The coronavirus isn’t fan friendly.

The man who helped run the USFL into the ground has some advice for sports owners.

Of course, he also hoped to have everyone out of their houses by Easter, so there’s no reason to take that to the bank.

But he’s hardly alone in that sentiment.  Take Sam Pittman, for instance.

During a recent appearance on Little Rock-based 103.7 radio show “The Buzz” hosted by John Nabors, Pittman was asked if he’s given any thought to not playing football in 2020.

“No. Absolutely not. I never thought about it one time. No. No,” Pittman firmly stated.

“I don’t know if my mind won’t let me think about it but no. We have to stay safe, we have to do the right thing, the country needs college football. So, no, I haven’t thought about it. Obviously, we’ll do whatever they tell us to do but we’ll also be ready whenever they tell us to go, but no, that would be a sad situation and, of course, so is this virus, I understand – I’m not comparing the two by any stretch, but no, I haven’t really thought about it.”

“We have to stay safe, we have to do the right thing, the country needs college football” is the perfect encapsulation for our times.  Which is how you get to this stage:

The yearning among fans for sports’ reappearance collides with reality. The U.S. Tennis Association said this week that it still plans to stage the U.S. Open as scheduled from late August through mid-September in New York. The site of the tournament, Billie Jean King National Tennis Center in Flushing Meadows, is being converted to a temporary hospital.

Cognitive dissonance, thy name is American sports.

It’s easy to sit back now and advise caution.  The statistical evidence is grim in the short term.  The tricky part comes this summer.

U.S. experts said opening stadiums in this country would be among the last stages of lifting pandemic-related restrictions. The first step would be letting people go back to work, with social distancing still in place. Travel restrictions would thaw. Only after those changes could authorities consider allowing stadiums to open.

The best-case scenario, Winslow said, is that social distancing and other restrictive measures combined with higher temperatures lead to a dramatic decrease in cases by late May.

“That would potentially give public-health people the incentive to at least consider starting to relax these restrictions,” Winslow said. “That would mean allowing potentially sporting events and concerts and that sort of thing to happen by the early fall.”

Even if the seasonal change provides relief, it may be temporary. The 1918 flu pandemic diminished over the summer, then returned in the fall and lasted into 1919.

“The public health and epidemiologists are saying, ‘The biggest tragedy we could have would be if we think we’ve got a handle on this and we’re still going to have whatever the projection is — it may be 100,000 deaths — and we allow people to go back to normal everyday life and then infections happen again,’ ” Evans said. “That kind of slow rollout back to normalcy is going to be something that’s difficult for everyone.”

I don’t know about you, but Doctors Sankey and McGarity giving us the all clear in August to join 70,000 others in Mercedes Benz Stadium to watch Georgia play Virginia doesn’t exactly make me want to rush out and buy a ticket.  How about you?

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  1. Biggen

    Its time to put the economy back together. How long do people realistically think we can stay shut down for Christ’s sake? I’m having to pay employees out of pocket right now for them to stay home and have been doing so for 3 weeks now. This can not continue.

    The CARES Act “stimulus” is no where in sight. Yeah we have applied for it as have thousands/millions of other businesses but NO ONE has been paid a dime.

    There are real dark times ahead if the economy doesn’t open back up with the next month. The Chinese virus will be the least of our worries.

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    • Seriously, how does that work right now? There’s no vaccine and our public health system is close to crashing.

      Do the healthy folks just step around the sick on their way to the cash register to check out?

      Not being snarky here — how do you see it playing out if you just tell everyone go back to the way it was?

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      • Derek

        Just think of the economic boom for funeral homes if we just act as if there’s nothing to worry about!

        Invest in formaldehyde today!!!

        Think of what we can save in social security and Medicare if we kill all these old folks off quickly!!

        The disease of humanity can’t be allowed to be more costly than the cure of greed.

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      • Normaltown Mike

        Older folks and those with compromised immune systems should self quarantine until a vaccine is developed (unless they don’t mind risking death).

        Healthy people that want to quarantine (and can afford to not work indefinitely) can do so as well.

