Not in the cards

David Hale returns to his roots:

Few coaches have been cursed by “what if” more than Mark Richt. What if Rex Grossman hadn’t carved up his defense in 2002? What if D.J. Shockley hadn’t gotten hurt just before the Florida game in 2005? What if Steve Spurrier hadn’t pulled the massive upset in Athens in 2007, the year Georgia finished No. 2 in the polls? But, of course, no what-if looms larger than the one in 2012, when Aaron Murray’s pass was deflected and caught by Chris Conley at the 5-yard line, running out the clock on the Bulldogs’ comeback attempt against Alabama in the SEC championship game. A loss by the Tide wouldn’t have done much to change Nick Saban’s legacy, but boy would that win have altered how we view Richt. A Georgia victory likely sends the Bulldogs to the national championship game, where a less talented Notre Dame would’ve been the last obstacle to a trophy. Instead, assuming he never coaches again, Richt will take his place in the pantheon of greatest coaches never to win a national title, alongside Frank Beamer, Pat Dye and Bo Schembechler. Ah, what might’ve been.

Sometimes, I wonder if there’s a quiet time or two when Richt sits and ponders why he came up on the short end of the stick so many times.

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  1. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    I’m sure if he’s honest with himself, he’ll acknowledge it’s because he was never meticulous enough to win in this era of CFB. He never sweated the details. Whether it was recruiting, practice practices, game and clock management, Mark Richt never worried about or stressed over the minute details a head coach must if he is going to will his team to a National Title. He learned under Bobby Bowden, a coach known for never sweating the details.

    Also, if we’re honest with ourselves, we can also acknowledge that Richt was never the same coach after his wife’s successful battle with cancer. I can’t imagine the worry and stress that would come with something like that. It likely tested the boundaries of his faith, if he has boundaries. And we should never hold that against him, either. His priorities shifted, and that’s okay. The only issues was he was still the head coach at Georgia when maybe he should’ve taken another line of work.

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    • DawgPhan

      This is honestly the worst part. The folks that will never miss a chance to claim that Richt’s faith or his wife’s battle with cancer caused Georgia to come up short.

      It’s just such a horrible take and it is always brought up.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I think where people go wrong there is they allow their frustration to not be able to articulate a more logical response. Like I said, it’s perfectly understandable that what happened led Richt to reexamine his role as UGA’s head coach and attempt to do some things differently. However, after a few years it became clear that doing things differently, being an absentee head coach in many ways, wasn’t cutting it, then he should’ve retired. Richt’s problem is he made the understandable decision to lesson football’s impact on his life, but then stubbornly refused to see that decision meant he shouldn’t be the head coach at a place like Georgia. So while I get his decision, I also understand why people are frustrated by him holding onto a job that he wasn’t able to commit to in a way that was expected.

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      • Agreed that it is a lazy take. Saban and Urban outworked him, especially on the recruiting trail, then he made one disastrous DC hire and one meh one.

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      • Larry R Butler

        Sadly true, DawgPhan.

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    • Chi-town Dawg

      Agree with all your points and I would add poor roster management to the list of shortcomings.

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  2. There’s something to be said for creating your own luck, but Richt had a lot of bad luck. He had at least 3 teams good enough to win the NC.

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    • Spike

      Agreed,bryan.. He/We just had some tough breaks along the way. I’m sure in CMR’s heart of hearts it eats at him, as it does all of us. What might have been, indeed.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      He also had a TON of good luck as well, as both UT and UF we’re mostly struggling if not flat out down during his halcyon years of ’02-’07 (hell, UT is still down). Bama also was a total mess of a program during that time, and AU was involved in ongoing palace intrigue to get rid of Tubberville. As a result, UGA faced Arkansas and a mediocre at best coached LSU team in the SECC in ’02 and ’05.

      Over time, as programs got their act together, they started to run circles around CMR, and Richt’s record vs ranked teams in his final 8 years at UGA was something like 13-27. That’s not just bad, that’s pathetic. And yes, I do agree that CMR took his foot off the pedal big time starting around ’07-08.

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      • Respectfully disagree. LSU was 03′ and 05′ (Arkansas was 02′). That 2003 LSU team was anything but mediocre. They were 13-1 and won the natty. Probably the second best LSU team of the modern era, only eclipsed this past year.

        The 05′ team was 11-1 entering the SEC title game, the only loss coming to UT in OT during a fluky Monday night Katrina makeup game. They were favored against us in the SECCG.

