“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”
IPTAY, bitchez!
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“If you’re hesitant about letting us continue to spend your money like drunken sailors, please, think of the children.”
Filed under Clemson: Auburn With A Lake, It's Just Bidness
“We have a long way to go to get to where we need to go,” Smart said. “That’s nothing to do with Oregon. That’s nothing to do with anybody we play. That’s to do with the Georgia Bulldogs...”-- Kirby Smart, AJ-C, 8/14/22
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None of those donors need their money back and therefore they shouldn’t ask for any of it back.
They knew what they were getting into when they paid.
After all there is no reliable statistical correlation between money and happiness, no matter what the media says.
Just shut up and pay.
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The universities in the Power 5 make money hand over fist. Forbes has Clemson’s football program alone taking in $77 million last year and I don’t think they are counting TV revenue at all. How is it they run their finances so terribly? Do the other sports operate in the red?
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I think what they do is run their finances so well that it looks like a loss.
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The Hollywood way.
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Yeah, they take Non-Profit to mean it!
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Our version of this is coming soon. I’m just dying to know what BS they are going to try to peddle to us.
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The problem is that it’s not a donation. It’s quid pro quo. Even the federal government says it’s not a donation.
Really looking forward to the first class action lawsuit against an athletic association for return of this money.
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It’s a Personal Seat License (PSL). They can call it whatever they want (donation, contribution, etc.) but, like you said, the federal government finally caught up to the general public and saw through that nonsense. Their scam is officially over.
I’m really enjoying seeing these organizations start to squirm. It’s been a long time coming.
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And like McGarity says about his precious reserve fund: “It’s for a rainy day.” It’s raining, my friend.
McGarity said early on that ticket money would be refunded, but not Hartman Fund money, “because that’s a donation – it’s ours.” What a bad look that would be with $100 million cash sitting in the bank.
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That would be an extremely bad look when every other school so far has given the option of refunding the “donation” money.
They even had a blurb on the Georgia Bulldog Club site in the spring that said donations would be refunded if the season was cancelled. They removed it once they collected everyone’s money but it was there for at least a few weeks. Even with how stingy they are and how much they love to hoard money, I would still be really surprised if they attempt to get away with not offering PSL/donation refunds.
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The federal government did not “catch up” – Congress actually passed a law which included the removal of the specific statutory provision that allowed 80% of the donation to be deducted, and the President signed the bill…
Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean it was sinister or hidden – in fact, the express statutory provision authorizing the deduction was right out in the open for everyone to see…
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They caught up to the general public’s opinion that it was nonsense. Just because you liked it and are getting defensive about it doesn’t mean it isn’t over.
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“Ten.”
“I do not think this word means what you think it means.”
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Taters….
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It was a donation, correct? Who asks for donations back?
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Ha, apparently their mindset was that they were purchasing something, not donating to something. Not looking so generous now…
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Considering that both quantity and quality of tickets are directly tied to how much you “donate,” you are purchasing something. That’s why you can’t write it off as a charitable contribution (a.k.a., a donation).
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Oh I agree with the semantics…I think they should obviously allow it to be put toward next years donation…especially if the “donator” doesn’t get to buy tickets this year.
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LOL, the chickens are coming home to roost. I love it.
While we’re on this topic…is the Butts-Mehre Country Club ever going to communicate to their customers the plan for tickets and refunds? I realize they set the standard for dragging things out as long as possible but this is ridiculous.
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Well, they basically bought themselves an extra month to dilly-dally, so hold your horses.
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I donate solely for the right to buy tickets.If I get no tickets, I want my money back or applied to next year. As someone mentioned above, it’s not really a donation. Maybe that rainy day McGarity always brings up with regards to reserve fund is here.
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Just to be clear, It rained on us as well Greg.
In GA, we forget how closed the rest of the country still is frankly, and it has affected many bottom lines for sure.
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“Just to be clear, It rained on us as well Greg.”
Somehow that is what is often overlooked. Some want the masses, that have less, to contribute to those that have more just because those that have more may end up with less of the more that they could have had. (I hope I said that right, I confused myself) Like 65 million isn’t enough when they could have 75 million. And to add to that insult, they pretend it’s for the good of all involved. And it’s not just college admin that lives that life.
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Why are you crying about needing money? Lots of people don’t have money and are perfectly happy.
Who wants to read about donors whining about being out money that they don’t need and will be perfectly fine without? Why? Because I say so.
I’ve looked at it very closely, checked all available data and have decided for you, that you don’t need it.
Your judgment otherwise is just wrong.
Just shut up and pay.
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Something like 56,000 people in the Hartman Fund, but I’m glad you can declare with such confidence that nobody needs that money back. People save up the money all year. Others pay a little every month or every week. It’s not all Zaxby’s and Coca-Cola execs.
And if you can’t or won’t contribute to the Hartman Fund, I’m not sure you opinion on other people’s money is worth much.
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But if non-players can tell players to shut up and play b/c they’re are no real worries, why can’t a non-donor tell the donors to shut up and pay b/c they don’t need the money?
I think the stats I pull out of my hind parts will bear out that I’m correct in saying that everyone one of the donors will be fine without the money.
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I think I missed the tongue-in-cheek aspects of your comment. Apologies.
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Aren’t there only 56,000 seats purchased through Hartman ? meaning the actual number of participants is significantly lower than that, given that 1 person can buy up to 8 tickets. (doesn’t that seem like a lot going forward—8 tickets on one account)
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I gotta hand it to McGarity. I thought there would be no fact pattern in which the reserve fund would be needed that wasn’t also the end of college football, making it moot. I did not consider a global pandemic.
These days, I bet he’s home at night with the quarterly statements doing this: https://media.giphy.com/media/crwYkI49Crd1C/giphy.gif
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McGarity admiring his achievement
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Could the athletic departments take out a loan to cover their shortfall?
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As my USCum friend Prewitt says,”Fuckn taters.”
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If this isn’t a rainy day, then what is?
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