The state of the state

I swear, if Brian Kemp didn’t answer a question about a possible second wave of the coronavirus like this…

“Yeah, look. Depending on how this thing plays out, and whether there’s going to be a second wave or not—there are arguments that can be made that the season should start on time; that, really, late in the season would create more complications than earlier in the season,” Kemp said. “I wouldn’t say that that’s a fact, but there are a lot of opinions out there, and that’s certainly one of them.”  [Emphasis added.]

… I’d have to invent it.

Bonus points for this answer to a question about tailgating:

“I think people just have to be smart. I’ve been to many a tailgate and plan to be at many more. If you were at a tailgate today, I’d tell people, if you can’t stay six feet apart from people, you need to wear a mask or be cognizant of that. Obviously, if you’re trying to eat or drink, it’s hard to do that with a mask on, so I think you’ll have to be really smart. But one thing about outdoor tailgating, it’s kind of like being at the beach or at the state park. As long as you keep folks spread out, you’re a lot less risky there than being in a confined, small space. I think most our tailgaters in the Bulldog Nation will be pretty smart about it.”

Obviously, we attend very different tailgates.

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UPDATE:  For a different perspective,

McGarity said how players go about what they do when not at the Butts-Mehre weight room or the practice fields will be an important factor.

“Voluntary workouts, that’s not a lot of time in your facility,” McGarity said. “So there’s going to be a lot of free time. It’s going to be essential that we educate not only our staff but our student-athletes on best practices due to the fact that they’re not going to under our watchful eyes 24-7. On all campuses, if there’s not a level of cooperation and understanding and buy-in, whatever we do internally inside our facilities will go for naught unless everyone buys in when they’re away from our facilities.”

Video of people close together at some Memorial Day activities nationally including Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri, Alabama beaches and Ocean City, Md., alarmed those concerned about another wave.

“It’s got to take a lifestyle change,” McGarity said. “What we saw this past weekend in certain areas of the country certainly we could not have that environment on our campus.”

When Greg McGarity is showing you up on the PR front, it’s time to admit your communication skills need work.

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83 responses to “The state of the state

  1. PTC DAWG

    Again, scared/compromised etc should just stay home. What do you expect the Gov to say?

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    • Nothing more than what I expected you to say in response.

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      • PTC DAWG

        I am as consistent as your whining…so that’s nice.

        But seriously, what should the Gov say IYHO? No tailgating?

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        • I repeat, if you know a “smart” way to pull off a tailgate with thousands of attendees, many of whom will be drinking, and some of whom will likely be in the “screw masks, ’cause freedom!” camp, please let me know.

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          • Chris

            Those predisposed to the virus stay home (underlying conditions, elderly, etc.).
            Those who live in fear and need to shelter in a safe space, stay home.
            Those in the disproportional least affected demographic, continue to live life.
            ????
            Profit

            Seriously, you “move the goalposts” camp are out of control. Muh shutdown > Muh vents > Muh ICU beds> Muh testing > Muh masks > Muh vaccine…

            Why do you hate freedom, Senator?

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            • Classic City Canine

              I don’t know what’s so hard about undrstanding that sometimes you have to trade your freedom for the benefit of others in your community, but I guess that’s what a few decades of hyperindiviualism hath wrought.

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    • Jdawg108

      Except for those doctors and nurses who can’t stay home, and get exposed by people like you.

      Fortunately they think beyond their own self interest.

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      • PTC DAWG

        How exactly will they get infected by me? Hell, I happen to be home now.

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        • Jdawg108

          Let’s spell this out, because it was clear above but I guess you lack subtlety.

          “People like you”- the ones advocating for a wide release. Who claim that caution is fear (although what your drumbeat of a lost economy is if not fear, I can not grasp) and that it should simply be by choice.

          We’re lucky this virus is relatively innocuous, because were it not we’d be in serious trouble.

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  2. Biggen

    You sure are worried about this Chinese virus. You should just stay home and blog from your office. Don’t go out in public at all if you are so worried about his.

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    • Two things here: “Chinese virus” — the vector for most of the infections in the country is Europe.

      And why is this a binary choice? What happened to government managing enough risk reduction to make it an easier, safer option for most of the country to re-engage?

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      • MGW

        Binary is much simpler: are you a racist who is itching to bring back slavery and set the forests and oceans ablaze with oil and wants everyone to die of coronavirus, or are you a trans pedophile dreadlocked eco-terrorist who loves crime and wants the global economy to completely die?

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      • Patrick

        Because the “government managing the risk reduction” is not a practical solution. If they try, it will destroy the value the entity in question provides to society.

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        • I don’t have a clue what that means.

