Competing interests

Shot.

“I’m hearing there are many more cases we don’t know about. That’s to be expected, but I think this is more widespread and a larger volume of cases than people realize in college football,” Rutledge said. “I’m getting a sense of concern from players that wasn’t there just a couple weeks ago. There’s actually some players who are trying to figure out how they could write a letter to the NCAA expressing their concerns. But here’s the problem— they want to remain anonymous because they’re concerned that all of the sudden maybe a university would say, ‘Hey, if you’re that worried about this, just quarantine and don’t play.’

“It’s a double-edged sword that while they’re worried about their health, they still really want to play football and want to be given a fair chance to compete. This will continue to be very complicated and I think you’ll see a lot more schools have to enforce quarantine. And still, all of the (athletic directors) and coaches I’ve spoken to are planning on starting college football on time.”

Chaser.

In terms of Tuscaloosa, a year without Alabama football would be financially catastrophic for the Druid City. According to Mayor Walt Maddox, a season with no football would lead to a $2 billion loss in revenue.

“It would be economically catastrophic for Tuscaloosa if there is no football season,” Maddox said to CBS 42. “Even a mitigated football season with restricted attendance and number of ball games would have dire economic consequences.

Alabama football accounts for a significant amount of the states economic income, for it has pulled in a roughly estimated $175.5 million according to statistics released from the university back at the conclusion of the 2015-16 season.

Despite the potentially devastating numbers there is still hope to be had that the season takes place in some form this season.

Leave the fucking bottle on the bar (because I agree with Finebaum).

“I think college football is even more difficult than the NFL,” Finebaum said. “There’s nowhere to go to be in a bubble. You have programs all over the country with different economic situations and testing protocols. I think even if we get to a season, you will see teams that will not play or will not play a full season. It’s going to be a jig-saw puzzle of epic proportions.”

After all, when they say it’s about the money, it’s about the money.

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34 responses to “Competing interests

  1. Scuba

    ( I agree with Finebaum ) even more surprising to me than reading that here.

    I agree with him too. New how to stay sober at your tailgate ( when ever that happens) drinking game. Every time Paul makes good sense you can take a drink.

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  2. SpellDawg

    Can we just play UF? One game season, that’s all I need.

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  3. mddawg

    I wonder how many different ideas they’ve come up with for modified schedules. Having teams play only in-state schools? Only playing your major rivals? I bet they’ve come up with some crazy shit.

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  4. Cynical Dawg

    If your business’ life or death depends on six Saturdays a year, then you have a shitty business plan.

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    • You do realize places like Athens, Auburn, Clemson, and Tuscaloosa are towns that would be a bump in the road if not for the universities that sit in them? Small business owners in Athens especially downtown tread water for the other 45-46 weeks per year to earn their profit on home game weekends. It’s the main driver why some locals want the Cocktail Party to go home and home.

      Sure, the places that mainly serve the full-time Athens resident won’t feel much of the economic pain of a lost or reduced football season. Some of those businesses will feel it when those business owners who do depend on football season close up shop and move on or reduce their own demand for goods and services.

      A lost football season would be disastrous for Athens (think of the sales tax revenue), the University (I don’t need to elaborate), many businesses (I bet 25% of businesses in downtown would close permanently), and local people (unemployment).

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    • Biggen

      I’d wager you have never owned a business.

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    • Bright Idea

      Just like Augusta depends on one week a year. I could go on.

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    • Username checks out. Not a great take imo. As a Savannah resident , we have St Patricks Day festivities every year ( obviously). That one weekend here in Savannah makes up a large percentage of yearly revenues for many many businesses. So I think no football would crush many places, including Athens.

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      • DawgPhan

        I doubt that it is as extreme as you all make it out.

        I worked at loco’s all through college. A gameday weekend was always busy, but the nooner against ULM wasnt busier than just an average weekend during school. The big night games would pump up sales a good bit, but we might go from like 5-6k to 10k, a big jump but not enough to float the restaurant for a whole year.

        Businesses in these college towns live off the students and their parents money from day to day. The games are just gravy. Take the games aways and the best would survive and the weak businesses would die.

        I think that tourist like to think of themselves as heroes to the local economy, it helps make up for them treating everyone like shit and then leaving town.

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        • Silver Creek Dawg

          I grew up in Savannah and many of my HS classmates own businesses there. He’s not far wrong; tourism in general is their lifeblood and St Patty’s Day in particular gives them the ability to build a cushion. Why do you think they bitched so badly when the City Council came up with asinine decrees like fencing off River Street and charging people just to access the riverfront?

