Today, in when they say it’s not about the money

Ze boolsheet, she is thick here:

All stakeholders recognize the most important aspect: the well-being of athletes. In addition to the continued risk of contracting the coronavirus, there remains a mental impact the pandemic is having on society as a whole considering the uncertainty surrounding the virus.

What is the allowable risk of spread when football reconvenes? Theoretically, one infected player would have to be quarantined along with everyone they contact.

“Unfortunately, it will be a bit of trial and error,” Waldman said. “Somebody will open up [a sport] … and see what happens. Then maybe one will go well and two will go well and 10 will go well. And then on the 15th try, somebody will get sick. Somebody will say, ‘Maybe we shouldn’t have opened. Maybe we should close again.'”

Yeah, that’s exactly how people concerned about the well-being of athletes sound.

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57 responses to “Today, in when they say it’s not about the money

  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    You’re right. Anytime they say “stakeholders” you know it’s crap. Also, the correct response to “somebody will open up” is: After you dearie.

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  2. David K

    UGA Fall classes start August 14. I’m beginning to genuinely believe that we won’t be back to normal by then. I definitely don’t think we’re going to have Fall sports.

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  3. TN Dawg

    If you truly had the well-being of athletes in mind, you’d never play sports again.

    That would make sure no one ever got infected. Or a concussion. Or a knee injury.

    It’s the only rational solution.

    Woe to the scribes, pharisees and hypocrites that say otherwise.

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    • 79Dawg

      Exactly, if the Senator’s position is that sports can’t be played until the risk of getting the coronavirus is zero, he really needs to go ahead and shut this baby down now…
      And her fear of some MSM hottake or clickbait artist saying “I told you it was too early”, no matter what, has to be the surest bet there is….

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      • Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

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        • 79Dawg

          Its going to be hard to have a conversation about when and to what extent sports (nay, the world?) can reopen, if you are just going to put every Administrator who broaches the subject – particularly when they appear to do so in a reasonable way like the quote above did – “on blast” and accuse them of being dishonest hypocrites whose sole motivation is greed…

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      • TN Dawg

        Hmm.

        That’s certainly a sure bet.

        But personally, I’d argue that “Were you exposed to Coronavirus at a major university? Call the law offices of Douchey, Scumb, and Succaire and join our class action lawsuit” commercials are even a surer bet.

        The real question for starting our country back up won’t be “when has the threat subsided?”, it’ll be “when are we exempt from lawsuit?”.

        Congress should already be drafting that legislation right now.

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    • Cynical Dawg

      There will be no amateur or professional sports in 2020. Maybe in 2021. Sports are very dispensable to our society.

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  4. chopdawg

    Kentucky Derby re-scheduled for 1st Saturday in September.

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    • Skeptic Dawg

      And the Masters appears to have rescheduled for October 8-11. Both of these major sporting events happen to fall during college and pro football season, which seems odd to me. I am beginning to believe the the men who run the Derby and the men of Augusta National know that there will not be any football played this year.

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      • Not a rational logic leap. They make a bazillion dollars on these events. Football isnt part of their thinking. Especially if these events will have the crowds they get. You can actually have college football, a golf event, and a horse race at the same time.

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        • If you’re CBS, do you show the Masters on Saturday afternoon or the SEC game of the week? They can’t move the Masters to ESPN because Mickey will have college football. Either the SEC game that weekend moves to Saturday night or the 3rd round of the Masters moves to Golf Channel.

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  5. ASEF

    Did Kemp really just say yesterday that he did not know asymptomatic carriers could spread the disease until 24 hours ago?

    THAT’S why this shit is going to go 3x times longer than necessary.

    JFC

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    • spur21

      Of course he could be playing the “ignorance card” so as to have plausible deniability – even if it’s not plausible – which what all good politicians do.

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      • ASEF

        Except Fauci was confirming this at a WH press conference on Jan. 31. It’s been THE talking point with health care people about the thing that makes this virus so different in terms of spread.

        A governor not knowing? Holy shit.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      Yes he did but I don’t think anyone was buying it.

      He was clear on how the order was going to be enforced. We’ll see if they follow through.

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      • I must have missed that part. How do they plan to reinforce it?

