This is the sound of someone who’s grown tired of the bullshit ($$).
“We cannot justify why some students can transfer and others cannot without sitting out,” one ACC athletic director told The Athletic via text message on Monday. “It is also hard to reconcile coaches moving from school to school, although there is a buyout usually, while still trying to limit student transfers.”
It’s hard to keep defending the indefensible. Now do NIL compensation.
He gets half credit for at least mentioning the buyout coaches have to pay when they “transfer”.
Maybe player transfers should have a buyout to pay just like the coach transfers ?
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A college athlete buyout? Sure, just as soon as they get paid like coaches.
Really, the ideas some of you spout off…
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Of the two of us , I’m not the one that’s always making that comparison —
If you want to compare the two but gloss over the very material difference of the buyout – go right ahead.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for there to be a little consideration in exchange for the increased flexibility the one time free transfer would provide.
Nothin’s free ya know
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I forget — how much do regular students have to pay for a transfer?
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How about if they give back half their credit hours and reimburse them for tutoring?
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Because?
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Just sarcasm…
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Looks like I need to re-calibrate my sarcasm detector…
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I can be a bit dry
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Although….maybe they should have to give the Bag Man back half of what he gave them or in the case of Reggie Bush’s family, they have to share the house. That seems fair.
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Reminds me of back in the day when there was some South Florida dude who was paying kids to entice them to enroll at Georgia, but since they signed at Florida, didn’t have to give the money back… at least that’s what Spurrier claimed at the time.
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I love it . A players transfer buyout ( very minimal of course ) , with an increase when a player gains immediate eligibility. I’m still hoping to get fired from my job and receive a 7 year buyout. Just spouting off…..
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Players already have a buyout. It’s called sitting out a year. Yeah yeah, I know, waivers. I’m no stats guy but, I’d guess there are more transfers that sit out a year than there are waivers granted? The waivers get the headlines so you hear about them more.
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I certainly don’t enjoy the transfer portal. I can see the aspect of say the Michigan State fiasco of releasing kids. Kids can’t see past the bling of something new and shiny. One part I thinks that exists in the “culture” of today’s recruiting is it makes no difference if your in the Top 100 or Top 300 these kids who are high schools equivalent to the best ever in their town, county and perhaps state are consumed with being in Twitter fandom and click bait till when they are buried in a 3 deep scheme they never realize they are one play away from contributing.
Now in all honesty you don’t believe that the head coaches are the ones that pay their previous schools buyout. Although I did see where Fech’s athletic director had took a loan out from them to pay Oregon are where he was from on the left coast his buyout clause.
In the real world a school can not make contact with a player till he enters the transfer portal. Hogwash ! There is some form of communication whether it be a cousin, Aunt or the guy at the car wash the kid drives through. Look at the King transfer from Houston to Miami. He chose to set out and redshirt for next season. Bam, he was looking for another school during the season. Come on down Miami.
One thing that might slow the portal entries down would be which ever he school he chooses to attend ( similar to a head coaches buyout ) would be responsible to pay the school he is transferring from the price of his scholarship for one year. This would be excluded on graduate transfers. Finally could we see the statistics on the rate of graduate schools transfers graduation rate of these athletes. If say the schools grad school graduation rate is less than 80% of grad school athletes the kid has to find another school. Enough said.
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You do realize the school isn’t actually out any costs on a scholly, right? It’s a paper entry.
Sorry you don’t enjoy the transfer portal and want to slow it down, but I don’t think its main purpose is to serve the fans’ interest.
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Even if there were costs, what school would say “oh dear, we can’t pay double the scholarship costs for this 5-star that wants to transfer in”. They’re paying coaches multi-millions for wins. The cost of 2 scholly’s would be a drop in the bucket.
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Yeah, but these guys aren’t really after the schools paying that. They’re butthurt about kids like Justin Fields leaving UGA and think they’ll feel better about it if he has to cut a check, or, even better, if he can’t afford the price to leave.
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Paper entry, yes – but you can’t deny there is a loss of value when a player transfers out. I’m sure you’ll try tho. You will have to bring more than process transfers.
