Today, in voluntary

Those of you who keep posting comments like this need to check out the news from the Houston program.

That’s symptomatic athletes testing positive.  Add this to that…

Smart.  I mean, they are highly conditioned athletes, after all.

There’s a similar story coming out of Iowa State.

Iowa State athletics announced June 3 that a part-time student worker had tested positive for coronavirus. It also said that four student-athletes had been quarantined when they experienced COVID-19-like symptoms after having contact with an infected person outside the department.

My point here is not to play gotcha with some of you, as tempting as that might be.  It is, instead, bring this to your attention as a lead in to repeat what I’ve been saying all along:  we don’t know enough about this damned disease to be confident about anything.  “We” includes school athletic administrators.

As much as I want college football back, schools need to be adhering to best practices, whatever that costs.  Otherwise, we’ll see more stories like these.  I don’t know about you, but finding out after the start of the season that Georgia played a school shortcutting health protection that got our guys exposed would truly suck for me.

Football fans ought to quit playing doctor.

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107 responses to “Today, in voluntary

  1. dawgtired

    I’m thankful UGA is testing 100% regardless of symptoms. Some of these programs could get wiped out quickly. Boy do we need a vaccine in a hurry.

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  2. TimberRidgeDawg

    Test them early and test them often or don’t test and play Russian Roulette.

    If teams wait until somebody is sick to test, it’s already too late. Don’t be that team that has to cancel a game during the season because a quarter of the team is infected.

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  3. mwo

    It should be obvious we know so little about this. The best medical people have made statements then doubled back. No mask, mask, can spread a symptomatically, can’t spread asymptomatically.. Either they are rushing to judgement or are being told to make statements before they are vetted. I’m curious to see some factual data about cases, deaths, and recoveries. None of the numbers add up. I had thought we might have a normal football season but I really can’t see it happening now. Oh yeah, fuck Dan Mullen and FU.

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      We ain’t done, but here is a link to some factual data if you really want to see it:
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=CSauthorbio?
      You can also see the CDC data for the US only here:
      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
      The CDC looks to me like they are about a day behind the other on the US data which I think might be because they wait for confirmation, but I don’t know that. Still, they are pretty close to each other.

      The thing about the masks is easy to explain. The masks we wear that aren’t surgical and are not going to stop a virus from penetrating if it can, so that is why they said it wouldn’t protect you. However, they now realize that they are useful if not perfect, and this article explains why:

      It is a developing situation, which is what The Senator’s point is. I think with careful attention it can be addressed if every team will do it, but I don’t see how you can be in the stands and feel comfortable. At least in Athens it is open air, which is good, but…..

      I will say that after watching the 2017 Cocktail Party game maybe the Florida fans were ahead of their time and social distancing after the first quarter. 😉

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  4. RangerRuss

    Going half-ass and cheap gets people injured and killed every day. It’s infuriating.

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    • Down Island Way

      Tru dat…..

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      • RangerRuss

        With all the cash being distributed to every team by the SEC and the amount on the line for an uninterrupted season? Use that money as a bludgeon. Testing early and often or you forfeit not only the games but all financial disbursements. SEC needs to do its job and protect its people by adding teeth to their rules instead of simple suggestions.

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        • Russ

          Good point, RR. Hit the teams in the pocketbook and they will test regularly. No financial penalties for positive tests but hit them hard if they knowingly play a positive player.

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  5. Keese

    I just don’t see how this won’t cripple a football season unless they test all players everyday or quarantine off the entire team. Or of course vaccine is ready in September

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    • Union Jack

      But from everything I read about a vaccine – even if one is ready it will take several months if not years to be broadly available to the public.

      Given the “political” fight over shutdowns and mask wearing, one can only imaging the politics of a small supply of vaccine. Do you vaccinate the most vulnerable or keep them in quarantine and vaccinate those groups with less risk but who in theory will have more impact on the economy? Do you reserve a large portion of it for those in sports because they have a duty to entertain us?

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  6. DawgFaithful

    America ought to quit playing Dr. I’ve had to leave Facebook just so I’ll still want to be friends with a lot of people when this is over. The stupidity of the comments they’re making is appalling. I didn’t know I was friends with some many idiots. There are some that still think it’s not real.