        Tennessee was 39-13 (.750) during Mark Richt’s first 4 seasons. He was a(the?) major architect of their demise.

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  3. WF Dawg

    If Richt doesn’t think about it, I know I do, enough for both of us.

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  4. Texas Dawg

    Two thinks stuck out for me here.
    1) As time goes on, you forget how tantalizingly close Richt was to winning it all. His tenure was marked with with bad luck at the worst possible time and head scratching losses to inferior opponents at the worst possible time.
    2) I was surprised to see that Bo Schembechler never won a NC

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  5. Ben

    There was so much that went wrong in that 02 UF game, it’s like all of the misfortune of a season happened there.

    0 for 13 on 3rd downs? A brain fart where Pollack sent a fumble on a forward lateral? George Foster’s terrible personal foul? And a false start by, I think, Watson on the goal line?

    So many people still want to pin that loss on Edwards (I’ve never seen it attributed to Grossman), but it was a total team failure that day.

    And 2005? That was the year Auburn had that LONG completion at the end, fumbled into the end zone, and milled the clock from there. I don’t remember everything from that year, but winning then might have made a difference, too.

    I’m with y’all. I think about those years much more than is healthy for a grown man who has a family.

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    • Derek

      That was NOT a lateral.

      Edwards should have caught the damn ball. I’ve seen him catch them upside down one handed. No one was within 15 yards of him.

      Crazy thing about that auburn play was that tra battle was unconscious and no one knew it. He blitzed from his safety spot and it left the receiver wide open. Then Paul chases it down and knocks it out. If it goes out of the end zone we win. Instead it dies in the corner of the ez.

      Still not convicted that the 1980 stolen pig bbq wasn’t some sort of ritual “deal with the devil” that we’re still paying for.

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    • The Dawg abides

      I’ve always suspected we’d have been extremely frustrated if the team had managed to go undefeated in 2005. I just don’t see how we make it to the title game over undefeated USC and Texas. There was so much hype over those two programs all year.

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    • Dawg19

      Another thing about that 2002 Cocktail Party was that Fred Gibson and Damien Gary were both out with injuries (if I remember right). No way Florida covers both of those guys all game. That game still stands out as the most disappointing loss I’ve ever witnessed as a Dawg fan. I couldn’t sleep for a week.

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    • Think Fred Gibson was injured before or our and we lost another starter wr (Reggie brown? ) During the game.

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  6. Charlottedawg

    Richt would and should have been let go after 2015 even if Murray completes the pass to Mitchell in the end zone. Had Georgia won the 2012 sec championship, it would have been an upset as the Delta between the two programs was waaay more than 5 yards. Don’t forget had ogletree not blocked the field goal for a touchdown the key storyline of the game is bama running the ball down our throats in the second half and there was nothing towel boy could do about it.

    Mark richt elevated our program to new heights when he took over but his lack of attention to detail and drive in the latter half of his tenure prevented him from realistically competing with the top programs.

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    • mp

      I remain convinced that part of the reason they ran the ball down UGA’s throat is because the defense was so gassed after back to back Bama drives due to the blocked field goal, ironically enough.

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  7. Finn

    Spurrier… in Athens … 2007? Huh??

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Are you pretending like you don’t know, or are you actually ignorant of the fact that Steve Spurrier coached both Florida and South Carolina?

      I was sitting in the West Endzone student section and saw Stafford’s perfect pass bound off of Trip Stonehands Chander’s hands in the final drive to suck all hope out of the building as Mark Richt allowed the second worst SEC team in 2007, Spurrier’s Gamecocks, who would only win one other SEC game that year, to beat us.

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      • Derek

        Wrong receiver. It was Tony Wilson #26.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          I was sitting there. The pass bounced off Tripp Chandler’s hands. In the end zone. We were on like, the 7 or 5 yard line.

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          • Derek

            I was too. You’re wrong.

            We threw to chandler on 2nd and 15 from the 24 or so with just under 5 to play down 16-9. It went through Tripps hands. A rocket. Had he caught it we’d have been 3rd and 4 to 5 at around the 8 or so. On 3rd down, stafford threw a beauty to 26. It hit him in both hands at the one. 26 bobbled it and got nailed at the goal line and the ball fell to the ground. Then we kicked a fg. Tripp did have a bad drop at the 50 on the last drive.

            You can suffer through the whole thing on youtube if you like. But you’re wrong.

