Will this be the offseason of our discontent?

Sounds like there are some cranky Georgia fans out there, alright.

Dawgs fans weren’t in a very good mood after another loss in the SEC Championship Game, this time a blowout, and a season that saw continued offensive struggles.

As reflected heavily in the Junkyard Mail, fan talk this week was full of discussion over what Kirby Smart needs to do about the offense (and whether he’ll do it), and what happened to Jake Fromm in his junior season.

In a way, it seems a little out of context.  After all, the Dawgs are in the midst of their third straight 11-win season.  They’ve made three straight appearances in the SECCG.  Both are first time accomplishments for the program.  They’re still sitting in the top five of the selection committee’s rankings, as well as the AP and Coaches Polls.  Wins over Tennessee, Florida and Auburn don’t suck.  Neither doesn’t the most lopsided Georgia win in the series with Georgia Tech.

And yet the angst in these parts is almost palpable.  Losing to a shitty South Carolina team at home certainly didn’t help and seeing an LSU team demonstrate the gap between the two programs was just as bad.

Maybe even more worrisome to the folks in Butts-Mehre is apathy (assuming there is some basic awareness of fan attitudes these days).  What does it say about us that a Sugar Bowl ticket can be had for considerably less money than a Sugar Bowl parking pass?

Not good, Bob.

So, even if it’s not as if the program is on the cusp of mediocrity again, there’s probably a need for a little short-term pizzazz to generate some enthusiasm from the fan base.

Fortunately, the early signing date is just around the corner.  If there’s something that’s perfectly within Kirby Smart’s wheelhouse, it’s recruiting… or is it?  Here’s how Seth Emerson ($$) sets the table for this week:

Whatever else you wanted to argue about Kirby Smart, no one has ever doubted his recruiting chops. Three full recruiting cycles at Georgia, three classes ranked in the top 3 nationally. One class the consensus No. 1. Another ranked No. 2. In short order, Smart made Georgia a recruiting powerhouse.

And yet when this past weekend began one would look at the national recruiting rankings for this cycle and think that Georgia was slipping: No. 8, per the 247SportsComposite. Only the fifth-best SEC class, even behind arch-rival Florida. Is the powerhouse showing wear and tear from a couple non-championship seasons?

Let’s see how things go this week.

Those of you who follow recruiting more closely than I do, what’s your take after last weekend?  Is Smart about to crush it again, or are we about to see a little slippage from the previous two classes?

If it’s the latter, expect the background chatter about Georgia having already peaked a season or two ago to increase.  If it’s the former, then at least we can move on to where Georgia’s offense is going next season.

How discontent-ish are y’all feeling today?

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104 responses to “Will this be the offseason of our discontent?

  1. Biggen

    Recruiting is slipping off a bit. Probably still end up with a top 3 – 5 class so its not terrible at all.

    But some of the “new shine” is wearing off a bit. Getting blown out once a game every year will do that.

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  2. Brandon

    We’ll be fine in recruiting. We’ll end up in the Top 5 and ahead of Florida. We are still in it for lots of big names and are favored for more than a few.

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    • DawgFaithful

      The only place we appear to be slipping maybe, and I said maybe, is OL and that’s because we lost Pittman in the 11th hour. That doesn’t have a damn thing to do with what happened in the SEC championship game. We’ve not had 1 decomitt since then that wasn’t an OL. We’re gonna finish in the top 3 probably. How is that slipping? If you want to buy into that narrative than be my guest but in reality we haven’t slipped at all.

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      • Atticus

        Its all about the QB in today’s world. If you think Mathis and Beck are the answer then I would agree. Fromm is gone. Better find someone who can play immediately. And rankings don’t mean anything when you lose players in a year or two like Cox, Fields, Beal etc….and juniors go pro. Have to keep some juniors.

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        • DawgFaithful

          Your whole post was a bunch of gibberish. Not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing. And rankings absolutely Do matter. You want to stack as many of the best players as you can.

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          • Greg

            He played in the arena, his gibberish matters…

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          • Atticus

            What matters is getting talent at every position. What did we have at WR this year? How did we lose to SC and get blown out by LSU? Neither had the talent we have. But our QB play was way off, play calling sucked and we had no elite WRs. That’s what matters. Yes collect as much talent as possible but if they leave you better be ready. And you can’t miss on all the WRs we did.