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    • gastr1

      Yet, it’s very easy to see where they could have this idea. Comes right from the top, where there’s lip service, but very little action and not even admitting to the need to wear masks.

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  7. TampaDawg

    “We” will rationalize away that S-As catching the virus is acceptable by pointing to (hopefully) low hospitalizations and quick recovery rates. Just like we have in places that have seen a recent significant spike, like where I live in Florida. We’ll see the true genius of everyone’s ability to rationalize when a kid, God forbid, ends up a respirator or, even worse, dies. I do give lots of credit though to our program and what seems to be a very genuine interest in safety of our S-As.

    So far, I think schools have played the communications piece pretty well by slowly rolling out information, i.e let the idea of having a season sink in then the idea of playing with/without fans settle. That boldly assumes though it was thought out that way and not just some lucky incrementalists….

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    • They can try to be incremental in all of their communications, but I won’t be watching if fans and especially students aren’t allowed in the stadium. I may be only one person, and my viewership won’t make a difference. I just don’t believe if fans can’t be in close quarters, players shouldn’t be either.

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  8. PTC DAWG

    They’ll all be dead in two weeks.

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    • Gosh, and I thought it was the other side that’s guilty of moving the goal posts.

      Glad they’ve got nothing to worry about. It’s almost as if they shouldn’t even require medical attention. As they used to say, rub a little dirt on it, and get back out there, kid.

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      • ASEF

        The woman who just a double lung transplant was in her 20s with zero underlying conditions. Her lungs had basically melted into surrounded tissue. The only reason she got the transplant was her youth and health.

        There seems a very high correlation between people’s confidence levels and their ability to selectively inform themselves.

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        • gastr1

          We have to give PTC Dawg some credit for sticking with his initial assessment, though, It all continues, the numbers grow, evidence piles on top of evidence, but he has his take, and by gum, he’s sticking to it.

          At least it’s an ethos, amiright?

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          You do realize that using this young woman as an example is you yourself selectively using information to try to buck up a poor argument, right?

          I don’t know why some people keep having to be told this, but healthy people dying or suffering extreme consequences from covid-19 under the age of 60 are statistically irrelevant.

          Of course there will be people under the age of 60 dying or suffering extreme consequences, but they are a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the population.

          But by all means, because of them, let’s continue to march towards a second Great Depression.

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          • ASEF

            Did I say we need to shut down the economy? No. You leaped from an example to a motivation for posting it. I posted it in a comment section on football programs and the precautions they take because a number of posters insist on acting like this disease only kills old people, and death is only poor outcome.

            Statistically irrelevant? Easy to say when you’re betting with someone else’s health.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              Far more healthy before infection 18-60 year olds in the US have died from pneumonia this year than from covid-19. By orders of magnitude.

              Do you want to shut down football because the players could get pneumonia and die? Why don’t you care about those deaths?

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              • ASEF

                I never said shut down football either.

                You keep getting indignant about things I never said.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Fair enough. I’ll try from now only to get indigent about the ridiculous strawman arguments and other things you do say.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  So let me ask you, what was the point of bringing up the case of a previously healthy young woman without markers who got a double lung transplant that is so statistically insignificant as to be wholly unique and not germane to, well, anything?

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  9. Did anyone else immediately think upon reading that first sentence and the “comments like this” hyperlink, “please don’t let it be one of my comments…”

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    • Lol. I knew what was coming. But as to who, had a list of a few.

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    • RangerRuss

      I knew it wasn’t gonna be me. I’ve mostly kept quiet about this Chicom virus but I’ve taken it very seriously. I haven’t been out to eat since late December. When hints of this filtered down from in-the-know friends in January I started taking precautions not only because I cherish my old Mom and Mother in law, but for myself also. I’ve had some sort of nasty flu. So sick it hurt to touch my hair. According to my bud in Philly who has since recovered that’s how this virus affects you.
      I’m going out to eat tonight for our 35th anniversary. But I’m sitting outside and sterilizing my mouth with 18 year old Scotch. Neat.

