Funny, but I’m old enough to remember when Clay Travis was reaming out the likes of ESPN and Nike for not sticking to sports.
It’s a stupid argument (although I suspect there are those of you who agree with him), but Travis has been a troll for a long time and there’s no reason for him to stop now. Combine that with some incredibly stupid takes he’s had on government involvement in sports and you’ve got quite the package.
So, a simple question born out of genuine curiosity: those of you who follow and like Travis, what’s there that makes you take an obvious grifter seriously?
And with that, hie thee to the comments section!
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Hell, I remember when Clay Travis actually made sense. It was like 12-15 years ago, but still.
Travis went to law school at Vanderbilt with a friend of mine whom I worked with at a previous firm. That guy said that Travis always seemed to be looking for an easy way out and that he thought Travis probably didn’t believe at least half of what he said — that he said it just to stir the pot.
I wonder if that percentage is higher than 50% now.
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My guess is that we would disagree more than we agree on politics. But I do not read this for political views. (Anybody’s political views). I read this to follow the Dawgs. In fact, it is one of the blogs I read to GET AWAY from politics. Can’t vote for Trump – he’s a racist (do your homework). Can’t vote for Biden – far to liberal for me and it is clear he is showing signs of dementia. Dusting of my ‘Vote for Snoopy’ shirt from the last election.
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That’s nice. We’ll be sure to remember your position in the days after this when it’s written that the U.S. lurched toward actual authoritarianism and pandemic catastrophy, but your personal privilege allowed you stay above the fray. (Yes, opting out IS a privilege.)
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Yes, candidates are always flawed because they are human, but the are not equally flawed. Make an effort to figure out for yourself which is least likely to make the country worse. If you and others like you don’t vote, or vote for someone who has no chance, then you leave the choice of our next president to the extremists such as neo-nazis on the right and antifa nuts on the left. Do you think these people can choose better than you? Is that really what you want?
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My father wrote in a candidate for the 2016 election. I may disagree with your decision to choose “none of the above”, as I disagreed with his, but it is your right, and I don’t believe you should be denigrated for it. I would, however, suggest that you select a non-fictional character to put your vote towards. There are enough cartoon characters in politics.
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I voted for the Mormon dude as a protest vote in 2016. But I had that luxury because I live in a state (Maryland) that was never in doubt for Hillary….
…honestly, I’m not sure what I would have done if I lived in a competitive state.
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Thank you for a sane response to the above. In contrast to the other posters who start cyber bullying someone who clearly states he isn’t voting for trump but also isn’t willing to vote for someone who he believes has dementia
I’ve never understood many liberals who preach inclusion and choices except when a conservative disagrees with them
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Not just a conservative.
Go see what “woke” white liberals say to black people and women who are conservatives or Trump voters (not necessarily the same thing) or centrists or even just liberals-not-Leftists.
Go see the disgustingly racist and misogynistic things they say to those people because they honestly believe their wokeism gives them cover.
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MAGAts on the other hand are well mannered:
https://twitter.com/Jwheels_74/status/1281324870010376192?s=20
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/507169-kansas-man-in-maga-hat-shows-restaurant-worker-his-gun-after
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I don’t know why you have a bigger problem with this more than anyone else:
Me saying that the woke people treat black people and women who don’t believe in their Leftist “grift” to use the Senator’s turn of phrase doesn’t mean that people on the other side do the same.
I expect that to happen.
Again, I never in my lifetime expected the “side“ I identified with to go batshit insane and embrace hate and lunacy. So I tend to be harder on who used to be my people. I’m very much a “get your house in order” person, and right now, the political Left in this country has gone insane. And no, Joe Biden with his obvious dementia ain’t fixing the problem.
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Nominating and electing trump is not sane.
Being against trump is extremely sane.
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It’s easy to be against something. It’s much harder to be for something.
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And to those who disagree with you, people who are nor racist, not homophobic, not any -ist you could think to label them… there are so many who disagree. Who see voting for Hillary or Biden, who legit has dementia, as the greater evil. The judgments you tend to pronounce on so many people (many of whom voted with you in 2008 and 2016) astounds me.
The biggest problem I have with what the political Left has become is the religious zealotry with which you believe. It makes those who don’t believe into enemies; makes them “evil,” and less than human.
I heard the same shit from the social conservatives in the 1990’s and 2000’s. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now. The difference between now and then is the media rightfully shouted down their hate. Now they promote and revel in yours.
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You are likely correct about possible dementia for Joe Biden. If someone is leaning that way to vote, remember that you will likely have the VP as your president before his term ends. It is probably the most crucial running mate pick in our history. If you are just voting against Trump, you may not care who the running mate is. Those of us who vote independently of party are waiting for Biden’s pick.
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Then that means we’ve degenerated into the Party Vote which is a serious threat to individual liberty and representation.
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@HiAltDawg … I don’t know if you have noticed it, but we’ve already degenerated into the party vote in this country. I guess you could say that we “technically” still have more than two choices. But in reality there’s only two that have a chance at winning. Maybe in the future we will see a ballot which has three legitimate contenders for the Whitehouse. But unfortunately, in 2020 there will be only two. The extreme directions this country is currently splitting itself into doesn’t make me hopeful for more than 2 anytime soon.
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“Makes them evil, and less than human.” That statement is very powerful. Defining your enemy as less than human is always the first step in genocide. It’s what the Nazis did to the Jews, the Turk’s to the Armenians, etc. The current crop of anarchists would fit right in with their Nazi and Turk heroes.
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Peace is war. Love is hate.
No what I’m saying?
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I can’t help but notice you’re leaving out the literal armed but unidentified DHS “troops” snatching people off the street out of your Nazi comparisons, even though that’s some literal brownshirt tactics. Over $6,000 worth of graffiti on one federal building in Portland.
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Again, they’re not unidentified. They’re wearing patches on their shoulders that identify their department.
And Antifa haven’t done $6000 dollars worth of damage to Portland. They’ve done MILLIONS over the last two months. Just as they did hundreds of millions in Minneapolis and tens of millions in Portland.
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The Playpen is becoming a one-stop-shop for all the juiciest reactionary views.
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Sure Will. If Trump wanted to go that route, we would already have had a Tiananmen Square massacre. That’s the kind of stuff your side does.
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Completely anecdotal but a HS friend posted a comment recently that i’ll paraphrase because i’m to lazy to find it. But it went something like this “If you’re against gay marriage, a living wage, universal health care etc etc, you are inhuman”. I commented something similar about characterizing all those who don’t believe the same as you a less than human. He never responded but I got some nasty responses from some of his friends.
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That is a bunch of horse shit. The GOP is the organization that brands people “RINO” while the democratic party is known for a much bigger tent for their members.
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If you think the Democrats are the same big tent they were even 10 years ago, you’re deeply delusional. And maybe that’s part of the problem. There is nothing big tent about the Democrats any more, not when you constantly have to take Neo progressive purity tests to survive that hive of scum and villainy.
I’m a liberal. I’m no longer a Democrat (neither am I a Republican). I didn’t leave them, they left me. My moral compass has stayed exactly the same. I modify some beliefs here and there, but at the end of the day I’m mostly the same person who believes what I believed when I was still welcome among “Democrats.”
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“Being against Trump is extremely sane”. But being against Hillary or Biden isn’t? In my lifetime, I never thought I’d see this country be threatened so much by the communist and socialist ideals the Left is now embracing. Trump was elected and will be re-elected because people are terrified of how far left the Democratic Party has gone and how badly we continue to need outsiders to fix our broken government, which is full of Swamp Creatures who cater to elitist billionaires instead of the general population who elected them.
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Trump fixed the fuck out of those billionaires!
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-billionaires-434-billion-richer-during-pandemic-report-2020-5
You are the product of “ideological subversion.”
“Ideological subversion” is a tactic used to change the perception of reality to such an extent that despite of the abundance of available information people affected thereby are unable to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
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So you think Trump has manipulated the pandemic to make himself and other billionaires richer? Save your ideological subversion argument for one of your chats with your Antifa “heroes”. He has called out China for causing this pandemic and he is the first President in decades to stand up to that incredibly racist (since we’re all so woke now, we should recognize this about them, right?) Communist country. Sensible isn’t defunding the police and allowing rioting thugs to destroy our (long-time Democratic controlled) large cities, sensible isn’t allowing open borders to freely allow anyone into this country no matter how much they hate it and want to harm to it. You’ve been brainwashed by “an abundance of available information” that supports your perverted beliefs. God help us all if Biden gets elected. Obama started us down this path toward socialism and Biden will push it further down the road. When we become a larger version of Venezuela, people like you won’t admit that you supported the destruction of a country….you’ll find someone else to blame it on because that’s what people like you do.
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I think that if you think his job was to prevent what has taken place, as described in the article I posted, he’s doing pretty shitty at the job you say you gave him.
This obvious inconsistency would, among those capable of it, cause one to think.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1285144689834958849
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Let’s try this.
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Just another reactionary, who I’m guessing is 70+….
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Is this your “ok boomer” moment? Ageism is ok, right? Saying someone’s opinion that’s different than yours is wrong “just cause old” is the thing now, right? I love the party of inclusion that continually segregates. I hope you’ll remember when you’re older all these things you said and did to the older generations. When your kids and grand kids Are full of shit. I mean my goodness people like you love trouncing people on the Internet and you get real savvy at it but ultimately you’re just a keyboard Warrior that has little respect in real life. That is a complete hypocrite. You go to bed calmly tapping your screen saying I did a good job today on those sports blogs and twitters and Facebook. I sure told those old people what time it is. I sure had some quick insults.