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  3. Bright Idea

    Next season’s early home schedule may have a few of the disgruntled thinking long and hard before stroking a check for Hartman Fund and season tickets, but they’ll do it.

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  4. Derek

    Can’t say I follow it religiously, but we’ve got to “kill it” to get close to where we’ve been the last three cycles in class rankings. I think top 3 is out of the question. If we get to 4-5 that would be pretty phenomenal closing and doable.

    Our average recruit ranking is 2nd to only Clemson but our numbers (15 commits) are a down a bit. Always going to be a smallish class tho.

    If they can get Burch, Ringo and Darnell Washington that would be a nice way to finish. Then Kirby needs to find some transfer/juco wr, rb, and te that can plug and play.

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    • spur21

      I look at the average which as you pointed out we are second behind only Clemson. I’ll take that everyday.

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    • Brandon

      We moved up to No. 6 last night just by adding a 3 star lineman, we have 7-8 spots left which is way more than anybody in the top 10. We are in it for multiple very highly rated prospects. If we just bat .300-.400 on the top prospects for whom we are still in contention we will finish no worse than No. 4.

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      • Charlottedawg

        Taking the #876 player in the nation, scares the hell out of me. That’s a big red flag that the coaches do not believe they are going to close strong.

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        • Greg

          Not gonna knock a kid before he even gets on campus because of the number of stars he has…..especially up north where they don’t have has many evaluators and camps. The number of stars are not always right.

          There have been plenty of 3 star players make it big in college football. He looks to have good size & could develop….you just don’t know. The kid may just work hard (“hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work”).

          Obviously Penn State saw something in him….and from the looks of his offer list, so did a lot of others.

          Glad to have him, been plenty of good/great OL come out of New Jersey.

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          • Normaltown Mike

            The other issue is his position. This is the one place we lost a coach and thus, continuity. If we ink a 3 star QB or RB, I’ll be a little more nervous. But we lost an OL and Kirby, to his credit, seems to be committed to bringing in the beef every year (which was one of CMR’s biggest blind spot IMHO). We lost the UF kid so we get a kid that was committed to another top 10 program.

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          • Russ

            I agree. Plus, it’s hard to teach size. Coach ’em up and he’ll be fine.

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        • Jack Klompus

          We were on him early, actually. Before he committed to PSU, it was looking like we may offer. However, I think we were pretty full in the OL room until the guy from Florida flipped when Pittman left.

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    • Argondawg

      If they get Burch, Ringo and Washington and keep what they have committed this class woud rank second in composite. I still this as a top 3 class which is odd when you only have a maximum of 23 spots available. Maybe one less than that. Nobody seems to be 100% what the final total will be. Kirby rectuits his ass off and I am hearing that in January there will be new offensive coaching blood coming in. Get past recruiting and then make a change hear and there. Anybody who thinks Kirby is not addressing our offensive woes from a coaching stand point are smoking something.

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  5. Reverend Whitewall

    For those in the know, how many are we trying to sign this year? I think we only have 15 commits at this point, which, if we sign a smaller class than usual, then naturally the class will be ranked a little lower. I believe all the ones ranked ahead of us have more current commits, some with 8-10 more than us.

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  6. 30904Dawg

    With regard to recruiting, if we get the 4 remaining targets that are overwhelmingly Georgia leans, we would jump to the top of the rankings with 19 commits; less than every team currently ranked ahead of us. We already have the highest average recruit rating in the nation and it would only grown in that most conservative of forecasts.

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  7. Biggus Rickus

    When they close strong and finish with the second or third ranked class maybe people will calm down. I was hoping it would take longer for Georgia fans to get spoiled, but here we are.

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    • Brandon

      It’s embarrassing. I’ve been a Dawg since I was born, which was in the 1970’s and have a degree from there but I’m really starting to hate a lot of our so called fans.

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      • Some of our “fans” are the reason we can’t have nice things. We can’t even celebrate a guy winning an award without taking shots at the team, the coaching staff, or the player himself.

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        • Scorpio Jones, III

          The idea Georgia fans are spoiled is interesting EE. I can see Bammers being spoiled, TOSU fans being spoiled…but Georgia fans? Dont take much to spoil us does it?

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          • I don’t think we’re spoiled. I just think we have a group of vocal fans across the blogs and social media who are unhappy about anything short of their precious natty. As a result, everything they say is nothing but the program sucks.