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        • Bulldog Joe

          State and local law enforcement have authority to cite individuals under state public health emergency orders. Citations and fines will be assessed on individuals and groups. Don’t want to overwhelm the prison system, which is already considered a high risk area.

          DNR has the authority on state parks;
          Dept. of Labor has the authority on business; and
          Georgia National Guard has authority on high risk nursing home access.

          Promised more detail will be included in today’s order. Acknowledged for many people, this is required for the message to sink in.

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          • Ah. I don’t know why I typed reinforce. This should be interesting. How are you going to prove I wasn’t going to check on my senior parents?

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          • spur21

            How will they maintain 6′ separation and give you a citation – just curious. Perhaps toss it on the ground and tell you to fetch or maybe a paper airplane.

            I’m not a candidate for any citation as I am remaining on my property (nearest person is several thousand feet away) – have food – toilet paper – TV and many books.

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          • Bulldog Joe

            Just read the order which went into effect on Friday.

            Law enforcement below the county level is not authorized to enforce the order. Nor can they enforce more restrictive local measures already in place.

            This makes no sense.

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    • Went to Walmart yesterday…A family of 8!!!! With 5!!! Small children in walmart. Plus tons of groups/families that took walmarting as their entertainment for the day.

      If someone was sick we all
      (100s) got it.

      Im.all about freedom and America and hate people slamming us from the left, but maybe we are that stupid. My mom said there was a huge party for a 1 year old in LA.

      Between the politicians and the Americans is amazing this place runs at times. Truly is a minority of Dagney Tagerts.

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      • spur21

        A funeral in Albany triggered what 18 deaths among the funeral goers. The guest were from across the country – even Hawaii.

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  6. rchris

    Hey Senator, What if we were not able to play until the first week in January? Could we have some sort of semi-legitimate season that would wrap up about Super Bowl time? How about playing a Swiss system tournament like they do in chess. Teams play their arch rival the first week, the next week the winners play winners and losers play losers. After that the 2-0s play each other, the 1-1s play each other, and the winless play each other. Go like that for about 6 weeks and you should know who the best 2 teams in America are. Play a national championship game in mid February and voila, a national champion. Because it cuts out the lopsided games I guarantee it would generate almost as much cash as what we have now. What do you think?

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  7. ATL Dawg

    The Butts-Mehre Country Club knew what they were doing by not budging more than 6 days on their season ticket order deadline. They wanted to get all that money in their possession before the shit totally hit the fan in mid April.

    They will kindly return the money later in the year after they’ve made some healthy interest on it. However, personal seat license fees (aka “donations”) will not be discussed until the season ticket holders go ape shit about it. They will eventually cave and do the bare minimum of letting those fees satisfy 2021 requirements.

    The Georgia Way in 5 sentences.

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    • The Georgia Way

      Rest assured, our new policy will be explained on the back of your ticket.

      #MUSTBUYITTOSEEWHATSONIT #COMMITTOTHEG

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  8. Macallanlover

    Even with minimal risk to CFB players this fall, I fully expect the “leaders” to grab their snuggle bunnies and hide in the corner until every case of CoVid 19 is snuffed off the planet. Keeping fans away, or limited, seems reasonable until we are further along, but I don’t have great confidence the decision makers will allow the teams to begin practice in August.

    While there is a chance things spiral out of control and our worst case scenarios come true, but there seems to be a far better chance there is minimal risk by August that players of this age will be struck by the this virus, and even less that they will be in much danger. (I would be more concerned by heat, or storm, issues than CoVid 19 from what I have read.) This is not to say the virus cannot be dangerous, and should be overlooked, just that this doesn’t look like the apocalypse. And yes, there is still much to learn; there is also a lot of data being analyzed every day so we aren’t totally in the dark. Just keep old farts like me on the sofa, and let the Millennials fill about 20k of the seats in Sanford.

    I did go to Senior Happy Hour today at Costco at 8 AM. Let me tell you theses folks do not follow football, or golf, because they don’t have a clue about what 6 feet of social spacing looks like. In the line to get in before the doors opened, I would say the average spacing was closer to 15 feet between shoppers. It is 2 paces, similar to the height of a fairly average man, so it should be pretty easy to estimate. If a team had to go 5 times that far for a 1st down in 3 plays, you wouldn’t see very many in a game. Wimps I tell you, and many were wearing masks and/or gloves. To hell with the “may you live in interesting times” bull sheet.

