Moar Monkening

Via UGASports’ Film Don’t Lie, I’ve got a couple of clips and commentary to share.

First, you may have seen this the other day, but there’s something about it that bears repeating.

The Cowboys use the motion man to distract.

Here’s what Dayne Young says about it:

Expect to see an active backfield pre-snap from the Bulldogs. Motion men can dictate the momentum defenders have when the ball is snapped. Here, the motioned receiver goes one way while a running back screen develops the other way. If Georgia’s offensive line plays a bit smaller and promotes agility, this kind of action is possible.  [Emphasis added.]

It’s a well designed play that gets the back in space, but it gets stuffed because the lineman isn’t quick enough to block the defender, who winds up getting a clean shot at the receiver to blow up the play.  Does Georgia have the offensive linemen to make that play go?

Brent Collins’ comment about the clip is a little surprising.

While we don’t have the data for the Oklahoma State or Southern Miss years on the amount of shift/motioning, Monken’s offenses in Tampa Bay used shifts or motion on 35 to 38 percent of plays, below the NFL average and nowhere near the 79 percent that topped the league with Kyle Shanahan’s Super Bowl-bound offense in San Francisco. In 2019, Georgia’s offense used a shift/motion component on 50.5 percent of its snaps.

Coley ran more motion last season than Monken did the last time he called plays?  Interesting.

And here’s the second clip and commentary:

Oklahoma State sets a running lane.

Dayne: The most successful running plays under Monken’s offense are very decisive. The runner spends very little time maneuvering laterally. It’s all getting to the hole faster than it can be stuffed.

Brent: The essence and birth of the spread offense was actually designed (by Rich Rodriquez at Glenville State University, before he went to Tulane) to help the running game. At PFF, we have shown that field location (between the 20s) and number of defenders in the box predict rushing success more so than the ability of the running back. In 2019, Georgia was in the top half of the FBS (44th) in terms of number of rushing plays with at least eight defenders in the box.

Hell, I’m surprised that last stat he cites isn’t even higher.  But I digress.  The big deal here is that for Monken’s running philosophy to succeed, it’s going to take a lot of scheming to convince teams to defend Georgia’s offense in a very different manner than they’ve been accustomed to doing in the past couple of seasons.  Is Georgia really going to do something to scheme defenders out of the box?

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36 responses to “Moar Monkening

  1. practicaldawg

    Zeus seems tailor made for that type of north/south attack. If defenders are on their heels when he hits the hole, watch out.

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    • Greg

      agree, you can see that his confidence is growing. Can’t wait to see him next season, thinks he will be even better.

      The opposing ‘D better bring their lunch when he is in the game…he will.

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  2. Greg

    “If Georgia’s offensive line plays a bit smaller and promotes agility, this kind of action is possible.”

    Going to be interesting to see how we transition (“manball ” versus rpo/spread).

    Scheme is great, it allows players to make plays…but it doesn’t mean shat if we do not have the players to execute it.

    For that reason, I don’t think we will not see a big transition on offense, Thinks we still run out of the pro set and blend some rpo’s/spread in.

    The men’s BB team was painful enough to watch the other night (rebuild/phioosphy), hope we do not see the same from the football team….and I don’t think we will.

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    • FWIW, manball isn’t a scheme, but an attitude or approach. I’ve watched a fair amount of TAMU 2011 tape lately and seen several games where opposing defenses are totally gassed in the fourth quarter. I think Kirby would take that, happily.

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      • Greg R. Bowen

        I know….guess you can say it is a philosophy, an identity. It all works together, got to have all 11 on the same page before it can work.

        Point is, before we go full up tempo/rpo/spread. We will need the linemen to do it…and we may already have, but I don’t see it just yet.

        This is why I think we will see some tweaking, suttle changes, not a complete overhaul this year.

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      • practicaldawg

        Manball is a Platonic form, I believe.

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  3. MDDawg

    I’d be curious how much of the motion we used was designed to get a defense off-balance versus how much was just meant to identify what type of coverage they were running. The images that come to mind are all of those times we lined up in 5-wide just to have swift or whoever move back to the RB position next to Fromm. Does that really count as using motion in the same sense as what’s described above?