What a fucken loser you are man. I’ve seen how you show up here in the last month dropping insults here there. Nothing substantial. Just a good old Internet Warrior. I’m pretty certain you’re the alter of someone here. Just haven’t quite nailed who.
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You know, I’ve thought the Stranger might be an alter, too. I find it disappointing that he’s been allowed to insult others the way he’s done outside the playpen which is supposed to be verboten.
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You all seem very, very fragile.
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Call them cocksuckers, Stranger! That’s sure to demonstrate your superior intellect and coolness!
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I’ll call them what applies… fart
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Lame.
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Well, that eliminates Kanye, amIrightfolks?
Tip your wait staff
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Just to be clear – your argument is that Trump doesn’t show signs of dementia or a stroke, and is of sound mind and body?
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I don’t know what exactly paints Biden as a scary liberal, but he seems awfully moderate to me, and it’s kind of alarming how some see him as too liberal, others as too conservative, so maybe that’s not a bad thing.
Also, what signs of dementia? I see this getting thrown around, but he’s always been gaffe-prone. That’s not the same as dementia. And he’ll put much smarter people around him than Trump has.
Sitting this one out is a special kind of selfishness, but you do you.
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The better reason not to vote for Biden is that he’s a former segregationist.
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Dems can change
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Unlike the current segregationist in the WH?
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When you absolutely, positively want to do nothing for your country: sit it out.
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Some people refuse to vote for a party, Derek. They will only vote for people who are worth their vote, or at the very least, not a complete shit show. I call them people of conscience, which I admit is a bit self-serving.
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What’s wrong with picking the flawed candidate that you think is best for your country rather than waiting on the perfect candidate?
I bet there were Italians who wished they’d voted for one of Mussolini’s flawed opponents in 1924.
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Because if you support highly flawed candidates in this election, you’re more likely to get highly flawed candidates in future elections. We all have our breaking point about what is acceptable in a Presidential candidate, and I reached mine in 2016 when my party nominated Trump. I was never going to vote for HIllary, but I couldn’t vote for Trump either.
At that point, I felt the best thing I could do was to show the people who nominated Trump that they couldn’t count on my vote in November if they were going to be that irresponsible. I’m going to be sending that message again this November…just not sure if it will be Biden or another third-party vote yet.
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Not voting teaches those who strategize elections who they can ignore. Once you’re out, you’re out. There is no reason for any politician to give a rats ass what you think if you don’t participate. None.
Sitting out is an invitation to be ignored and they will take it.
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I vote in every election. Not sure what you’re talking about.
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Vote for Kanye.
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Isn’t it possible that someone could view abstaining from voting as the lesser evil?
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Yes, but they’d be wrong. The chances that both are equally bad is not possible.
Think of things like: who do you want to pick the next sc justice?
Do you want a 6-3 conservative majority or do you think its better if we stay at 5-4?
Either way, the choices are NOT equal.
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I never said the choices were equal. I can certainly see the merit of voting for the candidate who is least bad (or “best” if you want to call it that). But some people would rather vote for someone rather than simply voting against the worst option. And in the absence of that, if they choose to vote for no one at all, that’s their right.
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It’s what I did in 2016 and what I plan to do again in 2020. I cannot vote for Biden who obviously is suffering from early stage dementia. If this was the Biden from 10 years ago, I’d vote for him in a heartbeat because at least that guy was a pragmatist. But a vote for Biden right now is actually a vote for his Far Leftist handlers. I can’t do that.
And I will not vote for Trump under any circumstance.
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You typed a sensible sentence!
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South Park covered this over a decade ago. They kicked Stan out of town because he wouldn’t choose between a Turd Sandwich and a Giant Douche for the school’s new mascot. At the end his Dad told him that it ALWAYS came down between either a turd or a douche, so he voted. I think we are there.
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Vote or die, muthafucka.
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I came home in September, 1969 two months before my 20th birthday and couldn’t vote until the following November. That was after three years, two overseas. I don’t sit out elections. YMMV.
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I lost friends, guys I knew from Parris Island and for years after, in a worthless war we never should have waged in Iraq.
I sit out elections when there is no one I can stomach voting for, because I try not to be someone who compromises their character too much. Not to say I never do, but when it’s that important, my non-vote is in and of itself a vote. A vote of total rejection. Do with that what you may.
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I was thinking of that same episode as I scrolled/replied through the comments here. If I recall correctly, his vote didn’t even affect the outcome either. The final count was like 100 to 6 or something similarly lopsided.
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What is even more ironic is that the vote only was needed because PETA demanded that they could no longer use Cows as their mascot. You could play that episode now and it runs pretty well with current events…, i.e. Washington Redskins.
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Using some big round numbers just to suggest a point:
254 million people 18 plus in US eligible to vote.
128 million voted in the popular vote for president in 2016
So 126 million of us decided it wasn’t worth it? Why? Don’t care? Poison Ivy or poison Oak?
It’s a little disconcerting to me that almost as many chose not to vote as did.
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People tend not to vote when they don’t have Much interest in the candidates. I expect similar results this time. In fact if Biden loses I think it will be because of low democratic turnout due to disinterest in the candidate
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If Biden loses it will most likely be as a result of outright fraud. FIFY.
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I know you fascists have your excuses lined up. It’s actually the reason I’m gonna vote for trump.
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Replying to myself…
I’ll vote or not vote my conscience. It will be interesting to see if the participation numbers rise based on all the inflammation we’ve been subjected to over this Presidency’s term regardless of the outcome.
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Many many elections I did not vote for a D or an R because I am not going to pick the lesser of evils.
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You know, last time I checked we vote for a lot more than who the president is going to be on Election Day. Just because I choose to write in someone for president doesn’t mean I won’t be voting for other offices.
And for the record, I actually would prefer RBGs replacement on the SC to lean right
In any event the dems will get their wish as I know lots of people who either did not vote or voted for trump last time that will vote Biden this time. I can’t say I know of anyone considering the opposite
Maybe Kanye will steal something Biden votes to keep things close
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The left is trying to change the electorial college. They are trying to get rid of the filibuster. They are trying to make Washington DC a state.
They do not care about the Constitution or law or debate or good discourse leading to a good decision. It is 100% about power.
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Four years of Trump have convinced you he is a Constitutional scholar, exemplar of the law, civil in his debate and discourse, has provided leadership to a track record of good decisions, and is not enamored by power?
Wow.
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How on Earth did you make that leap. Completely il logical. Wow is right. The things I listed have nothing to do with trump, and everything to do with the left trying to destroy the republic. Mob rule. A nightmare. I was against the things 30 years ago. I really against them now.
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You stated earlier you were voting for Trump.
You stated above the reasons for not voting for the left.
I am against mob rule on the alt-left, both online and on the streets. The “woke” purity tests are virtue-signaling and condescension writ large. And the physical violence and occupation of property is counter-productive and distracting.
I am also against mob rule on the alt-right, both online and on the streets. The “RINO” purity tests, Q conspiracies, and “fake news” scapegoating of are all efforts by the right to avoid dealing with their own divisive rhetoric and instead stoke fear for their benefit. And it is all to easy to blame the dozens of right-wingers who have run their cars into protest crowds, started fights over masks, and committed hate crimes as individuals, but to me they are clearly manifestations of the same mob mentality.
I spent more words on the alt-right mob above for 3 reasons:
1) I see a lot more outrage and fear peddling around the “woke” mob, which is hilarious because I agree with the observation that they are mostly a bunch of over-privileged millennial that don’t own weapons and wouldn’t know how to operate a gun if given to them.
2) Because the leader of the alt-right is in the WH, and is a stain on the conscience of America.
3) Ultimately, while both extremes are wrong, and I am against mob rule by both the left and right, the two causes are not equal. My faith is convincing and convicting on the fact that people are more valuable than property. One mob rails against property loss and threats to their balance sheets, and one mod rails against the loss of life and marginalization of person-hood.
Slavery has been dead for a long time, but human nature is not, and we must guard ourselves against treating people as things, and valuing things more than people.
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Trump is enamored with Trump, not power. Trump loves fame and he loves himself and wants others to love him. The entire reason why he ran is because of a joke told at his expense by Obama.
If Trump craved power, he would literally be the fascist your small minds believe him to be.
Those who crave power and control over our lives are this new Left, thus Far Left, these extremists and people like AOC and Omar. They want control over how you think, what you believe, what you say… they are all authoritarians.
Trump is a clown. They are dangerous.
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I remember the look on Trump’s face when Obama told that joke and i believe you are right about that.
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I have brought up that moment (Obama mocking him at the WH correspondent’s dinner) in the playpen before. I do think it pushed him over the edge to finally run, and has definitely animated his 3.5+ year effort to dismantle everything that Obama has built. That said, he had been talking about running for years, maybe even decades. But don’t create a false choice between his narcissism and megalomania. He has both.
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You are right that Biden isn’t a scary liberal; historically, he has been the definition of moderate. But, he is a politician, and as years of service as a politician he knows a little bit about how to do it. He knows, for example that lots of people want someone more liberal than him; those people voted for Bernie and Liz Warren, etc. and they want some change. Every politician who gets elected in a two party system has to appeal to more than a single group of people. So, Biden has met with Bernie, probably Liz as well, and agreed to language on some platform points that seeks to gather support from those people who supported Bernie and Liz and others. That’s where the ‘he’s too liberal’ mantra comes from. What do we get in Biden? (The mainstream, that is who I mean by we.) We get not crazy; we get boundaries in terms of conduct and issues. We get a guy who actually has made deals over the course of a lifetime through discussion and compromise. We get a guy who is interested in what is good for the country first and what is good for himself second. We get normal.