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            • Bigshot

              The UGA fan base is one of the best in the country. Their support is unparalleled. This support deserves a National Championship. How many times can you go the well and not finding any water. It’s time for the team and coaches to step up and do their part.

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      • Twilb Dawg

        Same. I graduated from UGA in 2001 and have followed the Dawgs from as far back as I can remember. I posted the night of the SECCG that we as a fan base have gotten way to spoiled when a 3rd straight 11-1 reg season and SECCG appearance is a bad year. I told my wife years ago that all I wanted was to be in the conversation near the end of every season and that eventually things would break our way. Kirby has done that, and it does not look like that is going to change anytime soon. My advice to all those grumbling is to enjoy the ride. What this team has accomplished the last three years has only been vested by the HW34 years.

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      • HirsuteDawg

        I’ve maintained that if Georgia can win the SEC and NC game then folks will see what obnoxious really looks like. Dawg fans will make Alabama, Florida and the rest look like pikers.

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  8. stoopnagle

    How discontent-ish am I? Well, for starters, the Boss Lady won’t let me go to NOLA so that’s quite a bit of it right there.

    Here’s what I think: Kirby had a choice in ’18 to re-tool around Fields or stay the course with Fromm. However one feels about it, it was a choice and either choice had merit. Kirby, true to form IMO, stuck with them that brung him to the dance. I don’t know that anyone could fault him for that decision at the time. What he couldn’t know was that at the end of ’18, he’d lose so much from the offensive side of the ball. Now, in hindsight, he looks like he made the wrong choice; but that doesn’t change where we are.

    I think Kirby will once again stand pat on offense. Coley won’t be demoted or move on — maybe a position coach will after ESD or the Sugar Bowl — but my guess (and it’s a total WAG) is that Kirby will consider the lost production, the inexperience at WR and one more year with Fromm* as enough reasons for the lack of progress on offense to give it one more year.

    Yeah, I’m assuming Jake is sticking around. If he goes pro – despite all the haters after this year – I hate to think what the offense would look like. And that’s fully realizing Jake was not nearly as good as he was in ’17/’18.

    Just guesses, for sure, but I can’t see Kirby doing anything radical unless coaches don’t close the deal with recruiting.

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    • DawgByte

      Good post.

      IMO the wheels started to get wobbly in 2018. The Justin Fields debacle was avoidable from a usage and PR perspective. You just don’t come out and say “Justin is on the no plan, plan”. That was shocking coming from a person like Kirby who understands what it means to be a good leader. The net result of that mismanagement was a divided fan base and discontented players. Add to that mess, departures of two coordinators, Holyfield not declaring until after ESD, thus negating the commitment of a Top 5 national RB and then toss in a horrendous performance against Texas to finish out the year.

      In 2019 we have an inexplicable loss to SCe, well documented regression of both our Offense and Jake Fromm and meltdown in the SECCG. We follow that up by losing our most beloved Assistant Coach and recruiter to Arkansas and quickly jettison two commits. Still all is not lost. As has been pointed out we beat Florida for a third straight year and captured the East – again.

      Regarding recruiting, which I’ve followed daily for the past 23+ years, I think we’ll land a Top 5 class. However, earlier in the cycle I was projecting us to be either second only to Clemson or fall slightly behind Bama. The fact is we’ve lost out on a number of top prospects most pundits thought we’d land, including Gilbert, Walker, Evans, Johnson and others. I expect Kirby will spark the fan base up with a late flip surprise and we’ll land in the Top 4 with an outside shot at #3. I also think our class size will be around 23 to 24.

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  9. Junkyardawg41

    I think the consternation in the off season will not be about the quality of recruiting class we sign—- it will be whether or not our Offensive coaches can get out of the players what the players talent indicates they should be able to. We could sign the #1 player at every offensive position and I would still be concerned based on this year’s performance.
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  10. Charlottedawg

    Whenever we need a big finish on signing day that’s usually not a good sign. I know we’ve been spoiled but everything is relative, in this case relative to the other teams in the conference and fifth in the sec would be…..not good.

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  11. MGW

    Florida ranking ahead of Georgia is a mirage. Last I checked before the weekend they had 9 more commits but were only like 2.5 composite points ahead. And Florida , points-wise, is waaaay behind everyone in front of them. As far as average ratings, we’re in that top tier But just haven’t filled out the class; remember Kirby has finished strong every year so far.

