Shot.
Chaser.
You know, it’s not like they even had a dog in the hunt — LSU was already in the finals. This was just incompetent fuckery for the sheer sake of it. Well played, fellas.
Shot.
Was the #Clemson receiver supposed to do a dance or something here? How did this get overturned from a catch and fumble to incomplete? #CFBPlayoff #OhioStateBuckeyes pic.twitter.com/MPjIg2Itmv
— Billy Heyen (@BillyHeyen) December 29, 2019
Chaser.
— Matty Ice (@VanGogh_0) December 29, 2019
You know, it’s not like they even had a dog in the hunt — LSU was already in the finals. This was just incompetent fuckery for the sheer sake of it. Well played, fellas.
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“... Shoot, why does anybody who’s ever won something do it again? Because it’s cool. So, let’s go do it again. Let’s see if we’ve got what it takes.” -- Stetson Bennett, The Athletic, 3/22/22
A little karma for how the B1G officials jobbed Georgia 2 years ago?
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Payback for Delaney sending his absolute worst crew and worst ref, Dan Capron (who was actually fired at one point for being terrible) to ref in our National Title Game because his team got shut out of the playoffs in favor of Alabama in 2017. Fuck the Big Ten and fuck tOSU; it wasn’t a catch. 😂🤣😂
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I was stunned that it was overturned but the broadcast rules expert said it would be too and he was right. Looked to me like the guy took about 4 steps with the ball but what do I know
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If you watch it in real time it’s not half a second. It wasn’t a catch.
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Gotta make a football move. Don’t know why that’s so hard to understand for the tOSU whiners. 🤷🏻♂️
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but….
He catches and controls it.
He starts to bring the ball down into the bread basket
He realizes Okudah’s arm/hand is in the bread basket.
He lifts the ball up to keep it away from Okudah
He moves it down and to the side to keep it away from Okudah.
and then he loses it.
All while taking 4 steps.
I’m blown away they OVERTURNED it.
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That was my takeaway, too. The rules analyst even made the point that slowing it down made it look more like a catch than it actually was. If you change the circumstances, say he made the same catch in the end zone with the defender raking the ball out, and it was ruled a catch, OSU fans would be pitching a fit in reverse.
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Agreed. In real time it didn’t even look close and I was amazed they called it a fumble on the field. When you slow it down a ton of course it looks like a catch.
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I don’t want to hear it! OSU lost and that just fine and dandy with me.
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Ref on TV said it shouldn’t be judged in slow motion and that there was no “football move.” I thought it was a catch but I’m an expert only at being wrong.
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If you look at it in real time, thought the receiver did not hold it long enough for a reception. But I did feel that they really got screwed on an interference no- call. The refs were standing right there, not sure how they miss it.
Nonetheless, good game…..hate both teams, just my degree of hate is more for OSU.
I guess now, LSU can embarrass Clemson rather than OSU.
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Except Clemson might embarrass LSU instead. Just sayin.’
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No way Clemson stays within 14
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Don’t forget God is in Dabo’s side.
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Looks a lot like a catch.
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Could not happen to a more deserving team and their lead ESPN announcer/cheer leader in the booth. Karma for the win Herbie.
My view clearly no way should that have been overturned no matter which way the call on the field went.
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Herbie doesn’t care … his sons are walk-ons at Clempson.
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Scuba’s right. Under their “rules” (which they seen to follow only selectively) there has to be “irrifuteable evidence” that the call was wrong. Close calls just stay with the call on the field. This was a close call so…..
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The guy took three steps, maybe four, with the ball secured. I never saw it bobble at all. There was no “indisputable evidence” of an incompletion. The call on the field should have been upheld.
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No, apparentally he failed to do the second reverse of REVERSE REVERSE in the cha cha slide before officially calling it a football dance move.
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Not sure what they consider “long enough” anymore. There use to be a 3 second rule, not sure if that still exists.
