“Fans attending games, though, are assuming a level of risk by entering a stadium.”

Shocked face ($$).

The NFL is considering requiring fans attending games this season to sign liability waivers shielding the teams from COVID-19 lawsuits, sources said. The waiver proposal is likely to be forwarded to clubs by the middle of next week as part of a broad range of league recommended best practices for re-opening stadiums amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Even better, “It is probably something you do electronically, just trying to figure out the operational challenges associated with waivers…”  Yeah, those operational challenges can be a real bitch.  Compared to those, the aftermath should be a relative walk in the park.

I am under no illusions here.  The average fan who is willing to risk going to a game with 70,000 of his or her peers isn’t likely to be as worried about catching the coronavirus as in missing football.  Still, the NFL doesn’t sound like it’ll take any chances.

“I envision saying, ‘Hey, make sure you have your mask on when you come through to the next level,’” the source said. “I’d be careful calling it a checkpoint because I am not sure if that’s what it’s going to be. But make sure you have your mask on.”

Checkpoint implies responsibility.  Can’t have that.

Will this be a model for college football if implemented?  Does a wild boar pee in the woods?

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18 responses to ““Fans attending games, though, are assuming a level of risk by entering a stadium.”

  1. I think that’s the model we’re going to live with in society for large gatherings in the post-pandemic age. If you enter a facility, there are going to be postings, the fine print on tickets, or a card given at entry (or a combination of all of the above) that state you accept the risk associated with contracting a communicable disease when you walk through the gate and you waive the right to sue a host of organizations or performers if you contract a disease. That combined with common sense requirements will shield people from liability based on negligence. Otherwise, we’re never going to be able to have large gatherings again.

    It will be the same type of postings you see at the entrance to a thrill ride in a theme park. If you have any of a number of conditions, you shouldn’t participate.

    I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. It just is.

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    • junkyardawg41

      Totally agree ee. I think the baseball season will inform football this fall. Disney parks will be another data point to look at to see what things will look like — if at all.

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      • I’m doubting fans are going to be allowed in stadiums for the shortened baseball season.

        Universal has been open since the beginning of June. The question will be what will all of the theme parks look like when they return to full capacity.

        Interesting times …

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  2. Atticus

    Question: In light of no virus, and in light of the obvious fact we cannot shutdown, in light of the fact that masks do not fully stop the virus…..what is the solution forward? Just honestly asking.

    My two cents is this: We cannot stay quarantined or go backwards except in extreme cases and only temporarily. We cannot shut down large segments of business either in education, entertainment or hospitality. People will gather there. Masks will not stop it, hand washings and distancing are much more effective. Flattening the curve is only effective for one purpose which is to not overwhelm the health care system (which is not close to being overwhelmed), it actually prolongs the spread in other cases. CDC says over 25 million have had it and we have 130,000 deaths mostly in older demographics. The lethality is FAR lower than we were told by experts.

    Choice 1-We need to move forward, business need to open up fully there is no constitutional basis for deliberately preventing someone from earning a living outside of changing laws. Assume risk, limit large gatherings as much as possible, work from home if you can, protect the at risk.

    Choice 2-stop all large gathering until there is a virus. It really is that simple. This in between and back and forth is absurd. We knew the virus would spread when we opened up. We knew players would get it. Why act surprised?

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    • We don’t know nearly as much about the virus as you pretend we do.

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      • Atticus

        Who is we? I am not paid to determine the course of action. Fauci, Birx, Trump, Kemp….Governors, Mayors are. If we don’t know what we don’t know then how does that affect the 2 choices?

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    • The hospitality industry is flat on its back now. I’m a Million Miler with Delta and a lifetime Gold customer of Marriott/Starwood. I’ve decided I will not fly by choice until the mask requirement is lifted. We’ll do drivable vacations as a family, and I’ll move as many out-of-town business meetings to virtual as possible. For those meetings where in person is necessary, I’ll drive when I can and fly as an absolute last resort.

      The trickle-down effect of that decision (times hundreds of thousands – or millions) affects multiple sectors … parking, ride sharing, restaurants, rental cars, gasoline and hotels to name a few (not even to mention the direct effect on the airlines whose best customers – business travelers – reduce demand). The eventual impact of reduced demand on those sectors eventually affects other sectors including financial services. All of that eventually leads to lower tax revenues at multiple layers of government.

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      • Silver Creek Dawg

        I don’t have that kind of flexibility ee. I’m Diamond status with Hilton due to logging 100+ nights a year on the road visiting HS and community/technical colleges selling capital equipment. Virtual meetings just don’t cut it in my business. I need the personal interaction and site visits to do my job properly.