    I don’t follow the rest of recruiting so have no idea about targets and who we expect to close with, and we might not crack top 3, but Florida is no concern.

    So far their recruiting is basically Richt’s recruiting with less 5*’s; top ten but like 5th in the conference. They’ll be crushing second tier Big 10/ACC teams in mediocre bowls for the foreseeable future.

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  12. Greg

    For the most part, I think you are right…but I do think he had some control on what he was left with on offense.

    It seems as though there has not been as much of emphasis on recruiting the skill positions. We are thin, thin, thin on numbers & quality (RB, QB, WR).

    But that could be because of the offense we run….or maybe that Smart tries to control some of the play calling, specifically situational. Also could be one of the reasons Chaney left…..or maybe, why we didn’t get Bobo.

    Nonetheless, nice post.

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  13. Debby Balcer

    My thoughts are as discontent as people are now if we had won the natty Kirby’s first year and had this type of year those same complainers would even more insufferable. They remind me of Bama fans.

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  14. Bigshot

    Recruiting is down. Until UGA wins a National Championship it will continue to suffer. Things are not going well.

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    • The Dawg abides

      You’re fucking pathetic. Kick rocks you piece of shit loser.

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      • Bigshot

        So, I suppose you feel the same way about half the other people on this thread? Your lack of intelligence shows by the language you use.

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        • The Dawg abides

          Nope, just you. And it’s not just this thread. It’s every post you make. You bring absolutely nothing to the board except negative, doom and gloom shots at the program, and I’m far from a Disney Dawg. And you couldn’t be more wrong here. Recruiting is at historic levels, despite not not winning a title in nearly 40 years. We’re going to get a good early haul, then finish strong in February at number 3-4. Kirby has given me things to question, but recruiting isn’t one of them. One more thing, you need to change your moniker to Potshot.

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          • Bigshot

            You obviously read what you want to read. I was just defending Fromm the other day. If I am that much in your head, you might want to rethink your priorities. Go Dawgs!

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  15. gotcowdog

    I’m not too discontent-ey. The SC loss stung, but I called it as well as 90% of the rest of the commentariat: UGA gave the good teams it was going to face tons of tape while bonking around with the cupcakes, and most everybody had an extra week to prepare. Unfortunately the offense WAS what it looked like early in the season, annnnd… the loss of production at receiver turned out to be a real big deal, didn’t it?
    Unless Kirby, Luke, and Coley come up with the solution to offensive production Bama, Florida, and Auburn look scary. Bobo and Boom will be looking to prove something, too. Could be an 8-4 year, TBH. We’ll see…..

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    • gotcowdog

      Not the loss. I did not call the loss.
      I said UGA was giving the opponents too much to look at …
      Ah, screw it. Y’all know what I meant. Need coffee.

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  16. Uglydawg

    UGA is at a crucial point in where the program is heading.
    The style in which Georgia won some of those games isn’t winning any fashion shows, and offensive skill positions recruits were watching.
    Or they will be after visits from other coaches.
    You know Mullens and Pruitt are telling kids that CKS can’t get it done, he’s had top classes and squandered their talent (mind you, I’m just telling you what I think is being said) and that you’d better get used to blocking and running into brick walls because that’s what you’ll do playing manball at UGA”
    And there’s video to back up their arguments.
    I’m expecting at least half a step back in recruiting this time. Maybe worse, because UF and UT will be loading up their wagons.
    What Georgia does against Baylor is going to matter.
    This is a perception game. And we all saw the false perception that Mullens is a great, great game coach presented in the media. The perception that Tennessee is on the rise because they finished strong and are going to a bowl game is also out there. Right or wrong. When perceptions take root they eventually become reality because they make or break marketing.
    Yes, the Sugar will play into the perception of where Georgia is headed. If it’s another shit show, and esp if it develops into another severe beating, it will diminish the perception that Kirby will someday soon deliver the big Kuhana.
    Beat Baylor convincingly and it will be a great shot in the arm going into 2020. Here’s hoping the offensive hiccups are gone.

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  17. ASEF

    For me, it’s the disconnect between recruiting and results on one side of the ball.

    Winning Signing Day creates expectations, and loading up with 5 star linemen, receivers and backs creates expectations.

    People expected way more from the offense. They spent all season grumbling about it but largely waiting to see how it all panned out. And then it bombed at the finale.