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Huzzah! Country first!
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Actually we get someone that doesn’t know what office he is running for. We get someone that used his position to get his worthless POS son millions. We get someone that the left will declare incompetent 6 months into his term so they can replace him with the socialist of their choice.
A vote for Biden is dangerous – possibly more dangerous then a vote for Trump.
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Tee hee
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I see Biden as an old man with Alzheimer’s who has already shown that he won’t stand up to the EXTREME radicalism that is taking over his party. Of course, the MSM is basically state-run DNC TV outside of Fox so they’ll continue to cover for Biden’s weaknesses and continue portraying Trump as the devil himself.
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Trump is not a racist (do your homework). Biden is a segregationist (do your homework). Also, whether you think Biden is a moderate or not doesn’t matter. He’s adopted the green new deal and he now supports defunding police. He cannot say no to the most radical elements of the democrat party.
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I disagree…they are Socialist with a clear Marxist leaning.
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Regarding Biden’s position on defunding the police, Fox News says you’re wrong.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-pounding-at-defund-the-police-but-biden-is-an-elusive-target
That article goes on to state that Biden is in favor of conditioning police funding on certain measures like banning chokeholds, but that’s the same thing that Republican Senator Tim Scott’s reform bill aimed to do.
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And the democrats refused to vote on. Yeah we will be in good hands if the left wins the WH and keeps the house.
Trump didn’t get things accomplished because the democrats couldn’t allow him to be successful so they spent almost 4 years yelling RUSSIA RUSSIA when they knew damn well there was no Russian collusion. Anything to make Trump look bad and the complicit media carried the liberal mantra even if it divided and ultimately destroyed the country.
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It may seem like a small thing, especially to people who thought for years the word “liberal” was bad, but these people are not liberals. There is nothing liberal about Pelosi and Schumar and especially AOC, Harris, Schiff, and Omar. These are not liberal people. Nothing they say or believe in is liberal. They’re Far Left extremists. Call them neo progressives or Leftists or authoritarians or whatever, but they’re not liberal.
Those of us who are actually liberal need to take this word back, because people on the Right keep besmirching us by tying us to these insane Far Leftists.
I know it may seem like a small thing, but all my life being a liberal meant standing for what was right, and now, when I see what the Left in this country has become, I’m aghast at how far the Overton Window has shifted to the insane wing.
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Both parties have become well-versed in obstructionist politics. The Democrats won’t vote on the Senate’s police reform bill, and the Republican’s won’t vote on the House’s bill either. So it’s the American people who get screwed.
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When teachers are buying their own supplies and asking kids to bring in toilet paper and paper towels and police departments have riot gear and something close to a tank in their garage, hell yeah, it’s time to de-fund the police and re-think how policing is done in this country.
And a Green New Deal? Heaven forbid we re-think our way of living in a world we need to pass on to later generations. If a green new deal gets me a high speed rail between here and Atlanta, and I can read a book on that three hour bullet train ride instead of driving up 65 and 85, you damn well better believe I’m gonna vote for that instead.
You see, I thought the GOP was the party of new ideas and innovation for both business and consumers, but what I see now is a bunch of people scared of changing something for the better because they’re afraid they’re going to lose what made them comfortable.
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“Defund the police” is a terrible slogan and it’s being (predictably) misused by people who characterize it as a desire to abolish the police. While there may be some who want to go to that extreme, I believe the majority of people in the “defund” camp feel as you do. I think this comic captures the meaning behind the slogan pretty well.
I’d just add that both the education system and law enforcement need to be properly funded, but then everyone gets into a debate about what “proper” funding is, and we go down that rabbit hole…
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This x 1000000000000!
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So. Much. This.
Sure the GND would mean massive death in this country by shutting down the means of transportation for luxuries like food and medicine. But you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few million eggs, amirite?
And should proles pay more for their energy? Of course! How else are we elites going to read on our daily commute? Extort that money to make our lives slightly more comfortable? Why should I have to pay for an Audible subscription?!? Hit up those taxpayers for the $93 trillion.
But you live a three hour train ride outside Atlanta? Points off for being an obvious white supremacist.
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And which party refuses to allow school choice to protect the unions and their block of votes. As to the “tanks” they were not bought – they were military surplus given to cites that needed something to counter the lawless approach of the left.
If you think the “Green New Deal” is a great idea then you likely ride a unicorn to work.
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“If a green new deal gets me a high speed rail between here and Atlanta, and I can read a book on that three hour bullet train ride instead of driving up 65 and 85, you damn well better believe I’m gonna vote for that instead”
Oh… That explains it. You just aren’t very bright. Maybe this will change your mind, then. If you vote for Trump he will not only end climate change, but he will force auto manufacturers to build zero emissions flying cars and we will all have free food and healthcare, no borders, and no violence forever. If your vote can be bought with fantasies, we just need to do a better job of lying. You think democrats can bring you a utopia, but their type brings nothing but Venesuelas and Soviet Unions.
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Trump / Banana Republicans “need to do a better job of lying”. That was a classic. Thx. Tee hee Chortle Spit
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I have heard the name Clay Travis, but have never read his stuff and have no idea what his positions are. Having said that , I think “obvious grifter ” would apply to most “journalists” nowadays. There’re all just hustling for clicks. The obvious exception is GTP, which is why it is the only source I bother to read.
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Same here. The only time i’ve heard that name is here.
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Likewise for me. Never read or listened to him and would not know he exists if he weren’t mentioned on this blog.
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Travis has been around in the SEC for a while. If you haven’t heard of him, that’s fine, but if you’re on Twitter or if you’ve read material from across the SEC over the past couple of decades, you’ll know who he is (as the Senator has also linked to a number of his past escapades). His current schtick with Outkick the Coverage is to basically try to create Barstool for Boomers and to go on obnoxious Twitter rants about how COVID isn’t bad, everyone but him is living in fear and being sheep, and as always painting himself as the smartest guy in the room.
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Yes, he is one of the few smart people I have met who somehow think that they are the only smart person. Dumb people who think they are smart often think this way but he is objectively smart and objectively a grifter or something similar.
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“But if you’re on twitter”
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He has been around the SEC long before Twitter. He had a blog (Losers With Socks, I think?) and wrote a book or two before moving on to Fox.
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People can hate Trump and want college football. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Clay’s stock in trade (and everyone else who makes $$$ generating hot air) is to pretend everything comes down to mutually exclusive binaries. A or B. Not A, C and F. They make life seem so simple.
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That’s me. I can disapprove of the president and think returning to stadiums in the current environment is dangerous. And still want to watch football. ASAP. Because I love it.
My position is just very expensive to me.
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Along those same lines, I can (and do) dislike Trump, but I can still want schools to be reopened in the fall for in-person learning. I believe it was discussed in the last Playpen, but the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) released a statement recently stating that all schools should have the goal of resuming in-person classes for a variety of reasons. They also outline a number of safety recommendations and call on the government to provide the resources to implement those safety precautions. I don’t dislike Trump for his stance on this issue. I dislike him because I think his stance is based on self-interest rather than the best interests of the public.
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What? Trump has a “self-interest” in schools re-opening? How’s that? Every pediatrician in America with a brain says kids need to be back in school. How is this “self-interest”?
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If they can safely be there and not come home and kill their parents and grandparents, everyone is for schools being open.
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I honestly can’t tell if this is trolling or not, so I’ll offer a sincere response: I believe Trump wants schools to re-open because it helps his chances for re-election in November, not because it’s in the best interests of the students.
Contrast that with those pediatricians you referenced, and several other organization who joined with them, to recommend the safe reopening of schools for the following reasons:
“Educators and pediatricians share the goal of children returning safely to school this fall. Our organizations are committed to doing everything we can so that all students have the opportunity to safely resume in-person learning.
“We recognize that children learn best when physically present in the classroom. But children get much more than academics at school. They also learn social and emotional skills at school, get healthy meals and exercise, mental health support and other services that cannot be easily replicated online. Schools also play a critical role in addressing racial and social inequity. Our nation’s response to COVID-19 has laid bare inequities and consequences for children that must be addressed. This pandemic is especially hard on families who rely on school lunches, have children with disabilities, or lack access to Internet or health care.
For those people, I’d be willing to believe they’re actually advocating for what they believe is in the best interests of the children (insert “doing it for the kids” joke here). For Trump, it’s only about what’s best for him. To put it another way, he may be on the right side of the argument, but he’s on it for the wrong reasons.
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This is contrarian. I mean 1st of all you’re saying politicians do things for political reasons. But its trump only Then you’re saying it’s the right thing to do. Ok, good then! I can tell you here after losing 2 school years in a row we absolutely want schools open. Don’t care who the president is. And I’m not really sure how a political stance on opening schools gets him more votes. I don’t think it moves the needle a bit. If trump said he wanted the schools to stay closed I’d really like to see the response from the left. Because that seems a lot more reasonable, Whatever trump says do the opposit
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Speaking only for myself, it’s not a matter of “whatever Trump says do the opposite”. I’ve actually agreed with his stance on sanctuary cities for example. I didn’t have a problem with him restricting travel from China earlier this year as a result of the pandemic.
I think that any return to normalcy before the election works in his favor, whether it’s schools or the economy or whatever. Parents who are stressing now about home schooling or aren’t able to work because of child care issues would see those stresses relieved if schools reopened, and they might look more favorably on Trump as a result.
And I’m sure there are politicians who are taking the opposite stance from Trump just because they believe it will score them political points, and I would decry them just as much.
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Very fair.