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  8. rchris

    Yes Richt elevated our program to new heights and we shouldn’t forget. He inherited a team that had had a couple of 8-4’s, and after getting his feet wet, took them higher than that in all but a very few seasons. He was a very good, but not great coach, like Dooley, and better than any other coach we’ve had.

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  9. I gotta say (again, over and over) I looooove me some CMR.

    I was sad to see him pushed out the way he was, even though I could readily admit his faults and wish he’d done this, that and the other differently.

    I think if I could have my choice between firing him and keeping him for another 15 years, regardless of the results, it would have been “better” all around if he’d stayed. I honestly think he would have eventually gotten the Natty if he ended up staying at UGA as HC for a total of 30 years. But even if he hadn’t, I think I would have liked to see him for that long.

    That being said, I think Smart was an incredible hire and I think he’s doing great things. And don’t look for me to label him a “failure” if he never wins a Natty at UGA. As long as he puts an emphasis on building character in young men, and being classy and in compliance with regs, I’m cool with him. He’s proving to be an excellent all-around coach, one of the best recruiters of all time, and good at convincing great coaches to coach alongside him… blah blah, everyone knows his positives.

    What will be interesting to see is what happens to UGA football if Kirby spends 15 years as HC but never wins a Natty. But he’s got eleven more years. And I think he’ll get it done…. but what if he doesn’t? Are we going to ditch him because he just can’t “get over the hump”?

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over and over and over again, and each time expecting a different result.

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    • Derek

      We got lucky that things got better. That is an atypical result when you fire a successful coach. I didn’t want to hire OR fire Richt. I was wrong both times.

      I think if CMR could recruit like Kirby he would have had several natties. But he didn’t and there is no reason to think he ever would.

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    • mddawg

      I also think that Kirby will get it done, hopefully sooner rather than later. But if he doesn’t, I’m guessing a lot of the fan opinion will depend on how he falls short. Losing to an eventual-national-champion caliber team isn’t exactly shameful. Even getting blown out by a historically great team, while certainly not fun, isn’t an unforgivable sin by itself.

      I was and continue to be a fan of Mark Richt, but there always seemed to be some hole that needed plugging, and whenever he fixed one, another would spring up somewhere else. I think some of that is evident in the comments from other posters here who reference him not sweating the details enough. There seems to be less of that on Kirby’s watch so far, and I’ve got to believe it will pay off in the end.

      I also think it’s important that we not take for granted what Smart’s already accomplished. Winning the SEC East 3 times in a row, and taking home the title in one of those 3 tries, is no small feat.

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  10. And then there is “one play away Ray”!

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  11. Hobnail_Boot

    He doesn’t even mention 9/20/03 in Baton Rouge where Billy Bennett missed 3 FGs and Greene fumbled deep in LSU territory. That game still haunts me.

    Win that one and we face Ole Miss in the Dome for a shot at a title.

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  12. spur21

    Why do so many of you spend so much time looking back? It’s history – good times are ahead – embrace the future and let go of the past.

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  13. Former Fan

    What if TE catches that ball. CMR was one play away from a national title several times. Wish that play had been made at least once.

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  14. Hogbody Spradlin

    What if Vandy (or was it Kentucky’s) field goal attempt dribbles over the friggin cross bar against Tennessee in 07?

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    • St Louis Dawg

      Vandy. Kentucky was the one where they had 1st and goal at the 5 with 15 seconds left down 3…ran 4 plays and couldn’t get in so kicked to tie. Then got an interception to start the 2nd OT, but did nothing and missed the field goal. 13 years ago, still hurts.

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  15. ApalachDawg aux Bruxelles

    As Bobby Bowden said about Richt when we hired him “Does he have that killer instinct…”

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  16. mddawg

    Speaking of what-ifs…

    https://www.redandblack.com/sports/missed-opportunities-derail-bulldogs-in-sec-championship-game-defeat/article_f56f662b-841e-5662-95f6-1040586c7ff4.html

    It seems like people always forget about the 2011 SEC title game in this type of thread. It’s understandable to an extent due to the final score of that game and the way the following year’s SEC title game ended. If Georgia wins this one in 2011, I think it would’ve postponed the playoff era by a couple of years at least because LSU wouldn’t have gone on to have the rematch with Bama in the natty.

    Oh, and that article doesn’t even mention that Tyrann Matthieu tossed the ball to the ref before he crossed the goal line on the punt return that counted for a TD. But I’m not bitter or anything…

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    • They would have just lined up on the 1 and scored anyway.

