Your 9.2.20 Playpen

It’s a rare Playpen that sticks to football as its topic, but this seems like a good subject for discussion:

Sadly, as a Georgia fan, there are too many “what ifs”, but if I had to choose one, it would be:  what if Chris Conley had the presence of mind to drop the pass than ended the 2012 SECCG?

Sigh.

“What if” to your heart’s content in the comments.

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  1. munsonlarryfkajim

    What if Parrish has jammed the receiver or Sanders had gotten off the hash and the play had ended in an interception instead of a TD?

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  2. Granthams Replacement

    Erk gets the job instead of Goff.

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    • reipar1

      I like this what if as it is on an institutional level instead of on a single player.

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    • bucketheridge

      Agree re: Erk.

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    • Harold Miller

      We get Fish Fry as an OC. Hummm…

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        Half of the Big 8 were still running and winning with the wishbone in 1989.

        Nebraska had Osborn’s I-Form Option and was racking up conference titles and big time bowl wins.

        If Georgia is one of two teams in 1989 running the option (Vandy is the other), then I think, especially given how revolutionary Fish Fry’s option was for the time (it was literally like no other option offense), then I think even Ray Goff couldn’t screw up a couple of the conference titles we would’ve won.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        *A note, because I left a thought unfinished… Erk with Fish Fry in the early to mid-90’s = a National title.

        If Ray Goff had hired Fish Fry and went to an option, I think even Ray Goff gets a conference title under his belt. He couldn’t have screwed it up.

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    • tiredofidsearch

      Ooooh that’s a good one.

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  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    Grrrr. Too many. Curse of Herschel.

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  4. Derek

    Saban gets Drew Brees to Miami rather than Culpepper?

    Dooley took the Auburn job and Erk becomes HC? Repeat Erk as HC in 1988.

    Corch takes the ND job over UF?

    Tech sticks with the SEC in 1964 and beyond.

    Jan Kemp was a college football fan?

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  5. sniffer

    Vince had gotten Sheridan.

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    • jwh44

      Vince didn’t want Sheridan. Knapp wanted Sheridan. Knapp had met Sheridan during a coaching search at Tulane, before he came to UGA. When Dooley’s position came open, Knapp focused in on Sheridan to the exclusion of other candidates, including Erk. When the Sheridan deal fell through for many reasons, Knapp was left without a backup plan and had already burned the bridge with Erk. That, ultimately, led to the panic hire of Goff.

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  6. Ran A

    What if Richt had turned it over to A.M. – trusting the guy, who they had called a coach on the field for the last two years, forcing Bama to keep the defense they had on the field and letting Aaron call the play lined up behind center?

    This has always been my problem with the end of that game.

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    • Derek

      They did trust him.

      He was supposed to throw left. He threw right.

      We’d have been better off had we not trusted him.

      That remains the unsaid thing about that last play. We were on the right hash.

      Any blitz is coming from that side because bama has 1 ilb and our rb is right of murray and staying in to block. Its a tougher throw and catch into the boundary. Their toughest corner is right.

      Throw it up left to King and he has room to make a play and at worst the db probably has to commit a penalty to prevent a td.

      11 got enamored with 26. The throw should have gone left.

      Confetti. Cheers. Tears. Trophy. Another natty win over nd.

      If aaron throws left.

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      • bucketheridge

        The play by the Bama linebacker to get his hand on that ball deserves more credit. That was a TD without his outstanding play.

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        • Derek

          Poor block by Gurley. Should have never let him jump.

          Not sure about the play result. Thats a tough throw and catch. Malcolm has no space to work and its a not a great angle for the qb. Its not as if 26 broke free either.

          Would have had to be a perfect, high throw right over their guys helmet. If Malcolm could have high pointed it, maybe.

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          • bucketheridge

            Take this “my friend said…” for what it’s worth, but a great friend of mine taught him at Valdosta. He told her that it was a TD. No one can say what would’ve happened, but there’s no doubt in my mind that he’d have caught it. Malcolm isn’t one to blow smoke.