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I’ve heard Clay Travis’ name before, but I can’t say that I’ve read anything of his that immediately comes to mind. There are a lot of media personalities out there that say outlandish things, and I would love to know how many of them actually believe what they’re saying. I’d wager that a large number of them are simply maintaining a carefully crafted public persona to generate ratings and revenue. And we (the viewing public) are to blame for their success to some degree because we love those personas or love to hate them, so we keep clicking, listening, and watching.
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About 8 years ago I made the decision to make The Dan Patrick Show the only national sports voice I listen to/read. A GREAT DECISION. Not only is he wise and entertaining (and the greatest sports figure interviewer alive), but he also interviews other talking heads who actually make some sense and are just in the biz to have a “hot take” every two seconds.
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are NOT just in the biz
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Where can Dan be found? I always liked his stuff.
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His 3-hour daily show is broadcast (for free) on YouTube. I highly recommend it.
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I should have included links:
website: http://www.danpatrick.com
youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/TheDanPatrickShow
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Back in the day, I was really sad when Dan got scooped up into national syndication. Used to hear him on the radio (96Rock) when I was in high school.
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You can listen/watch his 3-hour daily show on YouTube (for free). I highly recommend it.
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Its been a long time since I have read anything from him. He was very quick to adapt to click bait for the win. This blog is about the only college football site that is not click bait anymore. This is always my first stop for all things regarding Georgia football. It is increasingly my only stop for football.
i`ll bite on the politics today as far as our choices for president. Never would I have believed earlier in life our only real choices could both be so terrible.
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Scuba, you don’t think our choices were just as terrible last time around?
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They were terrible to be sure. I held my nose and voted. I
m more afraid of the way things are trending to the extreme in politics on both sides. im a middle of the road guy who believes open debate is healthy. We are now at the point where opposition to either side must be crushed and made personal.LikeLike
You are, unfortunately, correct. I’m out there in the middle with you. I think there are far more of us than even we realize. I wonder when we will take back the political agenda?
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The problem is the media. The media was almost always left-leaning, but now they have gone on all on Far Leftist extremism to the point that they lie to protect domestic terrorists.
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Absolutely correct.
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It’s such a viscous circle too. Congress and Senate dont even talk anymore. They all yell at each other as if it was talk radio and the host just blasts everyone that calls in.
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Who?
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Glad to see I am not the only one here who has no idea who he is
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Agree…
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Grifter is right. I have strict unfollow policy on twitter for anyone that retweets his dumbassery.
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I occasionally listen to him for entertainment only, as his schtick is obvious to me. He does make some good points and clearly is very intelligent, hence his continued growth in popularity. In the end, Clay has tapped into a certain market and has captured their attention, and has played his cards well.
By the way, and FWIW based on this being discussed last week: I just put down a deposit for a ’21 Ford Bronco. My wife thinks I’m nuts as I typically drive luxury euro SUVs, but given our outdoor lifestyle combined with looking at a motorhome purchase (in which we would tow the bronco behind), I think (or hope) it’s a good move for us.
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I seriously doubt that Travis, Cowherd et.al. truly believe half of what they say. Their goal seems to be to trigger a reaction, and we know that common sense statements don’t draw an emotional response. So, they say outrageous things, or post them on social media, in hopes of getting both the angry and the strongly supportive responses. With that being my belief, I go out of my way to not see or hear them. I have better things to think about than the opinion of someone who doesn’t really believe what they say.
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I love how Clay Travis is an “obvious” grifter, but all the Leftist (not left-leaning, but straight up Leftists) in sports media aren’t.
Jemelle Hill? Nah. Peter King? Nah. Stew Mandel? Nah. Mike Silver? Nah. Pat Forde, Dan Wolken, or Dennis Dodd? Naaaah.
What makes this particularly ridiculous take by you funny Senator is Clay’s never voted Republican and best as I can see is he’s a liberal who’s been left by the Left, which has happened to a great many of us who aren’t deluded. This is a guy who voted for Obama twice. But sure. HE is the grifter.
I do happen to think he’s right about one thing: Most in the media, including college sports media, hate Donald Trump so much that they’re willing to do anything to make sure he’s not elected. The economic devastation that will come to college towns for not having a CFB season should just about wrap up the election for Biden. I think Clay is 100% wrong that they’ll all lose their jobs. I expect they’ll be carried and furloughed, and if it means getting rid of Trump, I’m sure they’re fine with that.
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Most people around here (and elsewhere) think Dan Wolken is a bit of a grifter, looking for controversy where it doesn’t exist (he sometimes is right, but if you give a guy a hammer he will eventually find some nails to hit).
Clay Travis is a special kind of troll but I do agree with your point that people are more reluctant to call out pundits on the other end of the political spectrum for producing click-bait. Maybe it’s because Donald Trump is just plain indefensible at this point. Maybe it’s because the virtues of the left are more in-step with our cultural climate, and the risk of calling those people out for being ridiculous far outweighs the reward. It could also just be that many people have seen Trumpism as the greater of two evils in the present moment.
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Trump will come and go. Authoritarian Leftism, the “woke” neo progressives who believe in their ideology with the fervor and anger of a religion with identity politics and intersectionalism as their dogma, are a far bigger problem in this country. That the media continues to straight up lie about Antifa for example is not an accident; it’s by design.
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Not the stormtroopers, right? No threat there.
https://apple.news/AQQ3hD_-ERUGEGVWXojycDg
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Right, Derek. Stormtroopers. Not Federal agents sent to protect federal property in a city and state in which the mayor and governor have FORBIDDEN their police to actually do their jobs and arrest Antifa rioters.
These are federal LEOs, you moron. And they are properly badged and identified. FFS, do you only believe what the media feeds you?
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Basically none of what you just said is true.
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Local control is for losers!
Arresting, detaining and releasing people without charges is so constitutional!
Imagine an America where we “dominate” coronavirus.
Thats an America where I’m watching college football live and in person.
Instead we save those “dominating” efforts for trying to stir conflict and division.
Nixon won after Kent State. Trump is agitating for the same.
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Charges have been brought against these people in federal court already. Again, do you only believe with CNN feeds you? You seem to.
There is no local control. The mayor has allowed this to go on for two months. He ordered the police not to arrest any rioter no matter how violent. It is within the rights of the federal government to protect federal property.
What’s hilarious to me Derek is your attitude would complete change if instead of the communist overthrow of the government as their ultimate goal, if these people rioting and damaging property and attacking people were carrying rebel flags and wearing white hoods, your attitude would be 100% different.
That’s what makes you wrong.
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I’m pretty sure none of what you just said is verifiable, but you go ahead with the OAN talking points.
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What makes you wrong is that you don’t see the difference between promoting white supremacy and a frustrated mob appealing to their government for a change that is for everyone’s benefit and in everyone’s interest.
In short, I don’t think there is a “we shall overcome” limit to a response to extrajudicial executions. Reactions to such things get the attention of those in power who can make the needed changes. A meek populace would simply give space for more George Floyds wouldn’t it?
Isn’t this the lesson the NRA wants us to embrace? Make sure the government fears the people or they will act as if they don’t?
I don’t think “jews will not replace us” is of similar public value nor does it have the same unifying intent.
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Exactly this. Constitutional rights only apply to people we agree with. Why is that so hard to understand? Just get on our side and you’ll be safe. Stop thinking for yourself!
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He is exactly what he claims to hate.
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I think folks are way out of line referring to American citizens employed and deputized as U.S. Federal law enforcement agents as storm troopers (I’m well aware the speaker of the house did the same…given her status and platform her statement was far more egregious than anyone else.) In my opinion, it is disgusting to compare these good men and women to Nazi thugs…there is no comparison…full stop…these law enforcement professionals, just like the state and local law enforcement professionals (like the Chicago pd, like the NYC pd, like the St. Louis pd, etc) have been assaulted, shot at, run over, beaten, hit with bricks and bats in the head, unfortunately one has been paralyzed from the neck down from a gunshot, and even more unfortunate, a couple of these law enforcement HEROS have been murdered by gunfire (David Dorn (retired in St. Louis) and Patrick Underwood (fed agent shot in Oakland, CA) both black)…just for doing their jobs…the federal agents along side the local law enforcement professionals (police) are our friends, neighbors, some are family…they are us. Just like when our vets came back from Vietnam in the 60’s and 70’s…and some heartless people called them “baby killers”…those people were wrong then for attacking our servicemen and people who denigrate law enforcement today are wrong…and before you lite me up about the 4 police officers that killed and stood bye and watched the death of George Floyd in MN…those 4 were wrong, they were swiftly arrested, and hopefully justice will be brought for Mr. Floyd and his family. IMHO, they do not represent the thousands of hardworking dedicated law enforcement professionals that have been and are being maligned at every turn for the last several months.
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I wish I could like this INFINITY!
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I agree – right-wing white nationalists are a far bigger threat than Antifa, and I’m really tired of the media trying to push this “Antifa is dangerous” narrative.
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How many white nationalists do you believe are currently in this country? And I mean actual white nationalists. Not Jemelle Hill’s definition.
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I could look up some statistics, but you wouldn’t believe them. I’m not your Google. Why don’t you go look up some facts and bring them to the conversation instead of ranting about “the media” and “leftists” and whatever else fragile conservatives are peeing down their leg about.
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Less than 10K. That’s the statistics from the FBI that you’re so sure “I wouldn’t believe.” That comes out to 0.003% of our population.
Now, let’s see if YOU believe that. Here’s guessing you won’t, because you believe everything the media tells you.
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Yet they’re as dangerous as ISIS according to the same FBI.
