“Mavericks and bus drivers”

No, the header isn’t about Gus Malzahn.  It’s about this premise:

… but when Barton Simmons, Tom Fornelli and I are breaking down quarterbacks for the best teams in college football, you’ll often hear the terms “maverick” and “bus driver” as a sorting tool.

Bus drivers get you to where you need to go on time. They are capable of leading a team to title contention and even winning a national championship … with the right pieces around them. But when judged individually, as players are in the NFL Draft process, they are not rated against their peers the way their teams were in college.

Mavericks, on the other hand, are elite. When they are judged against their peers, they are proven to be among the most talented quarterbacks in the entire country. To put an oversimplified line in the sand for this discussion: mavericks are first or second round NFL Draft talents while bus drivers often are Day 3 picks or go undrafted…

But two things have changed in the College Football Playoff era. First is the emphasis on elite quarterback play, which is a continuation of a trend that began before 2014 and extends to all levels of the sport. From hurry-up offenses to the read-pass option, the fate of a team is put in the hands of the quarterback more than ever…

Of the 19 quarterbacks that have started in a College Football Playoff game, 10 of them have been first- or second-round talents. Those 10 quarterbacks have combined for 13 playoff wins and four of the six national championships, including every title since 2016. The other nine quarterbacks have combined for just five playoff wins, four of them coming from Ohio State and Alabama in championship runs. Without Cardale Jones’ two wins in 2014 and Jacob Coker’s two in 2015, the playoff record of quarterbacks outside of that first two-round NFL Draft group is 1-7. So if you’re not Alabama or Ohio State, the odds of winning the national championship should you make the College Football Playoff are long if you don’t a maverick at quarterback.

Jake Fromm has that one win.  He should have had two, but I digress.

Anyway, where the piece goes from there is to note that Joe Burrow raised himself from bus driver to maverick in one season and then proceeds to look at who stands where in 2020.

The good news, if you’re a Georgia fan, is…

Teams with a maverick

  • Clemson (11/5): Trevor Lawrence
  • Ohio State (4-1): Justin Fields
  • Georgia (7-1): Jamie Newman
  • Texas (35-1): Sam Ehlinger
  • USC (60-1): Kedon Slovis

There’s no real need to elaborate on Lawrence and Fields. They’ve each proven their elite status on the field and both begin the year at the center of the national championship discussion. CBS Sports NFL Draft expert Ryan Wilson projects Newman joining Lawrence and Fields as a top-10 pick in 2021, noting that the move to Georgia has the former Wake Forest quarterback on “everyone’s first-round radar.”

The amusing news, if you’re a Georgia fan, is…

Trask had a great season in 2019 and there’s no question the Gators are entering the fall in a position to displace Georgia from atop the SEC East and therefore are on the short list for national championship contention. At the moment, however, he’s rates closer to a bus driver than a maverick and needs to take a step in his second season as starter to reach the level seen by the most successful quarterbacks of the playoff era.

Assuming he beats out Jones for the starting spot this season, that is.

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32 responses to ““Mavericks and bus drivers”

  1. NotMyCrossToBear

    Maybe Trask will prove me wrong, but I just wasn’t that impressed last year.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      It’s because on passes that traveled beyond the line of scrimmage more than 10 yards in the air, he was one of the worst QBs in CFB last year.

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    • Russ

      Trask would be fine if he was surrounded by stars at RB and receiver protected by a dominant line. He’s not in that situation.

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  2. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Kyle Trask isn’t that good. He was made to look good by some pretty good receivers, most of whom are no longer there.

    Reality is gonna drop like a ton of bricks of MuLLLen, FU fans, and idiot pundits who think Kyle Trask is the best returning QB in the SEC this year.

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  3. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    I’m going to be really pissed if the powers that be screw up this season with all the great possibilities that may not get to enjoy.