    That’s a recipe for looooong offseason, no matter how many 5 star TEs ink a LOI.

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  18. DawgFaithful

    We’re fine. We only have 14 commits at this point. All those teams ahead of us are done or almost done. We’ve got 9 more spots to fill. Look at the average ranking per recruit. We’re the highest in the nation. We only have 14 right now but they’re quality. We had a huge weekend with tons of 4 and 5 stars on campus. We have a great shot to flip Burton from LSU after his secret visit this weekend. He’s a BIG time WR. Arian Smith appears to be a Dawg. We got Burch in town too. That was huge. We’ve got a great shot to land him. The Offensive line haul this cycle could be trouble with Pittman leaving but that is expected. That’s why we took the big project kid from Paramus this weekend. It’s hard to replicate what Pittman does but Matt Luke will do well going forward I think. It’ll be much clearer on Wednesday.

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  19. Russ

    The potential is still there for a top 3 class. We have lots of room remaining for signing, compared to the others. A key flip or get will push us up the list for sure.

    I’m more interested in what happens after bowls and recruiting. If coaches change or assignments change, then I’ll know Kirby is intent on fixing the offense. Of course, I’m sure he’ll tell us that nothing has changed even if he hired Hal Mumme as OC.

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  20. CB

    Kirby is still heavily favored to sign a few more 5 stars and he got some huge names on campus this past weekend for their last visit before signing day. It’s a little frustrating that we’ve let some really good in state kids slip away to Auburn while we reach for slightly higher ranked out of state kids, but when it comes to recruiting I trust Kirby until he gives me a real reason not to.

    That’s also the same way I feel about Smart, Fromm and the offense, but I’ll be real skeptical if we don’t make any changes at OC after NSD.

    As far as winning the SEC East and beating Auburn, Florida, Tennessee and Tech. Fair or not those things are now expected. Winning the SEC East 10 years in a row will not appease Georgia fans if you’re not pushing through and winning it all.

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  21. Scorpio Jones, III

    “Will this be the offseason of our discontent?” Is that a question?

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  22. Hogbody Spradlin

    First world problems.

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  23. Scorpio Jones, III

    You wanted Richt gone, he’s gone. You wanted Kirby, he’s here. Live with it.

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  24. Mike Glennon

    Discontent isn’t the word I would use for me. Anxious maybe. Having three 11 win seasons in a row does not suck. And with all of the troubles the offense had, they still averaged 31 pts/game. However, we all saw what we saw. The offense clearly struggled for much/most of the season. I don’t necessarily think this is a Kirby manball issue, though. in 2018 we averaged 38 pts/game which was 2nd best of the past 10 years, only outdone by 2014 (41 pts/game). 2017 was also strong at 35 pts/game. I think Kirby’s version of offense can be dynamic and put up lots of points.

    This brings me to something I’ve been trying to put my finger on and I’m not sure I have it right yet, but I’m getting close. A lot of the problems this year (and the Senator has been pointing some of these things out) have had to do with execution. One person not doing their job and it leading to the play blowing up. Receivers missing a block, or seems more often, running a route just a little off so the connection isn’t there with Fromm. Play calling has certainly been an issue at times, but even when it seems Coley calls a good, creative game we still end up in the same place. That leads me more to execution than design.

    We have great players on the team and the depth has never been better. Those great athletes allowed us to struggle (somewhat) and still pull out 11 wins. I’m wondering if in the staff turnover we have shifted too much to recruiting prowess vs coaching ability? Are we bringing them in but not coaching them up? I don’t know the answer to that.

    From my perspective Kirby is a guy that leaves no stone unturned and also takes a methodical approach to how he evaluates the program. I believe Kirby believes in “balance” more than anything else on an offense, but can be flexible in how he gets there (I judge this on the past 4 years, not just this year). I have no doubt Kirby will try to get to the bottom of the offense’s issues. His answer may not be the same as many of us, but I won’t wonder if he absolutely worked it to death.

    Overall, my perspective is that we’re nationally relevant. We’ve made it to the SECCG each of the past three years, which means you win and you’re in. That’s what I was looking for when they hired Kirby. This year may not have been the most aesthetically pleasing, but I enjoy great defense as much as the next guy. Count me in the contented group, not discontented.