        “Flattening the curve” is a nice temporary strategy but it’s not going to solve Covid.

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        • Derek

          and if more people end up in the hospital than they have room for then, well, fuck it.

          The point is $ > people, always.

          Usually we do it slowly, almost without notice, with pollution and chemicals, etc… But we can also do it quickly when the time calls. Inhumane greed is a flexible value system.

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          • Anonymous

            You have this completely wrong. The issue here is that people like you care more about feeling self-righteous than they care about people.

            Biggen at least seems concerned about the welfare of his employees and the overall citizenry. You seem concerned with nothing more than trying to score political points and virtue-signaling about “muh evil Republicans”, but you didn’t do much else before the pandemic.

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        • Cojones

          “Flattening the curve”, meaning that the infection RATE is not going up as fast as it was, is not a temporary measure. It means that you have slowed the roll long enough to get an advantage if you work fast and courageously. It doesn’t mean that you can lick this, simply because it will continue to reemerge in the future.

          Shortsightedness has become our temporary enemy and all of us should strive for the solution before it kills your aging family members. If you can’t think that way, then there is nothing that can reach you in time for you to be part of the solution.

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          • Normaltown Mike

            “all of us should strive for the solution before it kills your aging family members. If you can’t think that way, then there is nothing that can reach you in time for you to be part of the solution”

            My mother (who has a blood cancer) is alive because she is not leaving her home and not accepting visitors, me included. Cancelling 4H camp for middle school kids and closing down the mall has no bearing on her health.

            It’s absolutely a tragedy that old people with underlying illnesses are dying. In a few cases, middle aged people without health issues also die. Sheltering in place for 18 months (as has frequently been advanced by public health officials) makes no sense.

            https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

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            • Paul

              Except that it’s not just old people with underlying health conditions that are dying. Perfectly healthy young people are dying as well.

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            • Cojones

              How long before the kids go to the mall and bring it home? Sensitized people wish to know.

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              • Normaltown Mike

                Cojones: I assume you’re just trolling but my comments were sincere. If you are worried about the Covid virus, don’t leave your home, don’t have guests. I wish you well.

                Those people that want to go on with life, and risk death, will make their own choices while the world waits for a vaccine. The summer might chase it away temporarily, but the expectation is that the coming fall and winter will bring it back.

                This isn’t complex.

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      • Granthams replacement

        Some local healthcare systems are overburdened. A large majority of the US health system is not.

        The US is in the early stages of dealing with covid19. Effective treatments, vaccines, and hot weather are on the way. Everyone sitting around getting constant covid19 bad news creates speculation the world is ending. Covid19 isn’t smallpox or Black Death.

        I’ll be in the stadium when Georgia plays Virgina.

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          • Granthams replacement

            “This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” Dr. Fauci told Newsmax’s Greg Kelly on January 21.

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            • Derek

              There seems to be an accurate timing element in that statement.

              But if we’re quoting people, lets go to the top:

              “You call it germ, you can call it a flu. You can call it a virus. You can call it many different names. I’m not sure anybody knows what it is.”

              Marmalade Mussolini
              3/27/20

              That’s comforting ain’t it?

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            • ASEF

              “Right now.”

              On Jan 21, that was an accurate statement for citizens, which was his answer.

              It was also the official position of his employer, the White House.

              He changed his tune the next week. Everyone else around him took until mid-March.

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              • Granthams replacement

                So he must be 100% correct this time, since he was 100% wrong in January.

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                • ASEF

                  Trump was wrong on numerous occasions all the way into early March. Are you dismissing him now too?

                  Thought not.

                  The medical consensus on this thing is that it spreads like wildfire and boosts its kill rate dramatically by overwhelming local resources. We’re seeing that play out all over the world.

                  I want to see sports again, but first things first.

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                • Derek

                  At least he takes no responsibility and he’s always accurate:

                  “We’re going very substantially down, not up. … We have it so well under control. I mean, we really have done a very good job.”

                  2/26/20

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                • gastr1

                  It’s quite remarkable how Trump can be wrong about 27 times a day and folks don’t care. Absolutely keeping score on everyone else’s wrongs. though, natch.