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            • Derek

              I wouldn’t expect him to say anything else.

              Keep in mind though that if 26 jumps and catches it, their guy can just push him out of bounds before he gets a toe down.

              Another reason why left was the play.

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              • mddawg

                My (albeit limited) understanding is that the play was always intended to go right to Malcolm Mitchell. If he catches it, it’s a TD and game over obviously. If it misses or is caught out of bounds, you still have time on the clock for another play.

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    • I don’t get what you are saying here. Are you referring to the end of the 2012 SECCG? How did they not trust Murray there? I am not following.

      Is my sarcasm meter off this morning?

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      • akascuba

        TG3 admitted the tipped pass was his fault. The play called for him to step forward into the oncoming pass rusher. Instead he held his ground which allowed the pass to be tipped resulting in the game ending catch.

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    • My what if came in the first half. What if they called Quinton Dial for the cheap shot block that should have been targeting on an interception Murray threw?

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      • It does change field position but not possession. The ball would have been moved back 15 yards from the end of the run. Would Bama have made a 37 yard FG instead of a 22 yard FG? If so, nothing would have changed. If not, Dawgs kick a chip shot FG to win the game instead of having to go for the TD.

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  7. Agreed. For me it doesn’t get any bigger than 2012.

    Haven’t felt any heartbreak bigger than that game. Not even Tua’s dagger in 2017. Unfortunately when I think of 2012 SECCG two things are emblazoned on my memory:

    1) Conley catching that ball.
    2) How relieved/elated/shocked/thrilled Saban looked in the immediate post-game/on-field interview.

    Ugh.

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    • gurkhadawg

      I think that game was the hardest hitting football game I have ever seen. Two heavyweights bludgeoning each other for 60 minutes.

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    • Derek

      The sadness of that situation is magnified by these factors:

      1) we weren’t nearly the team alabama was. That game should not have been close. We out coached and out gritted that alabama team by a lot.
      2) cmr was doing things the right way. Saban was mercenary. We win and we underscore that good guys can win, doing things the right way.
      3) the disaster that was 2013 pretty much ended what had been the most miraculous come back Ive seen in cfb. Most of the time you see a descent like we saw from 2008-2010 and you don’t come back without a coaching change. CMR did a helluva job to bring us back. He deserved a better result.

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      • Down Island Way

        “What if”…UGA beats the bammers and n.d…is Mark Richt still the UGA hc, where is UGA today..(i get the “at least UGA has another trophy”)

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        • Maybe if Richt gets the title, he then has the leverage to get the facility upgrades he had been asking Evans and McGarity for. Maybe with the title, Richt’s enthusiasm for the job gets rekindled. Maybe we wouldn’t have had to rip the fan base apart for 3 years as the “Fire Richt, Keep Richt” crowd yelled at each other while Bama and LSU took over the conference.

          Maybe we don’t get Kirby at this time and Richt decides to retire. Kirby cuts his teeth at South Carolina or somewhere else and comes home.

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  8. gurkhadawg

    What if the ref hadn’t been bribed to call Tyler Simmons offsides. Bama would have never recovered. The game was over.

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    • I thought the game would have been over if Jake hadn’t thrown his pick immediately after Tua threw his.

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      • Derek

        Why we were throwing there is beyond me. Reminded me of the falcons vs the patriots.

        You’re in fg range. Rtdb and kick a FG Shanahan/Cheney!!

        Our play was there. It doesn’t hit the helmet its a big gainer. Of course with our luck sony drops it like brice hunter did in knoxville in 1995.

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      • gurkhadawg

        I agree Senator but the pick was our fault. We have no one to blame but our own play. Simmons made a perfect play. I mean PERFECT. And we get screwed. Damn, I’m getting chest pain, gotta let it go.

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      • Castleberry

        The last time Jake ever threw to the middle of the field. Fact.

