You know, for a smart guy, Mike Leach sure does step in it a lot.
The Mississippi State football coach posts a photo with a funny caption more days than not. He said one of his favorites was a picture of a fenced field with a sign on it that said, “Do not cross this field unless you can do it in 9 seconds because the bull can do it in 10.”
Wednesday night’s meme was not as universally amusing.
The picture depicted an elderly woman with knitting sticks in her hands. The caption said, “After 2 weeks of quarantine with her husband, Gertrude decided to knit him a scarf..”
The lady was not knitting a scarf, but rather a noose. The hangman’s knot was already tied. Multiple Mississippi State football players and a Mississippi State University professor took exception to the tweet, which has been deleted from Leach’s account.
Senior linebacker Erroll Thompson, who was a captain on last year’s team, retweeted the original post with a hand-on-the-chin, eyebrow-raised thinking emoji. Defensive lineman Fabien Lovett responded to the tweet with “Wtf.” Senior defensive end Kobe Jones responded to Lovett with “Facts. He tripping.” with a hand-on-the-face ashamed emoji.
Yeah, not exactly the team-building exercise you want there.
Think Junior will make any hay with this on the recruiting trail?
Get The Picture 
Some coaches need a “get back” coach on the field. Mike Leach needs a “get back” coach OFF the field.
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He never intends to offend. Just can’t seem to figure out how not to, poor sap.
Or maybe he’s just an ass.
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Name what is offensive in the tweet.
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My friend, images of nooses in almost any context will be offensive to someone. And it’s a matter of whether it offends you or not; it’s that many, many others would find it offensive.
I understand why people get upset about people getting upset. But these things really are easily avoided if one puts a little thought into it.
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Nope. Try again. And this time use logic.
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See, there you go again, apparently. Because you’re not offended, no one else should be? That’s not how it works, and it’s different for people in positions of leadership, especially in public. If you can’t appreciate that at least a little, you’re just as bad as the cancel culture people.
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I agree that public figures, especially those representing a major brand or institution, have to be more mindful than the average joe in regards to what they put on social media in our current social climate. But to paraphrase your earlier comment, “images of in almost any context will be offensive to someone.”, so where do you draw the line? Where do you go from “he shouldn’t have tweeted that” to “if you don’t like it, don’t look at it”? Seems like some people are just looking for an opportunity to say “I’m offended!”.
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Oops, meant that to say “images of blank…”
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mddawg, totally agree with you on this. It’s highly sensitive and down to the moment, which is why one really has to be careful to avoid rather a lot, because it’s unpredictable. And ultimately there’s a necessary awareness of the “other” and the “now” that everyone doesn’t possess or have time for. Yet, those getting paid tons of dollars to be public figures have to have this awareness anyway– it’s part of the job, and the organizations in question have no doubt made that clear. It’s really always been part of that job, when you think about it, just the terms have changed.
The majority of coaches manage just fine. This won’t hurt Leach in the end anyway because it really isn’t that bad. But he’s in Mississippi now and things might be just a tad bit different than they were in Washington.
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Yeah, a coach has to be careful while in the midst of instructing a big lineman to “Stop playing like a pussy!” when the guy may be gay. The manliness of the coaching instruction should be such that you don’t inadvertently touch on their love-life. Then again, if the coach finishes the verbal instruction with a simulated broken wrist, the team could infer that the same sensitivity applies to them as well.
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Good post.
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Sorry, I intended to write that “it’s NOT a matter of whether it offends you, as an individual, or not; it’s that many, may others will find it offensive.”
And again, maybe a person’s paid position as an administrator and representative of an institutions of higher learning dictates that discretion is valued in this kind of circumstance.
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Again… use LOGIC.
All I see is a lack of logic. I see giant leaps to struggle to make a connection, but no logic.
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Uh huh. Because your definition of logic is what matters here. Have a nice time in your tunnel.
