“But, hopefully, people can respect our young men and what they believe in…”

You may say Dabo Swinney’s a dreamer

Clemson football players attempted to promote unity and acceptance.

It had the opposite effect on some fans.

The Tigers for Saturday night’s season-opener at Wake Forest wore helmet decals that read “Love,” “Equality,” “Black Lives Matter” and “Put a Stop to Racism.” The team’s official Twitter page, @ClemsonFB, put out a photo showing all for with the words “Playing with a purpose.”

And it created quite a division on the social media platform, plenty of praise but also things like this:

“Love I can support. BLM? No.”

“Done with Clemson football. This is (expletive deleted).”

“Never watching again. Selling all my Clemson merch and donating it to the local PD. You can have the Marxism and lose a fan.”

Just win, baby.  That’ll take care of the dissent.

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35 responses to ““But, hopefully, people can respect our young men and what they believe in…”

  1. Illini84

    What a shock! None of that around here.

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  2. Granthams Replacement

    I work with 2 former Clemson athletes from the 70s. Both were upset with the BLM stickers.

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  3. gurkhadawg

    This should have been tomorrow’s playpen.

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    • RangerRuss

      I get along with my gatorlib fishing buddies only because we skirt divisive political conversation. They’re also reasonably sure I’ll snap kick’em in the testicles and chunk ’em in the Gulf of Mexico if they don’t STFU.

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  4. The BLM organization has become so entwined with the blm movement, that I think it is counter-productive. It gives some people an out by saying they disagree with the organization’s platform, so they can disengage. It gives others the chance to target those brave enough to say why they disagree with the platform.

    It muddies the message that I think many would actually agree with (especially those that hold the constitution near to their hearts): the police should stop killing people. They have become executioners before a trial (which is unconstitutional). I wish the message of equality and truly equal protection under the law was represented by a different acronym and the focus could be on actual reform instead of whether the movement is as marxist and anti-religion as the organization.

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    • ASEF

      They demonized MLK largely along the same lines.

      They’d find any excuse to express disgust with any effort to confront race issues. It’s how they roll.

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      • Tony BarnFart

        I agree with what most of CPAdawg says, but not you. Although I would object to the “they have become executioners.” It’s something like 9 unarmed people killed by police in 2019 across the nation. That is by definition not an existential crisis.

        I really hope this thread doesn’t get shut down, but while it’s still open I have to ask if you are OK with one of the worst domestic terrorists in US history being on Board of Directors of the back office logistics and fundraising company for BLM ? Susan Rosenberg– a violent May 19 anarchist terrorist. Probably committed crimes worthy of the death penalty for treason.

        But I guess we can’t ask questions. Every nasty revolution in world history has touched off in some part because some enterprising individuals use 3rd rail topics in the locale to set in motion something far more sinister.

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        • DawgFlan

          For the record, I wish that saying black lives matter is something everyone could support, and I find it distracting and frustrating that there is some organization out there that has co-opted the phrase. I support the statement that eating whole foods is important, even if I don’t buy my groceries at Whole Foods. And it shouldn’t matter that Whole Foods has a pastry chef that did time for some nasty shit.

          But it is even more frustrating when people throw numbers and names out like they’ve done all the open-minded research necessary to come to an unbiased conclusions, but you dig an inch deep and find out it is just regurgitated, false talking points. You are proving ASEF’s comment true that people will cling to anything in order to discredit or ignore.

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  5. sniffer

    I see that “put a stop to racism” was one of the sticker messages. I am all for it. What I’m wondering is how do you do it? What does “put a stop” mean? I would love to hear how that’s done.
    As crappy as this comment sounds, I am not being an ass. I am honestly asking for solutions.

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    • dawgman3000

      It’s a heart condition man and all of the legislation in the can’t fix it. All we can do is work on ourselves individually at becoming a better person rather than work overtime trying to fix others.

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    • Down Island Way

      Current definition/usage of the “r” word is overrated…

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    • Spell Dawg

      It starts with teaching our children all this country has done over the years to systematically keep blacks down, from governmental policies/regulations to real estate practices that kept blacks out of white neighborhoods. Middle School would be a good place to start, take a quarter/semester/whatever to explore how racism manifests itself and identify the wrongs in the past. Reinforce it with another mandatory class in High School.

