“How do we justify it?” The same way they justify all their other bullshit: they check their bank accounts.
They playin’, and not losing any sleep over it.
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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Yay!!!
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“It’s best for the student atheletes” will be their answer.
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The same way you justify walking out of your house every day. There are literally a million different things that could kill you at any time. You can either live your life to the fullest, or hide in the closet until you die anyway.
It’s also a little ironic they’re having to justify playing a game which is undergoing multiple studies about correlation with long-term brain damage because of a virus that 99.9% of young healthy college-age kids would survive anyway (and most likely will catch at some point anyway)
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Not to mention there are literally no data that suggest the virus poses a real threat to college athletes. The young and healthy are not dying and few have been hospitalized. The NBA players that tested positive were symptom-free. There will be more college athletes that die in homicides, car accidents, heart problems, and other random events this year than covid. There may very well be reasons to alter the season, but player safety seems like the weakest argument if we’re going off the data that exist today.
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Easy to say when these athletic programs would collapse if they don’t play.
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Maybe their business model could stand some improvement, then.
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Senator, if they play, will you watch? Or attend? It’s not an attempt at a “gotcha” question, I just feel like your instincts are telling you it’s a really bad idea.
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I bought my season tickets, but for now, I don’t feel comfortable attending.
Watching? Sure, why not? It’s likely that they won’t have thought through everything, which means they’ll be risking players’ health for the almighty dollar, but if player exploitation is where I draw the line on college football, I would have walked away a long time ago.
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My instincts, which are admittedly blunted by 10 years in Athens and all the damage to my frontal lobe that entails, say play ball. Everyone involved – fans, players, coaches, spectators, refs – have a choice. Is it another potential exploitation of the free labor? Probably. But I think COVID-19 mostly presents a threat to the other actors, besides the kids. The game itself appears – to my front-lobally challenged brain – to present more risk to the kids than the virus. I know nothing – these are my just my instincts. And we look to ye, Oracle Blutarsky, for your insight (insert Greek choir).
I’ll hang up and listen.
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I think the virus presents more risks to the coaches than the players, tbh. But even if the game is riskier for the kids than is the virus, you’re still adding an additional risk to the pot for them for nothing more than our entertainment and the schools’ bank accounts.
Not that what I think matters. As I keep saying, they playin’.
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Senator like you, I renewed my season tickets and would wager they will play. My questions is, if there will be fans, With the shallow efforts for fan experience, do the university presidents and AD‘S consider the fan. Based on past performance, I would say hell no, but the decision for the 2020 season may have long term effect, if forced to stay away, returning in 2021 and beyond, the gateway to watching on TV and not turning in a Hartman fund contribution gets a lot easier to justify. Do you believe the powers that be have that much foresight? And if so, will the factor to lose contributors play a part in decisions made for the 2020 season?
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Going to see a boom in business consultants who specialize as “Resiliency Experts” in the next year or so I suspect.
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There’s no business model that works on zero revenue. Maybe government, but that’s not a business per se.
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They don’t have zero revenue.
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Oh it’s greater than zero by including things like donations, but in a business model I wouldn’t classify charitable contributions as real business revenue. The idea though that a “business model” that can’t withstand a global pandemic that restricts business for months is fatally flawed and needs to be wiped out is terribly wrong. Any business that saves that much cash would be accused by those same people of hoarding cash and rightfully so.
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I guess we’re gonna have to agree to disagree about that.
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Whoa this is about “athletic programs” not the NCAA. What improvements to “athletic programs’” business models would you recommend that include not putting on athletics? How about a reserve of cash like say a Reserve Fund? No you have criticized that idea for years.
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Who do you think the money was supposed to be distributed to?
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Are you saying ADs like McGarity have bad business models, because the NCAA is stupid? Anyway are you now in support of keeping the Reserve Fund nice and fat “just in case?” It’s ok to change one’s mind based on new evidence. I just see too many people saying that businesses who didn’t save enough cash to withstand months of no business to “get a better business model.” And too many of those people use silly phrases like “late stage capitalism.”
If your only offered improvement for the ADs is “get a better NCAA” well I guess that’s something, but I’m not sure that’d be enough to not have actual athletics to fund athletics programs.
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Nope. I’m saying that when your business model is based on steadily increasing revenue flows such that you feel invulnerable to economic downturns, you make stupid spending decisions that come back to haunt you.
That’s not the same thing as saying “hoard your money”, either.
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Ok so we’re pro-Reserve Fund now just in case. No “stupid spending decisions.” Got it.
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First off, I don’t know what one has to do with the other. Second, can you tell me a single thing McGarity has used the RF for?
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I think it might help if I recap, a basic summary. Someone stated that athletics programs will collapse if there are no athletics. You replied that they should get a better business model. I asked how if they can’t get revenue from actual athletics. You replied well that maybe the NCAA shouldn’t have blown its reserve fund.