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          • Patrick

            There are existing safety and hygiene laws and regulations on the books.

            Outside of health care facilities and nursing homes, I don’t believe the lethality of this virus necessitates a single new law or regulation.

            If government enforces new distancing laws on things like tailgates, schools, restaurants, etc…people will choose not to go to those things.

            So yes, unless the data changes, I want the market to handle it and government can step out.

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            • I’m glad you “don’t believe the lethality of the virus necessitates a single new law or regulation.” What about the rate of infection for this particular disease? What is the R0 value? It’s not just the lethality of the virus that is important here. Also, I’m going to assume you have some experience with infectious diseases and their relation to public policy? If not, what exactly are you basing this opinion on? From everything I’ve read from the professionals who actually work in this field, they seem to be on the same page. Social distancing plus masks will help reduce the rate of infections.

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              • Cojones

                Hear! Hear!

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              • Chris

                Literally every model from the “experts” have been wrong. The IFR rates from the CDC are closer to the flu than a pandemic. Which experts do you believe?

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                • Um, the models were wrong because we changed our behavior. Seriously, how do people not get this yet? The “experts” (meaning those people who work with infectious diseases, statisticians, healthcare professionals, etc.) created models to predict outcomes based on our current behavior in society. Then society takes action to prevent those outcomes (stay at home orders, social distancing, masks, etc.). Then, the model outcomes differ from what transpires in reality because we altered our behavior to try and avoid those very outcomes. Then, people like you, claim “the models were wrong!!!”

                  How about this example: You get sick. The doctor says you must take a pill once a day for a week or you will die. So you take the pill once a day for a week. You don’t die. According to your line of thinking, the doctor doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about because he said you would die and you didn’t. It’s no wonder the initial models were wrong, we locked the country down to avoid those outcomes.

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                • Scott

                  Thank you for this. I feel like I’ve been screaming this into an abyss for months now.

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                • Chris

                  The predictive short term models are way off, and you trust models
                  on hypothetical lives saved? Not to mention those hypothetical models were the earliest models with the least amount of data.

                  The doom casting virtue signalers can’t be proven wrong, just like they can’t be proven right.

                  Hell, we were supposed to be stacking bodies here in GA after the “premature” opening, and yet hospitalizations and deaths have been trending down considerably. But Muh Models…. Sheep.

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                • “Mission Accomplished!”

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              • Patrick

                Based on the statistically insignificant amount of non-elderly victims to date.

                I’m fine with people choosing to mask and distance. We’ve provided the right info to the public, and they’ll adjust behaviors accordingly. I too will behave differently with my 80-year old father than in my everyday life.

                But I’m against broad government-mandated new regulations. I don’t believe they are necessary, and I think they would be a net negative for society.

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                • Got it. So if it only impacts the elderly, you’re cool with letting it ride. That’s a very interesting benchmark. Seems random, but hey, what do I know?

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                • 80dawg

                  If you go out in public & wear a mask around others who wear a mask & wash often, you have a 30% chance of unknowingly getting infected & being contagious. If you go out in public & wear a mask around others who DONT, your chance of catching COVID goes up to 70%. If neither wears a mask, the chance is higher, If you then go see your father & both wear a mask, he has a 30% chance of catching a potentially deadly illness. If you want to play those odds with your dads life, no one will stop you.

                  Exposure is dose/time based. 5 minutes within 6 feet of anyone breathing normally outside= you have been exposed enough to catch it if they have it. If they are breathing heavy, cough, or sneeze, the dose in the air increases exponentially & the exposure time can be seconds to become infected. If you are in an enclosed room, the dose in the air & on surfaces increases exponentially & varies based on ventilation/exhaust systems & your position (up stream, downstream, in between).

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        • Jdawg108

          This is EXACTLY the purview of government. What, you want the market to decide what happens I a pandemic? Or a natural disaster? Let’s wait an see how it plays out.

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      • Granthams replacement

        Doesn’t have to be binary but it needs to be a choice. Let each individual decide what level of risk they feel comfortable with.

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        • If you make a broad effort with risk mitigation that is successful, doesn’t that mean more individuals will accept the reduced level of risk?

          You “let each individual decide” groupies are putting the cart before the horse.

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        • Russ

          Expect your choice can definitely affect my health. There are certain places, such as grocery stores, pharmacies and the like where I may be required to go. You not wearing a mask or not practicing social distancing can put me at increased risk, and I have no choice in that.

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        • MGW

          I guess that’s why we let people drive whatever speed they want on the highways and roads. Same reason we allow companies to produce whatever products they want without any safety oversight whatsoever. People can be counted on to safely make whatever personal choice suits their own risk tolerance without harming others. It always works out.