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What are you even talking about? There is no “my definition of logic,” there is logic and then there is feelings. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
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If only she had been knitting a hand gun, then I guess that would have been cool and acceptable.
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Welcome to PC culture, where Twitterland critiques everything you say, every word you use, things you don’t say and do it behind the anonymity of a keyboard.
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Which is what you’re doing…
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Sadly, I’m sure that tweet was probably a hit with a majority of the fan base and alumni.
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I’m sure that some of the people who found it funny aren’t racists though. Seriously, when I see a noose, my first thought isn’t lynching or hate crime or the like. I haven’t seen this particular image that he tweeted though, so maybe I’m missing something.
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I saw the meme and thought it was funny. The idea of lynchings never crossed my mind. I could get the outrage if there was some sort of racist undertone or something. But it was literally and old lady knitting
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My wife showed it to me and said she was going to start on one. I thought it was funny because we are spending so much time together now. I never thought of anything other than her joke to me. How can a wife knitting something for her husband be deemed as lynching? or racist? It’s her freaking husband. stop looking for the negative in everything. If your married, you totally understand and get the joke.
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I will make the assumption that you and the 3 others that replied are white? You see the image through your lens as inoffensive, but a noose IS a symbol of oppression to many (most) black people and they will find the tweet inappropriate. Particularly for a person who leads a team of mostly black athletes, it’s extraordinarily tone deaf. BTW, I’m white.
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Is the noose a weapon exclusive to white racists killing blacks in quite the same way, as say, gas chambers feel a uniquely horrific Nazi method of killing Jews? I don’t deny there is some symbolism there, but it’s not anywhere close to the same, especially if the married couple are both white.
A whole lot of white people were hanged – it is more a weapon of an era, imho. I suspect that cartoon would have been overlooked in 1963, because people knew of hanging in political and criminal contexts (and westerns!) in addition to its nefarious use in the South.
Leach could have picked something else – purely from a PR standpoint and given the history at Ole Miss in particular, but his detractors could also be think more broadly, and especially consider that one cannot knit a gun, a knife, a hand grenade, etc – as the real reason for the artist’s decision.
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Yeah, he could repost that photo of the pickup flying the Confederate Battle Flag while driving through the Ole Miss campus with a noose hanging off the tailgate. Personally, I go for the croaker sack with two eye-holes cut.
Gallows humor is a tricky sort of funny.
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There was absolutely nothing “offensive” about that tweet. Nothing.
Not of things like context actually matter anymore, and I guess to the perpetually fauxffended, context doesn’t matter.
Not if you actually use your brain. Which so many people tend to never use.
It was a joke. About a wife and a husband and living in quarantine. If you make a connection to that and lynching, which there is no comparison at all, then the problem resides with you, and not Leach or the person who originated the meme, which was actually pretty funny.
I am sick and fucking tired of this shit.
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Some of you are either too young to understand or you are willfully ignorant like Corch. Not far from MSU is Philadelphia, MS where 3 civil rights workers were tortured, murdered, and buried in an earthen dam in 1964. The state plaque marking the spot where Emmett Till was lynched near Money, MS has to continually be repaired because ignorant white Mississippians enjoy shooting the plaque with bullets and shotgun shells. The noose is a powerfully intimidating symbol of a racist past. Corch, I don’t give a flying fuck about how you feel about it. Sit your ignorant ass down and shut up.
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And explain what THAT has to do with the meme Leach tweeted.
Use logic to tie the two together using context. Let me save you some time… you can’t.
The only ignorant people here are those who make the giant leaps to struggle to connect them in order to be offended. That meme had nothing to do with lynching. Unless you honestly believe the only people ever hanged in the entire world for any reason whatsoever was during lynching. Patrick Henry would have something to say about that, except he died by hanging, regretting he only had one life to give for idiots like you.
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It doesn’t matter what a noose symbolizes to YOU. It matters very much what a noose symbolizes to African Americans. It offends and angers them. So maybe the best thing that you could do is NOT attempt to “whitesplain” how it doesn’t symbolize anything when you know good and God damn well it does.