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      • Kevin Feeney

        I feel like I’ve watched that interception the most of all the plays in that game. It hits a Bama guy in the helmet as he’s getting owned by our lineman and getting blocked backwards, then goes in the air right to the only defensive lineman that’s not on the ground. Anywhere else and we’re fine, the ball just goes incomplete. And I totally agree with you that we win without that pick.

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    • silvercreekdawg

      Simmons being onside was irrelevant frankly. Bama committed a dead ball false start on that play and it should have never happened.

      The bigger what-if in that game, to me, was the Big10 officials completely missing a false start on the Bama WR on the 4th down TD that tied the game. If you watch the replay, the WR at the bottom of the screen leaves the LOS a good second before the ball is snapped.

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      • (if that is so, then why was the flag dropped immediately — you know, when the penalty occured?)

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      • Migraine Boy

        Or calling the blatant face mask on Swift
        Or the personal foul on shoving Jakes head in the turf after a tackle
        Or Roquon getting tackled from behind as he’s closing in on Tua for a sack before his big scramble.

        Yeah I’ll never be over it….

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  9. bucketheridge

    Spurrier attends Tennessee.

    Teddy Roosevelt doesn’t express support for college football.

    Georgia Tech stays in the SEC.

    The SEC never expands.

    The SEC doesn’t create a championship game.

    Florida beats Bama in the first SEC championship game, costing them a shot at the national championship.

    Greene and Edwards hook up for a TD in 2002.

    Glenn Mason doesn’t renege.

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  10. I can think of about 3 or 4 “what ifs” from the CFP Championship game. Ugh…it should be 2017 National Champions for Georgia.

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    • bucketheridge

      The what if that stands out in my mind for the 2017 game was the Fromm interception that was on a ball tipped by a Bama lineman’s helmet. At that point in the game, Tua had just thrown an interception, and we took over around Bama’s 40 or 45 if I remember correctly. We were fixing to put that game away, but that fluke saved Bama.

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      • Also, what if the ref calls the obvious false start by the Bama WR on the TD to tie the game at 20? Or, we make the tackle on Tua for the sack that he escapes to keep the drive alive that ends in a TD. Or, Chaney/Smart don’t let the foot off the gas after the INT you reference?

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  11. Got Cowdog

    I’ll take “Tyler Simmons was onside” for $1000.00, Alex.

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  12. MGW

    The SC loss in 2007. We were unstoppable by season’s end.

    I’d also love to live in a world where there were two non-SEC undefeated P5 teams in 2006 and 2008 so Florida would have been shut out of the BCS.

    Also some turn of events that stopped Bama from backing into the BCS in 2011 and the playoff in 2017 without even playing in the SEC championship. Bunch of BS. Of all the teams to get that sort of luck…

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  13. The biggest “what if” is what if Herschel doesn’t sign that damned contract with the USFL.

    Potentially a second national title and the 4th SEC championship in a row
    A second Heisman Trophy and every other meaningful award in 1983
    The every NCAA career rushing record put in a place no one ever touches it
    The stats that Herschel generated in the USFL would have been NFL stats – he’s in the Hall of Fame

    What if …

    There are others:
    What if Stafford’s TD pass in the South Carolina game doesn’t get dropped in 2007? What if Kentucky or Vandy hold on against 10rc in 2007?
    What if that batted pass in 2012 falls safely to the floor of the Georgia Dome? I’ll never blame Conley for that.
    What if Terrence Edwards catches the perfectly thrown pass in 2002?
    What if Michael Johnson doesn’t catch the perfectly thrown pass in 2002?

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    • Derek

      My problem with making the Herschel thing a “what if?” is that we all know the answer.

      The rest of your list makes me ill. I shouldn’t have to face all of that in one sitting. I think i need therapy now…again….

      Somethings are better left unsaid.

      Like Robert Edwards’ foot injury.