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    • The other Doug

      I agree. Most of UGA’s motioning was to confirm coverage. Nothing wrong with that, but I think Monken will use it to create mismatches and defenses moving at the snap. That type of motion has to be drilled and drilled or there are a lot of penalties.

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  4. Bright Idea

    To improve the running game the backside defenders must be kept honest somehow. For two seasons now the DLines have been pinching directly to the mesh point. Late in the season the toss play started working some as long as the TEs and receivers blocked.

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  5. W Cobb Dawg

    When did it become a given that our OLs aren’t quick enough to get out in space to block defenders? I mean, these are 5-star and high 4-star athletic OLs we’re talking about – legit picks for the first 3 rounds of the draft. Just because we didn’t run those plays previously doesn’t mean our guys can’t do it.

    The box will remain loaded until we make defenses pay heavily for loading it. That means going down field. Dink passes to the perimeter ain’t gonna do it.

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  6. ASEF

    5 star linemen are supposed to be huge and agile. It’s why they’re 5 stars?

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  7. Doug Bachman

    “Is Georgia really going to do something to scheme defenders out of the box?”
    With all of the changes on offense I don’t see this happening because of scheme changes. I think Newman’s deep passing and legs are what we will use to get teams out of the box. I know that’s a scheme change, but it’s not on the level of OL guys that are smaller and agile.

    The biggest change I see is the passing routes.

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  8. dawgman3000

    ” Is Georgia really going to do something to scheme defenders out of the box?”

    Good Lord, I sure hope so.

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  9. Hogbody Spradlin

    For the benefit of us who don’t know an X from an O, a zig from a zag, or a Jimmy from a Joe, if you’re gonna post examples maybe post plays that don’t get completely blown up. We get discouraged easily. 😉

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  10. Normaltown Mike

    I wonder how they measure “motion” b/c my lying eyes didn’t detect much by Georgia in 2019. Would Jake move the RB from one side to the other? Yes, quite often. Were our WR’s running jet sweeps? You bet. Were the WR’s jogging down the line, scraping a DB o a pick and running a deep post or sitting down over the LB’s? Not so much.

    For me, it was the refusal (or inability) to push the ball over the middle of the field that was baffling

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  11. FlyingPeakDawg

    Just run into a 9 man box until the D surrenders.

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    • MGW

      Just keep doing it till they get bored with stuffing us for no gain and decide they want to mix it up with something different. Maybe it’ll be a huge gain? Who knows?

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  12. Rob

    “Does Georgia have the offensive linemen to make that play go?”

    I give you: https://www.dawgnation.com/football/georgia-football-fastest-man-conversation-continues-with-gps-numbers

    “Kindley said Ben Cleveland is the fastest of the offensive linemen.
    “Believe it or not, Ben Cleveland is really, really, really fast, he ran like a 19.1 on the GPS, and that’s fast for an offensive lineman, for like 330-some pounds, so he’s fast,” Kindley said.”

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  13. duronimo

    Blaske, Luke’s first recruit, is a bit smaller than Pittman’s prototypical hog. Not only can he run, but he’s twitchy quick. The Savannah newspaper quoted Luke as saying that’s what he wants. Also, if you noticed, hog lineman are injury prone. Modern offenses try to get numbers to the edge … play after play. Sure Cleveland can run …. but how many plays in a row if you’re going up-tempo?

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  14. Brent Rollins

    Wrote this on the UGASports.com DawgVent when asked a very similar question:

    “Therefore, I think the biggest adjustment will be making sure he (Monken) can create enough diversity in the run game or be extremely efficient in the running game with limited diversity.

    The hallmark of any Air Raid offense is the running game is developed as a threat to an over-commitment of resources to the passing game (i.e. 6 or less defenders in the box). Be lethal in the passing game first and the running game succeeds off that. Thus, attack in the passing game so much that teams are primarily concerned there and put more DBs on the field….often giving you a numbers advantage in the box.

    At Southern Miss in 2015, they were a 75% inside or outside zone team like UGA has been in the Kirby era. If that is something he’s going to replicate at UGA, can he dress it up with the RPO game and other eye candy to put the defense in conflict or is he going to focus on being so good in the passing game that DCs fear it and adjust as above. Gonna be fun to see at least I think!“

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