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No, that’s not what I’m saying. People can think however they want, the problem is, people aren’t THINKING.
Where is the thinking here? Where is the logic? Are people following context? You cannot seriously claim that anyone who finds themselves offended (which remember, is something they have to choose to be) is actually thinking.
This is not about thinking, this is about feeling. And yes, that is what I’m sick and fucking tired of: people confusing how they FEEL as the same thing as making logical, thoughtful conclusions, or demanding others censor speech to suit how they FEEL.
Think whatever it is you want to think, but the moment you tell someone they can’t say something because how you feel, that’s the moment you’re wrong.
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There you again, THINKING that what YOU think matters. Get your head out of your ass for five minutes.
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Hey, news flash. You don’t get to tell anybody when to sit down and shut up. You sit down and shut up. So friggin’ offensive.
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C’mon, it’s not a stretch to understand why it’s offensive. Yes, you can read the joke to mean she was knitting the noose to hang her husband with because she’s sick of being quarantined with him. Yes, that was likely the gist of the joke that the author intended. But white guys in the South should generally avoid jokes that involve nooses and hangings. It’s not that hard to understand that you might at least raise some eyebrows and at worst genuinely offend someone. It’s not that hard, just be a good citizen.
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That is unreasonable. Context matters, especially if you claim people should or must self-censor speech, which is what this is.
Even speech I find offensive, such as using the n-word in what would be considered offensive context, is not something I would ever take a position to ban or disallow.
Given that, I am definitely not going to be for disallowing speech or forcing people to self-censor because there are people who refuse to use context and instead make giant leaps in logic so they can be perpetually offended about anything they want.
There is no right not to be offended.
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It’s true that there’s no right not to be offended, but there is definitely a right to speak up and be heard about what offends you. Coach Leach has freedom of speech and there’s no action to disallow that… he doesn’t have a right to freedom from consequences for his speech. Probably why when he was informed why what he said was offensive to many, he deleted the tweet.
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So you argue that any number of people finding anything offensive for any reason whatsoever should be kowtowed to in every situation?
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What were you saying about logic and context? In this particular context, a man making millions to coach football realizes he may have offended a large part of the lifeblood (players and recruits) that he relies upon to sustain his job. He makes the calculated decision to backtrack and apologize to mitigate the situation, regardless of whether he personally thinks anyone should be offended or not. He knows this decision is the best course of action for his own interests. Sounds pretty damn logical to me.
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If the noose doesn’t offend you, then why do we need to hear about it at all from you? Shut the fuck up and move on. It says a lot about you that you’re bothered by African Americans pushing back against it.
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If you think that’s the point I’m making, you truly are the idiot I believe you to be. Also, if you think playing the race card is going to shame me or make me rethink me position, you’re mistaken. Nice try, though.
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Y’all may want to play Tug-of-War with a rope that has a hangman’s noose on both ends and placed around your necks.
Y’all also ought to have your temperature taken because I think both you Dawgs have Cabin Fever.
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Hah! Maybe!
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Tell us about “forcing people to self-censor.”
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I’m not trying to pick a fight here, but what you’re saying here is, “I’m sick and fucking tired of people not thinking exactly how I do and having life experiences that are different from mine.” What you’re saying is, “there is absolutely nothing offensive about this tweet TO ME.”
Look, the noose is a very powerful symbol and image. To members of the African-American community, the image of a noose is a reminder of years of brutal oppression on the part of a white majority that was willing to drag black people out in the middle of the night and hang them from trees to keep them “in line” with the rules of Jim Crow society in the post-Civil War era. To say nothing of lynchings and brutality that happened to slaves before emancipation. So, while a joke involving a noose may not be offense TO YOU or whatever racial demographic YOU come from, it’s EXTREMELY offensive to black people. And, living in the south and perhaps most especially in the state of Mississippi, people would do well to be aware of that, especially if, say, they are in a line of work where they need to be recruit and work with young African-Americans. Was Mike Leach trying to make a reference to lynchings of black people? Absolutely not. Should he have been more aware of the power that image would hold? Absolutely he should have.