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      • I’m going to make you more ill this morning, Derek. 😉

        What if the official doesn’t recognize the time out call in the Gator Bowl in 1993?
        What if we could have held on to the ball against Tennessee in 1992?
        What if multiple missed calls hadn’t been missed in the 2nd half in MBS in January 2018?
        What if DJ doesn’t hurt his knee against Arkansas in 2005?

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        • Derek

          What if CKS doesn’t think Rodrigo can run for it on a 4th and NINE!!!!

          What if CKS PUNTS THE FUCKING BALL!

          What is the line judge wasn’t fucking stupid and called Sanks down?

          Just too many….

          Of course, we all know the flea flicker vs Bama in 1965 was legit, amirite?

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          • What if Damian Gary doesn’t field that squib kick cleanly in Knoxville in 2001?
            What if CMR tells them to kick it deep against Tech in 2014?
            What if Kirby tells Hot Rod to kick it deep in 2016?
            What if Lambert hits Malcolm Mitchell on the opening play of the 2015 Bama game?

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          • One more: What if Tae Crowder doesn’t cleanly field the squib kick at the end of the first half in the Rose Bowl or Lincoln Riley has them kick it deep?

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        • Got Cowdog

          Why don’t we just retitle the post “Why Are Georgia Fans So Neurotic?”

          My eye is twitching and I’m not allowed to keep bourbon at my desk anymore.

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        • Wolfman

          The first thing I thought about after Conley was what happens if we just don’t turn it over one last time against Tennessee in ’92?

          But also:
          What if the staff hadn’t convinced Roquan to put off signing his LOI to UCLA?
          What if Auburn doesn’t run the ball with no time at the goal line in ’92? (Or, what if we don’t in ’01?)
          What if the kicker from UCF doesn’t miss the extra point and they wind up winning in ’99? What of Donnan then?
          What if Kentucky (or VANDY!!) had actually beaten Tennessee in ’07 like they were supposed to?

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  14. Most people don’t realize that the search to replace Dooley was conducted out of a bank in Athens. I had friends working there, in the executive area, where calls were being made.

    Spurrier’s people called wanting an interview. They were told no thank you.

    What if.

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    • Dawg93

      I hope that bank has burned to the ground.

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    • Derek

      I’m glad we never had Saban, Spurrier or Corch in Athens. Some things are more important than winning. Class, dignity, sportsmanship, etc…

      I’d have taken Bear Bryant though.

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      • gurkhadawg

        Agree. Like I’ve said previously on this same subject: “what good is it to gain the whole world if you forfeit your soul.”

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          I’m sorry, but this is bullshit.

          Y’all wouldn’t want Saban? Are you kidding me?

          Corch I get. That guy is a slime ball.

          Saban is not only the greatest head coach in the history of CFB, he also, from all appearances, does it the right way. No cheating scandals. Players who don’t get into trouble (unlike the players under our previous choir boy head coach).

          I would’ve killed to have Nick Saban as our head coach.

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          • Derek

            He’s a scumbag and a liar.

            He processed kids out on a lie that they were medically disqualified.

            He made offers, accepted commitments and pulled the offers when another kid came along.

            He is abusive to staff at every level.

            He brought Taylor on campus with zero checks with either local law enforcement OR contact with our football staff. He told the public that Taylor wasn’t admitted because of football, but academics. Sure.

            Everyone and everything is expendable if it leads to his own team’s success.

            He is a soulless automaton.

            Fuck that guy very much.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              And you don’t think Kirby has done or will do any of that stuff? Someone is naive.

              Nick Saban has one job: win national titles. No one does it better, and he does it all within the rules.

              Yeah, like Belichick, does he ignore the “spirit” of the rules? Sure. Because the spirit of the rules don’t fucking matter.

              You say you don’t want Saban you say you don’t want to win. Period.

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              • Derek

                Stated like a true Nuremberg rally attendant.

                Doing the right thing in a loss is always better than doing the wrong thing in a win.

                The people who disagree, and live their lives like that, are scumbags.