But yeah, he did hang on with 3 steps, but I am pretty sure 3 seconds didn’t expire…if that indeed is still a rule….. and don’t think you can really apply it.
Especially when you consider how fast some of these receivers cover 100 yards. It looked to me that he held it for about 2 to 2.5 seconds.
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Got the call right on the field. Replay provides substantial evidence they got the call right and nothing really to overturn it.
So they overturn it.
The Oklahoma game was a complete snoozer, so it didn’t matter, but did anyone see the Stingley takedown of Haselwood? About as obvious a PInas you will ever see, in the open field, with a ball hanging in the air for 4 seconds and headed that way. Had to be at least 4 officials looking straight at it. ACC refs.
These are supposed to be the game’s best and brightest. And we laugh at it until it’s our team getting hosed by their sheer ineptitude.
No wonder conferences offices think we will put up with anything.
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At what point did the ref not see the ball in full possession? Refs claim the ball was moving and not in full possession – what fucking movement?
Btw, OSU showed the D that got them there while everyone only saw their Offense. They were beaten by Clemson’s QB.
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Couldn’t believe the header when I saw it, that was one of the best called games by an SEC crew I have seen in years. This is the only “split decision” calls that I remember from the game (without watching the replay, which I won’t). I can see how the jury is split on this one, I saw both sides myself; incomplete in real time, and a catch/fumble in slow mo. I am OK with that being the only controversy as you can make a case for both sides. I don’t count offensive holding or pas interference arguments because no one knows what they mean any more, or when they will get called. Really needs to be cleaned up but the issues exist at both the collegiate and professional levels. Just no consistency and everyone complains during, and after, each and every game with plenty of video evidence to support their case.
Neither side has any legit complaint, imo regarding the officiating. I thought the game had an odd flow, and feel it is another case where the best team probably lost. But I don’t care, I would be rooting for LSU against either one in the finals. I hope the officiating is as good in Nawlins, this was a well called game, and I have been a consistent critic of SEC officiating.
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Like many here, I thought it was an incomplete pass as I watched it, and was surprised that it was ruled a catch/fumble/recovery for a TD. But when they reviewed it, I thought, “holy shit, good call, ref”. Then they reversed it? It could reasonably have gone either way in the first place, but I don’t see ‘irrefutable evidence’ that the first call was wrong.
It’s like Macallanlover said: as SEC officiating goes, this was pretty damn good on balance. Only one or two major fuck ups puts this game in the top 1%.
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How about the play where the OS receiver was first called out of bounds. That was changed when the replay showed his hand touching the turf just before his foot landed out. Question: Why doesn’t that apply to running backs who constantly put their hand “down” during a run and he’s not considered down?
Also when a player dives over the end-zone pylon with the ball and then loses control when landing out of bounds, it’s a touchdown. It broke the plane and it doesn’t matter what happened after that. But a receiver can catch a ball, loose it when he hits the ground and it’s not a touchdown even though #1 the ground can’t cause a fumble & #2 it did break the plane.
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Being “down” isnt the same thing as defining a “catch.” You have to have something hit in bounds to be a catch. Had he caught the ball in the middle of the field and the only thing that hit was his hand, he could have kept going.
The ground causing a fumble AFTER possession is different than the ground causing an incompletion BEFORE possession.
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Your hand isn’t down and neither are your feet. Your hand or feet would touching inbounds define you as in. You don’t have to go down inbounds for a catch to count. Just touch any part of your body in bounds first.
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I thought it was a catch and fumble and there was no clear evidence to overturn.
Did anyone else have a hangup on the targeting call? Looked like a hard hit to me, but nothing dirty.
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I don’t think it was dirty but he launched. Leaving the ground and aiming with the helmet as he did is considered targeting.
Looked like football to me.
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The helmet to helmet may or may not have risen to the level of targeting, but when combined with the second tackler also going to the head/neck, the outcome could have been a worse for OS.
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