What it all comes down to is this, Corch: if you don’t intend something as offensive, then cool. But once you’ve been told that something is hurtful or offensive to someone else (or a huge group) then you either have the choice to stop doing that thing or you can tell them that they’re wrong and keep doing that thing to intentionally offend and hurt them. Intentionally hurting someone is wrong. It’s about not being an asshole. Credit to Mike Leach for not digging in his heels on what he intended and deleting the tweet instead. All it costs is not sharing a joke meme with your twitter followers and maybe just showing it to one or two people instead. Not sure if this is a consideration that resonates with you, but what would Jesus do? I doubt He’d get in someone’s face and tell them that He was sick of considering their feelings and experiences and tell them to stop being offended.
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That’s not how it works.
What you FEEL gives you no rights to demand anyone do anything.
If you want to make a logical argument, let’s have it. The issue always is in these situations though, there is no logical argument. Why? Because there is no logic. Any argument you proffer is based on feelings not facts, and any argument you try to make is undone by simple context.
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It’s not logical to expect to be able to tell a noose joke in Mississippi without blowback.
Unlike you, Leach understands that now.
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Your claim that the blowback is what matters is exactly the point I’m making against. The blowback is caused by people not thinking, not following context, and instead believing their feelings provide them the right to tell others how to act or how to speak in a public forum.
You’re a lawyer, right? You should be able to tear this ridiculous point of view apart. Anyone can claim to be offended by anything, and we’re supposed to allow them to dictate how we act and what we say?
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Ask Mike Leach if the blowback is what matters.
He’s coaching and recruiting black athletes. Of course it matters to them.
That’s the reason it affects him and doesn’t affect you.
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And what’s missed here is a chance to educate and strengthen minds so they can understand how to use contextual clues to make thoughtful observations as opposed to being so weak-minded that they allow their feelings to overwhelm their logic.
We’ve spent the better part of five decades catering to people’s feelings, and how is that working out for us as a society?
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You really think its only been 5 decades?
The distinction is that before that society catered to the feelings you were sympathetic to. So you didn’t notice.
The moment the “others” have a say then you start keeping score.
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Again with the race card.
I’m talking about catering to people’s feelings, not a people’s right to live under the same laws as everyone else and have their natural rights protected the same as everyone else.
The self-esteem movement that started in the 70’s, Derek, where feelings began to take precedent over thinking. While it started out as a good idea to not deny what you feel, it has ended up to the point now where people believe their feelings, whatever they happen to be, must take precedent over the rights of others.
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It isn’t just race. Its gender. Its sexual orientation.
When society was structured to cater to the white male heterosexual hegemony, no one considered that was a “pc” construct. But it was.
People feelings would have been hurt by:
Integration
Homosexuality of any kind anywhere
Equality for women
So gaining equality for the groups adversely impacted didn’t happen.
To suggest that pre-1960’s society was absent irrational choices based on “feelings” is fucking stupid.
PC is just a label stamped on to people who are challenging the old PC construct.
You can debate it all you want but pretending that policies don’t derive from people’s feelings about things is dumb.
Unless you want to argue that jim crow and segregation and women not voting or owning property were objectively rational policy choices devoid of emotion.
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Again with sneakily trying to label me a racist, but this time actually making my point for me.
OF COURSE Jim Crow Laws were illogical and feelings-based. That’s why they had to go. And the arguments made to tear them down by people like Thurgood Marshall were made with LOGIC not feeling. The law was used to fight against Jim Crow.
Oh Derek, you seriously walked into that one you race-bating so and so.
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“We’ve spent the better part of five decades catering to people’s feelings”
Oh corch, you don’t care is you contradict yourself within seconds do you?
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I literally explained what I meant with the self-esteem movement starting in the 70’s. That’s five decades ago.