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      • We’ve wondered here. My girlfriend is strong as an ox and she was out for a week very sick, With multiple multiple employees that were out for a week or 2.I got extremely sick twice myself. But supposedly the flu was real bad this year and there were multiple strains. And I got the shot. My gut says that if we could test every single person for antibodies the situation may look very different than we possibly know.

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      • ASEF

        You can get free antibody testing.

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      • RangerRuss

        Ah dammit. To be clear I was ill in ’94. Not recently. I’m fortunate to be rarely sick. Missed a day in second grade. That flu in ’94 and then again in ’02. The only other times I puked was my own dumbass fault. Tequila on an empty stomach.

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  10. TN Dawg

    Symptomatic could be a fever of 100.2, right?

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  11. TN Dawg

    Not to be argumentative, but I don’t see anything in the story that would contradict the commenter.

    I guess if the story stated that 6 players had been hospitalized as a result, perhaps it might disprove the commenters point that SARS-CoV2 isn’t much deadlier and dangerous to highly conditioned athletes than the flu.

    But the stories, as near as I can tell, don’t real say anything other than “symptomatic”, which means they could have had a low-grade fever when checked, perhaps a dry cough or maybe just felt tired.

    But then you pretty much have a lot of those symptoms with the flu, too.

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    • Thanks for the speculation, doc.

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      • TN Dawg

        I mean my speculation is probably a bit more plausible.

        It’s doubtful a SA in severe respiratory distress would have shown up for workouts, or am I out of line in thinking that?

        The list of “symptoms” is so broad that I probably present as symptomatic on a daily basis.

        They could include:

        A mild fever
        Fatigue
        Dry Cough
        Headache
        Loss of Appetite
        Sore throat
        Body aches
        Stuffy Nose
        Mucus or Phlegm
        Nausea

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        • I mean my speculation is probably a bit more plausible.

          Oh. That changes everything.

          Send ’em a bill for your services, doc.

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          • TN Dawg

            My apologies.

            I thought perhaps you wanted discussion on the issue.

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            • I thought what I wanted was for people to quit making uninformed diagnoses.

              I appreciate your apology.

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              • Napoleon BonerFart

                I’m with Bluto. Shut it all down. If it saves even a single life, no cost is too high. Since we don’t know much, let’s err on the side of panic. Anyone who makes cogent arguments to the contrary will be mocked as an internet know it all. By us true life intellectual elites.
                #EliminateTheCurve
                #StayHomeStayPoor

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                • Anyone who makes cogent arguments to the contrary will be mocked as an internet know it all.

                  That’s why I don’t mock you. 😉

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                • Napoleon BonerFart

                  Hey, I’m in your side. The virus is dangerous. It has infected some players. We don’t need to wait for their prognosis to panic. Millions will die!

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                • There’s plenty of mockery on both sides.

                  The truth is health and economics are more linked than people seem to want to acknowledge. In the month of May, the State of California – not exactly a hotbed of right fringe activity – acknowledged that it had experienced a year’s worth of suicide attempts in the span of four works. Mostly young, healthy and unemployed people. The Census Bureau stated that nearly a third of Americans were showing signs of clinical depression or anxiety (who knows how they conjured up that number). The question about whether or not to have a season isn’t just about Jimmy and Joe (although the nature of our favorite blog suggests that is naturally our most front-burner concern), it’s about the guys at the ticket booths, concession stands, the waiters and cooks at the local businesses that make their year in the fall, it’s about the economy of a region that puts food on a lot of tables for people barely hanging on financially.

                  I absolutely agree that concern for the student athletes is a major concern. But I don’t think all concerns about the economics of the situation can just be tarred as “choosing economics over health.” In many cases, they are the same thing. Not for CKS or CNS, or Mickey, but for a lot of smaller, less visible people who rely on the enterprise and have a much, much smaller margin for failure. Anyone on either side who pretends there are simple solutions is wrong. Unfortunately, the people calling the shots appear to me to be exactly those kind of people.

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          • Biggen

            Sane responses are a bitch to deal with aren’t they Senator?

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        • TN Dawg

          Scientists have never created a viable vaccination for a coronavirus.

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

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      • spur21

        This is my main concern

        ” I don’t know about you, but finding out after the start of the season that Georgia played a school shortcutting health protection that got our guys exposed would truly suck for me.”