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  25. Will (the other one)

    I’m really hoping the offense gets some new blood, even if it’s just a former OC coming in as an analyst. I think my pessimism is stronger after the SECCG because not only did the Dawgs lose by a lot, but it was a team that did in the off-season what I’d wished Kirby would have done when Chaney left: LSU realized they weren’t getting enough from their passing game and took steps to change it, and then followed up on those steps. And while Burrow was the most obvious beneficiary, all the top players on that offense had better seasons than the preseason projections and improved their draft stock. CEH went from the guy likely to ride the bench behind 5-star freshman Emery (former UGA commit) to rushing for 1,200 and catching a ton of passes. Chase and Jefferson went from “good WRs who likely go pro and make people ask ‘why did LSU waste them?'” to great WRs.
    Meanwhile, I can’t think of any skill players on UGA’s offense that improved from the year before (discounting freshmen), and the QB position struggles have been well-noted already.

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      • Chi-town Dawg

        Well said Will and I also agree with Mike Glennon’s points. We got destroyed by LSU, but we missed SO many chances due to poor execution rather than poor play calling in that game. Tyler Simmons and Matt Landers key drops, Jake Fromm over/under throwing open guys a half a dozen times throughout the game and even Specs missing 2 FGs are signs of poor execution. Other games, poor play calling was certainly was a key factor along with missed blocks.

        We’re likely going to have to replace our top 2 RBs, 1-3 starting OL plus top 2 TEs. I’m also not so sure Pickens is smart enough to stay in school, which means we may lose him, Cager and Blaylock at WR. I’d be surprised if the Offense makes significant strides next year even if Fromm gets his groove back. The sky isn’t falling, but not sure we’ll have another 11-1 regular season either.

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  26. beemer60

    I’m pretty discontented but not due to recruiting. Georgia outranked LSU in recruiting 3 out of the last 4 years so while it is very important, recruiting will only get you so far. My discontent comes from watching them regress this year and not feeling like Kirby realizes something needs to change. It’s very possible that he decides this year was a fluke, they just need to stay the course, and we are having the same conversations next year after another lost season. I sure hope I’m wrong.

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  27. Ray Avret

    I know we have no Offense , I said it from game 1 while other fans were praising our great new system…… an end around 5 times a game a few screen and a few passes to the short flat do not make an offensive system even if you do have enough superior talent to score a few points against weaker teams
    The Defense I am not sure on, The stats were good but then you look at the stats of the QBs and how many first year players were running the offenses compare that to how we looked against a good QB with experience at LSU . I am just not sure ‘
    I do know offensive play makers and offensive player development is lagging even the vaunted offensive line full of 5 stars 6 or 7 players deep couldn’t even get 1-2 yards time after time when needed
    Is it Smoke and Mirrors that allowed us to have such a great record?
    In my mind the jury is out. Kirby has some work to do on offense however he is paid well and has had an open checkbook for assistants and has supreme facilities even a helicopter available at his whim ……. He is here to win Championships starting next seasons its all his players no more offensive players that learned under CMR
    The next Two years should answer questions CKS and if he is a real coach or not. He has no lack of talent and should win 8-10 games a season based on talent alone. If he is going to be a great coach he will get 10-14 wins if he is good he will get the 10 a year CMR was able to get any less and he should be replaced

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  28. Gurkha Dawg

    Does anyone know which 3rd year players we will probably lose? I’ve heard Swift and Thomas are gone, but no one else.

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    • Chi-town Dawg

      My guess is those 2 plus 50/50 on Isaiah Wilson and LeCounte. Outside chance on Fromm, Ben Cleveland and Monty Rice, but doubtful in my opinion for each of them.

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      • Bigshot

        My question is why wouldn’t Fromm go? He most likely will be a 3rd round, early 4th round choice. He has been crucified by the fan base this year. More than likely Tua will stay, so you will have him and Fields going out next year. Suppose he does no better next year, or worst? I say he is gone.

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        • The other Doug

          I think he’s likely to go if he’s a 3rd or 4th rounder, but that high of a pick is a stretch for him. He isn’t mobile and doesn’t have a very strong arm, so he needs to be a great decision maker and very accurate to make it in the NFL. He didn’t do those two things this year and it most likely tanked his draft stock.

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        • Chi-town Dawg

          No way Fromm is a 3rd or 4th round pick this year. Questions about his arm strength and accuracy and his mechanics were terrible ast half of the season. Also, I think Tua turns pro rather than risking another injury

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        • Atticus

          Ask his Dad. He’s gone.