If I mean to speak about the Civil Rights Movements, you race baiter, I would’ve said 7 or even 8 decades ago. Or can you not do simple math, Derek?
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Yes, if only black people would make the effort to understand the logic behind white folks’ sense of humor, the world would be a better place.
You are too much today.
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Again with the race card. This is an issue of logic vs. feeling; of allowing anyone, for any reason, to chill public speech because they claim to be offended.
What does being black or white or anything have to do with those concepts? Or are you, a lawyer, claiming that black people in America should have the right to chill public speech whenever they find anything offensive for any reason they give?
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Expressing disapproval of what somebody says — which, by the way, is what you’re doing — is not the same as “chilling public speech”.
“What does being black or white or anything have to do with those concepts?”, sadly, is the question you should be asking yourself, not me.
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It is chilling speech when “expressing disapproval” carries with it the kind of consequences that force someone to censor their own speech that by any logical measure is not offensive. Using feelings as a measure to justify those consequences, regardless of what you may feel here, is wrong. As Derek correctly pointed out when he thought he was trapping me in a “gotcha” that was a gotcha trap of his own making, anytime a group of people get loud enough voices, they can use their feelings to do more than chill speech. We cannot live in a society such as that. We must be better.
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It’s logic when you make the rules and definitions… ah, now I get it.
We’re done here.
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You’re right, I think we are. What you describe is an Intersectionalist view of the world, in which the higher up the ladder you are, the more you allowed to abuse logic to suit your needs. That’s not the world in which I want to live. Thanks for the discussion, such as it was.
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Yeah, if we could just rid ourselves of people….
Every majority and minority will be made of PEOPLE and they will have FEELINGS. Expect them to be expressed from time to time.
Might even end up in law.
After all dont i have to risk being gunned down via ar-15 street sweepers because of some peoples irrational paranoia and limited entertainment perspectives?
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No dumbass, you’re the one who doesn’t understand how this works.
There’s no logic behind whether something is offensive or not because experiencing hurt on account of what someone else said or did is ALL about FEELINGS. Nobody determines their feelings based on a logical argument (although they may work through their feelings with logic at a later date).
This should be easy to understand, but I guess I can’t expect much from someone who names themself after a sociopath.
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No dumbass, if you want to restrict what people say in a public forum, you better have a helluva lot more than your feelings for your argument as to why.
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My reasoning is simply this: I love my neighbor more than I love having the right to say whatever the hell I want without consequence.
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I love my neighbor and I want him to be able to say and do whatever he wants under the limits of the law that are his natural rights as protected by the US Constitution. 🤷🏻♂️
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
You can say whatever you like.
Guess what?
People get to respond.
Free speech doesn’t equate to “free pass.”
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If that’s where it ended, I would agree with you, 100%. But it’s not, and you know that.
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Actually I don’t. Tell me where the law is allowing limits on offensive speech.
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Public speech can be silenced outside of the law, which is what is happening, as you very well know. FFS, you pedant.
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You should know this, but the Constitution only protects people’s speech from government interference. Private actors are not bound by the First Amendment. Leach hasn’t violated any laws (except the laws of good taste) and the government is not restricting his speech. The blowback from this is mostly coming from private sources which are not bound by the First Amendment.
You obviously don’t love your neighbor if you insist that they always agree with and accommodate you.
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No, I know that well.
And I do love my neighbor more than you because I want to treat them as I would want to be treated: left alone.
You and others would have people now down to an oppressive and mercurial state of being in which if one single person chooses to be offended they can shut down anyone’s speech in a public forum. While that’s not government tyranny, it is tyranny of another kind.
Where does it fucking end? Someone’s hurt fee-fees give them no power and no rights, and yet you and others like you act as though they do.
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Great post Go Dawgs! , but Corch Meyer is a sociopath who can only think about himself. No use arguing with a man like that.
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When people have nothing constructive to add and don’t possess the ability to submit a logical argument, the only arrow in their quiver tends to be the ad hominem attack. Given that, why say anything at all?