Why are you so scared of a few dozen weak liberal college students cos-playing as the great “ANTIFA”?https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-neo-nazi-isis-us-terror-threat-level-trump-a9323786.html
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Did you even read that, or did you get no further than the headline? I’m guessing you got no further than the headline.
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Keep it up with the ad hominem attacks, it’s always a winning position.
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Do you know what an ad hominem attack is? I’m gonna guess no. It requires an actual attack on your person or character. I have done none of that. I have asked questions. You didn’t reply to them, as is your right, but instead deflected, which is again, is your right.
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Depends on where you live. In my area I would say the majority of whites would consider themselves white nationalists. Based on personal experience.
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Also Russian agents.
#They’reEverywhere
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If you live in Idaho, sure, every fourth person is a white nationalist. The others are Mormons. If you live in Atlanta? No so much.
The thing is, the media wants us to believe white nationalists are a clear and present danger to the country, when they’re not, mainly because the media has spent 50 years denouncing them, as they should. They are rightfully marginalized and they are in decline and have been for decades. There’s not enough white nationalists left in this country to do much of anything.
Where is that same treatment for Antifa who actually are a clear and present danger? They’ve literally caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damage to our cities as Democrat-elected officials let them do what they want and prevent local law enforcement from arresting them, and Democrat prosecutors refuse to prosecute the ones that are arrested, and Democrat appointed judges refuse to sentence the ones that are prosecuted.
It’s amazing that Antifa only protests and destroys cities that have been under Democrat control for decades, if not more than a century, right? Weird coincidence. Berkley, Seattle, Minneapolis, Portland. It’s because they know what would happen if they try their organized, terroristic paramilitary tactics elsewhere. They’re given free rein to burn and assault and cause chaos, and the media do nothing but provide them cover and aid and comfort with their lies.
While they claim to be “anti-fascist” they use all the tactics of actual fascists, including lying about their intent. They’re communist anarchists, but authoritarians all play from the same playbook. They’re not good people. The majority of them are unhinged people with mental issues, and the rest of them are spoiled middle class and upper middle class spoiled brat white douchebags whose parents pampered and over-praised and didn’t spank them like they should’ve. They are the culmination of the ridiculous Leftist idea that started in academia that “Words are violence.” If words are violence, that gives them the moral authority in their eyes to literally assault, maim, and kill those who disagree with them, and that is what they do.
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Congrats on writing the dumbest opinion piece on the internet today. You make dickshit envious I’m sure. Someone will have to send you a gold star sticker.
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Congrats on the ad hominem attack because you know you can’t refute anything I said. You get more than a Gold Star, you get to live the rest of your life as a mindless amoeba. Good for you!
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Why would I attempt to refute any of your outlandish statements, none of which can be backed up by fact? You might as well have said that you worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I would have then called you stupid, and you would say “well you cant refute it!” It’s the same argument, so why would I spend time delivering facts to you, knowing you don’t care about facts. I just rather call your opinions stupid.
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Hat Tip for Flying Spaghetti Monster…
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#LiterallyShaking
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Damn. I may steal this one.
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“You don’t have to be beautiful to turn me o-on…. I been drinkin’ and I’m takin your big ass home…”
Thanks, Rotney.
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Is that the Lone Stranger?
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Startling wit from someone who either just fetishizes cigars or has appropriated an ethnic group for personal shortcomings.
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Did you go door by door and take a poll? Where exactly do you get this info? I’ve lived in most of the South which is where all the racists are and I’ve never once thought that. bet you consider anyone that disagrees with you to be a white nationalist. If they have a trump poster in their yard white nationalist. If they have an American Flag in their yard white nationalist. If they believe in going to church white nationalist.
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I live in the deep south and work a profession that puts me in front thousands of people a year of all walks of life. Because of what I do and who I work for, most of these people have no qualms about telling me about how they view life and society as a whole. That’s how I come to my conclusions and why I didn’t offer percentages.
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“We need to challenge the lazy assumption that people aren’t racist just because they never say or do racist things.” – Titania McGrath
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It’s true that antifa is overlooked by mainstream media (and sometimes receives preferential treatment despite bad practices), but its size and scope (and level of organization) seems widely exaggerated by Fox and OAN. I know that’s a milquetoast opinion, but as the head dawg has famously said before, what you see on the field isn’t always as bad or even as good as it might seem to the casual viewer.
As far as the intersectional/cultural Marxist ideology you mention, there are liberals who are just as wary of how those ideas are affecting our society, those just aren’t the loudest voices in the room right now. Talking about how expanded public services and justice system reforms would improve the lives of black citizens just isn’t as sexy as the rabble over monuments and sports team mascots. I suspect the reason these more traditional liberals are reluctant to criticize these ideologies (and how they actually serve as a red herring to the policies they should be pursuing) is very similar to why Evangelical Christians changed their tune on Donald Trump in the 2016 election; it seems to be working, so why pump the brakes?
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The Senator’s take is that Clay is a grifter. And not to be taken seriously. Nothing you’ve rambled on about disproves these “takes”.
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I take Clay with a grain of salt, but I also take him at his word. This idea that he’s a grifter is ridiculous. He believes what he says.
I love how the only “grifters“ out there right now are those who don’t fall in line with the Leftist message; with the “woke” message.
Funny how that works.
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What on earth are you talking about? You’re attacking ghosts. Don’t talk about “all those people out there saying leftists are grifters” — talk to ME. You’re replying to ME.
FYI, I think “grifter” would accurately describe a whole host of people Right and Left, including:
Ted Cruz
Al Sharpton
Colin Cowherd
Jim Rome
Brian Kilmeade
Tommy Tuberville
Maxine Waters
Gerald Nadler
heck, most members of Congress regardless of political affiliation.
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Lost me at ted Cruz.
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Why. Because he’s a positive, intellectually honest, straight-shooting, man guided by principles and focused on accomplishing workable long-term solutions to our nation’s greatest problems? And not simply a man obsessed with advancing his own name and influence by capitalizing on hot-button issues du jour? Regardless if this actually means limiting the actual appeal and adoption of the Conservative issues he pretends to care so deeply about?
My apologies. I must have confused him for someone else.
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Lol. Every time I like you, you jump into MSNBC. If that’s what you think about Ted Cruz…. will you please tell me about Pelosi schumer AOC Biden Warren Clinton Obama Cuomo deblosio…
Because I am not a crazy left nut, i can live with you about Cruz, even if I disagree. Just wanna see if you’re intellectually honest about those other nuts
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It’s nice to know we’re all here to audtion for your affections…
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You’re getting your pronouns wrong comrade.
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Yes, agree about all those you listed.
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So when Bari Weiss, Andrew Sullivan, and whatever other gaggle of jackasses that think cancel culture is the real problem facing the world right now open their version of the Athletic, you’ll sign up, right?
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That you think Bari Weiss and Andrew Sullivan are jackasses tell me all I need to know about you.
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The fact that you don’t tells me your intellectual credibility is about as valuable as Charles Murray, which is to say nonexistent, but a whole lotta Dunning-Kruger folks will fall for the occasional polysyllable or Latin phrase, But sure, people who already make a lot of money spewing the same 3-5 asinine takes quitting their jobs to go get paid more elsewhere proves cancel culture is real and the left are the real fascists. .
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The the thing about Far Leftists. Their complete lack of empathy for anyone who does not believe as they believe, and their complete rejection of any logic or reality that doesn’t align with their world view.
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Who said anything about his political leanings? FWIW, I don’t think he has any. He’s just willing to troll folks who do have certain political leanings for financial reasons. That, by my book, is grifting.
Also, the idea that media folks are being carried and furloughed defies reality. How have you not noticed the number of journalism jobs that have been wiped out this year?
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Matt Luke is getting his ass kicked (by Bama) on the recruiting trail.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed. That is… not great.
Then again, we’re lagging a bit in recruiting as it is. I wonder if it has something to do with the secondary violations?
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I think a lot of that is driven by our young depth at OL. We’ll get Sims, I think.
To me this sucks more: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29513247/james-williams-no-33-prospect-espn-300-picks-miami-georgia
Hopefully, we’ll get a flip here.
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Yeah, this one is a bit more worrying. Williams had been almost a UGA lock on 247 and now committed to a very mediocre Miami? Not great. Especially with a severe limit in official on-site visits this cycle.
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Because they got Ferguson? Who wants to play Tackle in college and we prefer at Guard (for obvious reasons, given our OT haul last year and the hopeful addition of Mims this year)?
The recruiting panic I’m seeing today is funny.
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Yikes.
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The effort to shift the blame for the residual problems associated with the incompetent response to the pandemic is both predictable and pathetic.
Guys like travis elected a guy who couldn’t make money in the casino business. That’s the functional equivalent of failing to get laid in a Tijuana brothel.
We now face consequences for that poor choice and rather than accept responsibility for them they argue that everything is fine, its just that the hippie liberals like Athletic Directors, sports team owners, conference commissioners and coaches are just pretending its a serious problem in order to victimize Il Douche and hurt his political ambitions.
When you’re a winger and your new bogeymen are a bunch of rich white guys, I think you’re in trouble.
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Travis didn’t vote for Trump, dummy.
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“Guys like travis.”
Put another way, people who are sympathetic to the message he is putting out that the host brought our attention to this morning are “Guys like travis.”
They, by and large, voted for trump.
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There’s only one Dummy cuirrently on this thread, dummy.
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Oh look, I almost didn’t recognize you, Stranger. You’re actually posting the same day a post comes out AND posting your nonsense in the correct arena as opposed to skirting the rules by posting it days late on non playpen posts.
How ya doin!?
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A pleasure to sound off. Now, Good Day…
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In one of the linked articles, Clay Travis says he believes in boobs. They believe in him, too.