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    • TN Dawg

      COVID mortality rate in South Korea was statistically zero in those under 29 years of age.

      Which is to say, it’s too dangerous!

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    • So, people that are concerned about their personal safety are wimps, and furthermore “dont know football”. If we had everyone acting like your wimps we’d have less transmission.

      Breaking news: more people dont care about football, than do. And thanks for the breakdown on what 6 feet is, I feel slighted I didnt get it on metric.

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      • Macallanlover

        If that is what you think I said, you need to have someone read and interpret for you. Pitiful, but this isn’t the time to drag along the weak.

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        • You literally called people wimps, compared it to football knowledge, and seem indifferent to people being acutely concerned about there safety.

          My reading is just fine. And of course you spin or to a personal insult. And I like how you question my strength, nice job keyboard warrior. Go ahead, take your one more attack, I’m not responding to your BS.

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  9. willypmd

    Well, by that time we should antibody testing such that we can identify those who are immune.

    We also should have a relatively sensitive and specific test so that anyone that shows any concerning symptoms can be quarantined and serially tested such that the statistical probability of them having the virus is basically zero should they text negative 2,3,4 times, whatever our test ends up being.

    At that point social distancing and isolation practices should be fine for those that do test positive especially considering a large chunk of us should be immune and unable to be a reservoir for the virus or at least have a shortened period of contagion.

    Hell for such a s mall pool of people, you could really test every single person that doesn’t have immunity every single day before practice whether they have symptoms or not.

    TLDR: I’m not sure we won’t have sports this year that are relatively unaffected…

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    • TN Dawg

      The FDA approved a serology test today for antibodies that have been developed by those that have been previously infected with the virus that appears to have originated with bats from the country of China that subsequently spread throughout the world.

      As it is unclear as to whether one may become reinfected, it is not necessarily a silver bullet, but may shed much greater light on the morbidity and mortality figures surrounding COVID (Chinese Originated Viral Infectious Disease).

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  10. TN Dawg

    This is pretty cool.

    I know the guy is just an infectious disease specialist and not a blog commenter, but he seems pretty damned excited about the results of his study on actual patients.

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6146455701001#sp=show-clips

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    • Sorry, haven’t been keeping up — what the current state of the art take at Fox now about the coronavirus, just the flu or a national disaster caused by the Chinese and the Democrats?

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      • TN Dawg

        Politics aside, it’s not really a “Fox Hot-take” as much as it is a doctor that heads up a center for infectious disease control that has been treating his patients with Hydroxychloroquine and Z-pac.

        Of his 40 patients he has treated with a full 5 day regimen, none have required intubation. The only patients that have had difficulty are those that received two or fewer days of treatment.

        Similar studies are being reported out of France and New York.

        I know it’s not the gloomy outlook we were all hoping for, with hundreds of thousands of dead bodies being burned round the clock in makeshift dumpster pyres and people living in their basement with the shades drawn, but it is still pretty interesting.

        Similar bad news seems to be coming out of Israel, where researchers are expecting a vaccination in the next ten days.

        I still holding on to hope that it will kill us all.

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        • ATL Dawg

          Hot take!

          LOL, a vaccination in the next ten days. I heard five…I don’t know…it may be ten. We’ll see. {arm movements for emphasis}

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          • TN Dawg

            University of Pittsburg Medical is hopeful they may already have one.

            https://www.upmc.com/media/news/040220-falo-gambotto-sars-cov2-vaccine

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            • ATL Dawg

              “The authors are now in the process of applying for an investigational new drug approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in anticipation of starting a phase I human clinical trial in the next few months.

              ‘Testing in patients would typically require at least a year and probably longer,’ Falo said.”

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              • TN Dawg

                I’m aware there is testing protocol, but the vaccine may very well have been created.

                It’s step one.

                I’m sorry if this is not good enough news.

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                • ATL Dawg

                  It’s A step one. It’s one of countless step ones that may lead to a vaccine being available in 12-18 months.