                If you told me that if I wanted to be a winning college football coach the first thing i have to do is convince parents that I will treat their kids like my own and the second thing is to completely forget about the promises I made to parents, I’d either ignore the advice or the profession entirely.

                The problem in the world is that people focus on the ends.

                The means are all that really matters.

                The end is death and dust for each of us so it can’t be about that now can it?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  LOL.

                  Oh boy, the insane hyperbole with the tortured and twisted analogy with the added bonus of the insult of inferring I’m a Nazi.

                  Who had Derek in the Godwin’s Law Pool today?

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                • Derek

                  Deal with the substance Corch.

                  Why is winning at all costs a good thing? Why should I be impressed?

                  Deflection and smirking aren’t arguments. They’re evasive actions.

                  Why is bringing Jonathan Taylor to campus, lying about it, not doing due diligence and then saying, which he did, that his ONLY regret was that he had to let Taylor go before he got a chance to go to court, ok?

                  Tell us why those aren’t the actions of a scumbag.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  See, now you want to be taken seriously after all that, which is predictable for people who act like you act and say what you say. You’ve called me (and others) so many different names over the last year or so. Racist. Traitor. Now we can add the inference that I’m a Nazi to the list.

                  At this point, there’s no reason for me to be upset about it all, because it’s just who you are. These are your tactics. You believe this is a perfectly legitimate way to argue a point, and you do nothing but expose who you are in the process. I could get angry, like I did when you called me a racist without cause, but that would mean I would need to take you seriously. I’ve learned my lesson: You’re not a serious person. The thing is, even when you make a good point the fact of who you are defined by how you act completely undermines the point as you’ve done here. Shame on me for interacting. I should know better.

                  I’ll leave you to your own machinations. Thanks.

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                • Derek is the perpetual anti-Nazi master-debating champion, Corch. Now stop deflecting and deal with the arguments in good faith, you Hitler apologist!

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                • Derek

                  I was simply giving an example of people in history who went along enthusiastically and didn’t worry about the morality of the situation but only of their own interests.

                  I think people who see bad conduct and either approve of it or refuse to oppose it are more likely to find themselves in that Nuremberg crowd than people who couldn’t give a rats ass about the trappings of success and are more worried about the means of success.

                  While their are more examples than Taylor you can boil it down to this:

                  I’m glad my team didn’t to Athens a felon assault defendant with no background check of any kind, tell the public the academics admitted him and them when he choked out another helpless female our coach didn’t complain about due process of law.

                  I don’t want a coach who could care less about the people in the athens community or on the uga campus.

                  You take the other side but are unwilling to state why.

                  With that, why would I need to call you any names?

                  You’ve proven what you are.

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      • In 1989, no one knew what Steve Spurrier would become. He was building something at Duke of all places. I would have taken a flyer on him. He said a few years after being back in Hogtown that he would have taken the job to replace Dooley.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I call bullshit on not wanting Saban.

        There is no comparison to how he runs his team to how Corch ran his teams. None.

        No whiff of scandals. No players getting into insane trouble, or even the kind trouble Richt’s players got into here.

        All he does is win. That’s it. If you don’t want that, you’re smelling your own Georgia Way Farts.

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        • Derek

          See above.

          No whiff of scandal?

          Darius Philon?
          Jonathan Taylor?
          The “bump rule” which is really the saban rule.
          The four guys who committed two armed robberies one night on campus and the ring leader was caught with a gun two days prior and no one knew about it? You probably still don’t.

          The world knows about our guys jaywalking. They could find 32 dead kids kids under their starting qbs house and theyd call it an ancient Creek Indian burial mound if it made the news at all.

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  15. J Pate

    What if Shockley never got injured in 2005 prior to the GA FLA game

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  16. Dawg93

    Surprised no one has said this one – what if Edwards & Bobo don’t get hurt in 1995? Goff would have had a better season and not been fired, presumably. Is Donnan ever our coach? Would we have hired a better coach than him once Goff was finally let go (probably late 90s range) and thus Richt is never hired?

