Todd, meet manball.

Ah, shit, Kirby.

Smart indicated Georgia’s offense, which ranked sixth in the SEC, might work to tone things down a bit moving forward.

“We can’t get in a boat race where we’re trying to outscore people,” Smart said. “We have to play our brand of football and help Stetson (Bennett) with the people around him, is probably the No. 1 thing.”

He’s playing a team this week that Mizzou held to 145 yards of total offense, so Georgia can dog paddle instead of boat racing and win comfortably.  But does anybody besides Smart think this team can beat Alabama without being able to keep up with them in scoring?

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87 responses to “Todd, meet manball.

  1. jdawg108

    Game plan: hope all of Bama’s top threats get injured.

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  2. Derek

    Does anybody think we can get in a boat race with alabama and win it?

    The people who think we need to score 50 to beat alabama may well be right.

    One guy who knows there’s no way in hell we’re scoring 50 vs. Alabama is the head coach at Georgia.

    If we’re beating them its because we keep them under 35. If we can’t, we’re not.

    One way to do that is limit their possessions by rtdb and being far more efficient in the passing game.

    I’d say we should spend the next 6 games trying to become a team that has a chance to win in Atlanta.

    What would be dumb as fuck is trying to turn Stetson (or qb to be named later) into 40 pass per game qb. With that strategy we’d get to watch someone else play alabama.

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    • rigger92

      It’s not worth much, but I have always agreed with you on this point. Passing efficiency is the one thing that we have a realistic shot at improving over last year, and, combine that with execution in the run game, what’s not to like? We don’t have a Fields type QB, period.

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    • If we’re beating them its because we keep them under 35.

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but that would mean Georgia would have to score 35 to win. When’s the last time UGA scored 35 on a Saban defense?

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      • rigger92

        Not to get in between you two to much, but, I think Monken is the variable in this equation. I would think we could score 35 on them if we can get our machine running more smoothly under Monk

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        • I love Monken. I just wish Kirby loved him as much as I do.

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          • Derek

            I think the statements the hc are making have more to do with where we are at the qb position than a lack of faith in the oc.

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            • Greg

              Or he knows the strengths of this team and is game planning this way.

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            • I tend to agree with you on that. Ironically, I still think Monken needs the chance to work with Bennett to make him better in the passing game. Limiting him to less than 20 passes isn’t the optimal way to go about that, though.

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            • Castleberry

              ^this – I think we’re gonna get there. We don’t have the horses right now to run the type of offense we’ll ultimately have under Monken. So, I’m optimistic this is a strategy based on current personnel vs. “manball can only be failed”.

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          • dawg100

            Well, at least understood that “where we’re trying to outscore people,” is the exact opposite of what wins games. You must outscore people! However you do that doesn’t matter, but 100% of winning teams outscored the opponent. Period.

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      • Derek

        You may be right that we can’t even realistically expect get to 36. Which means we need even more ball control, not less.

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        • What they really need is the ability to stop Alabama’s offense from going over the top against the secondary.

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          • Derek

            I don’t disagree. The flaw in the saban/smart defense is that if their wrs and qb can consistently beat your corners, you’re fucked. Of course, its a flaw that few can exploit so it works most of the time. When it doesn’t, it ain’t pretty.

            Fortunately they’re down one of the guys that could beat us consistently. If we can take Smith away next time???

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          • Since Alabama’s Oline is never called for holding this is almost an impossible task. Either you blitz to create pressure or sit back and Jones picks us apart. Unfortunately for us the hook around the neck of Ojulari and Nolan Smith has become a legal blocking technique

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        • jdawg108

          We scored 24 in the first half with points left on the board. We should be able to put up 40

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          • Derek

            Maybe but we need to get there being balanced not chuck-n-duck.

            Once they took the run away simply by being ahead with not a lot of time, we got progressively less effective throwing it.

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            • jdawg108

              That totally makes sense. Calm methodical marches rather than Stetson trying to win it on one throw. Which is interesting, because that’s instinct, and can *NSYNC be coached? (and yes, I purposefully left the auto correct in.)

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      • jgssgj

        The stats strongly suggest that nobody can reasonably expect to keep Bama under 35 in 2020.

        Bama scored as few as 35 pts. once last season, in its bowl game vs. Michigan.

        Any HC playing Bama, whose offense has averaged 46.4 ppg. the past 2 and 1/2 seasons, knows his team can’t give up 46 points and reasonably expect to win. He also knows his team can’t expect to hold Bama to 16 points, as Clemson did in the 2018-19 season’s nat’l title game. Hell, Bama scored 26 against the Dawgs in ’17 after scoring 0 in the first half.

        Bama lost two games last season in which it scored an avg. of 43 ppg. and allowed its opponents to score an average of 47 ppg.

        So Kirby has to expect to score at least 44. If by some miracle you hold Bama to 40, you’d better have 41. We’ve yet to score more than 28.

        Whichever players on offense give the Dawgs the best chance of scoring in the 40’s, have to play. That means a QB change and a willingness to let Monken do this thing all game long. Dawgs have to get in the habit of scoring at least 40 points every damn game. (Said the armchair HC.)

