Reinvent or repair?

Hyperbole or not?

“They’re very excited thinking Jamie Newman is that, but you’re excited because you want to know what kind of player he is,” Pate said. “And the rest of the country does too. Let me tell you what the rest of the country doesn’t want to see. The rest of the country is totally fine with Georgia being dominant defensively. They’re totally fine with Georgia being able to run the ball. They’re totally fine with all that because they believe if they are, Alabama, or their Clemson if they’re Ohio State if they’re LSU like last year, they’re confident that they could drown you offensively. You can’t keep up. So, you do your bully ball over there. You build that defense, and you build that running and you build that offensive line, we’ll be okay. We’ll stretch you vertically. We will torch you, you won’t be able to keep up with us. But what they don’t want to see is Georgia look across the aisle and take a page out of their playbook.

“They don’t want to see Georgia modernize offensively. No one wants to see that because that means you potentially could have another tier one program. I already think they’re there, a lot of you don’t, because they haven’t won a national championship. Well, I think we can all agree if George’s offense is all of a sudden able to kick it up a couple of notches with the defense they already have established, yeah they probably arrived in the tier one category.”

Oklahoma tried to drown Georgia offensively in the Rose Bowl.  It didn’t work.  Georgia did a fair job limiting Tua in the 2018 SECCG, too.  LSU, admittedly, was a horse of another color, one that did a spectacular job of outpacing the Dawgs.

But count me among those who will be happy if all Todd Monken manages to accomplish as the offensive coordinator is this:

 “He’s seen it work at both the collegiate and pro level so he knows the spacing he’s looking for, he knows the timing he’s looking for and he knows how to drill it. He knows how to get the reps because, especially in college, you only have a limited amount of time you’re with those guys, a limited amount of time in the meeting room, a little amount of time on the field. He knows how to get the most out of his time.”

If “modernize offensively” means getting the mechanics of a competent passing game nailed down, then I’m down with modernizing.

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25 responses to “Reinvent or repair?

  1. Russ

    This damned virus.

    Yes, the bar is pretty low for Monken. He doesn’t need to completely retool the offense. Just put in some schemes that get our receivers open and loosen up opposing defenses. Then our running game becomes even more lethal. With our defense, we just need an efficient offense.

    Damn this virus.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Bingo. I never understood Kirby’s and Chaney/Coley’s refusal to throw when the box was stacked and more importantly, why all three of them completely gave up half the field (everything between the numbers) and gave the defense an extra defender (the sideline) on all throws.

      It was about as dumb an offensive design as you could possibly have. Something best left behind in Dooley’s era. Even the offenses with McElroy and McCarren weren’t that dumb. That offense would throw the ball if the defense brought the safety up, and those guys threw over the middle, and they weren’t half as smart as Fromm.

      I hate when bad shit happens that could’ve been prevented with better choices, and so many of the losses the last four years could’ve been prevented by making better choices, whether they be the choice to who runs the offense to the choice of how the offense should be run.

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      • sniffer

        Corch, I feel the pain and agree to a point. But me and you weren’t complaining when the Dawgs were having their way with Bama in the CFP Championship and the SEC Championship. That offense was humming. There’s evidence to support your larger point. There’s also evidence that the offensive coaches had the right stuff, too. But for what, 9 seconds over two games against Bama, we’re national champs and winners of two out of three conference championships.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          Not 9 seconds. 15 minutes. In each game. The entire fourth quarters of those games when Kirby and Chaney shut down the offense, thinking they could clock the ball like it was 1992 against one of the best defenses in CFB.

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  2. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Well Senator, remember how you were saying Broderick Jones could maybe start at tackle in game 1? We may have to rethink that. FFS. Stupid effing scooters.

    https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/reports-georgia-5-star-freshman-suffers-off-field-injury/

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    • We have scooter injuries here all the time….really don’t need a 300 pound man on a scooter. And no training required

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I rode a scooter during my time at UGA. It was the best way to get to classes as quickly as possible. I just wasn’t an idiot while riding.

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  3. 92 Grad

    This is the best distillation of the situation you have shared with us senator. Thank you. Hard to argue with any of that. True, we held our own against Ok but there was just something special about that team we had, I dont buy into kirby’s ability to repeat that regularly. And, LSU was a completely different animal, that was a special team too.

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  4. “LSU, admittedly, was a horse of another color, one that did a spectacular job of outpacing the Dawgs” While the statement is true I am not sure that it was as much LSU’s being great as it was our offense was quite the opposite. I believe the 2017 or 2018 teams would have fared as well or better than those teams did against AL.

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    • 10 pts and a wrath of bad stats. what happens when a poor oftense meets a good team. We couldn’t out bully or out tough or outman ball them. Kirby’s concept to be physically tougher and meaner is a very good one until you meet a team that has the same philosophy. Then you’ve actually do need a little bit of X and o’s over Jimmy and Joe’s.