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                • Derek

                  Standards are important to hold other people to.

                  Just as important is not having any standards for yourselves.

                  That way you can say things like this:

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                • Derek

                  Wrong once is wrong forever even if I abuse the statement of which I’m complaining.

                  Socrates

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        • “Some local healthcare systems are overburdened. A large majority of the US health system is not.”

          Not yet, and thanks to social distancing hopefully not ever. But, the policy you are advocating would certainly lead to overwhelming the health system throughout the country.

          The Imperial College study that led to changes in UK and US policy estimated that doing nothing would cause a need for ~276 critical care beds per 100,000 people. The number they estimated could be brought online was 8.

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          • Granthams replacement

            My “system” was I’m planning on going to a footballl game in 5 months while a lot of smart scientists are working to develop a vaccine/cure for covid19. I’m also following the governor’s shelter in place as we all should until 4/13.

            The imperical college forecasts are like South Carolina message boards forecast of heisman winners.

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            • “The imperical college forecasts are like South Carolina message boards forecast of heisman winners.”

              That’s a remarkably ignorant thing to say. The Imperial College report was not just some random study. In addition to being among the best epidemiologists in the world, that group plays a key role in advising the UK government. The models they used are basically the same ones that informed the original “herd immunity” policy. They put in the specific details for Covid-19 and saw that the existing policy would be a disaster. So, they changed course. That’s precisely how smart science should inform decision making.

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      • DawgByte

        Have you read the Coronavirus guidelines? Do you know what social distancing means? Have you ever seen plastic gloves? Don’t have a N95 mask? Wear a scarf and glasses. Wash your hands frequently. Wipe down products you buy from the store with Clorox wipes.

        However, for those of you who put all their faith and weight in the authority of the U.N. – send Chinese diplomats letters demanding China outlaw ‘Wet Markets’. Those assholes are right back to BAU on Wet Markets with no new sanitation guidelines. They’re stacking exotic animals right on top of chickens and ducks again. Marvelous! The next deadly strain of flu virus will most assuredly come from China, because they haven’t figured out the benefits of Western style super market.

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  2. DawgByte

    I was at Twickenham the second Saturday in March to see Wales vs England. The stadium was packed 80K+ people. I’m well past self-quarantine with no symptoms.

    All decisions about future sporting events and the return to BAU should be based on accurately reported data. Trend lines for contracting the virus should go down significantly, death rates going down and recovery numbers going up. That said, life cannot wait for those numbers to go down to 0 before we get back to ‘normal’. Like other forms of viruses and disease, people will have to live with a certain amount of risk.

    Regarding a $2.2T stimulus, only a FOOL would think they’d get a check so soon after the bill was just passed. Just like fools who thought accurate test kits could be manufactured out of thin air and produced overnight. People wake up and get some common sense!

    Oh, and we could do with a little less hysteria!!!

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  3. Ozam

    So allowing people earn a living to put food on there table is greed? Whatever.

    We better pray that a cure is found soon and/or the economy is put in gear. Civilized society operates on as pretty thin line.

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    • Derek

      And no one thinks of the economic benefits of having less mouths at that table. Whatever indeed!!

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      • Ozam

        The capitalistic system you call greedy, is the exact same one our civilised society depends upon to come up with new drugs, etc.

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        • Derek

          Louis Pasteur and Jonas Salk did it for the bling!

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          • Nashville West

            No. But Salk’s research facilities were at a private university and funded by a private foundation. Both of those were paid for by rich capitalists.

            The Pasteur Institute is a private non-profit also funded by rich capitalists.

            Maybe they weren’t in it for the “bling” but the people who paid for their research supported charity and bought a little less bling with their money. Maybe a good example for all of us.

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            • Derek

              If what you’re saying is that capitalism is good because it allows for the creation of wealth that can be then transferred for purposes that benefit society as a whole then you’re some sort of leftist loony.

              True capitalism is about wealth for the wealthy and fuck everyone who doesn’t have it.

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              • spur21

                Good grief Derek.