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    • Derek

      If edwards and bobo stay healthy we have a big year and have to beat uf at home to get to our first seccg. That happens and who knows how long ray stays?

      That 1995 team had the best OL we’ve ever had imho.

      Of course, nebraska beats the shit out of us regardless had we gotten that far.

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      • gurkhadawg

        Agree about that Nebraska team. Nobody was beating them. Maybe the best team of all time, and I’ve hated Nebraska since 1969. I know, it’s a long time to hold a grudge, but fuck Nebraska.

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  17. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    How about just from the last 20 years?

    What if DJ Shockley didn’t throw that INT returned for a TD in the 2002 Floriduh game? What if Terrence Edwards doesn’t drop that pass in the same game?

    What if we don’t give up that screen pass for a TD in the fourth quarter at LSU in 2003?

    What if we take a mediocre Tennessee seriously when we play them at home? (This kind of thing, not taking all teams seriously, is a string throughout Mark Richt’s time in Athens)

    What if Vince Dooley pays BVG what he’s worth as a Broyles Award winning DC instead of insulting him with a lowball contract offer and driving him away to the NFL?

    What if DJ Shockley doesn’t get hurt against Arkansas and thus could play in the 2005 Cocktail Party?

    What if Mark Richt brings an outside DC to bring in a fresh voice instead of elevating his best friend, Soft Willie, to DC?

    What if Stonehands Chandler catches the touchdown against Sakerlina in 2007? What if Soft Willie’s defense stops their run after run in the fourth quarter?

    What if Soft Willie doesn’t play the soft zone allowing Erik Ainge to pick us apart against Tennessee in 2007?

    What if we don’t embarrass ourselves at Sakerlina in 2012? Do we get a rematch vs. Bama in the BCS Title Game?

    What if our entire defense doesn’t fall for the most obvious play action pass ever in the fourth quarter of the 2012 SEC Title Game?

    What if Mark Richt allows Aaron Murray to spike the ball in the 2012 SEC Title Game?

    What if Mark Richt hires Lincoln Riley, not Brian Schottenheimer, to be our OC in 2015?

    What if Kirby/Chaney keeps the offensive pressure on Alabama in the 2017 National Title Game instead of choosing to turtle the entire offense, running Nick Chubb directly into the teeth of the Bama defense for less than one yard per carry, for the entire fourth quarter?

    What if Kirby/Chaney keeps the offensive pressure on Alabama in the 2018 SEC Title Game with Jake Fromm throwing the ball instead of choosing to turtle the offense by relying on the ineffective trio of RBs Swift / Herrien / Holyfield?

    What if Kirby doesn’t elevate Coley to OC and instead learns from his mistakes and stubbornness one year earlier, and hires someone from the outside to come in to modernize Georgia’s offense in 2019?

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  18. Scotty King

    O’Malley’s was still open on game days.

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  19. Wolfman

    What if the Braves had waited another day to win the pennant in ’91?

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  20. TN Dawg

    What if Kirby doesn’t run off Justin Fields….

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      He didn’t run off Fields, so this isn’t an actual what if.

      Don’t you understand the rules?

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  21. ASEF

    Conley pass: What if Gurley steps into Mosley rather just obstructing him, which probably prevents Mosley from tipping the pass?

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  22. Joshua Walker

    What if Terrance Edwards wouldn’t have dropped that pass in the Cocktail Party in 2002?

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  23. PTC DAWG

    Re the Conley pass/drop…

    We wouldn’t be sitting on 3 consecutive SEC East Titles, that I’m fairly sure of. 🙂

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  24. Illini84

    My old man, real salt that he was, used to say “you can’t look up a dead horses ass”>

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  25. Wolfman

    What if we had recruited Deshawn Watson just a bit earlier?

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  26. jlb43

    What if Conley had caught the pass, but someone pulled off Murray’s helmet. Face mask penalty. One more play. Burn Hutson Mason’s redshirt for the biggest play of his life?

