Shot, re-fired

This time it’s for real, apparently.

Damned media pressure…

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UPDATE:  And…

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UPDATE #2:  Note Feldman’s last comment.

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69 responses to “Shot, re-fired

  1. Ran A

    Well there were some big claims from some coaches up there yesterday… Penn State heading to the ACC?

    Will say it again… The SEC has played this perfectly so far… Push their dates out as far as they could, to give them room to adjust.

    Why not push back the dates before just shutting it all down? Mind blowing…

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  2. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Now the games begin. Nebraska and Ohio State have already said they’ll go their own way this year. Let’s see if Michigan, PSU, and others join them.

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  3. practicaldawg

    Big Mess

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  4. Don in Mar-a-Lago

    Springtime for B1G Ten and Herbie

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  5. ASEF

    Would the B1G surrender media rights to one or more of their schools? No.

    Would the B1G, which says it is postponing their season until spring, allow one of their schools to play both this fall and then turn around immediately for a second spring season, followed immediately by a third fall season? No. And honestly, the individual schools would never do that, either.

    Speaking of which – the medical risks of two seasons in one year, one spring and one fall, are different from Covid risks, but they’re quite real.

    What a cluster.

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  6. So two seasons in one calendar year? How is that protecting player safety?

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    • pdchearn

      There is no guarantee there will be two seasons. Or even one. The SEC may be waiting but that doesn’t mean they won’t pull the plug too.

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  7. Castleberry

    You think Fields can transfer back and play immediately? If this happened, I project GTP to surpass Google for # of hits.

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  8. They did what they thought was best. The sucking sound is all of the talent that will be leaving schools across the B1G to get ready for the draft or to enter the portal.

    I wonder if Pablo Fields has sent a moving company to Columbus to move his son out to return to Marietta.

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    • Bay Area Dawg

      If and that’s a big if they have a spring season it could actually be kind of interesting because you might could get some early upsets as teams have to replace numerous starters for two straight years. Ohio State would be the prime example could you imagine the changes to their starting lineup from the team that lost to Clemson in 2019 to the team that would take the field in Spring 2021.

      I still think the chance the spring season happens is like 5% max.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        Spring Football is the most insidious lie yet. Ain’t happening.

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        • I tend to agree with you, but it depends on how badly they need the money then.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

            I actually think, if anything will make players sit out and demand a union, it’s their schools telling them they have to play two full seasons in one calendar year. While everything else is theoretical, we know doing this will exponentially increase the risks for brain and ligament injuries. Their bodies need time to heal.

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          • Where’s the money going to come from? Ticket sales … maybe at some schools. TV … if they can convince someone to pay them while the networks buy out of existing agreements.

            I guess they could get games on the BTN plus ESPN+ or Fox Sports online platform.

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            • Granthams Replacement

              The Rock is looking like a genius right now. If the xfl can move fast they’ll have a large selection of low cost good football players. Sales pitch – I’ll pay you $100,000 a year for 3 years and get you ready for the nfl…….

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              • The problem is no one will watch. I certainly won’t watch the XFL as minor/developmental league football.

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                • Texas Dawg

                  Starve people from live sports for long enough, and they will watch anything. Do you remember what was on ESPN the first few years? They were the only game in town for 24hr “sports” and people watched professional softball, Worlds Strongest Man and things I have never even heard of.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  It’s working like gangbusters for golf. Ratings through the roof. Baseball has been about the same. Not so much NASCAR and NBA. With more people unemployed since during the depths of the last decade, you’d think 3pm NBA games would get better ratings, but they’re in the tank.

                  What I’d love to see is if the SEC, ACC, Big-12, and AAC establish themselves as the Power Four and absolutely own the airwaves for the entire Autumn and Winter.

                  The Pac-12 and Big Ten will have signed their own death warrant. No viable blue chip athlete would go play there, I don’t care how good a recruiter Ryan Day is. Seriously, the biggest winners here would be the AAC.

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              • The Rock will save the country! ….. Rock for VP!

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        • David K

          There’s a real chance they won’t play next fall either. Giant crowds of maskless bikers are in Sturgis now watching Smashmouth in concert. There’s enough proudly ignorant people out there that will continue to drag down any hopes of this country getting its act together. As long as it’s a right wing sign of weakness to wear a mask and socially distance we’re all fucked.

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      • Unless they are going to play literally every game on the Big 10 Network, I don’t see how they play in the spring unless they convince Fox to trash some of their existing programming on their family of networks and move some of their games to weeknights.

        I agree about the probability of a spring season. It just doesn’t work.

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  9. willypmd

    Every Big-10 President wants to grow up to be an Ivy League President, lots of pressure to conform for these administrators.

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  10. With the Big 10 and Pac-12 going down, do you guys really think the SEC is still going to play this fall? Serious question.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      SEC, Big-12, and ACC.

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    • I think the SEC and ACC are planning to play. The question is whether the Big 12-2 is going to go along (which depends on what Texas wants because what UT wants they get).

