Stupid is as stupid does.

Shot.

Chaser.

That “if” probably isn’t doing as much heavy lifting as Freeze hopes it is.

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24 responses to “Stupid is as stupid does.

  1. Doug Gillett

    Well, if there’s one university we can trust to put science before politics and take the COVID pandemic seriously, it’s Liberty.

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  2. FlyingPeakDawg

    Bringing religion to the argument. Popcorn please!

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  3. kingcmo2000

    Coaches gaming tests… who would have thunk it.

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  4. gurkhadawg

    You guys crack me up. The hospital where I work only tests physicians if they are showing symptoms. The hospital is one of the largest in the state. (2nd or 3rd). This hospital policy was arrived at by a committee of infectious disease and critical care specialists. Religion and politics played no role in the policy. But don’t let that stand in the way of more brilliant insights. I’ll be sure to pass them on the next time I see those ID and critical care guys.

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    • No offense, gurkha, but I think you miss the point here.

      They aren’t playing in a hospital and I doubt Hugh Freeze is an infectious disease and critical care specialist.

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    • Your hospital needs to put aside the science and get on board with the narrative.

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    • TN Dawg

      That’s interesting.

      It would be informative to know if Hugh Freeze unilaterally decided not to test players or if he is following the safety protocols advised by medical professionals advising the athletic department and the University.

      My guess is the latter, given that the article notes “Liberty University’s guidelines do not require testing without symptoms and suggest testing for asymptomatic students is voluntary” and “Liberty released a statement saying the school continues “to meet all guidelines set forth by Liberty University, the local Department of Health, the Commonwealth of Virginia…”

      This would seem to indicate that Hugh Freeze’s level of expertise in infectious disease and critical care would be largely irrelevant. It’s much more likely that Freeze’s statement is not a “stupid” comment used to justify his own personal opinion of why they shouldn’t, but is simply a statement made to report the current state of affairs regarding infections at the program, as well as give a continuing update on the protocols the University has in place.

      Most industries are following similar protocols, which would be to quarantine individuals with positive tests, to ask individuals if they have had symptoms, to request individuals that have displayed symptoms to refrain from activities until they have been tested, and to preform routine symptom checks such as temperature checks.

      This seems to be a common sense approach and, as you noted, mirrors that of mainstream medical facilities.

      I suspect that N.C. State scheduled the game, as most P5 schools do, to fill the schedule with a winnable game, satisfy television contracts and to profit from parking proceeds, concession sales, ticket sales and advertising revenue, a portion of which would pay Liberty for playing.

      Faced with the reality that the game will be played without fans, thus removing the financial incentives, NC State is now trying to use the testing protocols as cause to break its contract with Liberty without incurring costs associated with that action.

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      • That must come as a disappointment to you.

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      • You may be right… Who can imagine that Freeze would make a stupid statement. Or that “Liberty” U. would not be the salve for Dummy’s bruised up ego. Little Falwell has had experience sucking up to God knows how many $Men before he pulled down Dummy’s diapers. Little Falwell is as interested in religion and education as Jim Jones.

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    • Derek

      Do I believe a hospital is deviating from CDC protocol because you say so?

      No, I don’t.

      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/testing-healthcare-personnel.html

      You’re welcome to post the written protocol at this hospital that contradicts the cdc.

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      • gurkhadawg

        Are you calling me a liar Derek? That’s a new low, even for you. The communication was an internal email to the medical staff. So no, I will not post it. If I find something that was sent out publicly I’ll post it.

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        • gurkhadawg

          I just looked at the CDC guidelines the you referenced. Nothing I said violates those guidelines with the possible exception of testing after known exposure to known covid positive patients. We wear full PPE when around those patients.

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          • Wait, Derek smugly posted something that didn’t support his claim that you lied? Inconceivable!

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          • Derek

            “The hospital where I work only tests physicians if they are showing symptoms.”

            Your words. Not mine.

            Apology accepted.

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            • gurkhadawg

              Wut? Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. I come in contact with covid positive patients all the time. I wear full PPE during contact with covid positive patients. Even with these contacts, I will not be tested unless I become SYMPTOMATIC. This has been the case since March. I have not been tested so far. You can believe me or not believe me, I have no control over that.

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              • Joshua Garrett

                I, like gurkha, am also a physician and see a fair amount of covid. We, the physicians and nurses in the emergency department, do not get tested everytime we are in contact with covid-suspected patients. This is largely due to all of the precautions and PPE. We would each have to test every day, otherwise. Should any of us become symptomatic, though, he or she would be tested and quarantined until the results of the test dictate the next steps. I think this is pretty standard across the board and is pretty reasonable for that situation.

                A bunch of 20 year olds, huffing and puffing, crowded, and banging into each other with no PPE, likely need more routine screening.

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    • ASEF

      Hospitals: highly regimented SOPs and enormous environmental controls. Doctors, who are highly educated on behavioral risks and trained in the use of PPE.

      Football programs: 18-21 year old males, mixing on campus with other young adults from a wide range of areas.

      Hospitals are not football programs, and football programs are not hospitals.

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