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  27. Wolfman

    What if Tennessee hadn’t fumbled right before the half in 2003? Still one of my favorite in-person moments of all time.

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  28. siskey

    I read the Seth Emerson book last night. It is only 200 pages and does not require too much brainpower so I was able to get through it in a couple of hours. Many of the “What-Ifs” mentioned above are detailed in the text including the 2017 and 2018 Alabama games. It was hard to read about those games as I have not watched those games since we played them.
    My what-ifs are:
    1) Quincy doesn’t implode in 2000? That was a really talented team and played Florida tough until late in the 2d half
    2) Edwards makes the catch against Florida in 2002. Would UGA have been left out of the BCS? I think that we would have due to the national love OSU receives(d).
    3) The Defense doesn’t give up the play to LSU after we scored in 2003. Was it inevitable that Saban would win a national championship there?
    4) South Carolina in 2007 was mentioned above but had we won there would we have been more prepared when we went to Knoxville? Was Knoxville what the team needed to become what it became later in the season?
    There are many others that are more famous and heartbreaking but these are more counterfactuals that may have had similar ripples re the UGA program.

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    • Migraine Boy

      “Many of the “What-Ifs” mentioned above are detailed in the text including the 2017 and 2018 Alabama games”

      Cool sounds like a fun read !

      sticks bamboo shoots under fingernails

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    • Got Cowdog

      Seth’s book came up he other day in a post. Any juicy stuff in there? Don’t give it away but any inside info on Richt leaving, Pruitt, or JF’s (plural) leaving. What about the consortium pinky? Is there a hillbilly love scene?

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      • siskey

        Not to give anything away. He goes into somewhat more depth on the first 3 (but it is all such well trod ground that you have read it before) nothing on the pinky or any love scenes.

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  29. spur21

    What if Gurley didn’t sell his autograph.

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  30. mddawg

    Dammit Senator, I was having a good day…

    I’m tempted to sift through the previous similar posts on this topic, so I could just lazily copy my same comments here. As always, I present the 2011 SEC CG as the bigger what if scenario, if only for it’s implications on the national football landscape beyond just UGA. UGA’s defense owned LSU for a half, and our offense was as aggressive as any Georgia fan could’ve hoped for, just too many dropped passes and missed opportunities. If we win that game, LSU doesn’t play in the all-SEC national title game, and in my opinion the CFP playoff maybe gets delayed another year or two.

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  31. 86bone

    What if……my Aunt had balls

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  32. stoopnagle

    What if Richt told Aaron to spike the ball?
    What if Dominick Sanders doesn’t bite? or Parrish wasn’t playing soft?

    Man, Fuck Bama.

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  33. charlottedawg

    In regards to 2012, what if Alex ogletree hadn’t blocked the field goal? then the story is the bajillion rushing yards bama put up in the second half. The fact of the matter is that alabama was by far the better team that day and the only reason we were even in a position to win was due to some bounces going our way and the team playing above its talent level. Also keep in mind the only ranked team we had beaten up until the capital one bowl was florida so who knows if we’d have found some way to lose to Notre Dame especially with Jon jenkins suspended.

    To me the bigger what if is if Roquan tackles Tua (or a penalty gets fucking called on Roquan getting tackled from behind!!!!!) on 3rd and long of the second possession of the second half of the national championship game in 2017. Because in that case it’s bamas second three and out to open the half. Instead bama converts third down leading to a touchdown. Sigh….

    2017 was a legit national championship contender, 2012 was not

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    • The Roquan issue is real. Two straight 3 and outs … Tua probably goes back to the bench. Georgia wins the national title. Tua ends up as a transfer in the vein of Justin Fields.

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    • CB

      You mean Deandre Walker, Davin Bellamy and Trent Thompson? They all had a free shot at Tua. Roquan and Ledbetter both got walled off in the aftermath.