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Go Dawgs had a very constructive post but you’re refusing to understand it. I can’t help it you feel offended because you’re being called out over your self-centered words.
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If you think you be offended me, you give yourself far too much power in my life.
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Well you obviously got riled up enough to spend the day arguing with a bunch of people here. Your posts speak for themselves.
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Riled up? This is fun. I live for debate and argument like this. Especially with those who are so obviously on the wrong side of free speech absolutism.😂
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What is interesting to me here is that those who expressed offense had the power to get a reaction.
Had this been a southern politician’s social media post vs. a NAACP press release, I don’t think we get an apology. In fact, I think you’d get a politician wallowing in the degree to which he doesn’t give one fuck.
You can debate right and wrong endlessly, but if you don’t take a moment to reflect on the power, political/economic, of the respective parties in the debate, well, you’re lost.
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Pissing off snowflakes.. GATA Leach
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Dont you hope Kirby makes a joke about getting so bored he took two pieces of wood, crossed them, stood them up, and set them afire?
That’ll pwn ‘em!!!
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Hey look, a strawman makes an appearance!
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Hey look whose triggered!
And stop suppressing my speech with your contradictions!!
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The only person whose made a contradiction is yourself when you walked into a gotcha trap that you yourself laid. It’s a shame you can’t do simple arithmetic. You would’ve saved yourself the embarrassment. 😂
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You should try achieving literacy before you dive into rhetoric.
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Imagine being so ignorant of both simple math AND history that you honestly believe and continue to argue that the Civil Rights Era began in the 1970’s.
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Imagine being such a fucking moron that you set the timeframe, the other guy says nothing about race in response, you them say its about race and then argue about the time frame.
That’s 4 dimensional idiocy.
At some point you have to look deeply into the mirror and say: “corch, you’re a fucking moron.”
And then start over.
I’d recommend “See Spot Run.”
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You’re the one who misapplied the timeframe, assuming I meant the Civil Rights Era as a way to entrapt me with your race-baiting nonsense. Why is it Derek any time (every time) you can’t make an argument work, you ALWAYS resort to labeling someone with an -ism? Whether it’s overt or covert (as this was), it doesn’t matter. It’s your default setting, you neo progressive Far Leftist loon.
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I disagree Senator – we have seen so many pieces of sports journalism extolling the intelligence & intellectual curiosity of one Mike Leach. He doesn’t think like other typical football coaches. He is interested in so much more beyond football etc. Heck after criticizing Mitt Romney he was on the twitter offering to debate all comers on any topic.
I think he knew exactly what he was doing and was fully aware he there would be blowback. Now I most likely do not have the mental acumen to speculate on the motivations of one Mississippi State Head Football Coach Michael Charles Leach (he would be the first to tell you of that fact) but perhaps he was bored (at best) or (at worst) was using the time off to test how far he could push the MSU team & fanbase.
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So…anyone seen any good jokes lately?
I am going to use logic and end my comments there.
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Meh, Leach never stops long enough to think before shooting off at the hip. Grandpa always said “empty barrels make the most noise”, and that description fits Leach to a T. Compared with other professionals employed at a university, Leach is about as far as one gets from being the “smart guy”.
And for those saying ‘tough shit if people are offended by a noose’, I’d love to hear you say that to an African American defensive lineman.
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Right, on both counts.
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So, attempting have a discussion with a person in which you would make a point about how to use proper context to derive meaning as opposed to allowing their feelings to dictate their responses in an unthinking and illogical manner is now wholly dependent on 1. the person’s ethnicity and 2. the discussion itself would hurt the person’s feelings to the point that they would irrationally decide that physically assaulting you is their best course of action?
Yep. Sounds about right, W Cobb Dawg.
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I don’t have a clue wtf you’re talking about. If you want to offend people, go ahead and good luck. Telling a woman she’s fat may be an interesting “discussion” for you, but there could be consequences if a husband is nearby.
