The most significant draft choice in UGA history

It appears that the AJ-C’s Michael Cunningham has fallen victim to one of the classic blunders — the most famous of which is “never drink bleach to prevent being infected with a highly contagious disease” — but only slightly less well-known is this:  “it’s not Kirby Smart’s job to prove he can turn out a quarterback that NFL teams want near the top of the draft“.

It’s really not, no matter how much you want to fetishize Jake Fromm’s draft position over Georgia’s wins and losses during his three years in Athens.

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28 responses to “The most significant draft choice in UGA history

  1. What. A. Fool.

    My IQ went down 20 points after reading that click bait. Jake Fromm won the job in 2018. Kirby Smart tried to convince Justin Fields to stay even by letting a kid with at least one foot out the door accompany the team to a major bowl game.

    All of this is revisionist history.

    If Davis Mills ends up being a higher draft choice than Jake either this year or next, using this guy’s “logic,” Kirby made the wrong choice of QB commitment to accept.

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  2. bcdawg97

    Inconceivable!

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  3. MGW

    We had a down year and won 12 games.

    I get not predicting greatness from Georgia in 2020 but you have to reach pretty hard to cast doubt on the program as a whole.

    Hence this kind of stuff being written.

    There are 3, maybe 4 programs who wouldn’t trade places with Georgia in a heartbeat.

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    • psyopdawg

      Agreed. Subtract the relationship factor and just about ever head coach in the country would trade rosters with Georgia.

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    • Jim

      “ There are 3, maybe 4 programs who wouldn’t trade places with Georgia in a heartbeat.”

      That’s a little much.
      Alabama
      Clemson
      LSU
      Ohio
      Oklahoma

      There is five before my morning coffee

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      • MGW

        Forgot LSU at first. Still, LSU and OU would definitely have something to think about. Especially OU.

        LSU just won it all, but Georgia’s more talented with an easier path back to the playoff. OU has an easier path but even with a run of all world QB’s, they don’t have the talent to win it, and won’t any time soon. Their hopes depend on the other three playoff teams not being that good that year AND having yet another Heisman contender QB.

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      • Oklahoma? Disagree. Lincoln Riley would kill for the defensive talent like he sees at Georgia. He could have still scored 40+ a game with the offensive talent we had last year. At best, I would call that a push.

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        • Jim

          The comment wasn’t about trading rosters. It was trading places. The only team with an easier path to the playoff every year than Oklahoma is clemson. Georgia was probably one of the four best teams in the country the last 2 years, yet Oklahoma made the playoff because we had to play Alabama and LSU. Think Lincoln Riley wants to make that trade? I don’t.

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  4. Bulldog Joe

    Oh, no. The Rona killed most of the AJC’s click bait.

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    • So, it is Kirby Smart’s job to prove he can turn out a quarterback that NFL teams want near the top of the draft?

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      • ATL Dawg

        It’s his job to prove he won’t botch the QB position, and the offense, like he did.

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        • That isn’t what I asked you, but I suspect you already know that.

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          • ATL Dawg

            Not botching the QB position and the offense are directly tied to whether the QB will be selected in the first 4 rounds of the draft.

            Do you honestly need someone to explain that to you?

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            • Maybe you could get Aaron Murray to explain it to me.

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              • ATL Dawg

                You love to play you some gotcha. Ok, there you go. Aaron Murray.

                This means that coaches around the country are off the hook. Their handling of the QB position and the offense has no bearing on where their QBs get drafted because Aaron Murray was going to get drafted in the 5th round, regardless of what happened at UGA. There’s no way an undersized, not particularly fast QB like that would have gone even later or been undrafted if he and the offense experienced some serious dysfunction at UGA.

                I should have said “Botching the QB position and the offense is directly tied to where the QB gets drafted.”

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                • Somebody else mentioned Matt Stafford, if you want more gotchas.

                  Whatever you should have said, it doesn’t change the point of my post. But you keep trying!