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                • Derek

                  Thanks for saying nothing of any import. You do it so well.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  These fucking fuckers dare to question the authoritarian government necessary to keep us safe from the single greatest threat since history began in 2007. Only a total idiot would think that the world economy benefits anyone except Republican donors. The rest of us say, “burn it down.” For our own good, of course.

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        • Cojones

          I have good friends in the ethical pharmaceutical business who take issue with that statement. And at this moment most are working overtime for free to see that you get a cure, that without their efforts, you surely will die from ignorance. Yep, a business has to make money to stay in business, but the researchers that you know nothing about are your mainstay for avoiding an early demise and they don’t run the business part. The suits up front run the business and most that I’ve known have never picked up a test tube in their life.

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      • Cosmic Dawg

        Most of us arguing for more targeted quarantine guidelines are not trying to save the jobs of millionaires but save the single mom who works the counter at a car dealership, the local comic shop owner, etc.

        This is going to be the biggest wealth transfer from the lower middle class and working poor to the rich this country has ever seen, as plentiful workers become price takers and get moved into corporate jobs, as those with resources to weather the storm gain customers from small businesses who could not.

        We are $23 trillion in debt but have apparently spent zero of those dollars to put a federal plan/supplies in place for a pandemic. 15 years after Katrina and with countless warning flags. One of the few actual legit duties of the federal govt and another predictable fail.
        Inexcusable.

        But govt experts are brilliant and capitalism is to blame because a very cooperative and civic-minded people nevertheless want to keep their businesses they’ve worked all their lives for and pay their workers and feed their families and would prefer the govt make some effort to use a scalpel vs a bazooka with their guidelines?

        Got it.

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        • ugalestat1

          This exactly. No one is saying that we shouldn’t be mindful of the situation at hand and protect yourself as well as possible. Just because people want to open their business doesn’t mean they are saying BAU and don’t worry about the spread of the virus. Why does it have to be one or the other? And no I am not a business owner I am employed by the power company and my wife works for a another essential industry. WE ARE practicing the shelter in place personally, working from home and only going out for essentials. We are also still paying folks we employ to help with our normal day to day life even though we have asked they not come do what we pay them for during this time. We are fortunate to have these “essential” jobs and still getting paid. We have a great country that allows folks to make a living by providing services/products on their own volition and many Americans choose to do so, this shut down will destroy many lives as well if it continues.

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          • spur21

            An unchecked deadly virus that spreads exponentially has the potential to destroy far more than an economy that is teetering.

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            • ugalestat1

              Again, no one says to not take the necessary precautions when out. The issue is not allowing folks that make their living. It is very easy to sit back and be all in on shutting down when your income is not affected.

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              • Cojones

                Would you please blame the disease for the position that you are in? I would ask that the precautions you take are of the quality that saves other lives as well as your own. We don’t know who are carriers and they don’t either.

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                • ugalestat1

                  Go back and read my post and tell me where I am not taking the precautions that saves lives. I AM AT HOME AND HAVE BEEN FOR 3 WEEKS, I can afford to because I can work from home. Others aren’t as fortunate is all I am saying, you just can’t turn a blind eye to economics because you(and I mean you in general) don’t have that problem.

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  Exactly. Why blame the people who refuse to allow folks to earn a living? We all know that politicians only grab for power as a last resort. If some people have to lose everything in the name of flattening the curve, that’s a price our benevolent overlords, who won’t be personally affected, are willing to pay. God bless them.

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  4. sniffer

    Any event that draws thousands (hundreds?) of people will likely have no concession operations, usher services and the like. Ticket processing will be automated or electronic. We will learn to gather with little support staff. In the near term, I could see patrons sitting in every other seat with an empty one in between. It’s going to be a brave new world. Oh, don’t forget to bring your own mask. They’ll be available with a Power G over your mouth but cost $49.

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  5. Cojones

    It is arrogant for many to comment on getting the economy rolling again when they are not getting hurt as Biggen and many other business owners currently are. Convincing people to change their actions now is as difficult as having a draft and telling young men to go out and kill or be killed because of broken leadership failing to seek solutions diplomatically. Sometimes everyone just wants to go out and fight because they are fed up with the status quo that they have been led to believe exists by ineffectual leaders who are struggling to hold power.