      The horrible STs prep and strategy in that game was a big nail for me and richt

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      • mddawg

        I’d have to go back and watch the replay, but I was under the impression that it would’ve been a touchback as he tossed it across the goal line to the ref. Even if it had been LSU’s ball at the 1-yard line, I think you want to give your defense the chance to make a stand.

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  17. I WAS having a pretty good day.
    Remind me, give me a game where CMR’s Dawgs beat someone they weren’t supposed to. Mark May’s vaunted Hawaii team doesn’t count.

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  18. Bigshot

    Anybody that is concerned about “what if’s” should never coach at UGA. “What if’s” is the UGA mantra.

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  19. FlyingPeakDawg

    I suspect VT, Michigan and Auburn fans don’t spend anywhere near the bandwidth we do kicking their former coach around.

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  20. jt10mc (the other one)

    As much as I support Richt and wish these “what ifs” weren’t what ifs…Richt was on slippery ground as a program. That is he NEVER had the type of support Kirby commands. Richt had enemies within the AA.

    Kirby knew about all the crap that had gone on and the broken promises that were made to Richt and more importantly understood and still understands the dynamics at play at UGA. Richt was never on an even playing field with the Saban led Bama’s or even the Barn’ for that matter. I can tell you stories of UGA coaches pulling up to a recruits house in the bargain basement cheapest rental vehicle while Barn’ coaches are showing up in stretch Hummers. What school would you pick?
    Kirby knew this too. The program is on a granite foundation now. Nothing happens that Kirby doesn’t know about. He does call the shots. That wasn’t the case with Richt.

    I chuckle at the “fans” who get angry at Richt for losing games and take it personally. Those same “fans” have NO CLUE about the the inner dynamics and how that affects what you see on a Saturday.

    One last thing…Kirby has nothing be respect for Richt…so for you fans who hate Richt…stick that in pipe and smoke it.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      What you’re not saying is that while Richt never got the monetary support Kirby has, neither did Richt make a priority to GET that monetary support.

      Richt went along to get along, and again, that’s the missing killer instinct and missing attention to detail that shows you that even if he had the advantages Kirby has gone out and demanded for himself, he still wouldn’t have won a National Title.

      It all goes together. Richt didn’t get the monetary support because Richt didn’t do enough to demand the monetary support. Kirby wouldn’t even take this job unless his demands were met. That’s your difference, not the money itself. I really wish y’all could or would understand that.

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      • How do you know what Richt did or didn’t do inside B-M?

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          It’s a logical deduction most would come to given:

          Richt’s personality.
          a. Him getting slapped down by B-M when complaining about no IPF and taking it instead of continuing to fight. He had momentum and good will behind him to fight Evans and some of the older boosters like Leebern. He could’ve appealed to the “younger” boosters, or at least those likely to be more frustrated with the continued “almost but no quite,” like a Billy Payne, but didn’t.
          Nothing did ever get done or improve for the most part. There were a lot of half measures to “improve” B-M the facility, but nothing substantial or in line with Bama, Texas, OSU, etc.

          I don’t say this to crap on Richt. I like him and think he was a really good coach who had the chance to be great, but he was missing key parts in his mental make-up that would never allow him to grab the brass ring. It’s just not who he was. When Bobby Bowden, the King of Takin’ it Easy, questions your lack of a killer instinct, that says something.

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        • junkyardawg41

          The fact that Richt paid bonuses to his assistants in 2011 is all I need to know about what was going on inside of B-M.

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        • WHB209

          Senator you are correct, I was not in the room. Mark’s first SEC Champ. he could have gone into the AD’s off and DEMANDED the support he needed. It was UGA’s first SEC Champ. in 20 years. It would have been very hard for the AD or even the folks that really run B-M to turn down every thing he asked for. But I don’t think Mark did that. He would have had to be willing to sacrifice his job to get the support and he choose not to take that gamble.

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    • I guess that explains the atrocious roster management, and pathetic S&C program.

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      • WHB209

        Chuckdawg, did you mean that UGA did not buy out the old S&C coach and allow Mark to hire the best S&C coach in football at that time, no matter the price. Maybe you proposed that the roster was a mess because UGA did not allow Mark to lease a couple of planes during recruiting periods, because he did not challenged UGA to supply these. Maybe you intended Mark was just a bad coach. I don’t think Mark was a bad coach. I do believe he did not DEMAND the necessary details needed to win in the SEC.