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I LOVED his first book Dixieland Delight. Really liked him a lot initially. But he realized that he could take what PAAAAWL was doing and monetize it to and even greater extent by leaving sports behind. I don’t think he actually believes half the shit that comes out of his mouth, but his fan base does and he became the southern version of Barstool Sports (without the offsetting awesomeness of the PMT crew).
He knows being a troll is valuable. It’s really sad actually, but he’s nothing more than a product of his surroundings. Hopefully he’ll fade away over time like the people who follow him.
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I know nothing about this guy, but if you don’t think the media is largely liberal, you are fooling yourself. If you also don’t think COVID has been politicized, ask yourself why the story now is all about “new cases” and not deaths..one is rising, the other is falling. Which one fits the narrative better?
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But deaths are NOT falling. We had over 1,000 yesterday for the first time since June 2.
Texas and florida set and broke their daily death records in July.
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Certain people have been stating “deaths are falling” for three weeks, or so, even as the 7-day average has been steadily climbing back up nationally. All over the internet — even people I know personally.
And when you point it out to them they claim that everyone’s lying about (over-stating) the death statistics anyway so they don’t matter.
Ha.
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June 2nd, 1039 US deaths…July 21st. 1039 deaths…it has been up and down since then with those being the HIGH’s…the low during that time appears to be 212…all over the place, but certainly not spiking at this point. I hope it stays that way or gets better.
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=covid+us+death+chart&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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So if its the same as 6 weeks ago its not going down right?
The trend line is up, but not spiking.
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Day to day numbers will inevitably spike. Look at a 7- or 14-day average and let me know what you think then.
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Been about the same the last 6 weeks…the goal wasn’t to eradicate Covid, it was to slow the spike that did happen in March…it seems we have done that. You may interpret the data differently.
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That was then. This is now. We’ve moved the goalposts.
A Democrat in the White House would have actually brought Covid patients back to life.
#EradicateTheCurve
#Leadership
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I never said the advance wasn’t slowed. I said the 7-day average is rising over the last several weeks. And it is.
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I am not sure where you get your stats but they disagree with the CDC report. As of 7/4/2020 we were approaching 130k deaths nationally, and as of yesterday the CDC reports 140K deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
Other reports say as of today it is 145,000 deaths. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=CSauthorbio?
There is some difference in methodology between the two, but either way that is a spike of 10k deaths in a little over two weeks. You’re dreaming.
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Sure, you can find isolated states where there are more deaths, but the fact is that Nationally deaths have gone way down since the peak. More snowbirds in Florida at this time of year isn’t helping anything. That is a huge issue..
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But they are trending back UP. They should be trending down.
Better than April doesn’t mean shit.
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See the link above….not a huge spike in the last 6 weeks…
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And I agree, Florida is a hot spot. Lots of Sr’s
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I do not think snowbirding means what you think it means.
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Lmao!!!
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Yeah all those Canucks should be back home now. Usually the mass exodus is around Easter.
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Florida winter is in full effect. I hate it. Lol.
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Someone on this site posted a link to a webpage with COVID statistics that seemed very well done and certainly more organized and logical. To me at least. I didn’t bookmark it. Anybody else get it? Can you please repost? Thanks in advance.
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I have this, but it seems to default to July 15, possibly the day I bookmarked it.
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https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku
Forgot the link
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Also this link…
https://covidtracking.com/data
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If you’re in Georgia, https://www.covid-georgia.com/ does a good job posting daily data with context. Deaths in Georgia peaked in mid-April and have declined since. Small uptick in early July, but we’re a long way from the peak.
https://twitter.com/gummibear737 is also a good guy for analyzing data without subscribing to any particular agenda.
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Well, South Korea got hit about the same time we did, has metro areas with even greater population density, and from March to now their TOTAL CASES is less than FL alone has had in a single day. So political or not, our response clearly could’ve been better.
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Comparing SK to the US doesn’t work for basically every reason possible.
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Mainly inconvenience.
Also don’t compare USA with any European country. Or New Zealand.
Brazil and the third world as acceptable bench marks.
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That’s how the Banana Republicans handle it…
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The U.S. is rapidly becoming a banana republic with aspirations of being some mutant second world country with a Sino flavor. Large sections of urban America have been more third world than some of the actual third world shitholes I frequent. The major difference is here I don’t carry an automatic weapon. Which is fine as I don’t do suppressive fire anyhow.
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Urban blight:
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Small problems are large problems. Large problems don’t exist.
#MiddleSchoolPolySci
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Alriiiiiiiight. Finally you put a face to your name. Derek Whitaker. Remember man, never be ashamed of who you are. You can pick your nose and teeth, um tooth; but, you can’t pick your family.
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r is I, RangerRuss. That’s the second time that’s happened as I got in a hurry.
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That’s ok Ranger. Slow your breathing, remember your training.
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Cringe
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Great points.
Except for Belgium, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden, and France, the US has a higher death rate than ANY European country. If we had the leadership of those countries, we could probably have been even FARTHER BELOW their death rates.
#ShakingEvenHarder
#BloodOnOrangeMan’sHands
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I am not sure what Travis is saying as I can’t get the vid to load. That said…I do support his right to have an opinion. I don’t support anyone who believes he should be shut up or down, if you don’t like him…don’t listen.
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…or listen and tell him he’s stupid.
As a free speech near absolutist I agree.
The great thing about the market of ideas is that the bad ones, over time, lose.
Banning or barring speech just allows people to whine about being victims.
That said, if David Duke gave a speech sponsored by Coke, I wouldn’t drink coke. (Except at tailgates with my Jack b/c what choice would I have?)
Its the intersection between commerce and speech where things get sticky.
As far as I know there is a public space in nearly every town in america, as well as on the internet, to say just about any damn thing you want.
In light of that I have a hard time with all the grumbling about restrictions. It seems to me that people don’t want consequences. I say “too bad, grow up.”
You can cater to an audience or piss them off. Its always been up to the speaker to decide that.
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Okay, now for something to really make some of y’all nuts:
After an exhaustive listening through my ever growing classic vinyl collection, I have come up with the definitive list of Top-5 rock bands of all time.
Please, feel free to disagree and provide your own rebuttles!
Top-5 Rock Bands of All Time
1) The Beatles – everything that came after was because of The Beatles; a reaction to what they did.
2) Led Zeppelin – inventing hard rock wasn’t enough; they had to go and create these wonderfully weird songs that could last 20 minutes or more in concert
3) R.E.M. – the greatest American rock band, they invented alt-rock and inspired all the great bands of the late 80’s and 90’s
4) The Rolling Stones – 3 and 4 was the hardest decision I had to make, because the Stones are great… the problem is they‘ve stuck around too long making some frankly bad albums… R.E.M. went out on a high note
5) Nirvana – they weren’t the first grunge band, they were simply the best
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For #3, Husker Du formed earlier (and technically, it was all heavily influenced by Patti Smith, Velvet Underground, and Lou Reed.)
For #5 — only if this is an alternate universe where Soundgarden doesn’t exist.
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Yeah, not so much ever with Husker Du.
I actually went back and forth with Soundgarden, because unlike others I do believe they’re better than Pearl Jam and even Alice In Chains because Chris Cornell is a transcendent front man.
But Chris Cornell, as great as he was (God, I hate writing was… I first wrote “is”), could never write as good as Kurt Cobain.
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No argument from me.
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I would argue that Radiohead should be in there somewhere. Sustained success over more than 3 decades, 3 Grammy awards for Best Alternative Music Album including one of the most influential rock albums of all time (OK Computer), Rock and Roll HOFers, and all but one (8 of 9) album certified Gold or better in the US. No two albums sound the same, and maintaining their level of success while consistently reinventing themselves is a remarkable feat. They may not be to everyone’s taste, but they have earned a place in the pantheon.
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Radiohead is great, but in Thom Yorke’s own words, R.E.M. was one of the biggest inspirations, which is why they’re not in my Top-5. Top-10? Without a doubt!
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The Beatles are the most over-rated thing in the universe. Ever. (IMO)
I can’t stand their music.
Now, Led Zeppelin and The Stones…. no argument from me there.
I’ve never listened (willingly) to more than a few minutes of either REM or Nirvana. I always thought they sounded like my teenage neighbors trying to (poorly) jam in their garage.
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It’s okay to have a wrong opinion. Most of us here do pretty much about everything. I say that in knowing it’s all subjective.
The one thing I’ll say about The Beatles that isn’t subjective is I wasn’t kidding when I said everyone else after them was a reaction to them. Brian Wilson wrote and recorded Pet Sounds BECAUSE The Beatles wrote and recorded Rubber Soul. Led Zeppelin, The Who, and The Rolling Stones did what they did because of The Beatles. All those harmonies in rock music in the late 60’s and 70’s? Inspired by The Beatles. All of Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd’s esoteric, amazing, “nonsense” songs? Beatles. Changes in how recording was done? Beatles. Studio perfectionism? Beatles. The concept album? Beatles. The Wall of Sound and Musique Concrète? Beatles.
You may think they’re overrated, but literally everything that came during and after them wouldn’t have happened in the same way had there not been The Beatles. The changed the face, sound, and business of music forever. No band in the history of music has that kind of reach and effect.
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Dennis Miller did a bit on SNL Weekend Update about a thawed caveman placed in a room with every type of music ever recorded for a year. Afterward during his interview all the caveman said was,”Wow man, The Floyd.”
Along with the Beatles, Stones, The Who and Tom Petty that’s the soundtrack to my life.
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Love Pink Floyd.