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      • I think you’re underestimating the education people are already getting. In any random movie or tv show, the villain is more likely to be the white businessman than the poor black man. School history already teaches that white people are the evil oppressors at any time throughout history.

        The riots are primarily led by young, educated white people. I think we’re doing pretty well.

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        • Spell Dawg

          What?!? How do you conflate Movie/TV shows with American history and compulsory education? Columbus finally getting called out for what he did doesn’t let America off the hook. I struggle to understand the current white-victim sentiment. There are countless people alive today who were forced to sit in the “Colored Only” section; countless people who are still today seen as automatic suspects, cutoff from opportunities or otherwise made to feel inferior solely for the color of their skin. To quote Chris Rock, if white people are losing, who’s winning???

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          • The most important thing in history isn’t facts. It’s the narrative.

            If you honestly think that the narrative for the last few decades hasn’t been that white people are the oppressors, you haven’t been paying attention.

            And the narrative isn’t confined to history textbooks and critical race theory lectures in college. It expresses itself throughout culture. In music and art and politics and everywhere.

            Yes, racism existed in the past. And yes, there are a few racists today. But would you advise a black person to lie about his race when applying to college, or for employment, so he can participate in the “white privilege”?

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            • classiccitycanine

              Absolutely he should lie. There’s research showing that “black” names on a resume that is otherwise equal to a resume with a “white name” get fewer callbacks. The narrative of white supremacy is still deeply embedded in our society’s ways despite the shift in the way we talk about these issues in the past few decades.

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    • Tribalism is in our DNA, so in a practical sense, it is impossible to “put a stop to [the idea of] racism.” What we can do is change policies and practices that 1) are unfair and 2)target and affect one group disparately. Part of getting to that step (where people are willing to examine laws, policies, procedures, etc. with a motivation for change) is acknowledging that some of the laws/policies/procedures that sound fair on their face were actually implemented with racist intent to begin with… holdovers from a time where blatant, open racism was a rather large part of American culture (Segregationists in Congress, Japanese internment camps, Jim Crow laws, the list goes on)

      I think what can actually make a difference are people willing to listen and engage in rational discussions with empathy. That’s asking a lot in 2020, but it is the only way for a better tomorrow.

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      • Derek

        I think you can be “tribal” without promoting superiority or inferiority. That’s the first battle and one not yet won.

        But even where you beat that nefariousness back, it comes roaring out when people feel economically at risk and there are people who are willing to exploit economic fear for the sake of their own power.

        Ultimately, we’re either going to have to be:

        Beige
        Relatively egalitarian in terms of outcomes across the racial spectrum.

        The real question is whether democracy survives long enough for that to occur or we’re corralled back into our respective tribes under the thumb of autocrats in the name of safety, purity, nationalism or some other nonsense.

        We’re getting to an “inflection point” on that I’m afraid.

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  6. Got Cowdog

    My old man and I typically steer clear of current events in our conversations, but we ended up talking about the BLM movement and some of the things he saw growing up in rural Louisiana through the 60’s. He told the story:
    His father worked for the USDA, working with the farmers in the area. (NE Louisiana, SE Arkansas, Mississippi, Western Tennessee. Delta country in the mid 60’s and that should tell you all you need to know) Grandaddy had a job opening and the USDA sent a black man for the position. Got Sr.’s baseball coach showed up with some of the local klukkers and told my Grandfather that if he didn’t fire the guy they would burn a cross in the front yard. Got Sr. said Got Sr.Sr. very calmly, in front of my Dad, my uncle, and the klukkers, told the baseball coach he wasn’t firing anyone and if Coach wanted to burn a cross in the yard? He’d be waiting on the front porch with his shotgun and would kill the baseball coach first, then anybody else that showed up.. Nobody burned any crosses. Nobody in that little town doubted that Grandaddy would do what he said.
    I’m not making him out to be some sort of social justice hero, he was far from that. But you damn sure weren’t going to tell him what to do.

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