      2 Turnovers, 3 of 13 3rd down, 20 of 43, 2.4 yards per rush.

      That’s called leaving your defense thrown under a bus against one of the most prolific offices in the history of college football.

      They likely would still have won. But you’re not winning against a team like that if can’t score 25 points.

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  5. Otto

    Everyone else does not want to see UGA with a productive offense and very much does not want a top tier offense. Chaney was productive. Coley as documented in various advanced stats was not.

    I think the Rose Bowl and UGA rushing stats under Chaney showsP that going more retro back to an I formation could be very effective. Defenses are built with speed to defend spread/shotgun formation. UGA was running the ball on anyone with Chaney.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Anyone but Alabama. And likely Clemson. Not enough to win it all.

      You have to throw to win. And you have to be willing to not play inside a phone booth. You can still run the ball effectively and get 1000 yard runners doing it that way.

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  6. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    I think I saw the LSU game is being replayed in the next day or so. I have avoided re-watching it, but I think if we could have gotten a couple of first downs and given the defense a little rest we could have hung with them. I’ll have a better idea after I watch it again. I would not say that when OK tried to drown us with offense that it didn’t work, because we were gasping for air with about 1 minute left in the first half. Blankenship threw us a life preserver, and we managed to get our breath and swim to safety in the second half.

    My point is that I don’t care too much how we get there, but we need an offense that can score. Best is if it can score on sustained drives that eat up clock, but scoring however you do it is fine. If we play this year, scoring touchdowns is going to be really important because we aren’t going to have Blankenship kick us to a victory.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      This idea about eating clock and staying on schedule simply doesn’t work against elite defenses that can beat you with speed and strength both. Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and LSU are like that. Yes, you can run all day on Oklahoma. Well, they’re not winning titles either.

      This is an outmoded idea that should’ve been driven out of your mind over the last four years. It’s not about “just a couple more breaks or first downs.” You can always make those excuses. The fact of the matter is, our offense even going back to Chaney was too easy to stop and bottle-up, and in the tight games you need an offense that can score 40 points on anyone, and quickly. Period.

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      • Down Island Way

        Not a side line coach here, wasn’t in the staff meetings, don’t know the %’s to play in down and distance stats…i do know, you have to dance with what got you there…1st team or 3rd team you still have to keep the play book open no matter the score or time in the game…you think a reliever in baseball throws underhand just because the hitter has a .200 average, he’s bringing the 95 mph fastball when needed….we know experience’s in life make humans smarter/better (?), ya just hope the change at the “OC” position is result from those experiences

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        • Got Cowdog

          Being able to bring the fast stuff makes the change up and the curve ball work. You can see the curve coming, but a good off speed pitch is impossible to deal with. Look under Maddux, Greg…

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    • FlyingPeakDawg

      Watch the Auburn replay for a reminder of how utterly constipated our offense was. On one crucial passing down, the WR and slot receiver on the left do a long and short out pattern while the TE does a short out right and the other WR goes straight up. No one has separation. Herring stays to block, no one in the center of the field, Auburn D line with big push on the edges so Fromm throws it to the TEs’ ankles incomplete. Saw that 1 million times last season. Just ugly.

      Really loved how some game day commenters defended this with “we’re winning so shut up!” not seeing how elite offenses were destined to destroy us. Question is…why didn’t Kirby?

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      • O man you’re giving me the flashbacks. I absolutely despised our passing trees. And you described it very well. Those routes you described allow the defense just to ride everybody out of bounds and bunch up.

        It’s so horrible.

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      • TN Dawg

        “Really loved how some game day commenters defended this with “we’re winning so shut up!” not seeing how elite offenses were destined to destroy us.”

        It wasn’t the game day commenters that were the problem, they’ll always belittle anyone that disagrees.

        Th problem is “How ’bout them f*cking Dawgs” and singing Rocky Top in the press conference.

        Blog commentators can have egos and loud mouths and dismissive attitudes towards reality. Their comments mean about as much as a pre-season AP poll once the season is gone.

        But when your coach and your QB have the same qualities, it’s gonna be a problem.

        You can ignore reality, but reality won’t ignore you.

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  7. 69Dawg

    Amen Senator.

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  8. practicaldawg

    Let’s be honest. There are only 1-3 teams in the country that can drown Kirby offensively. One of them left for the NFL last year (LSU). I’m not convinced OSU is one either.

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  9. ASEF

    The passing game would have been fun to see.

    (I’m trading my cautious optimism, which isn’t working, for fatalism. Sort of like changing shirts when the team is down 14 at the half).

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  10. W Cobb Dawg

    Funny, I don’t recall bama being in the cfp last season, nor the secc for 2 of the last 3 years.
    LSU 2019 was a one-off. It’ll be at least 2 years before they’ll challenge for a playoff spot.
    tosu got in the playoff ONCE since 2016.

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