Defense, bitchez!

This is good, right?

But spring practice, something, something…

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35 responses to “Defense, bitchez!

  1. DawgPhan

    The defense should be hell on wheels when the season starts. I have to think they will be way out ahead of all the offenses this season.

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  2. JD

    Slightly unrelated, but I’m curious – maybe a poll?
    Would you rather:
    A) Play the season with no in person attendance with a 90% chance the season is played completely
    B) Play the season with limited in person attendance with a 70% chance the season is played completely
    C) Play the season with normal in person attendance with a 50% chance the season is played completely

    I’m making up the percentages (nothing fact based).

    For me it’s option A. I really want to see what this team can do and would be sorely disappointed (but understand) if it got cut short. While I have only missed attending 3 home games since 1997, I’d rather watch on TV than have higher risk of the season not being completed. For option B, I’m assuming I don’t donate enough to get tickets if capacity is reduced or at least get a partial ticket package that has good enough games to warrant the risk.

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    • siskey

      I would choose A but I usually only attend 1 or 2 games a year.

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    • I’m sure students (especially seniors in their last year in Athens) would completely be in agreement with option A … that’s the primary reason I won’t be participating live if fans aren’t welcome in the stadium. If option A (or option B where I don’t get tickets or have such onerous restrictions that attendance is more of a pain than it’s worth) is the answer, I’ll be planning to watch some highlights and read the Senator’s posts.

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    • Macallanlover

      We all want utopia, to have it all the way we remember it in best memories, but anything besides A in that group of choices is purely selfish. Yes, it makes a sad comparison based on optics, sound, experience, etc., but ultimately it is about the game and the players, not the fans in a facility, and nothing should be put in place of that. These athletes have been working for many years to reach this point in their development, CFB is grad school for them. Sure it would be better with Sanford filled to the rafters in a big game atmosphere, but those games go on with most fans not in attendance anyway, and will be the same whether any, or all, of us, are attending. Some folks are putting way too much on those personal desires, we should support this team as they adjust to a set of circumstances they didn’t ask for either. I don’t think we play any of this season but I hope these players get the chance to play at least half the season, even if it is in empty environments. That is best for them and us.

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      • Cojones

        Once again we are in agreement on another front. Well put.

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      • I hope the players get to play for their sakes (for most seniors, it’s probably their last chance to play the sport they love), but it doesn’t mean I have to support CBS and ESPN with my eyeballs.

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  3. Russ

    And yet, only 2 made All-SEC. Yeah, right.

    It’s a shame we won’t have a normal season to see this team wreak havoc. They could be a lot of fun.

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    • Anonymous

      Don’t get confused about what the guys at PFF are trying to measure. They aren’t measuring talent, disruption, play-making, etc. They are measuring whether or not the player did their job on the play. For example, if the player has outside run contain responsibility, did they properly set the edge by keeping their outside arm free while gaining outside leverage on the end blocker? If so, they get a pass. Did they pull a Leonard Floyd circa the 2014 Florida game where they abandon the edge in an attempt to backdoor a tackle which allows Kelvin Taylor to break outside for 37 yard gain? Then you get a fail, even if you are a 1st round pick.

      Our defense may not be full of All-SEC talent, but they all do their job to allow the defense to work as intended.

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      • McTyre

        Agreed completely on PFF. However, on the subject of this defense having any All-SEC talent, don’t be confused about what goes into what produces those lists … usually production in preceding years using the standard stats such as yards, touches, TDs, tackles, sacks, picks and the like. For that reason, Kirby’s defensive talent is derided as “no name” – a moniker usually associated with units that are better than the sum of their parts (“system” rather than talent). Anybody paying close attention knows that this is the deepest collection of D talent amassed under this regime and a good bit of the lack of returning statistical productivity by player is due in large part due to Kirby’s desire to sub liberally (keeping guys fresh for the 4th quarter and situational purposes). I couldn’t care less about All-SEC plaudits as the program is winning and Top-3 recruiting continues unabated as HS talent sees how Kirby develops talent.

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  4. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    The tweet about the returning offensive players with 100 snaps is even better, Senator. Did you see that one? Georgia has NINE players coming back with high grades. Only Bama has more with ten.

    FU only has ONE.

    Wow. Pops that particular idiot pundit balloon, doesn’t it?

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    • ugafidelis

      When a team like Bama blows most opponents out in the first half, it’s easy to get those backups a shit ton of snaps.

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    • Corch, those are eye-popping stats … That’s may be why we need to keep encouraging the pundit class to lavish as much rat poison on the Handbags as absolutely possible.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I’m torn, man. I’m absolutely torn.

        I don’t want the team to think as highly of itself as the 2018 obviously did, costing them in games they should’ve won, like LSU and Texas.

        But at the same time, I effing hate the CFB punditry and want to lay the “I told you so’s” on thick and with relish.

        I’m telling you… TORN.

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        • It isn’t either/or … we can hope for lots of Handbag rat poison and then have the “I told you so” in November when we hammer Dopey/Sideshow/Portal Master Dan MuLLLet and his overrated Towel Boy defensive coordinator sidekick.

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  5. FlyingPeakDawg

    The challenge for Kirby could be resisting his urges. If the D shuts down everybody, why take chances on offense? Then when he needs his offense, will Monken have it ready?

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      That’s a huge problem.

      Offensive players, especially QBs, depend on rhythm. If they have it going for three quarters but then you shut it down in the fourth quarter to try to run clock instead of just keep scoring (aka playing not to lose) then you purposefully take your offense out of rhythm and you’re unlikely to get it back if you suddenly need to score in the final minutes.