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    • Bulldawg Bill

      OK, So just how does a QB become a 40 PPG QB?????

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  3. I think we need to work on the offense that Monken was brought in to install rather than trying to fit the new puzzle pieces into the old frame. If Monken believes Kirby isn’t serious about changing, he’s going to be gone in December/January. That would be a canary in the coal mine moment entering Kirby’s 6th season.

    On the offense question, it ain’t the plays being called. It’s the talent and decision making of the current guy taking the snaps. Bennett is a great story no doubt about it, but there’s a reason he started the season 3rd or 4th on whatever depth chart existed.

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    • Does anyone really think SBIV would have been the first off the bench in Fayetteville if Daniels had been cleared to play?

      Kirby has gone with the “hot hand.” Now that the hand has cooled, it’s time to have a real QB competition for who can help the team win now while getting ready for the future.

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      • jgssgj

        Disturbing, though, that SBIV was ever/is still the guy. If Mac got hurt/sick and couldn’t play, Saban’s QB would be a former Gatorade player of the year. Newman left. Dean was a disaster. SBIV clearly won’t get us past Bama. That leaves Daniels and Beck. The choice seems pretty clear.

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  4. PTC DAWG

    I have no doubt we went away from the run game too early vs Bama…

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  5. Greg

    Never in a million years did I think the dawgs would beat Auburn in a rematch a few years ago….but did.

    Bama looked invincible a year ago putting up all kind of offensive numbers…..and then they didn’t, they got beat.

    Can we beat them??…..yes!

    Thinks we can do it without getting into a “boat race” also. There were a lot of 50/50 balls that their receivers just beat us on. That can change, so can turnovers…..and Bennett can get better imo, if he is the starter. Defense can play better too.

    “Any given Saturday”…..I BELIEVE!!

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    • Bama looked invincible a year ago putting up all kind of offensive numbers…..and then they didn’t, they got beat.

      They scored 45 and 41 in their two losses last year, so what are you talking about?

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      • Greg

        As in getting “beat”. Long season, people get injured, some have to sit. Defense can play better…and I suspect they will if given the chance.

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        • Blah, blah, blah… they still cracked forty points, something a Smart-coached team has yet to do against ‘Bama.

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          • Greg

            Defense is better than a year ago imo, more experienced and probably a little faster. It will be tough for Bama to put that many points on the board again.

            Don’t see or believe they will put up another 40 plus points. Don’t believe the talent gap is that big between the two.

            A lot of those 50/50 balls could have gone either way. A lot of people open that were missed.

            Believe the Dawgs can put 60 minutes together to beat them. I like their chances.

            And you know what, I believe they BELIEVE also. That ‘D ain’t gonna roll over, they are prideful too.

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  6. Granthams Replacement

    Did anyone notice the offense scored 24 in a half against bama? Maintain consistency for 60 min and they are almost at 50. In 6-7 weeks the offense will be clicking whomever the QB.

    With the list of Waddle the defensive execution focuses on 2 1st round draft picks instead of 3 spread over 53 yards.

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  7. theotherdoug

    People need to accept that if Stetson is our best option at QB, then we’re playin’ ManBall this season.

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  8. Charles Jackson

    We have a very good TEAM, one that is capable of winning it all, with Stet at QB. Bama made some key plays at key moments. Plays that could have gone either way. We will get another shot and we will win. Everyone will realize this win we shut down the Gators: 38 -13.

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  9. elbertadawg

    This is so disturbing. With our talent no way we should lose before Atlanta. Now Kirby wants to crawl in a hole and not develop an offense that can compete with the elite. Come on ! Being East champs is nice but I’m interested in bigger prizes. No way we can compete consistently at the highest level without change. Bama has,OSU AND FIELDS look awfully good and Clemson is going to score. Kirby needs to get his arrogant head out of his ass and realize what is evident. You have 5 games to do it.

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  10. My god. If Kirby really wants to do this then I see Monken dipping out like every other offensive staff member Kirby has ever had.

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  11. David K

    It would be nice to have a running game that broke big runs occasionally.

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  12. Ace Harris

    Obviously Bamas coaches do a better job coaching and they damn sure do a better job at halftime with their adjustments. I remember when Kirby was at Alabama they were having problems with their secondary and Saban personally took over either the corners or safeties and coached them himself. If you watch Kirby on the sidelines even when the offense is on the field he is pointing, gesturing and hollering, etc. He ain’t going to let it go folks.What kind of stupid analogy is it to compare a football game to a boat race? His rhetorical skills are sorely lacking he can say some really stupid things!!!

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  13. UGADawgGuy

    So disappointing.

    Kirby is digging himself a deep, inescapable legacy.

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  14. FlyingPeakDawg

    Kirby uses offense to protect and support his defense. So did Saban, but he changed. Look at Dabo…stout D but finds a dynamic QB and tells him to score and score some more. Kirby laments a boat race that wears out his D and stresses his offense. If he built an offense that can score 50 he would have no worries. Oddly, the 2017 offense could do that, and there’s plenty of talent on this 2020 squad to do it too. But as been discussed ad nauseam here, the loss of Fromm, Neumann and Daniels not being ready has left him his only viable alternative…offense as an extension of the D. I actually expect fewer deep balls and SB hitting those open short passes plus more running. That fits the bill for now. I think we’ll see more of a flying circus next year with a dynamic QB in place…assuming we have one.