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  12. Cojones

    Thanks senator. And the article I read yesterday said that 10 Iowa St players were positive.

    Consistently, I’ve posted that testing has to continue to ramp up to try to get ahead of this virus before anything will get better for returning to sports and other activities. Those that have politicized this pandemic and are keeping it that way are either trying to get “Herd Immunity” and waiting after many deaths to occur before the rate flattens or they are just wishing this viral entity will go away. Neither of those beliefs will get a cfb season that is posible this year.

    If those two teams are showing positive now, how many will go unreported until the pandemic sweeps the season.away? What are the odds this won’t occur with other teams on our schedule and end the season even though we remain as.clean as.can.be?

    We can’t keep a campus inviolate until we have a vaccine. Students can’t have a social life and go off-campus until Athens and the surrounding communities get vaccinated. Period. My purpose of throwing cold water in your faces is to get everyone to insist on testing at a rate that allows us to separate from this virus long enough for it to die by not providing fresh.meat. If we can’t do that then kiss this season goodby.

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    • It appears to me these seasons are happening one way or the other. There’s too much money at stake, and the people making the decisions aren’t doctors or scientists. And even if they were, it’s not like there’s much consensus in those communities, either. We the fans are left to armchair quarterbacking, which, as with the games themselves as well as the state of the sport in general, means what we reasonable folks think plus a nickel will get you a nice, hot cup of jack squat.

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      • This is exactly what I’m saying.

        They’re playing, come hell or high water, ’cause the schools need the money. They’re also hoping like hell they don’t get burned.

        The least they can do is everything possible to protect staff and players. Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that may be too high a bar for many programs.

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        • I expect a lot of chaos. Especially smaller schools. The season gets an asterisk. What if your quarterback Room gets the virus? It would be better just to forfeit your game. And I expect some cancelations. How can Murray South Dakota State North possibly prepare to play a top 25 school?

          I think it’s good for the teams to go ahead and practice and do what they can and let’s just get to August and then there may be some major decisions that have to be made.

          I would hate for no football but I can survive without it. I won’t put on my fall 10, I’ll be out Enjoying the weather I’ll be spending time with significant others family friends. I’m already mentally preparing that every football game this season is basically just a scrimmage. There maybe schools that play no games, schools that only play a few games, schools that get absolutely beat to heck because theyre missing 25% of their team or more

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        • Tampadawg

          I’m sure you’ll take a stand and not show up “for the good of the athletes” right?
          Lead the way…wizard of oz

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  13. mp

    Tired: let’s minimize the team’s infections

    Wired: let’s infect the 2 deep now so they won’t miss Bama

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  14. practicaldawg

    If the standard is zero tolerance for illness, then there’s simply no way any organized activity can ever happen again and we need to stop dreaming about football in the fall now

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    • That isn’t the standard. They’re playing the games.

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    • gastr1

      You could look up what the actual suspected symptoms are (the asshat above tried to list them, being snarky but thinking they were accurate when they weren’t). And you could ask that players be tested.

      There’s such a thing as “gray” between black and white, man. Even shades of it. I know it takes a little work to determine which shade of gray we’re dealing with re: coronavirus symptoms versus every other illness on the planet, but I have confidence in you. You can do this!

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  15. TNDAWG

    This ain’t TN Dawg. For once you and I agree Michael. Let the docs handle this, and BE CAREFUL everybody.

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  16. Aladawg

    Senator , I side with you most times, but on this all I have to say is what about The Influenza strains that will rise in the fall? Will we test and quarantine for that. Will we test for chicken pox, coronavirus causing the common cold, GI tract entero viridae and so many others? Will we shut it all down for these? I’m disappointed in your “I gotcha” because that’s what it is no matter what you profess. There are many sides and approaches to this, any of which can be backed by science. The fact is, like many scientific things, there are not clear answers and probably won’t be….,.,,for at least an extended period on this one. Grant people the right to have opinions differing yours without belittling them. You have repeatedly made your point on where you stand and I think we understand that and I respect your opinion. Now respect those differing from yours.

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    • What exactly am I supposed to respect about a prognosis offered by someone with nothing more than an opinion about someone they’ve never seen’s hypothetical condition?