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        • SCD, I’m not a huge fan of virtual meetings whether video or audio. My clients are not back in their offices yet, so virtual is pretty much the only thing that can be done right now.

          When clients start requesting in person meetings again, I’ll be driving more than I have in a number of years. I have always loved the flexibility of jumping on a flight for a couple days of meetings rather than 4+ hours of drive time, but I really don’t have a desire to deal with air travel right now.

          I have no problem with the airlines’ requirement to wear a mask through the process. It’s their prerogative to keep their employees as safe as possible. I’ll just take that into account when I make my transportation decisions for personal or business reasons.

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  3. Cojones

    Bar openings have been a test tube model of what will happen. Some will cover, others won’t. This microcosm of crowd control works perfectly for study of athletic venues, especially stadiums.

    Personally, the small parts of the experimental openings provide a good milieu for large crowd study of how this virus can go through a population of adults(hopefully) who don’t like following civil rules to survive this virus, much less learning how to control it.

    The cameras will be on the stupid without masks and cheering wildly while emotional after a Dawg play on the field. The film of games should be helpful to the rest of us interested in finding a solution, especially since our first run at testing,isolation and sheltering succumbed to those addicted to the beach, bars, and partying. And the stupifying business openings done without protection for employees or customers.

    By all means, as a scientist. I’m most interested in this grand experiment of hope during a pandemic sponsored by an uncaring and dangerous virus. Can’t wait!

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    • Atticus

      So I ask you what is the way forward? How does life go on, how do people earn a living and how to prevent the virus from spreading until we have a vaccine?

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      • Cojones

        Had a finite answer that was thorough, but this fucking hand computer and phat phingets erased it.

        The chance to get ahead by testing, testing, testing and isolation to take away the red meat has almost completely gone by due to the present inundation of our health facilities nationwide. We will pay dearly for politicizing this pandemic a d the inaction that has followed.
        Take it upon yourself to do something by following the advice of the scientific experts you paid to solve these things for some time. Fauci has now proposed as a secondary method/ plan of action to test people as pools. If one in the pool is positive, isolate the entire pool for at least 14 days until no one tests positive for active disease. Pools that are negative can take responsibility to self-test going forward and take all precautions to protect themselves, family and their fellow workers.
        Everyone get involved in testing and take responsibility as a part of a team of fellow citizens/Dawgs to see that equipment and testing is present t to protect pooled groups. Think of yourself being the center of an ever-increasing circle that will join other circles of people engaged to fight this virus.

        Stop the selfish activities that help this virus by thinking unselfishly about your neighbors and think of how we all are in this together. Get off your Ss and do things for others beginning now. Who knows, it could end by flattening the curve before we lose another season of cfb. If not we will all be doomed to looking into the abyss after finding out how small and unimportant we are as individuals when it comes time to vaccinate.

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    • Tony BarnFart

      And protesting.

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  4. TripleB

    Georgia law already has a pretty protective “assumption of risk” body of law. Georgia courts routinely through out cases where someone does something with obvious risks and then gets hurt. Example, its pretty hard to recover for slip and fall when you walk in a store out of the rain, even if the store wasn’t real good about cleaning up, placing mats, etc., because slipping on wet floors is what you can expect when its raining.
    I think you are going to see a lot of suits over Corona dismissed based upon the fact that people at this point know the risks of going out with a reasonable degree of accuracy, even though there is a lot we don’t know about Corona. If I operated a stadium I would post all sorts of warnings everywhere, get waivers where I could, and institute some safety precautions (temp checks or the like). Of course, I would also like my legislature to pass some immunity as well.
    If you go then, you’re on your own.

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  5. FlyingPeakDawg

    Open the stadiums. Post warnings. Require waivers.

    And put a mannequin in a hospital bed on a ventilator at the entrance with photos of real people of all ages who have had to have treatment plus a list of those who have died in the State and number of available ICU’s.

    Informed people can then make their own decisions. This is no different than showing the wrecked cars of DUI victims at high schools, so spare me any offense at the notion. Two weeks ago as things started opening up, I was comfortable with getting back to social outings. After seeing so many flaunting even the most basic precautions and how challenged businesses are to respond, I’m far, far more leery and cautious of getting into public spaces with crowds. YMMV. Mask > ventilator.

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  6. I went to get gas and it was wide wide open. People on top of people.

    We went to the beach last sunday just to hang a bit, stopped in a parking lot, a restaurant had lines out the door with mixed groups standing and sitting all over each other.

    Right or wrong, I dont think theres a way to put a lid on it. You can only protect yourself

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  7. practicaldawg

    Alabama students offer a different model for dealing with the virus:

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