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  21. TN Dawg

    The sad thing is, reading through it, you realize that Kirby hasn’t been able to win the big game either.

    For all his recruiting success and sleepwalking through the dumpster fire SEC East the last few years, he’s still choked away two great chances even with Richt’s high-character seniors dragging him to within minutes of a NC.

    You have to wonder if Kirby has the ability to get it done. I mean he is a great DC and recruiter, but at Bama he had Saban to handle the big-boy, daddy decisions when the buttcheeks got pinched up tight.

    I have serious concerns about whether he can get us to the prize after he has completely blown two opportunities with his 4th quarter cocoon act.

    All of our hopes now are pinned on a Cleveland Browns assistant coach, an ACC quarterback and a wash-out line coach from Ole Miss.

    Outside of the crootin’, it looks the the wheels have come off. If Kirby doesn’t get it done soon, I hope they send him packing so that we don’t have to read another “Almost Anthology” on his 15 years here as well.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Kirby hasn’t gotten 15 years, and Kirby also has far more “Death Star” teams to contend with than Richt did. Saban came along to doom Richt, but Richt didn’t take advantage of a down Bama when he had the chance.

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      • TN Dawg

        Those donor pockets aren’t bottomless.

        A few more bedshittings like USCe and the dick-in-the-dirt beating like LSU gave us last year and it’ll be time to start looking for his replacement is all I’m saying.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          Kirby might not be the guy, you’re right, but just like Richt got, I’m going to give him a chance. He’s improved the program inside and out in ways Richt never dreamed, so he deserves that chance. He also did something Richt could never do: OWN all of our traditional rivals. Richt owned the Bugs, was decent against Auburn, and was owned by Floriduh. Kirby owns them all.

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      • 79Dawg

        We beat ‘Bama in ’02, ’03 and ’07, so to claim we didn’t “take advantage of them”, is a little hard to stomach (particularly given the ass-stomping we gave them in 2003!). And if you don’t think Spurrier’s Florida teams or Meyer were not “the Death Stars” of their days, I’m not really sure what to tell you.
        Richt’s teams lost to the national champions in 2003, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2015 (and lost to the runner-up in 2011) – half his seasons.
        Kirby has also lost to the national champions in half his season (2017 and 2019, and lost to the runner-up in 2018).
        To pretend that Richt had materially easier competition than Kirby is simply beyond me….
        PS – I also just want to apologize to this poor horse, which has been laying in a bloody pulp on the side of the road for the past 4+ years, and whose rotting carcass is now being pulled apart by the jackals…

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          I didn’t say Richt didn’t have great programs he had to deal with. I simply said, factually, that Kirby has MORE. You also forget to the fact that Richt definitely didn’t take advantage of a down Floriduh program for Zook’s three years, and the when Meyer and Saban showed up, instead of competing with them on and off the field, he acquiesced. Which was so nice of him to do, but in your rose colored eyes, I’m sure was not his fault at all.

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    • The wheels have come off? Lol. Man. You are a Georgia fan.

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  22. Mayor

    Let me be the first here to say it;
    The “If you ain’t first you’re last” Ricky Bobby attitude exhibited by some (not all) on this thread is pretty damn disappointing. Mark Richt consistently put winning teams on the field, won almost 75% of his games and won or tied for the about 6 SEC East about six times winning 2 SECChampionships. The fact that he didn’t win a natty (like 99% of the HCs who ever coached) makes no difference. The guy was a good coach who ran a clean program and deserves more respect than he gets.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      What’s disappointing is how excuses are continually made for a coach who HAD the teams to win a National Title, and over 15 years couldn’t even do it once. Even Bobby Cox got out of the way of the 95 Braves enough so they could win Atlanta’s only ring.

      It’s not that Richt didn’t win a title, it’s that he had plenty of chances, and didn’t. He refused to keep up with the teams that began to lap us on the field and in recruiting. He wouldn’t fight for what was necessary to keep up with them.

      And that’s okay. It really is. It wasn’t him. It’s not his personality. Given that, Richt should not have been the head coach at the University of Georgia.

      Much like David Cutcliffe found his bliss at Duke after Ole Miss stupidly fired him, Richt probably should’ve gone to Wake Forest or Vanderbilt. Those schools would’ve been far more his speed.

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      • RangerRuss


        I’ll give you credit for grabbing a topic and hanging on like the double bulldog you are.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          The thing is, I don’t hate Richt. I’m also not a “hater” of Richt’s time in Athens, although Schottenheimer was unforgivable.