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    • Here’s what I respect, Aladawg — somebody says they’re not worried and they’re going to games if allowed. I may not do the same, but more power to them, at least assuming they take steps to make sure they aren’t infecting others.

      But the BS “analysis” about what the coronavirus is and does? C’mon, man.

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      • Tampadawg

        Interesting how you have no problem criticizing McGarity for running his business during this crisis. Wonder how you would feel if people protested your business being open and you collecting checks?

        I’ll hang up and listen

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    • ASEF

      “Black people are inferior” is an opinion who’s proponents claim it is backed by science.

      I’m not going to respect that.

      Online “experts” who claim they have Covid-19 all figured out and hence contrary opinions are just stupid? Not going to respect those either, whether they’re dismissing Covid-19 or turning it into the bubonic plague. Their self-assured righteousness comes from blinders.

      I will respect programs that proceed cautiously and make decisions based on what professional medicine at the time says are best practices. Not the ones trying to save a dime because they have decided that young men who are physically capable of playing football are exempt from any Covid complications.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        That’s a helluva strawman. Are you sure you aren’t the other guy?

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  17. Paul

    So the question I haven’t seen answered yet is what happens during the season when players test positive? Clearly they’ve been in contact with most if not all of their teammates. Does the whole team need to isolate for two weeks? Or do you just isolate the ones with symptoms and hope for the best? I’m sure coaches and ESPN will opt for the latter. But is that medically advisable? Is a doctor going to okay that decision? I think a lot of decisions will be made because of money regardless of whether or not it’s the best thing for these kid’s health.

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  18. Mayor

    Just cancel the season. I don’t like it but that is the responsible thing to do.

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  19. dawgxian

    Relax folks. If we can have massive rallies and no one worry, then the virus isn’t a big deal

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  20. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    More positive tests are good things. More positive antibody tests are even better. There is a good likelihood that we never have a vaccine for covid-19 as there are other versions of coronavirus that have no vaccine.

    We need to learn how to live with this virus, which again, is nowhere near as deadly as some people keep on stubbornly believing it is going against all available data.

    It’s amazing how “trust the science and believe the data” from people who believed the worst are now ignored by the same people because the new science and the new data go against what they want to believe.

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    • Russ

      It’s amazing how you ignore the science and officials responsible for the well being of countries around the world. Countries that have opened up are talking about shutting down parts of their countries again. I guess to make Trump look bad or to feed Bill Gates’ vaccination machine or something.

      I read lots of shit on the internet just like every other expert here, but at the end of the day, I’ll trust the consensus of scientists and nations that literally have nothing else in common than avoiding a pandemic.

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    • Mayor

      I had a friend die of Covid-19 3 weeks ago.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I’m sorry for your loss, truly I am. However, does your loss change any actual facts about the virus? The problem is everyone thinking emotionally when we should be thinking dispassionately with reason and logic devoid of fear.

        We can be safe and go back to rebuilding our lives. Even with the fact that covid-19 remains less dangerous than the flu or pneumonia for all healthy people under the age of 60, it is far more deadly than the flu or pneumonia for those over the age of 60 or for those younger with complications. We must remember that and be safe.

        Again, I am sorry you lost a friend.

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  21. Macallanlover

    I have said all along, I don’t think CFB plays games this season, but if they do it will be between 0-33% of the season. All this “they have to do it for the money” is over exaggerated BS, imo. Sure they want to play it, we all want that, but in the end it just isn’t going to work, too many people simply terrified, of the virus and the lawyers.

    And football fans no more idiotic about this virus than the politicians and medical “experts”, all of whom have been proven wrong on at least one prediction. Some folks are dumb for thinking everyone should cower in a ball in a corner until every single person is vaccinated and guaranteed they will not be afflicted with COVID-19…ever, while others think they are invincible and the virus is no worse than the garden variety flu we see every year. Not a large percentage of people in the two extreme categories, but those in large gray area are certain to be right, but there is no way to know yet if it is those in the risk taking side of the middle, or the play it safe side. Fact is, attacking any of those in the gray area is pretty foolish at this point, whether they be light gray, or dark gray.