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    • PTC DAWG

      I don’t think you understand…

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  5. Atticus

    Just for shits and giggles, who does everybody think stands to make the most money off of a college football season being played? Or not being played. Total revenue for every job that is affected? The ADS and coaches and school will lose out but its fact that the millions of people with jobs that will be lost is far greater.

    And with respect to the cases increasing narrative and we can’t possibly have a season with all these terrible cases increasing, its nonsense. The death rates are WAY down.

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    • According to the AJC yesterday:

      In GA, in “long-term care facilities”: 6,591 positives, 1,182 deaths.

      Outside long-term care facilities: 51,422 positives, 1,460 deaths.

      So, outside LTCFs, the death rate from Covid in GA is 2.8% of positives.

      Also, according to today’s chart on the GA Dept of Public Health website, 8.0% of Covid tests done so far in GA came back positive. Also, of the 65,928 confirmed cases in the state so far, 2,648 (4.0%) people have died; 9,953 (15.2%) have been hospitalized; 2,155 (3.2%) have been put into ICU.

      https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

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  6. Union Jack

    College football players should be worried about the virus because new cases are on rise with children, teenagers and young adults.

    “At the beginning of June, about 15% of Georgia’s news cases were 18- to 29-year-olds. A few weeks later, that number jumped to 27%.”

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/06/19/880912184/younger-adults-are-increasingly-testing-positive-for-coronavirus

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    • Atticus

      Yes it is an issue but the only thing that matters is the death rate and it has been significantly decreasing over the last month. This gets NO mention in the media only the explosion of cases. Of course we have cases and they are increasing because more people are exposed and will have to be unless we sit in our homes until a vaccine is done. That can’t happen. So case increase. But we protect the at risk and make common sense decisions. Are these young people getting very sick? Are they being hospitalized or dying? Are we testing more? If the death rate turns back up then that is the time to get really concerned.

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      • Russ

        I think the hospitalization rate is more important. If people are getting sick enough to need hospitalization, then that starts to affect everyone, even those hospitalized without COVID.

        I’ve come believe that we need a good, proven treatment method and then we can start to get back to normal. The vaccine will be the icing on that cake.

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        • Macallanlover

          The death rate is the concern point, otherwise this is business as usual with no societal shutdown, don’t kid yourself. Second, don’t be naive about hospitalization numbers. Not minimizing the medical need for certain patients, many of them are real, and serious. But hospitals, doctors, nurses, radiologists, etc., etc., are a business; and since March/April many of them are starving for business. Remember all the hospitals that said they would have to close and lay workers off if things didn’t change?

          The cancellation and slowdown of elective surgeries, minor surgeries, postponed tests, visitors, cafeterias, parking, and other sources of income that dried up jeopardizing many jobs, and made it difficult to make payments on equipment that is sitting unused at hospitals, doctors’ offices, and medical parks all over the country. Increased cases and empty beds made it easy to be cautious and find a need to keep patients that would ordinarily be sent home. Don’t think hospital administrators and doctors aren’t protecting the jobs of those who work around them. Like everyone else, they see it as insurance money, and government money so it is no big deal, and they know how to “code” the charts to make sure nothing is contested.

          Just like the mayor in Tusky, they pad the numbers. No question the loss of a few big weekends costs the city and merchants some extra profits, but $2BB is an inflated reach to explain why they need more taxes, or larger budgets. Every municipality uses that technique when they speak of big events, they never err estimating on the low side. It isn’t like those hotels, restaurants, and bars are empty on other weekend nights.

          We have all been to Athens, and other college towns, on non-football weekends, there are usually some rooms open, and people aren’t standing in line at some of the bars but most people can see how attractive those businesses could be if run correctly. Other towns without colleges to insure a 12 month economy would gladly change places, even if there were no football team involved. That said, no CFB this year is going to be a big adjustment for many of us, and will likely cost some long term damage.

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    • New cases are definitely rising due to opening back up and protests/riots. The death rate for this demo almost doesnt exist, you would have more of a chance getting struck by lightning than dying from Corona if you are 18-25.

      Think about where we were 10 weeks ago. Now think about where we will be 10 weeks from now. I hope teams that can keep soldiering along safely and lets see how we look as we get into August. Dont buy into the fear porn yet.

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      • Union Jack

        This is not fear porn and these are asinine takes. It is fatalistic.
        It is a blessing that COVID death rates for young people are low but just because the death rate is not higher we shouldn’t worry about the rise of COVID cases in these age groups? The rise is not surprising for two reasons:

        Schools were the first institutions to shut down when the virus began to take hold so exposure for young people (including college age students) was limited.
        As a rule of thumb, young people engage in more at risk behaviors when it comes to health.