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What if we’re not saying “tough shit” but to kindly suggest people see the cartoon for what it is and to consider making their threshold of what they find offensive a little higher?
Because our outrage scale need not be set in stone. I often have to make choices about what I think I should let go and what I can tolerate. And I’m okay with the back and forth as we are allowed to talk about it openly and with kindness, but that’s not happening here today.
But it’s absurd to say “you can’t think someone’s feelings are misguided”. First, we’ve all felt things and then later realized we were wrong, overreacted, etc – so feelings can be respected, discussed – but are not reliable barometers of right and wrong.
Second, if feelings cannot be misguided, only felt, then Corch’s feelings cannot be misguided and ought to be respected here.
There are nooses in Westerns – should we boycott those? What’s the difference between a noose in a cartoon and a noose in a Western if neither have racist / southern context?
By the way, your comment about the African American lineman was out of line – my dad can beat up your dad is a pretty lousy argument and I was surprised that came from you. I don’t think you’d like somebody saying they’d shoot somebody who disagreed with them, and it’s basically the same thing.
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BAN EVERYTHING FOR ANY REASON… is literally the argument they’re making when you take it to the logical conclusion. They won’t admit to it, but it’s exactly what they’re saying. As long as one person chooses to be offended by something, it’s literally all it takes.
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Just to add some levity to a morbid should have been a “ play pen” forum. I’m not a Twitterer or a Facebooker but I seem to manage time well without it. I think I first noticed this on a pretty much blank ESPN lineup and as age creeps up on me I saw the statement of Coach Leach’s and unwittingly I didn’t have on my glasses so when I read the caption I read “the wife was knitting a moose” and I wondered what all the uproar was about until ya’ll cleared all that up with your dictionary of blogdoms. Actually I wondered WTF is a moose upsetting about. I guess I need to wear my readers more. Thanks Senator for the clarification. Leach is gonna Leach and haters gonna hate.
Have a good day Be Blessed !
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Lighten the F up. I’m 73 and in the high risk group and thought it was funny. The hangman’s noose was not PC and obviously the SJW were going out of their collective minds like some on here. It was in poor taste but WTF.
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Glad to know you’re the final judge on the meaning of all this.
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That you don’t see you and others like you actually do believe YOU are final arbiters of what people can or cannot say based upon an ever-changing list of nouns that you and others like you get to deem as offensive tells me that irony and humor are truly dead. This is what post-modernism has wrought on the world. It’s fucking Orwellian. Change the language. Change the meaning of words and objects and twist everyone’s intent until it fits your narrow, tyrannical narrative.
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Interesting argument and one that reminded me of two Biochemistry professors at Georgia who got into an argument. They both were well-respected, the tips of academic swords, world-acclaimed researchers and had plenty of knowledge to back up opinions. I knew one of them through classwork and thought he was the brightest person ever met academically, but perhaps not so much in his social whirl when driving through campus late at night with a woman all over him and who was not his third wife at the time.
A graduate student who was there told of an argument both profs got into one evening in the lab that became heated to the point of smashing lab glass. They shouted epithets at each other and countered their points made in the argument with pithy quotes that one of them finally uttered in French to the other, to which the other countered in Greek. They both continued to argue, but now both were arguing in Greek.
Just when some of you lawyers thought you had a pithy repertoire in Latin, you discover there’s another show in town who not only can quote the Greek philosophers, but can do it using the nuance of the Greek language as well as emotion.
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Probably the best comment of this thread, if only for being a good story
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Nuance is dead. Tribalism reigns.
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And folks wonder how things got so fucked up. Riddles, talking in circles, afraid to speak directly, allowing others to decide what can be said, or not. Such arrogant bull shit, and pretenders.
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84+ comments on this post. Proof we are all bored out of our skulls and have to much time on our hands. I get that some may be offended by his tweet, but I don’t think he was trying to be racist or insensitive. SJW can go fuck themselves.
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