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    • Got Cowdog

      I hope they do. If they get their collective heads out of their asses they can, and look like heroes doing it. Here’s how:
      “We are taking all available precautions to keep our players safe, however, any player that opts out keeps their scholarship for the year.”
      “We are aware of the growing unrest among our players surrounding current events. To help alleviate these concerns we would suggest the formation of a Players Association to address these concerns.”
      ” Upon forming a Player’s Association we will open negotiations for player compensation, beginning with allowing Student Athletes to profit from their social media activity immediately.”
      Of course there would be some fine print, insurance coverage for illness (which I think they already have) family visits, etc.
      The NCAA’s collective head would explode, Greg would tell Mark to STFD and STFU the grown-ups are talking, we get to see an SEC heavy season with UGA as the Champs. It could work …

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    • Bay Area Dawg

      Yes, unless one more of the Power 5 drops out. The big question mark right now is the Big 12.

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  11. mp

    This is from Pete Thamel – “Last night, the Big Ten began hypothetically discussing what teams would do in the fall if the season got moved to the spring. It was contentious, as the bigger programs still want to play this fall. It marked one of the first hypothetical conversations about this topic.” THE FIRST HYPOTHETICAL DISCUSSIONS AFTER 5 MONTHS OF THE VIRUS? !?

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  12. There was another interesting development recently that I think dovetails in a very interesting way with these recent season canceling announcements (PAC12 & BiG). The Rock seems to have purchased the XFL with a fairly sizable contribution from PE sponsors. Timing couldn’t be better for athletes that want to play regardless of their conference’s statuses. This dude just started a semi-pro league with none of the NCAA bullshit rules, academic standards, or arcane transfer rules. There may well be “college” football in the Fall, it just going to look much different than anyone expected.

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  13. mp

    From Nicole Auerbach:

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    A high-ranking Big Ten source tells TheAthletic that the conference is aware of at least 10 players who have myocarditis, the rare heart condition

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    • debbybalcer

      Yikes

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      Okay… I can’t believe I need to provide this information which should be stated every time someone brings up covid-19 and myocarditis:

      EVERY SINGLE VIRAL ILLNESS CAN CAUSE MYOCARDITIS. EVERY ONE.

      Even the freaking common cold. Yes. Even the common cold can cause myocarditis. This virus does not have superpowers. FFS.

      Some of y’all keep telling me I’m crazy because I see the media pushing a narrative and trying to get a football season cancelled. Why else would they first push REDUCED LUNG CAPACITY as if any respiratory illness doesn’t come with that possibility and now MYOCARDITIS as if any viral illness can’t cause it?

      Because they believe you all are dumb enough to believe them without either knowing they’re full of crap because you have family who are doctors and nurses (me) or that you won’t do a quick google search.

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      • debbybalcer

        So you want to ignore the risk because it does not fit your narrative.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          Debby, you literally have the same risk any time you get a common cold. That’s not narrative. That’s actual scientific fact. Are you running to the doctor to get an angiocardiogram after any viral infection you have? No? You’re not? That’s because you’re sane. So why are you buying the b.s. here?

          The narrative being pushed is that this virus has superpowers when it’s just a virus. It comes with the same complications any virus has. That includes myocarditis. For a respiratory illness, that includes diminished lung capacity. Even a URI can do that to a person.

          You’re being fed half truths and it makes you scared. That is the goal.

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          • mp

            I know it can arise from any virus. But are you saying the rate of incidence of myocarditis is the same for Covid as it is for the flu? Are you not even going to entertain the possibility that the rate might be higher? (I wold love to see that data.) Because I sure as heck don’t hear about a subset of players being afflicted with it during flu season every year. And, the 10 come from just the number of players who have thus far tested positive for Covid.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              The have not tied the five players who have myocarditis to covid-19. They simply said they had it. Everyone is freaking out. The media is sustaining the freakout for their own aims.

              No one is asking enough questions. Someone last week mentioned critical thinking. We never question anymore. We just consume.

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              • mp

                Part of critical thinking is recognizing you don’t have enough data and risk mitigation is appropriate to buy more time to learn more. If you’re only questioning hard on the other side, you’re not being critical thinker, you are just being a contrarian.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  No, I’m using a rational approach.

                  You can only develop myocarditis if you have covid-19 in a symptomatic form. You cannot get it is you are asymptomatic. That means you have to test positive and then have the fever and all the rest.

                  Kids will not simply drop dead from having myocarditis. There has to be exertion. Do you think teams, which will be taking kids temps before and after every practice, workout, and game, will allow them to practice, workout, or play if they have a high temperature? No, they won’t.

                  The NBA is the league with the most exertion and thus possibility of a player dropping dead in practice or on the court. Yet they are playing.

                  Also, this study that the media has picked up on was done for imaging only, which means there’s not a whole lot of medical practicality you can get out of it. Also, it was also for patients much older than college aged. So again, why are we freaking out about it?

                  See? Rational thinking.

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  14. bcdawg97

    What happens to the CFB playoffs if the SEC, ACC and Big 12 decide to play in the fall? With the Big 10/PAC 12 waiting until spring, no 2020 national champion?

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  15. CB

    How much do the amateurism romantics stick to their guns when the fear of unionization actually threatens to cancel the season? My guess is they finally realize the players getting paid doesn’t effect their lives.

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