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                • ATL Dawg

                  You started this back and forth but I’m the one trying?

                  Matt Stafford doesn’t prove anything. He was good at UGA and so were his offenses. If he had poor coaching, poor play, and played in a poor offense, his draft position would have been affected.

                  You’re saying that it isn’t Kirby’s job to produce a QB that NFL teams want. The problem with taking that position is that it ignores the fact that a player’s draft position is affected by what happens in college.

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                • Lutz Dawg

                  It’s Kirby’s job to win football games at UGA. In so doing, he will prepare kids for the next level. He did that with Jake as he got drafted and will get a shot in the NFL. It’s not Kirby’s fault that Jake fell in the draft. Jake’s physical tools aren’t as good as the other QB’s. How about we wait and see how Jake performs at the next level? Jake’s biggest attribute is his mind pre-snap. That wasn’t on display at the combine. There have been many QB’s who were great in college and never did much in the NFL and vice versa. Jake’s a winner and a leader; he’ll find a team to help.

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                • ATL Dawg

                  So last season’s cluster**** on offense didn’t cause Jake to fall in the draft? And neither did his individual performance (which was the result of poor QB coaching that he received)? It was just about physical tools and the combine?

                  Just want to make sure I have the mental gymnastics down. The apologetics required to be a blind homer can be difficult.

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        • How did Kirby botch the QB position in 2018 or 2019 for that matter? He didn’t gift wrap the starting job to a true freshman who hadn’t proven he could beat out the entrenched starter who was a blown coverage away from winning a national title the year before? He didn’t look beyond the same QB’s performance in 2018 where that QB improved in every meaningful stat over the previous year to give the job to a true freshman with a higher ceiling? He even gave Fields the opportunity to stay with the team through the bowl game in the hopes to convince his father to allow him to stay in Athens. The fact that Fields didn’t make an appearance in the Sugar Bowl during the part of the game when Jake struggled told me Kirby knew it was a lost cause.

          If you want to make a comment about the offense and the transition to Coley as OC, game planner, play caller, and QB coach in 2019, that’s absolutely fair to critique Kirby about. If you want to critique Kirby’s choices in the offensive staff to value recruiters over coaching, that’s a fair critique.

          I’m not a homer about Jake’s draft position. I thought he made a horrible decision to come out in the wake of the 2nd half of last season, but the Fromm/Fields discussion is hindsight at its worst. Kirby made the decision he thought gave his team the best chance to win games.

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          • ATL Dawg

            For starters, not replacing his competent QB coaching (Johnson and Chaney) when it walked out the door in December 2018/January 2019 calls into question his mindset on the offense and the QB position. It took the dumpster fire of 2019 to wake him up.

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            • We’re on the same wavelength. Kirby mishandled the transition to full OC of Coley, who was Jake’s position coach in that 2018 season where Jake improved dramatically. Jay Johnson left to be a coordinator for Tucker … he wasn’t going to stick around Athens as a QB coach only. Kirby valued Coley’s recruiting ties to South Florida over Chaney’s competence as a OC.

              Hopefully, Kirby learned his lesson with the hire of Monken. Hopefully, we get a season to see.

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              • ATL Dawg

                I’m not aguring here but I do want to clarify…

                I didn’t expect Johnson to turn down the OC position at Colorado to remain an analyst at UGA. My point was that he and Chaney both left and they were the competent QB coaches on staff. So to not replace that expertise was borderline coaching malpractice. And again, that calls into question his mindset on the QB position and the offense.

                Not only did Kirby hire Monken but he also hired Buster Faulkner as an analyst (Faulkner was the Southern Miss OC and QB coach). So it certainly appears that Kirby woke up. We’ll see if it also means that he’s finally going to evolve beyond a pre-Lane Kiffin Alabama approach to offense.

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  5. Stafford went first overall and left Athens with zero championships.

    I’ll take the current regime, thank you.

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