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So, what’s the proper amount to charge in your mind?
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Two draft picks – oh wait…………………….
I’m having trouble understanding the angst caused by freedom to transfer without penalty (cost / sitting a year). If a team has a scholarship available then allow transfers if not then allow walk on status.
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The proper thing to do is to quit pointing at coaches changing jobs to justify why players should be able to transfer without penalty.
If you think players should get a free transfer OK fine. Maybe they shouldn’t have to pay a buyout. Maybe the transfers in and out balance or get close enough.
But saying “the coaches do it why can’t I?” , while sensational and compelling, is dishonest.
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Why?
I tell you what, though — I’ll quit making the comparison as soon as coaches stop talking about commitment. How’s that?
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I am all for letting kids transfer one time with no stipulations attached, but it needs to be better regulated. Make it to where they have to declare to transfer by the last game of the season and have to pick a school by signing day or a week before signing day. There needs to strict repercussions if a team has any contact with a player before they transfer. It could be they can’t transfer to that school or if already enrolled they immediately have to sit a year. I know this won’t happen but it’s my wish list.
Plus I think any kid should be able to transfer if they sign with a school and the HC or their position coach leaves before the start of their freshman season. I hate the coaches that take new jobs the day after a kid signs.
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How could you possibly make contacting a potential transfer punishable. Just more rules to circumvent just like the bag man.
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Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I like the Transfer Portal. Freedom of Choice baby.
Why would you ever want to restrict someone from pursuing something or somewhere that they like better, amending an error they made or going to a place that is a better fit for their skills? If one decided to leave a university for another because the other school has a better program for the degree they wish to pursue, should they be penalized? No. There is no difference between that and Justin Fields wanting to go to OSU because his skills fit Ryan Day’s offense better. None.
Giving someone the option of doing this without penalty seems legitimately fair to me.
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I agree. I would also like there to be no consequences for any decision I make regarding my career path. Can we make that happen also ?
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Tell us about the time you quit your job and your employer made you pay back your training expenses…
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Also tell us about the time you had a job for 4 years where you were not paid by your employer who made literal millions off YOU specifically.
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How about apples to apples. If a guy transfers (except the grad transfers) to another school, the new school forfeits one of it’s scholarship slots to the losing school as compensation … no money exchanged.
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Why do you feel this is necessary?
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Thanks Senator. As I read some of the comments I thought about the introduction of free agency in baseball to allow player movement. Somewhere along the line they decided, (aside from the money aspect), that teams losing players should get some draft picks from the other team. Perhaps they thought it necessary to compensate a team losing a good player so their loss was partially mitigated
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Most professional sports try to promote some sort of competitive parity, via the draft, etc.
College football doesn’t do so.
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Still would like to have the grad athletic transfers graduation rate percentages. Are we all naive to think that Newman found a grad program that suited his career dreams more so at UGA rather than Wake ? Reality tells me as you posted Senator in here that he has one intent. We all read in Dawg Porn where Newman and Pickens are the dynamic duo of the SEC. Yet to be determined.
I love the Dawgs but education wise who are they trying to fool. Even Auburn thought Pickens would have a hard time qualifying. There is no point of return. Pardon me for being old enough to remember the players on both offense and defense being on screen with their own eloquent introduction of his name, hometown, year and major. I don’t care for the WWL talking heads putting on a mascots head, the suits and Beth “Frickin” Mowins. There is a reason the NFL stadiums are smaller than the top 20 FBS schools. I am not sure how long it will take to break but the Golden Egg is cracked.
I don’t agree with the hilarity of coaches salaries, the newer, bigger recruiting, weight rooms, recliners, barber shops, water falls but I am not paying for them. So I don’t have a Dawg in that fight. The corporate sponsors and McGill Society will keep IT going. It’s the financial statements the other day. Donor Donations was #1, ticket sales and then down near the bottom was student athletic fees which can’t get into the ballgame till their junior, senior year. I just wonder ……….How long it will exist.
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