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          • I keep asking the question and to your point? If you drive faster than the limit you risk punishment by fine or loss of privilege. If I don’t wear a mask some of y’all will think I’m a selfish asshole, but the court of public opinion doesn’t really have any teeth, does it?
            This has been my issue the whole time. If this is as deadly as it’s been touted why are there no fines for not wearing masks and social distancing in public places? Either our governing bodies are callous enough that they really don’t give a shit how many people contract the virus or it’s just not that dangerous.
            I keep a face covering with me. If the establishment I’m patronizing requires me to wear one I’m happy to do so. If it isn’t required then what’s the point. Seriously when I go to the grocery there are typically 50 or so people there and maybe 10 have covered faces. Home Depot is the same way. What’s the point then of even bothering with a mask?

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            • PTC DAWG

              It just gives some folks a chance to bitch..

              A mask is just a compliance indicator..

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            • Cojones

              Well I’m certainly glad you have found places where your compliance doesn’t mean shit and you all can experiment with contaminating each other to your heart’s (and lungs’) desire. That means less of you available to cheer the despot at our helm all the way to the loser’s line.

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              • See? I just mentioned not wearing a mask ’cause everyone else doesn’t have to now Cojones thinks I’m an Asshole (You might have thought that anyway, big guy. No worries) And PTC because I keep one handy thinks I’m a compliant sheep. You cant win…
                And still neither Governor Kemp or the Mayor of my city has made it illegal to gather in public without face coverings. I guess they just don’t care….

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      • Greg

        Still the “Chinese Virus”, it is where it originated…..as it seems most of this mess does.

        Call it what it is, kinda like the “Hong Kong flu”.

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    • jtp03

      Typed on your China computer wearing your Sri Lanka clothes driving your Mexico truck.

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  3. MGW

    “It’s logically impossible to be safe at a tailgate, so just be smart about it while you tailgate. We’re smart so we’ll be fine.”

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  4. Mark

    With all do respect I’m not sure what’s really wrong about what he said. We have to be smart about going out in public anyway. I think he wants a season as we all do but I personally don’t think three months is going to have me ready to venture into that size crowd. Others will and hopefully they will be respectful and cautious. I’ve got a Higher risk child so I’ll choose to play it safer for longer. Many incorrect things have been said by all parties, some rooted in narrative and others in changing information, but this isn’t really one of them. Nelson Mandela once said sports brought us all together more than anything. We sure need that now.

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    • If you know a “smart” way to pull off a tailgate with thousands of attendees, many of whom will be drinking, and some of whom will likely be in the “screw masks, ’cause freedom!” camp, please let me know.

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      • Tony Barnhart

        Give away UGA themed masks all over campus would probably bring some people on board. I know those are available now, but people are lazy (and for BM, it’d be a relatively low cost-high reward endeavor). It’d probably bring a lot of people around.

        Now, what if they could incorporate lighting into the mask and bring the mask into the whole Light Up Sanford theme ? Solidarity for the win ! (now those couldn’t be free of course).

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        • Seriously, that’s a good suggestion. It’s not enough, but it’s definitely a start.

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          • Tony Barnhart

            Red lights on the masks coupled with the white phone lights would be pretty sweet….bonus points to the designer who could figure out how to make the light only active when worn on the face–maybe the elastic is like a safety switch, where the light won’t come on unless both sides are stretched.

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  5. JC

    Welp, Tech definitely has an advantage over us in that they’ve been socially distancing in the stands for years now.

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  6. Mark

    Well, I don’t. And like I said I won’t be ready to venture into that for awhile. I just didn’t see anything outlandishly crazy about these two comments he made. Personally, I wear a mask in public and as much as I want CFB, baseball, concerts, etc. back my unqualified medical mind doesn’t see a safe way to do it yet. What I can do is play it safe for my family. As for the governor, he’s caught a lot of heat, some justified and some not, but we’re not seeing the blood on his hands as predicted. That’s a blessing whether you agreed or not.

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  7. I don’t tailgate and certainly won’t this season.

    All of this are reasons I believe the powers that be are going to make college football a TV only sport this year. I can’t see the school allowing students to set up on the Myers Quad. I can’t see the school having enough people to enforce distancing requirements on North Campus. The idea of standing around with a mask on for 3-6 hours before the game to wear it for another 3 1/2 hours in the blazing hot September/October sun is going to suck the fun out of being a spectator.

    It’s going to be interesting to see how law enforcement and UGA parking services deal with people who decide to come to campus just to tailgate and watch games from their portable satellites if fans aren’t allowed in the stadium or people don’t have tickets.

    If spectators are going to be able to attend but with all of these restrictions in place, my season tickets will likely go on StubHub.