      It’s literally the worst thing a head coach can do. One can only hope Kirby has finally learned this lesson, because God knows he didn’t learn it from the 2017 National Title Game or 2018 SEC Title Game.

      Changing the OC doesn’t prove he’s learned this lesson. We have to get into game situations, tight game situations, to see if he’s learned. Will he stop being the coach who stops his own offense from scoring, who is scared to play to win, or will he truly make the leap Coach O made and take the governor off and score as many points as possible until the clock shows 00:00?

      We’ll see.

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      • Willing to say the lsu ass whippin’ may have changed CKS’s approach to game planning and how/what to do in situations, DNA is what rises up in Kirb’s thought process and dumps that whole plan…since CKS will play field position along with % football, “learning this lesson” doesn’t enter the equation, understanding where you want to go and how to get there is what pushes CKS…crootin’ and “D” Kirbs will get, pushing the football on the “O” side is what you hope CKS witnessed and serious case of the “don’t want to experience that again”…cause if he is a UGA guy (at heart) that game was a total embarrassment to your school

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          The thing is, the idea of what “winning” football means in the fourth quarter changed about 20 years ago. Really, it was 25 years ago, but I don’t want to give Spurrier the credit he deserves, because fuck him.

          Winning football is keep trying to score as much as possible as often as possible, in almost every situation, because the other guy’s offense can turn around and score in a hurry no matter how good your defense is.

          You should NEVER try playing the clock until you get under 4 minutes. To do what Kirby did in the 2017 National Title Game and the 2018 SEC Title Game, and try to play clock for the entire fourth quarter in those games was a gigantic mistake.

          When you get under four minutes, you can run the clock if you have a two score lead or more (10 points or more) to make the other team use their timeouts. It’s what the Falcons SHOULD HAVE DONE in Super Bowl 51.

          There’s still a place in football for trying to run the clock out, but the situation must allow for it. Under four minutes. Up two scores.

          If you’re up one score in the beginning of the fourth quarter and you try to run the clock, you’re going to lose. Just like we did.

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          • If you are going to play clock early in the 4th quarter in today’s game, you better have enough control of the line of scrimmage to make first downs. Running 3 read option plays with no QB run threat and punting is playing with fire and, with a 1 or 2 score lead, likely gets you burned.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              Even then, it’s the wrong play. You have to throw to win. You have to try to keep scoring. If you change everything that was working on offense, you know like running Sony Michel off the edge to suddenly running Nick Chubb into the teeth of the Bama defense right at Payne for less than one yard per carry, you’re going to lose.

              If running the ball is what you do, fine. But don’t change what was working to something completely different out of dumbass stubbornness.

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              • I totally agree. Just as a team becomes one dimensional playing from behind, a team playing with a lead can do the same thing. You have to run your offense and play with the intent of making first downs and scoring. Playing not to lose whether that’s turtle mode on offense or prevent on defense typically leads to losing.

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            • Any team can get lucky and hit a 50 yd pass. It happens all the time. It’s happened against us.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                It’s not just lucky. All the teams with spread offenses practices those situations.

                Yes, opposing defenses practice them, too, but when your offense is designed to spread the field and you have a mobile QB, breakdowns are far more likely to happen in the secondary leaving one or more men wide open down the field.

                That is precisely what has changed in CFB in the last 20 years. This is not luck. It’s designed.

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                • Of course I understand that but what I’m talking about is a team that’s not that good, that you have been controlling, and the game is slipping away towards the end, and they get a miracle. The tipped ball at AU the hail Mary with Tennessee. They multiple games I see every week of some small college that gets lucky. And it is practiced just like you said. I agree if you’re not up by 2 TDs (if not 15 pts) You have to continue to try and score. I wrote about this on dawgsports10 years ago about how the game was more offensive , how 35 was the new 20. Georgia fans love defense and have had a hard time accepting this shift. And you gotta be move the chains. If you’re putting because you’re conservative then you failed.. I genuinely hate leaning on defense. Because it is much harder on defense nowadays

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  There is no room in football, CFB or the NFL, for play not to lose football anymore. There is no excuse for it. Any coach who is scared to play to win shouldn’t be coaching.

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          • Down Island Way

            Let’s move on from the title game losses, serves very little (Tyler Simmons was on sides, the outcome of THAT play right there changed the out come of THAT game)…not gonna be the clock is ticking guy on CKS’s trophy case, i am that guy that hopes CKS is taking notes mental and written during both wins and LOSSES, staff meetings, alumni sessions, every missed play, every play that produces plus yardage so that the growth into that Head Coaching position gets a little easier to manage (if possible)….his base is very solid, his potential unlimited….his win streak against FU (#FTMF) , the barners, that north avenue fucking trade school all the sec east institutions reach triple digits in five years….it’s five o’clock some where

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    • Then 1st downs is your metric.

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  6. Admiral Sackbar

    All this dawg porn is making me all the more disappointed when they inevitably announce there isn’t going to be football this fall

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  7. I’ll drop this here. I had a gutter guy come by my house for an estimate today and I saw his Power T on the front bumper. I never announce my UGA fandom, but I start making a little small talk about how I hope there’s a season, and he says he hopes there’s one too because Tennessee has a got a good team this year. I throw him a bone and say that I think Pruitt’s a good coach and if anybody can do it, it’s him, but it’s tough recruiting against Saban and Smart. He replies ‘Yeah, but Pruitt out recruited ‘em both this year’. Well, let’s just say thank goodness I had my mask on…where are the hillbillies getting their football news??? (Side note: if you know of Dawg gutter person in the Nashville area, send them my way. Hate giving money to the enemy)

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  8. willypmd

    Someone ask Kirby about what happened to Bama’s defense

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