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  4. Macallanlover

    There is a reason Trask couldn’t win the starting job for the last 7-8 years in both HS and college. My guess is he will be average, or slightly above, just as he was last year. I am not going to say he is trash, an average QB on a team that usually makes the Top 20, especially in the SEC, isn’t to be sneezed at. He just isn’t someone that looks as if he can overcome the other deficiencies FU looks to have. Along with losing the 2 best players on their team last season, both on defense, they still have below average OL returning, without a marquis running back.

    Their schedule is the only reason they are given a shot to slip into the East title, well, that and the media needs to play up someone in the East besides UGA just for click bait. They have about as good a chance to pull the upset and dethrone UGA in the East as Auburn does Bama in the West. Possible, but it will require some Malzahn type luck with injury/sickness timing, fluke calls, etc. Only LSU has a group talent level close enough to UGA and Bama to win straight-up on the field without help.

    All that said, I really don’t see Newman as talented as he is projected to be. Don’t get me wrong, I hope he makes me eat those words. I watched him 2-3 times, only once for a full game, and I just don’t see it. I admit that Wake offense was a little gimmicky with that “shared ball” option they ran so many times. Perhaps a better offensive scheme, more talent, and a play caller with some diversity/creativity will allow him to bloom. Until I see it, I am thinking we take a step back early in the season on offense, and may need another QB to step in if we are to make a stretch run November and December. I don’t care a bit what number is on his back, I am just pleased we have enough options that one will step up and lead us. I do think Newman has earned the opportunity to take the first team snaps until proven that he can’t deliver. While I hope that time doesn’t come at all, the SEC will hit him harder, at faster speed, more times than he received in the ACC, I hope we get someone extra snaps whenever we get the chance. UGA has been very fortunate with QB health in recent years.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Newman is going to be good and the offense is going to be better. He didn’t have jack to work with at Wake, and then injuries took out the top two pass catchers he did have.

      The NFL scouts see something in him, and Vegas does, too. Those are two institutions, that when they’re wrong, they pay for it. So they put in the time to not to be wrong.

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      • Gaskilldawg

        The Georgia coaching staff sees something in him, too. No offense to fellow amatuer observers but i have more faith in folks who evaluate QBs for a living than I do people duch as me and Maccalsnlover. Doesn’t matter how impressed with him we are because our evaluations don’t count.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          Agree. Tha the Georgia coaching staff happens to also agree with NFL Scouts and Vegas re: Newman is heartening.

          Look, I know some people here always embrace their inner Munson, but the Chaney/Coley offense finished. Monken is not that guy. Yes, we still need to see if Kirby will truly take the governor off and let him score at will or if he will continue to be a play not to lose coach. I am going to be hopefully Kirby has changed. I didn’t expect him to effectively fire Coley be demoting him. I expecting Kirby to do Kirby things and be stubborn in the face of needing to change. That he made that change makes me hopeful he’ll make changes in how he approaches letting his offense play, too.

          If he doesn’t, he doesn’t, but as of right now, I have that hope he does.

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    • TN Dawg

      Jake Fromm 2019 Heisman odds: 14/1
      Jake Fromm 2019 Draft projections: Early to Mid First Round

      Jamie Newman 2020 Heisman odds: 16/1
      Jamie Newman 2020 Draft projection: Mid to Late First Round

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        Coaching and the talent around you and how the coaching uses that talent goes a long way. If the Jake Fromm, who played in a better offense and had better position coaching from previous years played in 2019, he WOULD have been drafted probably somewhere mid second round. Until the Sakerlina game, he was still being talked about as a late first to mid second round draft pick.

        Does context matter to anyone?

        Are you telling me Wake has equal talent to Georgia or equal coaching? Last year on offense, their coaches were probably as bad as Coley, and their talent certainly was much worse. Monken however, is better than both the Wake offensive coaches and Coley, and will make a huge difference for Newman. If Jake had stayed, Monken would’ve made a huge difference for him, too.

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        • TN Dawg

          No, I’m not telling you that.