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    • Chi-town Dawg

      Also, forgot about Kindley at OG. I think he likely leaves.

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  29. We want to be explosive. We want to score points. I think in college football nowadays you’ve gotta be able to score points. You look at the best teams in the country they can do that. So we’ve got to be able to score points, and whatever it takes to do that, whether it’s wearing people down, or throwing the ball, we’ve got to be flexible enough to do it.
    -Kirby Smart, Aug 27, 2019

    Team scoring drops by 7 pts per game and averages 10 ppg fewer in conference games compared to previous season.

    Never doubt Jake Fromm.
    -Kirby Smart, Nov 2, 2019

    Jake’s next five games:
    71/151 (47%) for 925 (185 ypg), 11 TD/2 INT, 119.87 passer rating, which would rank him 10th in the SEC.

    I only bring these up because I wanted to believe what Kirby was selling. The reality was much different. That’s on me, though. I get it. I’ll believe in the next great UGA offensive revolution when I see it.

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  30. Paul

    We’ve been to the SEC Championship three years in a row. That’s a fantastic accomplishment for any team. On our first trip we won, posted a historic win in the Rose Bowl but lost the National Championship in the fourth quarter. The following year we lost the SEC Championship late in the game. This year, we didn’t really show up for the SEC game at all. So, despite three consecutive trips to Atlanta we’re not exactly improving upon our performance each time. This despite all the recruiting prowess and the fact that these are Kirby’s guys who’ve been picked and coached by Kirby. This season in particular, our offense got worse with each game. Sure, we lost a lot of guys last year and we had injuries to boot. But our group of highly talented but young receivers still looked like a bunch of highly talented but young receivers the last game of the season. So, angsty? Perhaps even discontent? It’s not really hard to see why. Butts Mehre backed up the Brinks truck, gave Kirby everything he asked for and proclaimed that’s he’s the guy who will take us to the promised land. Hopefully he is. But it’s hard to see this season as anything other than a step backward. That doesn’t mean things won’t get better next year. Truth is, the reason why Nick Saban gets so much attention is the fact that what he’s accomplished at Alabama is so rare. Is it unreasonable for us to expect so much from Kirby and company. Of course it is. But we have nine more months until next season starts and we have to talk about something.

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  31. W Cobb Dawg

    Anyone taking a look at our recruiting should be impressed. We’ve got 15 verbals and 6 or more slots to fill. A batch of 5-star and 4-star studs are vying to fill those slots. And Kirby is arguably the best closer in cfb. We’ve got a legit shot at the #1 class… again. We are a lock for the top 3 IMHO.

    And don’t forget how effective Kirby is filling needs through the portal. We’ve got problems, but roster management ain’t one of them.

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  32. 86BONE

    Our discontent seems to be “are we ever getting over the hump”…not just one thing in particular. Kirby always closes strong and has exciting “flip candidates” to whet our appetite. Coaching and recruiting need to always be pushing the envelope and trying to stay fresh and focused.
    My wife and I will not be attending the Sugar and there is very little to NO excitement left for the remaining bowl schedule. It’s a case of the “give a damn” being broken.
    I hold two Varsity Letters and a business degree from UGA. I bleed red and black, without question, and have supported my university thru thick and thin. It’s just time for our football program to win a National Championship…that’s all I got…get me outa here Percy!

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  33. Athens Dog

    Good God……calm down.

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  34. MGW

    Sure would be fun for Kirby to announce some kind of big Brady-ish passing game coordinator or whatever hire on the eve of signing day. Just sayin.

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  35. Bulldog Joe

    Opportunity to compete for immediate playing time on offense at Georgia is as strong as I’ve seen in a long time. This goes for transfers, too.

    Read this any way you wish.

