgia if an undefeated Georgia lost to LSU on a late FG?

        Not me

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        • Would you be saying the same thing if Oregon and Utah were both 1-loss teams and were 5 & 6 in the polls?

          Would I be happy if Georgia were undefeated and lost a close SECCG and got jumped? No, but I would understand the committee’s decision to value a conference championship.

          All of this demonstrates why I hate the committee concept to select the teams. The committee goes into a room and bends the “criteria” to suit whatever decision they come to. A BCS type of formula would at least bring objectivity to what is currently a very subjective and opaque process.

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          • ASEF

            No issues with a BCS/advanced metrics formula

            Huge issue with some magical multiplier via winning a conference championship. We act like it makes teams better than they really are. 4 SEC teams would go undefeated in the P12 this year. Five in the ACC.

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          • I agree to a point on the Conference championships, but look at it this way: Would Baylor, Clemson, Utah, or Ohio State be undefeated against (pick three) Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and Florida?
            I know I sound like an SEC homer, but if the shoe fits, right?
            All of these SEC teams have been or are in the top 10 this season and the SEC champ has to play at least three of them, four if they make it to the SECCG. and the opponent in the championship will be ranked at least 5th.

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      • Uglydawg

        Consider, ee…that if Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Alabama, LSU, TAM, Missouri, possibly Kentucky and Tennessee…could trade conferences with Clemson, they would be conference champs of the ACC. They’d be in the CFP. Same with some of the teams out of the BIG.
        There is one great conference and there are some good conferences and there are some really bad conferences.
        The idea that you beat up on a group of teams that happen to be organized into a conference…regardless of how bad that group of teams is…rates you into the CFP is folly.
        Alabama has dropped to number 9.
        Do you really think all eight of the teams above them are better?
        Do you want a tournament or a playoff of the best teams?

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        • I’m only using the committee’s criteria. Conference championships are supposed to matter to the committee.

          All of this highlights why the committee was a terrible construct for the selection.

          I personally would value 1 loss Utah’s or Oklahoma’s conference championship over a 1 loss non-champion LSU or anOSU. You wouldn’t … that doesn’t mean you’re wrong and I’m right (or vice versa).

          If chaos breaks out on Saturday, Sunday afternoon is going to be very interesting.

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          • MDDawg

            Maybe I’m giving the college Presidents and ADs too much credit, but I’ve always thought that the subjectivity of the rankings is exactly what they wanted because it keeps us chattering about it all season long.

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        • MDDawg

          I think you’re being a tad generous to Missouri, Kentucky, and Tennessee there, maybe aTm as well.

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          • Uglydawg

            I don’t think so…I didn’t say they would run the table in the ACC (although it wouldn’t surprise me)..I just think any of them would win the conference IF they swapped with Clemson.
            Again..not Clemson’s fault but good grief.

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        • Uglydawg

          My point stated in a little different fashion…Is there any conference with two or more teams that could win the SEC this year? No.
          There are two team outside the SEC that could compete at the level of the SEC’s upper echelon of teams. Clemson and anOSU. That’s it. That’s why conference championships are tainted evidence in a claim for a playoff bid.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      I can see Oregon beating Utah Friday.

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      • ASEF

        Forecast is heavy rain on an already sloppy field. Probably favors Utah’s game. Utah can’t cover athletic wides. They only faced one set this year (USC), and they got torched (with the 3rd string QB no less). 368 yards and 3 TDs on 32 attempts. Matt Fink with the 193 passer rating. 🙂

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    • Greg

      Same here, if we are lucky enough to beat them….they should be eliminated from consideration. No reason for the dawgs to possibly play them a second time. We would already know that Georgia is the better team, time to move on. Give someone else a chance to play that has not had that opportunity…..cause we don’t know until we know (“eye test”).

      Either that, or just eliminate the conference championship games….but most know that will not happen, too much money involved.

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  8. ApalachDawg

    For all the non soccer gurus out there, i equate the strength of the SEC to that of the EPL – which gets 4 teams in the Champions League whereas the Dutch league gets 1. Some leagues have more talent, better coaching and infiniti+1 resources at their disposal. Even some of the smaller league champions are not guaranteed a spot as they have a play in against other small league champions.

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  9. Mayor

    Well, there is that little matter of the winner gets to be called 2019 SEC Champion too. Why has the world of CFB suddenly become so obsessed with the 4 team playoff that winning the conference championship no longer matters?

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  10. CB

    Avoiding Clemson doesn’t seem like the best motivation, but I guess considering you’d likely get Utah in their place it’s makes a little more sense.

    Serious question that I have not been able to find the answer to as I’ve scoured the Internet. Are the semifinal matchups already set in regard to which seed goes where? Somebody told me the #1 seed gets to choose. Doesn’t sound right, but I couldn’t find anything to refute it. Anyone with a link would be greatly appreciated.

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