    It also is arrogant to force an economic agenda into a pandemic infection that has no regard for your individual difficulty. Whenever we consider the hurt we all have as individuals while we shelter indoors similar to the past great fears of the unknown, we must look beyond our own selfish interests to pull together as a society that works to the betterment of all.

    Our thoughts and actions should now be focused on those among us who are not just communicating about this crisis but also are out interfacing with death in order to promote the better good. Our medical family and friends are not sheltering like the rest of us and are out there helping us all to increase the odds to conquer this pandemic. That reality takes precedence over all else. We cannot let those who are getting sick and dying while sacrificing their health and the health of their families and loved ones do this as a select group while we worry about our own lives and ability to help others to live economically. We just can’t. That would not only be a failure of courage but one of intellect as well.

    We all are up to our eyeballs in this and the decisions won’t get any better when we begin to debate who should get a vaccine earlier and debating how many to place in danger for the good of the economy that supports our way of living. And our way of living may get changed whether we like it or not. There are many unimaginable scenarios that we will continue to encounter before we are finished and we must prepare for those upcoming decisions that may affect our lives a great deal more than a fractured economy will. Brace yourselves for an extension to the stay-in-place that will go to the end of July. Because of our late start fighting the pandemic, no planning can go in place for action until the friggin’ infection curve flattens, not just bends a little.

    The Senator has brought up a concurrent danger that our social infrastructure for medical help, police help plus firemen unable to go to a raging fire because they all are sick. Those crises will vary from city-state to city-state and affect us all differently according to how this virus gets a chance to move geographically. Biggen, we feel your pain and we now ask you to feel everyone’s pain when we pull together for the betterment of our neighbor’s life at this point in American history. This viral reality has no argument, it just faces us while we try to figure out what move to make next. Sometimes it feels more encouraging when we consider that we are all Dawgs together facing a common enemy, but we are just a small cog of fandom who all want sports to help us forget this ordeal and it just is too early to even contemplate.

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    • ASEF

      Exactly. The price of opening back up falls on the backs of first responders, health care professionals, police, and those sorts of services.

      Countries with near-normals right now executed very differently than we did. Aggressive early testing and tracking. Find out who has it and where. Give citizens some information to base decisions.

      Spent a ton of money up front on testing and tracking but saved themselves so much more on the back end.

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    • DawgByte

      Everyone is suffering, not just small businesses. I was merely pointing out how ridiculous it is to think one would get a check so quickly after a bill has passed. There’s a lot of interagency and private sector mechanisms that must quickly spin up to handle the increased load. This will take time.

      Putting one’s faith in the Federal government to deliver quickly and efficiently during a time of crisis is not wise.

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    • spur21

      Good post Cojones but you could have saved time by saying “buy ammo” .

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  6. Cojones

    Y’all better start your Victory Gardens about now.

    For the benefit of Yankees, I was going to place a sign in my garden warning that “one of these vegetable plants contains strychnine”, but a reality-minded Southerner may come by and mark through “one” and write “two”.

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  7. ASEF

    The information rate on Covid-19 is exponential right now. What we know about it and what to do about it seems to double weekly.

    Which makes future casting just wish fulfillment. Maybe something in our current drug stock mitigates the virus considerably. Maybe something new gets developed and into mass production – but that would have to surface fast to be widely available by August.

    We don’t even know how many people this thing is actually killing, because dead bodies in a lot of places aren’t being tested due to test scarcity.. As an example: In northern Italy, the town of Nembro recorded 31 deaths from the virus from January to March. But Mayor Claudio Cancelli recently said the total number of deceased in that time period — 158 — was four times higher than the average for that time of year.

    We’re already seeing that play out in the States.

    Meaning what we don’t know about the disease is still a massive problem. No way Sankey or someone in a similar position green lights anything with that much unknown hanging over them.