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  15. benco04

    Don’t quite understand the defeatist attitude among prognosticators re: Georgia’s offense. Kirby has been saying the same thing for years. Explosive plays. We want explosive plays. Explosive runs, explosive passes.

    For reasons related to not having three current NFL
    RB’s, the explosive runs have diminished. That’s the biggest difference between 2017 and now.

    Fast forward to the present and I see more open receivers than we’ve had in years at UGA. Contested catches along the sideline were a way of life for Chaney and Fromm. Thank goodness Monken has schemed away from that.

    In my view, we were two or three better decisions by Stetson from being within a single digits of Bama well into the fourth quarter. The offense wasn’t horrible. Stetson was no good for two drives and then, poof, we were out of it. Everyone needs to get real.

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    • “Stetson was no good for two drives and then, poof, we were out of it.”

      The problem is against elite offenses you can’t afford to have a couple of possessions that don’t end in kicks or points. Just like when two big servers play on the grass at Wimbledon, the difference in winning and losing becomes how many service breaks you get. When we were getting service breaks in the first 3 quarters, we were inconsistent in cashing them in. When Bama broke serve and then got the 2 turnovers, it was over.

      You can’t win today purely on defense. You have to score when the opportunity presents itself and you can’t stop until the game is well in hand. In the Smart era, we are 1-7 when the opponent scores 30 or more. Kirby has yet to unlock the formula for winning when your defense is having trouble.

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      • That stat is frightening.

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      • benco04

        Well, except for that whole Rose Bowl thing. And you may say it was a one-off, to comeback against an elite offensive team by running the ball. I say it was indicative of what Kirby says over and over, he wants explosiveness no matter what the means.

        He just hasn’t had it since ‘17.

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        • My point is that he is 1-7 when his defense gives up more than 30. If you’re going to depend on multiple 50+ yard runs to beat elite defenses, you’re not going to win those games consistently. If Oklahoma had any defense, we don’t win that game, period.

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          • benco04

            If we’re going to be real, Georgia depended on cracking long runs against many opponents in 2017 no more or less than Bama relied on “low percentage” passes against us last week.

            People need to stop looking at what Bama is doing with the long ball as something that just happens when you focus on it.

            I’m with Kirby on this one. Hindsight of last weeks’ Bama game doesn’t indicate an offensive shortcoming for us (other than QB play) or a defensive shortcoming. It’s possible to hit blackjacks every tenth hand while betting big and lose every other hand and still take money from the house. That’s what Bama did. PFF among other (linked here by the Senator) said just that.

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  16. Jim Cook

    Daniels has been medically cleared for weeks. The highlights from Southern California show him throwing multiple accurate (beautiful) deep balls for touchdowns. Daniels also scrambles quiet well.
    I love the Stetson story, but he can’t throw an accurate deep ball to save his life while Daniels, the quarterback who can sits on the bench watching.

    Is there something I’m missing?

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  17. Tony BarnFart

    Did y’all know we have 6 teams NOT named Alabama to play (and hopefully beat) before we can play Alabama again ?

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  18. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Good Lord. It’s like the man is allergic to learning a single fucking lesson in life.

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  19. Previously Paul

    So we’re going back to 2019? Barely win games we should win easily and then get our asses kicked in the SECC? Will Monken stay if that’s the case? Really disappointed to hear Kirby talk this way. I thought we’d turned a corner when we hired Monken. Even Saban says you can’t win a championship with a defense first team.

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    • Derek

      Everyone says that you can be explosive with Stetson. Everyone….

      He just threw it to the other team so much to test our resolve to keep chucking it!

      We CAN be lsu without burrow or jefferson. Who couldn’t?

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    • rigger92

      Newman screwed us, and hard. Not sure what to say about Daniels, he should have been QB2 or starting by now. Not sure what happened with Mathis. Beck must be too slow/game too fast for him yet.

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  20. siskey

    I think Kirby will settle on something halfway in-between manball and letting the offense lose. I don’t think he wants to win a “certain” way per se but I do think that he believes the team is good enough to win with the defense and get to Atlanta. I like SB4 and believe he must be our best QB or someone else would be playing. Kirby doesn’t strike me as someone who is starting a lesser player for the hell of it or because he owes it to him. If that is true then we are more limited offensively than we would be with a top tier QB but not necessarily so limited that we are gonna become a Power I team that punts on third down. Our WRs need to be better at catching contested balls and our RBs need to help by playing to their abilities. If these two things happen then SB4 will get at least one more chance at Bama and maybe we can play 60 minutes against them this time. Go Dawgs!

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  21. CB

    No, but when you look at how well we were running it and how poorly Bennett played in the second half I can see how Kirby would want to consider playing ball control. Again, we definitely have a better QB option and the bye week to prep them. Maybe Kirby is just bluffing.

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