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I won’t argue their music wasn’t influential and probably impacted what came after (in rock) more than anything that came before. That’s probably undeniable. I just don’t like what they did.
No accounting for taste, as they say. For me the true measure of art has been whether I enjoy it more and feel like it’s continually “new” to me the more I experience it. With the Beatles I found them intriguing and cool when I was in my mid-teens. Ever since that time the fascination has decreased, until the point where now (at age 37) I can’t stand any of it. Even the stuff I assumed I would love for every like Hey Jude and Let it Be, etc, etc.
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Or to put my opinion another way:
Beatles is kitsch.
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Yikes.
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With you on all points here Jared. Except I did give REM and Nirvana a chance. Blech.
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Corch, I disagree with you about politics but what I will say next may bring a lot of scorn on me from this board in regards to your above list but I feel that as a 42-year-old who has always been really into music and a native Athenian I have to get it off my chest: Is R.E.M. really any good and if they are, are they actually a rock n roll band? While I appreciate that they come from Athens and have at least 5-10 good pop songs they are after all these years a group that I could never get into no matter how much “Spin,” “The Rolling Stone” or “NME” spoke well of them. I was able to get into “The Smiths” and some other similar musicians because of rock criticism but my copy of “Murmur” goes unplayed.
My top 5
1) Stones- they have made bad albums but they also made “Let it Bleed,” “Exile..” and “Some Girls.”
2) Allman Brothers- The only jam band worth listening to.
3) GNR- A short run but their 3 albums and 1 EP are tremendous.
4)Led Zeppelin- I like all their albums even when I am not stoned and after trying to read Tolkein.
5)DBT- I admit that they were a lot better when Isbell was in the band but the run from “Ganstabilly/ Pizzadeliverance” through to when he left is a really good run especially given that it was done in a post-rock n roll era.
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Coming in HOT!
R.E.M. is that good; the greatest American rock band. Period. Their run of excellence from Chronic Town through New Adventures in Hi-Fi (their last studio album with Bill Berry), a run of 11 studio albums (1 EP and 10 LPs) not to mention the live albums, is simply unheard of in rock music.
The Rolling Stones among the British bands put together four amazing albums (Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed (arguably the best rock album ever), Sticky Fingers, and Exile…) but eleven? In a row?
R.E.M. is amazing because their albums almost always must be taken as a whole. They are 10-12 songs of amazing music that fit together in greatness, and outside of their late 80’s to mid 90’s radio and video hits, are really not better apart.
R.E.M. invented Alternative Rock and then made Alt-Rock popular. The inspired Radiohead, Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alanis Morrisette and so many of the great bands and singers of the late-80’s through to the end of 90’s with The White Stripes and Black Keys.
I can go days where I just listen to Fables of the Reconstruction over and over and over again, and that’s an album without a hit single. Yet it is a wonderful work of art.
Love of music is subjective, so I’m sure you’ve tried to like R.E.M. but they’re not your cup of tea. That’s cool. But their influence on music as a whole is honestly only eclipsed by The Beatles and Led Zeppelin and probably The Velvet Underground.
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HA! At 0500 this morning I looked up at my laughing wife and pulled my earbuds out. “You are a monkey!”,she said. Reckon I was singing along to what truly is one of the best albums ever.
I need a vacation.
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“I’ve been there I know the way!”
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For What it’s Worth:
As far as opinions go,
thought Clay Travis might be a country Singer.
Might be better trying that as a profession.
Dan Patrick has a Youtube channel. He has been diagnosed with a degenerative disease and really don’t know how much longer his show can carry on. He spoke openly about it in January of this year and broke down to tears.
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The bias, forced narratives, and social agendas found in sports media is no different than the “news”, it is just easier to spot. The comment stands for news, fan sites, radio talk shows, columnists, editorials etc. You have some scope of sources with their flaws.
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I see you accept the mainstream narrative.
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Have ya’ll read “White Fragility “. My wife read it and insisted that I do the same. I tried but didn’t get very far. Holy shit! That is one crazy bitch. Everyone from Ranger Russ to Derek is racist according to the author. Basically, if you are white, you are racist. ( I don’t know if Ranger and Derek are white, but I think they are). If you say you are not racist, that just proves how unaware you are. Also white liberals are some of the worst racist, so I guess she does have some valid points.
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Totally embraced by left wing media too:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI95vZyqHh6gIVDgiICR2aogflEAAYAiAAEgJno_D_BwE
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I’M TRIGGERED! Really, I am. That means something different around here though.
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Welcome your new woke overlords.
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Tests. Standard english.
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How many accused pedophiles has trump sent “well wishes” to?
“Law and order,” eh!
https://images.app.goo.gl/AHqkgVChcsj34HaG7
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He’s just a Man of the People, Derek… gag
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This is outrageous! I think Maxwell even went to Trump’s daughter’s wedding and Trump traveled with her to pedo island multiple times.
Or something.
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Sexual predators have to look out for one another. Its a shame almost a majority of voters voted for one to be pres.
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If only the better candidate had won!
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I mean, and I’m saying this without any political bias, I’m serious, she is the absolute worst representative for women as a woman. Her husband has cheated on her with more women just cheating than I probly been with in my life. And she put up with all that mess for political power and a chance to be president. Some women are on the streets in bad situations victimized abused and it’s tough for them to make their way to a halfway house. She had all the money and power and support she could need and still put up with that shit.
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Btw: if bill clinton fucked a kid he should go to prison.
Trump promotes pedos for the us senate and wishes them well.
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You’re obviously a white supremacist. Party is all that matters. All that matters is party.
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She’s got the tapes. I’ve got Fat Bastard looking for them.
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“Ronald Reagan’s 1961 recording for the American Medical Association’s Operation Coffee Cup, which claimed the passage of pending Medicare legislation would shortly lead to a complete takeover of all medical services by government and shortly thereafter, a socialist dictatorship. ”
It’s the same old song, with a different beat. . .
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How ridiculous! Government control of medicine for millions of citizens actually made the market MORE FREE.
#EconomicsIsHard
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Guess that’s why Canada, the United Kingdom, well, pretty much all of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries are all socialist dictatorships and have been for decades. Or it was BS then, and is still BS now. Or Ronnie’s brain worms started back a lot earlier than his 2nd term.
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$122 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
#Prosperity
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If they could vote to rid to rid themselves of government run health care the people of Canada, UK, Norway, Denmark and France would in a nanosecond! But alas they all live in dictatorships.
If they were democracies, the politicians would run on ridding their nations of such bad policy!
On the other hand maybe the opponents of single payor are just really fucking stupid.
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Of course! Actuaries are stupid. We’ll just print whatever money we need. The only reason people vote for free stuff is dispassionate economic analysis. My middle school teacher told me so.
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Anyone ever notice that the people most concerned about the supposed ill effects of democracy are the most solicitous of Russia intel interference and autocracy.
A truly remarkable convergence of treason and elitism masquerading as patriotic, populist, libertarianism.
But I suppose you can only expect so much from a pro-slavery, freedom fighter. And that expectation, repeatedly met I might add, is an avalanche of stupid. In that it never ever disappoints.
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YES! You went almost an entire Playpen without the #Treason accusation. Precious!
“We’ll know when our disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public believes is false.” – CIA Director William Casey
Yes, the intelligence communities may have lied about Iraq WMD, warrant-less spying on American citizens, impending Libyan genocide, Syria’s “moderate rebels”, and the idea that Trump was a blackmailed Putin agent (among countless other examples). But there’s just NO WAY that they would lie about THIS!
Sure, there’s no evidence. Sure, the CIA is only “moderately” confident, which means the rumors are unconfirmed. Sure, the story’s author admits that Russian support is not contingent on American soldiers killed (which means there is no bounty, by definition). Sure, the NSA strongly dissents from even the CIA’s lackluster support. Sure, Trump was never briefed because the rumors were unsourced and uncredited. And sure, this is the third or fourth time the Deep State has tried to derail a peace deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan with this exact same story (always leaked right around crucial developments in favor of a deal). But this time is different. And anybody who doubts the official story and thinks for themselves is a traitorous idiot poopyhead!
Derek’s foreign policy analysis is as cogent as ever.
#NeoConWarmonger
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He can’t help himself. The classics never die.
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I’m not alone:
https://www.businessinsider.com/did-trump-committ-treason-russia-summit-2018-7
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-finds-putin-denial-of-election-meddling-powerful
https://www.newsweek.com/did-trump-commit-treason-putin-meeting-heres-what-lawyers-say-1027643
https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/jul/23/treason-trumps-actions-russian-putin-meeting/
https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/readers-respond/bs-ed-rr-trump-treason-letter-20180723-story.html
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Yes, because if the media writes it or says it, it must be true.
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If it happened then its true right?
Other than Putin and Trump who has denied Russia interfered?
Everyone who has looked at it agrees. This includes the GOP led Senate intel committee. Trump’s cabinet nominees told the senate during confirmation that they agreed with the intel assessments that Russia interfered. The only American who denies Russian interference is Trump.
Aid and comfort to an enemy engaged in hostile activity on American soil is treason. You don’t need the media to tell you that.
Or a veterans group.
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So THIS is true… where everything else you harped on for three years wasn’t true, but this one, this thing… THIS IS TRUE?
Peddle it somewhere else, Derek. You’ve cried wolf and thrown around the word traitor far too much and with far too much abandon. It’s basically this blog’s version of “racist.” It literally has no meaning anymore other than, “person who Derek doesn’t like.”
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You’re ability to reason is non-existent.
If you know someone else who has investigated Russia interference in our elections and came to a different conclusion say so.
Your perceived frequency of my correctness doesn’t mean a thing.
The sun rises in the east.