      As for your 2012 comments. They may be fair, but average teams win titles from time to time, see LSU 2003 and 2007. What if future All Pro linebacker ALEC Ogletree (Alex was his less talented brother, and Cornelius Washington blocked the kick) didn’t run a blocked FG back isn’t a great argument. Big time players make big time plays in big time games.

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  34. Texas Dawg

    This game is fine to play when we are discussing other teams. When we start playing what if with UGA over the last couple of decades I get nauseated. Thinking about how very very close we have been on multiple occasions to winning it all (Multiple NC), only to be the bridesmaid once again, makes me want to heave. Excuse me while I go take a Zofran and put a cold compress on my forehead.

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  35. Russ

    What if the Herbie rule hadn’t been invented in 2007? We go from 4 to 2 that last weekend and go on to destroy aOSU in the BCS Championship in New Orleans.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      I know Georgia fans love this train of thought, especially considering Herbstreit threw a fit when the BCS didn’t give us a tOSU vs. Michigan rematch in 2006, but there was no way the BCS Computers and Polls put us into the BCS Title game over a Conference Champion LSU.

      The numbers just wouldn’t have worked out that way. Herbie is a target because he’s a talking head, but the computers and the polls both wouldn’t have done it. We weren’t Bama in 2011. We lost to the second worst SEC team AT HOME and then were blown out on the road to a mediocre Tennessee team.

      Let’s stop pretending, guys.

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      • charlottedawg

        Not to mention USC had just as much of if not a better argument for playing in the NC game than we did. Also given Pete Carroll’s out of conference record he probably would have destroyed ohio state and beaten LSU. Also why is it automatically assumed georgia would have beaten LSU in the seccg?

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  36. ApalachDawg aux Bruxelles

    …the rain soaked timeout in the Gator Bowl isn’t called and i get to see the Dawgs win as a student against the booger eaters

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  37. Illini84

    What is Craig Swoope, Illini corner, doesn’t try to run Neuheisel’s interception out of the end zone and doesn’t fumble giving UCLA the rock on the goal line and opening the flood gates in the 84 Rose Bowl (10 to 9 game day)?

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    • Illini84

      Or if Bama defensive back Jeremiah Castille doesn’t pick Tony Eason three times and, in Bear’s last game despite giving up 444 total offensive yards from Illinois, 423 passing yards by Eason, Alabama won the game 21–15.

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  38. 79dawg

    Don’t think I can handle this thread and Twertzog Day (Saturday) in the same week, so I think I’ll skip the thread…

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    • Illini84

      Aguirre, the Wrath of God !

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      • Illini84

        ” Despite their collaborations, Herzog had threatened, on occasion, to murder Kinski. In one incident, Kinski was said to have been saved by his dog who attacked Herzog as he crept up to supposedly burn down the actor’s house.[22] Herzog has refused to comment on his numerous other plans to kill Kinski. However, he did pull a gun on Kinski on the set of Aguirre, the Wrath of God, after the actor threatened to walk off the set.”

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  39. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    Officials practicing in Tuscaloosa:
    https://www.gocomics.com/speedbump/2020/09/02

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  40. Holiday Inn Bagman

    All the Georgia ones have been covered so I’ll go with this…

    What if Mike Price never went to that strip club in Pensacola?

    The universe is now altered and who knows where Nick Saban is but it’s probably not Bama.

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    • Derek

      Price may not have lasted longer any than Shula did had he stayed sober and faithful.

      We’ll never know.

      Didn’t seem a good fit at the time, but bama was desperate after Francione walked.

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  41. Tom Arnold

    what if……..tyler simmons had been “on-sides”

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  42. GruvenDawg

    Good lord Senator….Please never ask this question again….Some of these don’t need to be revisited for another 40 years.

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  43. GruvenDawg

    WTF???!!!…What if Jamie Newman decides not to lead us to the promised land this year….

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  44. DawgFlan

    Damn, I’d rather read through 130 comments on COVID-19 stats or political BS.

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  45. Derek

    This thread was obviously bad juju.

    We awakened the curse and it bit us in the ass again.

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