        Whether it is COVID, flu, shingles, hantavirus, syphillis, etc – a full-blown epidemic is cause for concern because it disrupts the system whether we like it or not. Life isn’t lived in a vacuum and younger people don’t only interact with younger people. They have parents, grandparents, bosses, employees, co-workers, customers, teachers etc etc so it rise in young infection rates can cause a rise in older groups.

        I want college football this fall. I anxiously await the resumption of Atlanta United. I have a business that has had 60% drop in yr over yr revenues. But I am also a realist who believes that we need to do this right way even it is painful because doing it the wrong way only will prolong the pain.

        We should be especially concerned with the rise of infection rate in young people who also are asymptomatic, because they will be contagious and do not realize it. This is a new disease and we cannot just assume that death rates and transmission rates in a short time frame are forever rates. We have seen over the last few months policy changes as we learn more about COVID over time.

        If the rates for young people go up, it limits our ability to fully re-open. This fall we need kids back in school so parents can be free to work as needed. It is imperative for the economy. Opening up schools needs to be combined with frequent testing and contact tracing.

        Best practices have been developed to bring sport back to the public but for the most part college athletics is adopting only a few of them. The can reduce the risk by mandatory testing with or without symptoms 2-3 times per week. They can commit to quarantining athletes and athletic personnel (utilizing online classes if needed) to reduce team interaction with the general public. Other needed game day personnel – staff, officials, media – should observe the same. Want to reduce the risk – everyone follow the same policy. It might eliminate some seasons at some institutions but if the majority agree to it, we might be able to have a season.

        Really do it correctly and you might be able to get some fans in the stands.

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  7. I dont believe Laura Rutledges take, at all. I have an 18 yo son at home , and from what I can tell , he and his friends are aware of the virus but honestly they dont give it much thought. Also many of these kids wont make it to the NFL without a season, so Im just not buying it.

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  8. Bulldawg Bill

    I think it’s pretty obvious that the NCAA is banking on Herd Immunity for the players. Keep ’em relatively isolated and accidently/inadvertently introduce the virus. The demographic involved is not high risk; most will be asymptomatic. Most that do get sick will only be out a few days. By the time the season starts most of the “herd” will have the antibodies. Just have to take precautions for the older/vulnerable staff. It ain’t that complicated!

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  9. Ran A

    If you are smart, you invest in aggressive testing protocols across your conference and you require certain protocols from any team outside of the SEC the week before a game with the results provided to the league. Do not agree – not playing and we’ll see you in court.

    You look after your players, staff, and coaches first – it should be your first priority, because these kids belong to your University and invest a lot of time into helping the program.

    From the financial standpoint – look after your players and you can play football, with your team feeling safe and good about it.

    Spend whatever it takes to protect those kids.

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  10. Salty Dawg

    Take this with a grain of Salty Dawg but could the Italian doctor who said the strain is weakening be correct? Maybe it’s not age that is the factor but the fact it is weakening. I don’t have knowledge about how that all works but could be plausible it seems. That also falls in line with the death rate dropping (thank goodness).

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  11. W Cobb Dawg

    We have no idea what the long term effects will be from Covid-19, so let’s experiment with our youth. All those who really don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves will be safely sheltered away from the players, a handful of people will continue to make obscene amounts of money, and the kids can deal with the problems later.

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    • Atticus

      A handful of people? Tell that to the MILLIONS of people who will be out of jobs. Common sense. 330 million 125,000 deaths. Do the math. Don’t play. Don’t go to school. America is a free country.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      exactly. We know that the waiters and bartenders in Athens bars and the house keeping folks in the hotel industry are a bunch of millionaires and billionaires. They deserve to lose their job.

      #stayathome

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  12. AceDawg

    Only thing I can note about the sports revenue stuff is that people will eventually spend their money somewhere one way or another. Tuscaloosa will locally lose out on revenue as would the university, but unless a lot of Bama fans are travelling IN to the state of Alabama to spend money at the games, it is not as relevant to the State of Alabama economy. The people living in Alabama are still going to dump their money into the Alabama economy in different ways. Probably hospital bills as the domestic violence skyrockets and Arby’s as the depression appetites pick up.

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  13. So finebaum said what I’ve been saying here for the last month? Figures.

    I live in a tourist area that’s been devastated 2 years in a row. I know that the high density surges are where most of the money is made. I’ve also heard my entire life how big a deal football weekends are for businesses. That guy that makes a few $1000s a weekend to park cars on private property…its a lot of money for him. On and on.

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