    I know common sense isn’t very common these days, but hearing a lot of different takes from each side as info becomes available helps, but using your own judgement after listening to them and balancing it all from “both sides” seems to work best. We all knew washing our hands vigorously more often, then watching where our hands go, staying away from crowds, wearing some sort of covering over your face/hands (even if not medical grade) when among other people when inside buildings, was your best chance. This virus isn’t going to end the population on Earth, but it deserves some respect; especially from those of us in the more vulnerable groups. That doesn’t mean you cannot, or should not, go out and have a life. Just do so with more caution, and with people that you know, and know how they are taking care of themselves. This has been handled so poorly by many, and things are going to be really fucked up for a long time; it didn’t have to be this bad. I fear those who think it will go totally away are naive, we are going into rough waters and we should all be very angry about it.

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    • ASEF

      I would agree with pretty much all of that.

      I do think the universities will do everything they can to make college football happen, up the point they can reasonably be accused of being reckless. Not the alarmists on Twitter – the grey area people.

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      • Macallanlover

        I agree schools, and others, will certainly work hard to play games, but the deck seems stacked against them. This blog is filled with passionate CFB fanatics, even here there is little support to have much or any sickness risk; we are not close to being able to guarantee safety, and won’t be by year’s end (from everything I read.)

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        • Mayor

          I am unconvinced that without playing to close to sold out stadiums the schools would be making a profit playing games. How long would they play if they realized they were losing money each game they played?

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  22. spur21

    Testing is essential but not the end all. Hospitalization is the real measure of what we / they are facing.

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  23. And here comes riots 2.0. Now with practice and more anger.

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  24. Gurkha Dawg

    I guess how much you test is how important you feel CFB is. If it’s absolutely essential then don’t test anyone, unless they are symptomatic. Then if positive, make their contacts wear a mask. The point being, the fewer tests you do the fewer positives you have. Before y’all attack, consider this: I am a physician at a large hospital, no physician is tested unless they do it voluntarily. You know why? If too many of us test positive then how’s the hospital going to operate? That’s the practical side of this.

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    • I don’t get your point.

      If I love CFB I should want to test as little as possible to hide the true infection rate?

      Please tell us where you practice medicine so we can avoid you like the plague (or SARS-CoV-2, as the case may be).

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      • Gurkha Dawg

        My point is: if you want to see CFB played, then test as little as possible. Is it the best way to prevent the spread of the disease? No. I never said it was.

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        • Still doesn’t make sense to me. It would make sense if you specifically said, “If you want to see CFB played in an unsustainable manner… say for about 8 weeks and see it all implode when a massive number of athletes show symptoms and a few even get gravely ill and/or die,” then yeah, I agree, test as little as possible.

          But I actually want to see a CFB season that protects the players and sees a season through to “the end” — whatever that looks like. Doesn’t that mean test as much as possible?

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  25. Mike Swope

    Senator, what’s your point?!?
    They tested positive for Covid and have symptoms. It’s a virus dude. When you have the flu, you also have symptoms. Never would have taken you for a fear mongering mf’er but you sure as hell are.
    Yes, Covid is dangerous for old people and people that have pre-existing conditions but where is the data that shows it’s dangerous for college aged people with no pre-existing conditions?? The data I’m seeing says 1.6% of people under 25 wind up in ICU and 95% of that 1.6% have pre-existing conditions. What are you trying to accomplish by putting these negative spins on this?

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    • I thought you were asking rhetorically, but then I saw “The data I’m seeing”. People like you are the point of my post.

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      • Mike

        I’m not sure I understand what that means.
        Do you think the data from the CDC, where these numbers come from is inaccurate?
        Or do you think we should cancel football even thought the SCIENCE (Data) shows that over 99% of people that are under 25 have similar symptoms to the seasonal flu?

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        • I don’t think I can help you. If you’ve been reading the blog for any time, it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what I think on the topic.

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          • Mike

            My understanding is that you’re genuinely worried about the players well being AND annoyed the administrators, coaches, etc are trying to coral young people into playing a game that benefits the administration and University.
            I get that. However, there has been millions of people infected and we have hard data on how it effects young healthy people worldwide.

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