Does that help?
How about this?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/07/21/uk-russia-election-interference-report/5457380002/
https://www.euractiv.com/section/elections/news/how-france-successfully-countered-russian-interference-during-the-presidential-election/
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-11-13/russian-interference-threatens-elections-across-the-world-including-ours
It isn’t about me. Its about your country.
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There’s no denying strong language like, “would be an escalation,” “officials have said,” “it would be the first time,” and again, “would also be a huge escalation.”
It’s the same old Russia hoax Da Vinci Code logic. If X happened, it might have led to Y. And if Y happened, it might have led to Z. 27 assumptions later, Trump is a Russian agent! What, you’re asking for evidence? Traitor!
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As long as we’re rehashing debunked conspiracy theories, those aren’t even the good ones.
Remember when Russia hacked the power grid in Vermont to shut off heat and kill people?
How about when CNN posted a story about Anthony Scaramucci being under Senate investigation for his involvement with a Russian hedge fund.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politics/editors-note/index.html
Ooh, the Russian sonic attack on American diplomats in Cuba!
What about when CNN lied about Lanny Davis being its source on a story about Cohen testifying to Congress about Trump knowing beforehand about the Trump Tower meeting? Which Davis then admitted was also a lie?
And finally, remember when CNN reported that Donald Trump, Jr. got an email giving him advance access to Wikileaks documents, but they got the date wrong and the documents were already public?
#GoodTimes
#OrangeManBad
#FoolMe27TimesShameOnYou
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The FBI and CIA are the bastion of integrity
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Why not roll the dice and cast your hopes with a delusional failed “reality personality”. It might just work out.
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Good point. Just because the Deep State abuses power and subverts the will of the people doesn’t mean we shouldn’t trust them.
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And a Deep Stater… Of course.
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Right. Because career government bureaucrats engineering an “insurance policy” in case the wrong candidate wins an election is just business as usual. No problems. Nothing to see here. As long as it benefits our side.
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Reality tv show hosts are the best with pandemics!! Everyone says so!
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#Leadership
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And how many of them have to spend what we spend on nuclear defense, alone, to protect them? How many have even a 10th of our sq milage? How many are as diverse? How many support the right to bear arms?
I hate these lazy ass comparisons to countries that live on our bounty, dont have our freedoms, are as big (minus Canada, although most of north Canada is a ice pack), as a texas county.
Move there then! Please.
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So there it is then: USA — policeman & beneficient supplier to the World!
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I would completely restructure our military. Although I think we need an actual better nuclear force, not bigger, modernized and streamlined and tested. I do not believe in supporting and taking care of these other countries and wouldn’t give them a penny. you would like that though.
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I wonder what he’d think of the US pulling out of the UN, or at least, stop paying for a quarter of their budget with American tax dollars? The UN, who allows China and Iran to control the Human Rights Abuse Council.
If there is a bigger, more fucked-up, anti-freedom organization in the world, I don’t know it.
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So many world wars since the UN too. In the decades just before the UN was established we had so much international peace!
Look it up!!
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Just the way we like it.
https://www.salon.com/2020/07/22/democrats-join-with-gop-to-vote-down-ilhan-omars-plan-to-withdrawal-us-troops-from-afghanistan_partner/
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https://www.newsweek.com/defeat-cancel-culture-vote-republican-opinion-1518933
An op-ed in Newsweek, considered a bonafide news outlet by many.
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I got a million pop ups…yikes
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Speaking of third world countries, I’ll be driving through LA to Gulf Shores,Al. I’m leaving Saturday morning. Booked a 12 hour trip Monday with the rest of my time fishing inshore for redfish, trout and sail catfish(excellent table fare). I’m amenable to advice on bait and technique inshore as I’ve never fished that area. Fishing under a bridge in the heat of the day isn’t something I’m adverse to. Contrary to Gurkha Dawg’s assumption, I’m not all caucasian and I damn sure ain’t white this time of year. Worry about skin cancer is a new thing for me.
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Happy to share advice on such things as I am an active fisherman in this arena. What do you want to know?
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I plan on using a Cajun Popper, 20 lb fluorocarbon leader, live shrimp, #4 Mustad offset circle hook on a Penn 4500 lined with braid for reds and trout. Got an old Battle Reel with monofilament, egg sinker and same hook with live minnows or pinfish I trap or net for bottom fishing. That’s what i have rigged. Various spoons and crankbaits also. Probably on shore a lot. Back is giving me a hard time.
Thanks for any advice.
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Use the popping corks to find the fish and always look for moving water. You wont catch anything but hard heads in areas with tidal movement. Once you find them use topwaters in the morning before it gets too hot. The bite will shut off mid day. Good idea to use a Carolina rig for the bigger trout. Small trout eat shrimp big trout eat fish. Mud minnows or small crokers are my go to for big trout.
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That’s the kind of advise I appreciate and will use. Whats the best way to acquire mud minnows and crokers? I generally trap and cast net minnows but ain’t too proud to buy em. I bought mud minnows 35 years ago last time I was doing this.
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I dont bother catching minnows or crokers. I just buy them at the launches. Unless I see schools of Pogies, than I will cast net for them. Trout love pogies.
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Thanks.
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Personally I like a 2500 size reel with a med-heavy rod and 30lb braid and a 17-20lbs floro leader.
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Wonder where you go?
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Various places in the SE La marshes
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That’s fantastic. I’m unemployed, working on that, but the lady and I are looking to get back into it. I’m really wanting to get into kayak fishing. We kayak a good bit, so add an adventure.
Ty for sharing and your tidbits. I’m in bay county.
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Outstanding! I have a 2016 Hobie outback I use to kayak fish in. Love fighting a 30-40 bull red in a kayak. They will take you for a ride!
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Right on! Those are very expensive. But crazy nice We just got a couple of Walmart kayaks we’ve had a long time, was going to stick a rod holder on it. I’d like to get a low in fishing kayak for myself, And for my lady just get her set up and I’ll carry gear bait whatever.
That’s really cool man. I really appreciate exchanges like this
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You can rig up just about anything for fishing with some PVC and some shade tree enjunuity. Even when going the lesser expensive route always get a sit on top kayak for fishing never a sit inside. Nothing worse that trying to fish with a wet ass all day.
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Oh yeah. To start we just wanna carry one midsize spin real. get some experience and see what we like and don’t like. Kitchen a read in a kayak just sounds really exciting. My dad was a competitive bass Fisher in the seventies into the eighties pretty much started the sport. I’ve caught and done about everything minus off coast so kayak fishing seems like a new interesting challenge that provides sun and my lady loves to float
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Should add, not experienced at coastal fishing solo. Lots of trips, but not without other dudes.
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I love it in the marsh because I can get into places a boat can’t get. Plus its silent so its easier to sneak up on some tailing reds in a shallow pond.
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Golden
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I like the bay too! https://live.staticflickr.com/8208/8211566353_1477e01ec3_b.jpg
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Is that you! Wunderbar! You come here?
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I also am a fan of the sound and action of the 4 horseman corks.
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If you can get to Alabama Point (the rocky point at the bridge between Orange Beach and Perdido) at sunrise you can catch a fish just about every cast with a rapala crank bait: Top water or a shallow runner. Not at the mouth but on the west side of the rocks near the end of the point. You can’t miss the bait fish schooling and getting chased. Just have to be there EARLY. Like before the sun.
They will quit as soon as the sun gets up. Its fun for awhile. Especially with light tackle. Just make sure your set with leaders and baits. With all those teeth out there you’re going to lose a few.
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Oh man, thanks for that advice. I have no problem getting up early n squirrely. Also I have a tackle box full of shallow run/L lip Rapalas with large red replacement rear treble hooks. I have quite a few red 1oz jig hooks. What color Assassin or body? Should I go to a heavier leader or is 20 lb enough?
It’s been 20 years but I have a lot of that tackle.
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20 should be fine, but they are so aggressive I’m not sure that or color matters much so I’d go with 30 lb leader just for safety. If it swims, they’ll hit it. Just make sure you know how to do a surgeons knot to connect the leader to your line. (tons of youtube videos if thats new to you.)
If you can figure out a bite AFTER they shut down, let us know. That may take color and more trickeration and more than I have patience for it, at least in that heat.
I’d say find a late breakfast and an early beer and try back near sunset.
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Fluorocarbon to braid I tie a double uni knot doubling the braid on itself. Terminal to crankbait I tie a Rapala knot. Allows for more action. Netknots.com has been a boon to my faltering memory.
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Use snaps with plugs. Cut the o ring off.
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Learn the FG knot. Its the best for floro to brain. Slimmest knot and strongest in tests.
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Alright. Found a box with 4” Catch 2000 mirror lures NIB. Various jighead hooks and gold and silver spoons. I’ll get a new roll of leader and scout Alabama Point Saturday afternoon. Be fishing Sunday morning at first light with Rapalas.
Many thanks, fellows. I’ll report back.
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Ah.. a little to far to meet up. Hope you have fun
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I got to Seagrove and the Choctawhatchee Bay. Usually rent a yak and that year was an outlier as they no longer will rent the foot pedal units.
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https://apple.news/AKQn-vFPoSyCkVzHT5yex-w
Can’t wait for the wingnuts to blame the libs for setting fires and the media for overemphasizing the degree of the flooding.
“New York is only under water because libs run it! Look at Laramie, Wyoming! Totally dry.”
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I thought Clay Travis was a country singer.
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Yeah but he really sucks at that too.
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Honest question here 300 some-odd comments later:
If the FDA announced a 75% effective vaccine was available, would you take it?
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If it would let me get back to redfishin I would!
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Yes
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