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  8. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    Watched Bill Gates on Trevor Noah’s show about the pandemic. No, Bill is not a virologist, but his foundation has been fighting pandemics in Africa for years now, so he has a little experience. What he said that was without a vaccine – and we are a year away from that – packing people into stadiums is just asking for trouble, and will be one of the last things to return to normal.

    Psychologically, I am preparing myself for no football this fall. The only thing that might happen is they might let the MacGill Society folks in as long as seats are assigned 6 feet apart. 😉 I keed, I keed, I think.

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    • ASEF

      With a “leg stretching, elbow room” premium to the price, right? 😉

      For a low, low and dicounted price, you can now buy six seats all to yourself – for the price of 4!

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    • Cojones

      Good post, Dylan. Think you would have liked the photo from WWII that was on my Facebook this morning. It was of a soldier walking through a field with other soldiers, but this one was carrying a donkey piggy-back. It seems they were in a minefield and the donkey was free to walk anywhere and blow everyone else up, so, the soldier carried it rather than risk everyone’s life with a dumb animal that likes to wander all over.

      Donkeys are gonna’ walk all over without thinking and sometimes we have to carry them to get through this coronavirus minefield.

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  9. spur21

    Comparing our response (or lack there of) to countries with one quarter of our population is not productive.

    Probably the most needed item now is accurate testing for the entire population which will not happen by Aug of this year and likely not by Aug of 2021. Without accurate testing we are pissing in the wind and hoping our shoes stay dry.

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    • I really hate it when people say we can do it “just like country X” . We run the worlds machine, we have the most diverse population (not just race, but every form of diversity), we have a huge chuck of earth, a large population, a massive military, that, at the least keeps Russia and China slightly in check.

      The only way that works for us is the way it works for us. Kinda like people said “well in Korea…” Korea is a full time at war nation for 70 years creating an entirely different mindset, its the size of a Texas county, and it has been massively propped up by American money. Let me know when Korea kicks few hundred billion our way.

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  10. TN Dawg

    No one REALLY thinks it’s unsafe out there.

    They all think it’s perfectly safe for the shelf stockers at Kroger’s, the factory workers at 3M, truck drivers, chicken processors at Tyson, utility workers, etc. to go out and work, most of the time for less than $12 an hour.

    They’ll tell you that’s fine because those are “essential” jobs. But is it really essential for a farm hand or factory worker to supply your goods? Not really. It’s only essential for him to go to the factory and make a mask for himself and his own family. It’s only essential for him to make toilet paper for his own ass. It’s only essential for him to pluck chickens for his own dinner, not mine.

    Let factory workers, farm workers, truckers, utility workers, nurses, doctors and other folks start adopting the attitude of “its too dangerous out there to be going outside” and you’ll see the attitudes change rather quickly.

    It’s easy to tell everyone to shelter in place, so long as there are plenty of bananas on the shelf and it doesn’t interrupt my life. It appears those that claim “it’s too dangerous” are mighty supportive of “its not that bad” when it comes to risking the lives of supply chain workers. That kid working at WalMart putting your Doritos on the shelf for $10.50 an hour is exposed to 25,000 people a day, and nobody seems all that concerned.

    So either people are full of it or they are mighty quick to volunteer somebody else’s altruism.

    Kinda makes you wonder, if courtroom lawyer is a non-essential job and lettuce farmer is an essential job, why the hell aren’t their salaries reversed?

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    • Derek

      I thought lawyers would be declared “expendable,” but in fact lawyers have been declared “essential.”

      I think you are suggesting that its a value judgment to risk farm hands and not risk hair dressers.

      That’s not really it. The whole idea is to slow the spread so that the system can keep up.

      We need to eat today. We don’t need a haircut today.

      That’s the difference.

      We should thank all of those who have to take risks to keep society going even beyond first responders and the medical community.

      There are millions of poor anonymous saps risking everything so that those who are sheltering in place can survive out of harms way. That is very true and we shouldn’t forget it.

      But keep in mind that Trump would prefer it if you gave him all the gratitude that they all deserve.

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    • The entire rule set is non sensical right now. I cant even go sit on a friends private beach. That’s illegal. But 2000 people a day through Walmart with all the grab assing is fine.

