December 30, 2019 · 6:36 AM

Man, oh, man (coverage)

Interesting observations from Bill Connelly:

I’d love to see a breakdown of those numbers for defenses facing Fromm, especially from the South Carolina game through the rest of the season.

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21 responses to “Man, oh, man (coverage)”

  1. Mayor
    December 30, 2019 at 7:33 AM

    Not just Fromm. I’d like to see the stats about this for the Georgia receivers, too. Other than Pickens and Cagle it appeared none of them could get open when the opposing D was in man. That is where the problem really is.

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  2. lakedawg
    December 30, 2019 at 8:08 AM

    Just curious who this Cagle guy is?

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  3. gatriguy
    December 30, 2019 at 8:28 AM

    You beat man by hitting receivers in stride vs them sitting down in zone. You can’t hit receivers in stride on back shoulder sideline passes.

    None of this is that complicated. For whatever reason, be it Jake or Kirby, we refuse to throw over the middle and try to hit guys in stride. It’s maddening.

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    • Illini84
      December 30, 2019 at 8:33 AM

      Yea, people here know SO much more about it than these dumb, lying, excitable coaches.

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      • spur21
        December 30, 2019 at 8:41 AM

        Well what is your explanation for zero improvement in the WR group after 12 games? It’s not like we are the only team in America with young receivers. And least we forget there is green grass between the hash marks. Not trying to be snarky just curious.

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      • Tony Barnfart
        December 30, 2019 at 11:16 AM

        Do you go into the break room at work and tell people to shut up around the water cooler ? You’re basically telling fans that Georgia football is not here for their amusement. I sure hope the coaches don’t think that way, or the spigot of all those big salaries is gonna shut off pretty quick.

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    • TN Dawg
      December 30, 2019 at 8:44 AM

      You can’t hit a receiver in stride when you are an inaccurate passer with an average at best arm.

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      • eethomaswfnc
        December 30, 2019 at 9:19 AM

        Good grief … the guy still completed over 60% of his passes for the year with the issues over the 2nd half of the season. How does a guy go from averaging over 9 yards per attempt to about 7 1/2? His arm must have lost strength during the last 365 days.

        We know you just think Jake Fromm sucks. You’ve made that clear since the beginning of the year.

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        • TN Dawg
          December 30, 2019 at 9:23 AM

          I don’t think he sucks.

          I think he is limited.

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          • eethomaswfnc
            December 30, 2019 at 9:32 AM

            He was completing close to 80% of his passes (averaging 5 incompletions per game) up to the South Carolina game. That’s not being inaccurate.

            He was averaging over 9 yards per attempt coming into this season and was around that number before the South Carolina game. You don’t generate those kind of numbers if you are inaccurate with an average at best arm.

            You’re calling him Joe Cox or Greyson Lambert with nothing to back that up. I tend to agree with the Senator that Jake didn’t forget how to play QB after the Tennessee game.

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    • eethomaswfnc
      December 30, 2019 at 8:52 AM

      A couple of thoughts I’ve had throughout the season:

      1) The slant seems to have disappeared from our passing game. There’s a reason Chauncey-Gardner said what he did a couple of years ago about Fromm. We have attacked the deep middle third with mixed success (#8’s TD in the Auburn game, D-Rob’s long TD called back in the Vandy game, #87’s drop in the LSU game). The short and intermediate passing game in the middle has been missing.

      2) I certainly haven’t looked at all of the game tape, but the slot receiver position has not had the production we’ve seen in the past (or at least that’s what my eyes tell me). Dom Blaylock seemed to help, but, of course, he’s hurt now.

      3) For whatever reason (recruiting Arik Gilbert or Washington, no better alternative), we were splitting out Woerner or Wolf in 4 and 5-wide formations. That personnel grouping doesn’t encourage the defense to get a linebacker off the field making the box more conducive to running.

      4) When you watch LSU, they are a matchup nightmare for safeties, linebackers and nickel/dime corners. We clearly don’t have the guys in the slot or at tight end right now that demand that kind of respect.

      Thoughts?

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      • gatriguy
        December 30, 2019 at 8:58 AM

        All that is probably true, but I think there’s a simpler explanation: Jake is extremely risk adverse and cautious to not turn the ball over. His definition of “open” worked in the past with Holloman, Ridley, Mecole, and Godwin. Not so much this year.

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        • eethomaswfnc
          December 30, 2019 at 9:13 AM

          Is he risk averse because of himself or his coaches? Kirby has consistently said ball security is job 1 for the QB. You don’t throw for the numbers Fromm did in high school being afraid to sling it. I tend to believe the issue is he is told live to fight another day if the play isn’t there. A punt is better than an interception.

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          • spur21
            December 30, 2019 at 10:02 AM

            So apparently it’s a coaching issue. I hope Jake plays another year but if he is not sold on the offense as it is run now I can see him leaving.

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      • The other Doug
        December 30, 2019 at 9:15 AM

        I think we do have the guys to create a match up nightmare for DBs. We have Robertson, Pickens, and Blaylock at WR, Swift and Cook are RBs that can run routes, and Woerner/Wolf are solid TEs. To create those mismatches we need to go no huddle and move them around. Robertson, Swift, Cook, and Woerner have been in the program long enough to be able to play different positions. Blaylock and Pickens probably not, but they can play the WR in every formation.

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        • eethomaswfnc
          December 30, 2019 at 9:23 AM

          We don’t huddle now … we don’t go hurry-up for whatever reason which I guarantee you isn’t Jake’s decision. When you substitute as much as we do, you can’t go hurry-up.

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        • eethomaswfnc
          December 30, 2019 at 11:29 AM

          The tight ends aren’t the Moss kid (or even Orson Charles). They aren’t a mismatch waiting to happen with a LB or a safety. Splitting them out in a spread look is a waste of space.

          Pickens and Blaylock didn’t play as much as their talents warranted. Is that because of their blocking?

          The passing game struggled when Lawrence Cager wasn’t on the field. Is that because he was the only player Jake trusted or because he forced teams to rotate coverage toward him?

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  4. CEPH
    December 30, 2019 at 10:00 AM

    To start with you don’t have to have a gun for an arm to hit a slant. Did you guys watch how many slants Burrow threw against OU and has thrown this year? It seems to be his his bread and butter and go to pass.

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  5. duronimo
    December 30, 2019 at 1:00 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with Fromm other than being neutered by the slowest offense in football. Our OC never gets him into rhythm and manball confines the game to only parts of the field. Agree with CEPH, throwing quick slants, and using the tight ends as receivers would help. This is why NFL scouts are not holding this season against Jake.

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