                  You started with the ridiculous statement that “researchers are expecting a vaccination in the next ten days”. Now you’ve backpedaled to talking about “step one” and framing yourself into a victim who is just trying to bring good news.

                  And this is after a lot of ranting from you lately about how the measures being taken to deal with COVID-19 are overreactions, while mocking the seriousness of it all. Hell, this comments section alone contains numerous examples of this from you. And if there’s a more prolific strawman creator out there, I hope they don’t show up here anytime soon.

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        • ASEF

          It’s an observational study only. No blinds. Nothing to estimate placebo effect. Most people recover without going to the hospital, so this study does NOT tell us how effective the drugs were above nothing at all.

          Did he mention the drugs side effects? Or how the mixture of them can affect your health?

          They’re not colloidal silver, but the hype on that drug combo is waaaaay overblown at this point.

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      • Faulkner

        Well Senator, if the Chinese had been honest about what was happening in Wuhan back in December and early January we wouldn’t be in our current predicament. Instead they covered it up and arrested anyone who went on social media and tried to warn the world. They Chinese citizenship and the world in general are expendable to the CCP. Fuck the CCP. It would also have been nice if congress had come together quickly and passed a pork free assistance bill. However we can’t have nice things right?

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    • Faulkner

      TN Dawg
      Not sure why the Senator jumped your shit. You said blog commenter not blog owner/creator.

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  11. Anonymous

    Having football this fall is completely plausible, but it be in mostly empty stadiums. We will hit peak hospital usage in two to three weeks. Hospitals should no longer be over capacity by mid May. At that point, we can think about opening up slightly so long as we are not overwhelming the medical system. The preliminary results of the hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin (and should be zinc) trials in New York will be available in the next couple of day. We have known that this is effective for almost a month. They will then realize that it is most effective to give it to people when they first show symptoms in the first week of infection. We will still have a lot of pneumonia, but very few people will need respirators. The question is how long does it take to make enough medicine for everyone.

    Meanwhile, we will continue to to make tests that detect the virus and detect antibodies in those that are now immune post infection. We will then do the Test -> Trace -> Isolate process. As soon as someone show symptoms, they will get tested. If positive, they will get their 5 days for hydroxychloroquine and anithromycin and will be sent home to self isolate for two weeks. We will test the people with whom they have been in contact. We will have to wear masks (because the government will soon quit lying about masks… they work) and practice social distancing, but we will be able to go back to work. We will avoid having large crowd until the vaccine is ready (which will be quicker than the experts are saying. I’m guessing December / January). The risk will be to high to have 80K people in stadiums, but it will probably be an acceptable risk to have schools open (with social distancing and enhancing cleaning) and to have sports without fans / tailgating.

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  12. ATL Dawg

    Maymester and summer semester will be online only for the University System of Georgia.

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  13. WHB209

    There are three things that would allow the world to go back to almost normal in 3 to 6 months…
    #1- A treatment is developed that relieves pain, suffering and
    Stops DEATH. (There will not be a cure, but stopping death is very good)
    #2- Herd immunity. Lowers the new infections to close to zero. (herd
    immunity means so many people have developed immunity because of
    luck, stupidity or some alien decided to same earth, that there are no
    new cases)
    #3- Summer increases heat and UV radiation which in some way kills this
    virus. (This would only help the Northern Hemisphere, just thought of
    that, therefore summer would not save the world, but maybe it
    would save North American real football)
    If you are hoping for a vax. forget it, that is 12 to 18 months from happening.
    Therefore in 3 to 6 months there is a possibility that studio football might be played. That is better than no games. But I don’t fell real excited any one of these three things happening…

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    • Anonymous

      We have #1. We know that Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin + zinc works. It has been the standard method of treatment in China since at least the third week of February when they placed orders for millions of chloroquine pills.

      We will have a vaccine before #2. We need 80-90%+ of the population to have recovered from CoViD to have herd immunity. We don’t have the hospital capacity to have 90% of the population get sick within the timeframe of a vaccine. Also, 12 to 18 months is normal time for a vaccine. There are not normal times. I’m expecting a vaccine by January. We have one that started Phase 1 Clinical Trials in late March.

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