          I don’t appreciate how it has to be all or nothing with Richt. It’s the same bullshit tribalism that affects everything online. Xbox or Playstation. Marvel or DC. Democrat or Republican. Richt or Kirby.

          We can feel great that Richt led us out of the desert in 2002. Twenty years is too long for this program to go between conference titles in football. I love him for that. At the same time, I’m upset that after the 2005 team came up short in many ways, and then how that 2007 team, which more than the 2002 or 2012 team, SHOULD HAVE WON THE NATIONAL TITLE, also came up short, he didn’t make the changes needed to build to a National Title. He didn’t demand excellence from under performing coaches. He didn’t demand excellence from under performing players. He didn’t demand excellence from milquetoast administrators. He had a chance, a moment, to really grab hold of the football program in January 2008 and implement changes that could’ve seen us win a national title in 2008, but he wouldn’t. Or couldn’t.

          And again, that’s fine. It’s not who he was or is as a person. It’s not in his DNA. So why can’t we say that? We can’t we point out the flaws on a good coach who had many chances to be great, who just never took the leap on his own, regardless of “good luck” or “bad luck?”

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          • junkyardawg41

            Out of curiosity, where does Dooley rank in your good or great coaches?

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              Given my feelings about Dooley are more a study of history as opposed to first hand experience?

              For his era, he’s a really good coach. I’d have him and Richt about equal in terms of ability. Not beating Penn State in 1982 is a real demerit. Losing to Clemson in 1981 is no shame, though. Still, three years of Herschel, when you look at what the team did overall, it seems a bit underwhelming, which is how I feel with Richt’s last ten years: underwhelmed. The problem is they’re in different eras. Dooley got out when the getting was good, before the SEC changed in ways he would not have been able to keep-up with in the terms of Spurrier and expansion, etc. He and Richt are awfully familiar in their make-up. Dooley would not have survived Spurrier any more than Goff or Donnan did.

              Richt’s problem is always going to be the era in which he coached. He simply did not and does not posses the mental make-up it takes to win a National Title in the post-Spurrier landscape of CFB. He wouldn’t run up scores, which was what was important during the BCS period. Stoops would. Carroll would. Meyer definitely would. Saban would. Richt wouldn’t compromise what he saw as winning “the right way” to help improve his team’s chances to move up in the polls. This filtered down to how the team practiced and played, how comfortable underperforming coaches felt on his staff (like they had lifetime jobs as long as Richt was there), and ultimately, the trajectory of the program following our last SEC title under Richt in 2005.

              Again, that 2007 team, even more than the 2019 team, had no business losing to THAT South Carolina team. It’s maybe the worst home loss in the modern era. It’s definitely up there with the time Goff lost to Vandy at homecoming. You win that 2007 game against South Carolina and Georgia wins the National Title that year. There’s no doubt in my mind. That we didn’t win that game, that falls on Richt for not preparing his team. For not giving them the right mindset. For not making Knowson the primary back. So many things.

              So, like trying to compare QBs who play in drastically different offenses (oh look, there’s the seed for another Fromm vs. Fields debate), comparing Dooley and Richt is apples and oranges.

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          • DawgPhan

            It’s just that you are objectively wrong about everything you are claiming that Richt didnt do and you started this whole thing with blaming his faith and his wife’s cancer.

            Georgia didnt win the national title and that’s true, but sometimes that just happens. The world has plenty of charlie browns and thats alright. We dont have to pretend that he did something wrong and that’s why he didnt win the title. Someone has to lose.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              I didn’t “blame his faith and his wife’s cancer.” FFS, dude. I didn’t say that at all. Go back and read exactly what I said. And then come back here and apologize.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              I am only now realizes your dumb ass actually was referring to what I wrote and not to others who go out of their way to actually be angry and blame Richt for the choices he made following his wife’s cancer, you twit.

              I wrote that the decisions he made I completely understand and even support him for making. However, for you or anyone to pretend that those decisions didn’t have an affect on the program is complete and utter nonsense. Of course they would! Those are the kinds of decisions he was justified in making, but the result was a net negative on the program.

              Again… it’s not wrong to say that; to admit that truth. I’m not angry with him for it.

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          • Bigshot

            Bad luck, but it wasn’t his fault. It’s UGA luck.

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  23. PTC DAWG

    Hell, I’ve moved on..y’all should too..

    Even CMR in the GT garb didn’t bother me..it’s nice over here.

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