The relationship here then is that your response to my question regarding better business models was to maintain a reserve fund (even though this was NCAA and not the responsibility of the ADs specifically…..we’ll go with it). If you’d like to change your answer to something else about better business models that’s fine too. There aren’t a lot of options though really if we are not allowing athletics. You could advocate non-athletics revenues, lower expenses, or a large enough reserve to withstand months of a pandemic basically in perpetuity.
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There is a tremendous amount of waste in athletic spending because (1) there is a lot of money flowing in and (2) the labor isn’t compensated at market levels. Athletic departments are non-profits, so the typical approach is to spend like drunken sailors because the money has to be spent.
My point about business models is that if ADs were more careful with how their funds were managed and applied — including making sure the NCAA didn’t hand the money out to avoid potential player claims instead of keeping it safe for its original purpose — they wouldn’t be in the dire straights the proclaim themselves to be in now.
I don’t GAS about whether there’s a reserve fund in and of itself. If it’s part of a coherent business plan, cool. But if you’re just banking money to be virtuous, hard to see the management value in that. And maybe if an AD weren’t paying himself more than a million dollars a year, or paying millions in buyouts for hires they fucked up, they might have some more flexibility under the circumstances.
I have no idea why you have such a hard on about this, but I’m done here.
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No need to be nasty. I’ve been very respectful. I don’t “have a hard on” for this. I just think this is an interesting topic. I’ve talked with lots of different people about businesses and non-profits, the value of reserves vs. monetary velocity, surviving pandemics, the value of the Fed’s stimuli programs, PPP, etc.
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On principle, who will buy their season tickets and destroy them so no victim can attend in your place? Just askin’!
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On principle, who will buy their tickets and destroy them so no victim can use them? Just askin’!
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Games? Likely yes. Same schedule? Likely no. Fans in attendance? They may try at some point but it will be a cluster F. From the parking lots to the stadium, then entering/exiting, concessions, bathrooms, seating arrangements, etc. I can’t see how they work that all out. My local Discount Tire can’t do it, how will the ADs fare? Everybody will look to Disney…the amusement park, not ESPN, for how to do this.
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If I understand correctly Disney wants the pro soccer teams to sequester in Orlando and play a TV only schedule in their (Disney) stadium? C’mon Disney stock……
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People actually watch soccer? In numbers large enough to justify broadcasting games on TV? I’m not being snarky, just amazed that people in the US watch soccer.
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Yes wed do. If you haven’t watched Atlanta United these past few years you are missing out on some good fun.
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The “projection” by some who monitor sports media is that MLS will surpass MLB in popularity in the next 5 years. I watch soccer from all over the world. If you’re looking for live sports, the German Bundesliga just returned on FS1 and FS2. First team sports in the western world to return.
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Can’t wait, I’ll be there every game. I expect my section may be missing a few regulars as they’ll scalp or give tix to younger family members, but I think we’ll manage to have good crowds.
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The disappointing situation with college sports, is they basically have no representation or bargaining power other than to walk. Whereas professional sports have associations to represent the players and push for situations that are better for the players.
Quite honestly, I kinda hope something goes wrong- not to a fatal extent, but that allows players from a team (maybe like tOSU), to lawyer up as ass-rape the NCAA, Big10 and tOSU for liability.
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They may suck as a group, but they’re right about this. Good for them.
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I have noticed that the administrator of this blog, or whatever it is, has a bad case of wealth envy. I base this opinion on comments made by him/her in many of his/her comments as made in many, many previous posts. I’m no prude, but the administrator must have a limited vocabulary as he/she seems to take pride in the use of toilet language in many of his/her commentaries. I ask you, do you think your mother would approve?
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Fuck, yeah.
Gotta admit the “whatever it is” is a nice touch, though.
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It was gender-neutral.
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Obviously Senator Blutarsky, you don’t take constructive criticism very well as your juvenile reply indicates. Why can’t you just tone the language down a notch, or is that beyond your intellect? Some people can actually carry on a conversation or correspondence without vulgar language or attempting to insult the other party, obviously you are not capable of that.
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You’ve obviously been reading GTP for a while. It must be hell for you, coming here every day, reading all the dirty language. Which begs the obvious question, of course.
Bless your heart.
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The typical response that I would expect. No, I just staring reading GTP during the COVID-19 saga for what I thought would be information about the state of affairs with UGA football. Instead, I find some interesting articles with your blathering nonsense sprinkled in along with the use of your limited vocabulary. For whatever difference it makes, I will no longer be visiting your blog in the future as there are many others available that can make a point without resorting to the lower level of expression that you use.
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Your choice, obviously, but as far as just picking up the blog during the pandemic, either you’re FOS or you were on to it before anybody else in the world was.
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