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  8. Normaltown Mike

    Enough is enough. we need commonsense tailgate reform NOW!

    I think that bar in Ocean City, MD that gives an innertube to each customer is on the right path

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  9. Greg

    Which is a virus….but you already knew that, right?

    Call it what you want. However, the “Chinese Covid” does have a certain ring to it.

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  10. Dawgflan

    I guess the wussification of America is real, at least for the wussies complaining about the discomfort and distrust of masks, or those (same?) people that are selfishly worried about their personal “rights” while ignoring their responsibilities. Not only did people wear masks to watch (and play!) sports during the 1918 pandemic, they did it while wearing 3-piece wool suits or full length dresses. The picture below from a Georgia Tech game has been widely circulated in recent days, and there are others.

    https://www.wthr.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image/public/2020/05/23/1918-pandemic-football-game-andy-mcneil.png?itok=DFm3HBiT

    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/2d/52d21944-6dd0-5159-9ec6-04ea40f1a260/5e9796a9add3c.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C648

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  11. ASEF

    My tailgate will be next to a nice fire, on a swinging bed, covered screen porch, 72” TV, bourbon and rum drinks on the wet bar to accommodate me, my wife, and two friends.

    Part of it is virus. Most of it is just not wanting to deal with denier assholes who emotionally just can’t handle the sight of adults being responsible in public.

    I trust my own ability to take care of business and be out and about. Purchased 4 cars this month, one for me and three for a non-profit medical service provider.

    But those are professional environments where people respect the precautions my wife and I need to take for our own reasons.

    Went to get a haircut yesterday, and some blowhard was glorying in his refusal to wear a mask or stand 6 feet apart or any of those things. He just made the entire experience miserable for the hair cutters and other customers.

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    • Cojones

      Sound post, sir. Guess I’m fortunate not to run into some ahole who wishes to shout some invective towards me for wearing a mask or any other reason. Then again, my wife reminds me that I loom larger than my mind comprehends and I don’t act my size among people (sorry to disappoint those who think I’m a little guy with my long hair bunched in a ponytail). Other than one jerk working at Tractor Supply (“I believe in God, not guv’mint”), no one has smart-mouthed about my calling attention to their not wearing a mask or wearing one correctly. The wife also attributes that to my “angry blue eyes” from above the mask. She says that no one assumes that I wouldn’t hurt a fly when I’m speaking heatedly about a subject, even though she knows I wish no physical harm to anyone.

      Guess I have some work to do on my social disposition as I enter my 80s, especially with the dumbass yahoos walking around spreading this inanimate, mindless and invisible biological grenade as if it is something to be proud of as a fellow member of society.

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      • Hank

        I always pictured Fred G Sanford. Probably not blue eyes. Warm?

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        • Cojones

          Close, but with fewer melanocytes. Life has shrunk some height, but I continue to be over 6′, over 200lbs. Eyes vary between blue and bloodshot. I don’t talk about other parts except, I can still straddle my floor scale and weigh my testicles.

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  12. Cojones

    Would one of you great statistics calculators here like to conjure up the odds for this season to go Covid-19-infection flawlessly when you consider the variables that can stop this season cold in its tracks?

    What are the odds for non-infection occurring when we turn teenagers loose on their own (who may not be able to comprehend the subtle reasons to distance themselves from others) to monitor their environment for family members who may have contacted a person found to be infected, all the while wearing a mask at home and outside when they can’t control where family members and friends have been? Please include the individual’s social desires to imbibe with friends, share a spleef, and maybe have sex. Next enter the probability of sharing the same space in practice while not wearing a mask during heavy exercise, showering afterward and dressing/undressing to put on the uni and later street clothes. Receiving congratulations from fans during and after a game should probably be vectored in there, plus, when meeting the family afterward, how can they be assured their family hasn’t been infected during the exciting game we win? And will they all eat together under the supervision of epidemiologists when they have to remove their masks?

    Could you calculate and factor your answer into a probability of the same actions required of all members of teams we play? And the band? And their families? Environment when traveling? Ten to the n power may not cover the number to be reached that would assure we would play the second game of the season before the second wave may be realized.

    Do y’all really think this season is going to happen? Not unless there is a vaccine. And you “herd immunity” contemplators can shove that one back up your ass, even when using a vaccine to accomplish it. You really have no clue of the reality of that meme.

    Any society that is leaderless and can’t begin to deal with the amount of testing needed to help segregate society to get a grip on fighting this infectious virus from the beginning and, instead has politicized it, is not going to be equipped to deal with the reality of having a cfb season and the numerous variables needed to be dealt with that will end up crushing your enthusiasm and possibly your spirit as well as your life.

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