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  11. Chris

    This corona hoax will hopefully be considered the high water mark of the pussification of America.

    My bet it’s not going to be though. Like lambs to the slaughter. What a grand experiment it has been.

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    • Derek

      1300 dead hoaxters yesterday alone. Nearly 10k dead american hoaxes total so far.

      I suppose that the brain dead aren’t as susceptible to it as we all might wish.

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    • ASEF

      Three times as many dead as 9/11 and you call it “pussification?”

      Did your brain stop developing at age 11?

      Grow. The. Fuck. Up.

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    • Yikes. It’s bad when you make Derek seem reasonable.

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    • Russ

      The world. It’s the pussification of the world. Get it right. The entire planet is in on this hoax. Heck, they even fooled that pussy Putin.

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    • Chris

      You all are puppets in game you don’t even get to play in…

      We are at 7,800 deaths after 2 months in a country of 350 million people and the vast majority are over 65 years old. Data out of Italy modeled that over 80% of deaths would have died of something else in the next year. There is a 0.05% mortality rate for those under 45 who contract COVID. Over 55,000 a year die of the flu in the US in any year. Still hard to believe we are creating an economic depression for these numbers.

      Sad!

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  12. Cojones

    This is a novel coronavirus and that means it’s like no other. Just gave my puppy her 3rd shot of 5 in 1 vaccine that contains a coronavirus vaccine. It won’t work on us because it’s a different genetic makeup and it took some time to perfect it for dogs. Add to that the factors of safety and efficacy when testing and we can’t shortcut the vaccine availability procedure at that point. Think how we will feel and respond when the vaccine is ready, but we have to wait for those factors to check out. People will be bouncing off the walls.

    Why should I type such negative info here? Because, if we take the confusion coming from a slow start in trying to make people do the right thing by distancing, then place that beside the confusing crud coming from politicians-in-charge that slowed this enough to cause unnecesssary deaths, the steps we will require to take waiting for vaccine testing will cause more angst out of ignorance. Forewarned is forearmed.

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    • TN Dawg

      They really should force every other dog to be kept in the house to protect your vulnerable puppy.

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      • Cojones

        They need to keep their dog in their house or kept comfortable while tied up outside or, down here at least, a gator will eat them before a week is over.
        The scat from wild animals also holds disease that can get to my puppy. I vaccinate her to prevent getting some of the diseases that are present when, while eating my dog’s poo, they drop a scat filled with worms, Parvo and an Adenovirus or two.

        Why am I mentioning this? Because those same groups of viruses have human viruses as well that can endanger us from only one or two mutations away. These are statements of fact as to what most people are ignorant and, until now, haven’t wanted to know about. And don’t get me started on antibiotic resistance that can be passed from one organism possessing 30 antibiotic resistance factors to another organism that possesses none. There are at least 6 differing ways/mechanisms for this to happen. You don’t want to know the data produced from assaying hospital waste for resistant microbes and that has been known since the ’60s.

        Point is, what we don’t know and are still learning while fighting this virus, provides reason enough to shelter from person-to-person contact in order to stop it’s spread such that we may entertain watching cfb again as soon as possible. Now that you know there are worse scenarios that could be in play, you should be encouraging yourself and loved ones to stay in place to get this over with asap.

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  13. mp

    The problem with the China argument is it does not help us get out of the current predicament. They lied. They are an evil regime. So what? How does that help me today?

    We still don’t have leadership that is charting a path to normalcy. As others have pointed out, flattening the curve is just buying the healthcare system time so it doesn’t get overrun. Repeated, universal testing of the (apparently) healthy and sick alike, both for the virus and for antibodies, and aggressive quarantining are the next steps until we have treatment and vaccine. It would be refreshing to hear that from any leaders. Sheltering in place by itself isn’t a plan that gets us where we need to be on a health or economic basis.

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  14. jt10mc (the other one)

    Well…the President did state “hope”. USFL or not…no one can deny he is a pretty dang good businessman.

    That said…hope ain’t a plan.

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