          Im telling you that NFL and Vegas prognostication are not always accurate predictors of success, even when dovetailed.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

            And again, they prognostication would’ve been correct had Fromm and offense’s coaching been competent in 2019. If Monken was the OC last season, for instance.

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          • Gaskilldawg

            So you are saying Newman will beat Tennessee, Florida, Auburn and Tech? Sounds good to me.

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            • TN Dawg

              I have no idea what will happen.

              So no, I’m not really saying anything other than projections, be they from Vegas oddsmakers, NFL scouts, talking heads on television, or insightful blog posters, are not directly correlated with success or failure.

              Mccallan could be right, he could be wrong. Time will tell. But you can’t evidence away his perspective by pointing to sources that are allegedly more accurate predictors.

              Jamarcus Russell was the Number 1 overall pick.
              Reggie Bush was to be the next HoF back.
              Vince Young would be the quarterback of the future.
              Tom Brady was a late round flyer.

              Speculation is speculation.

              The only thing that will prove or disprove one person’s speculation on future events is when those future events morph into historical events,

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  5. Gurkha Dawg

    Bumping Newman up to elite status is a bit of a stretch. I am mainly worried about how he will perform against elite defenses like bama and in the playoffs against tOSU and Clemson. 41 yards against Clem? I think we will handle everyone else with relative ease.

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    • Clemson’s D line vs Wake O line is ….yikes

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        Context is for losers, chuckdawg.

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        • Gurkha Dawg

          In 1989 Brett Favre led Southern Mississippi to a win over FSU who ended the season ranked #2. That’s what great QB’s do. But yeah, context.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

            It was the first game of the season, played at 11:30am, at a neutral site.

            For Southern Miss it was their Super Bowl, their Daytona. FSU obviously took them lightly.

            There’s some context for you to contemplate.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

            Oh also, it was played in a half-full stadium.

            No one was excited to play that game or see that game. Except Southern Miss.

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            • Gurkha Dawg

              You’re right, no way Burrow or Tua would have been able to throw for more than 41 yards against Clemson.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                You’re going to want to be Larry Munson about Newman and no one will dissuade you. The amount of injuries Wake had suffered on offense through the year, their terrible d-line, and also the coaching… none of that matters. All that matters is Newman having a bad game.

                You do you, man. You know more than NFL Scouts, Vegas, AND Kirby Smart.

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                • Gurkha Dawg

                  I didn’t say Newman wasn’t going to be good or even great. I’m just worried about when he faces elite defenses. Last year about this time I posted “Our offense will be unstoppable this year. They will be able to score from anywhere on the field anytime they want.” I can chug kool aid with the best of them. If that makes you feel better, go with that.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  I’m not chugging Kool-Aid. I have hope based on people smarter than me telling me I should have hope.

                  Chugging Kool-Aid is what the ‘turds do when it comes to their certifiable believe that Sideshow Dan the Clown is the superior coach and developer of talent to Kirby, all reality and facts to the contrary.

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  6. TimberRidgeDawg

    Mullen will have Trask injured and on the bench from running him like a fish out of water before Jacksonville.

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  7. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Hey Senator, I don’t know if you’d want to put in the legwork, but I’d love to see someone put together the differences between the idiot punditry and NFL Scouts and Vegas oddsmakers when it comes to a Newman vs. Trask breakdown.

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  8. Down Island Way

    Should the starting qb at FU be this jones fellow, trask will still be the best qb at FU sitting on the bench…..#FTMF

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  9. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Also, wandering over to Alligator Alley and reading all those ‘turds so hopeful that Carroll the 4-star RB would flip from UGA to FU only to then see the moment he tweets that he’s committed to Georgia and shutting down his recruitment is the best kind of awesomeness.

    All those Floriduh hopes and dreams for like 5 pages gone in a puff of smoke and more recriminations about their shitty RB Coach. What a perfect way to spend half an hour on a Sunday.

    #FTMF

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