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  36. WNCDawg

    Something just doesn’t sit right. We had issues scoring 30 points a game. Every game except the cupcakes and Fech, en though they were wins became almost predictable.
    I think there were divisions among the team. I’ll leave that up to your reasoning. ( Fields, Why Hollifield, dad even said it was a mistake for him to leave, Nauta, Ridley thinks older brother had some say in that decision) Were these logical reasons or just the fact there was not much fun in the locker room ?
    Lockdown press conferences of Coordinator’s, field coaches and select player interviews may be common place. I personally got tired of the scripted CKS’s we’ve got to get better week after week.
    I have no issues with CKS and he’s a great recruiter. It’s just that the inner half of what goes on with CKS and B/M building is tighter than the FBI. Through the process of the season and the injuries and Fromm’s setbacks the Dawgs aren’t in a great place. What is 68%of the team is returning ? It wasn’t like the Dawgs mauled their way to the top of the SEC East. Talent wise what games showed up that the Dawgs were rich in talent over the East opponents. Vandy, Missouri and Tennessee.
    We all laughed at the scaled Mullen’s and their dumpster fire early on. Then we watched their 2nd. string QB make a game of it in Jacksonville. Thank goodness for the defense because if we’re not for their outstanding play there would not have been a SEC East which most of ya’ll almost admire as a SEC Championship.
    I regress yet about letting so many in state players play against us while jetting across the country. Cedartown is closer than Texas and Canada. I am not a fan of web recruiting site or the all star games shitshows that is nothing but a show out platform.
    Let me just say that I uncomfortable with this past seasons direction and with the Sugar Bowl not on till 9:45 the Dawgs better have some answers to CKS’s we need to get better, we need to be more explosive. Reason one is it appears Bama and LSU did and everyone else is catching up. Now it’s your dime going to the B/M building. You going to donate more $$$$ for those points when next years schedule is a travesty except for going to Bama. The drama that unfolded this year in the SECCG might rear its ugly head much earlier in 2020

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  37. FlyingPeakDawg

    Tell me there is a Heisman type candidate in the mix and I’ll feel better. I just don’t see that one shining star on offense who can take over a game.

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  38. 123fakest

    If we don’t sign 2 qbs and 5 WR, I will have discontent.

    I think tickets to NOLA being $50 is a major red flag, though.

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  39. Grandy Peace

    We’re about to crush it again, pretty much.

    Emerson doesn’t dive into it but our “8th” granked class (or whatever, I can’t keep up between the different services and composite and get mixed up where we are in each all the time) actually has a higher per player average than everyone outside of Clemson (how much higher depends on which ranking you look at). Also, we’re sitting on 15 commits which is way lower than almost everyone else (Oklahoma has 19, and Texas 17, and there’s someone sitting on 20 IIRC).

    Granted, it requires closing on some guys but I see no reason not to be hopeful.

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  40. duronimo

    About the latest 3-star OL. To those who may have an answer to this …
    Doesn’t the spread, attack the defense all over the field via zone blocking schemes? And for the ground game, doesn’t that require lighter, quicker lineman who can run to the edges play after play. So, does stocking up on more heavy hogs (size & strength to block in the box) mean we’re sticking with manball?

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  41. I’m not cranky at all. Been going to games since I was 6 so I’m used to all of this. I am concerned, though, but mainly over recruiting. Recruiting is everything and we seem to be taking a dip this year and possibly and even bigger one next year. Certainly if the offense doesn’t improve next year.

    Like it or not, there are similar trends in both on-field results and recruiting when comparing Smart and Richt. Richt failed to seize early momentum and it would only take a season or two for Smart to do the same. It won’t affect my fandom but struggle offensively and miss the playoffs again next year while Tennessee and Florida continue to get a little better. Continue to allow Clemson to be the Tennessee of the 90s in our state recruiting wise.

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  42. 69Dawg

    Well now I’m even more discontented. I still think that Hankston is only coaching because he is a good recruiter. He sure can’t coach WR’s. Poor route running is one thing but the drops during the rare times Fromm actually managed to get the ball to them was inexcusable. Jake has developed the yelps. He is by far the slowest QB with his reads. There are no fast zip passes like 90% of college teams use. Ours is a pro passing attack circa 2000. Jake has too many reads and once he is by them he never looks back.

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  43. Greg

    He played in the arena, you didn’t…..his gibberish matters.

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  44. Sue scher

    It’s not bad recruiting. The problem is that these great recruits do not perform as expected. That’s got to be poor coaching, poor play calling and or poor plays. The Dawgs just don’t seem to play as if they want to be the best that they can be

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  45. NewportBeachDawg

    Unfortunately our best shot at winning a Natty in 40 years has gone. We got gifted our way in the playoffs by a hurt Auburn team in 2017/2018. They were the better team when healthy. We owned Oklahoma but choked against Bama. I’ll never forgive the Kang for that. Things are going south DDG.

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