The real crisis facing college football

Folks, I think we need to face up to it.  College football has a problem:  its pundits are bored out of their collective freakin’ minds.

It is same old, same old. Alabama is making its sixth appearance in the seven-year existence of the playoff. Clemson is doing the same, earning a sixth straight berth. Ohio State is in for the fourth time and second straight. Those three have won five of the six CFP championships, with only a Joe Burrow supernova season preventing it from being six-for-six…

If ever there were a season to give a good outlier team its chance, and to demonstrate that the sport is more than just a cartel run by the super-rich, this was the season and Cincinnati was the team.

Will no one think of the Pat Fordes of the world?  Here they are here now; entertain them.

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56 responses to “The real crisis facing college football

  1. PTC DAWG

    IF Cincy deserved a shot, they should smoke UGA, we shall see.

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    • whybotherdude

      If they smoke UGA 55-0, that would say they deserve a shot but at that point it would be to late to get the shot. Everyone argued ND or TAMU which had already been beat by one of the teams in the playoff, why not give them a shot instead of another retread?

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  2. debbybalcer

    So they want the playoff not to be for the best teams but for everyone to get a chance🤦🏼‍♀️, the is like wanting the academic awards to go to other students because the smartest kids always earn them. The teams at the top have earned their way there. If someone else wants to be there earn it.

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    • spur21

      But everyone deserves a trophy – don’t you know.

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      • Illini84

        Here’s my problem with this. I spent 20 years running municipal recreation programs and this “everybody gets a trophy” came from an effort to structure sports for pre-adolescents to be focused on teaching the fundamentals as opposed to who wins or loses a game. It was a constant battle, especially with parents who lived vicariously through their kids. The participation trophy was just that, encourage all the kids to play to the best of their ability and cultivate a love for the sport(s). As quick as everyone to use the “trophy” charge is that to bemoan the fact that fewer kids are playing ball at all. I know there are many other things for kids to do (like computer games). I never thought 5 and 6 year olds should be playing in organized sports in the first place but fighting that is a losing battle. When I was a kid we took a ball, bats and gloves and played without parents or officials, just play.

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        • Bay Area Dawg

          It’s a different time. I grew up the same way, but I did not have tablets, the internet, 300+ channels to choose from and 100+ movies to watch whenever I want. I haven’t even bought a gaming system yet for my kids but add that to the list as well.

          I push my kids into every sport and am letting them choose which they want to focus on or play them all if they want (like I did). I have though bred competition in my kids from birth and like that they love to win and hate to lose. You need to deal with losing. You’re going to lose a lot in life.

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          • Illini84

            Are they all the same? Are any of your kids more or less competitive than others? Some people (kids) are intrinsically motivated and some are extrinsically motivated and one key to coaching is to know which require which kind. To me the key is when you say you push (encourage?) them to play every sport and then let them decide.

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            • Bay Area Dawg

              I see your point and yes, each of mine are a little different and I’ve had to alter my approach to motivate each one. They are all competitive my oldest just wants to be the best at everything and my middle wants to beat the oldest and the youngest just tries to keep u[ with those two.

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    • gurkhadawg

      Many areas of society are going that way Debby. Part 1 of the National Medical Boards has gone from a numerical score to pass/fail. This score has been used to objectively compare medical students across the country. But we can’t have the smartest, hardest working students getting the best residency spots can we? That’s outrageous and unfair! We must consider “other” factors. This is probably better suited for the playpen, so I won’t continue.

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  3. argondawg

    It’s hard to see how a sport that pretty much sends the exact same teams over and over again to the playoffs doesn’t begin to see decline. If your a fan of the other 115+ programs your shot at making this is pretty much zero except for occasional blip on the radar. Free agency which I support is just gonna give more to the haves. It’s like they have literally painted themselves into a larger playoff pool for survival. It’s gonna happen and it will be soon. Maybe I have a skewed view because we are literally one of the teams right on the edge of getting in. I could actually give a shit less who wins it this year. I’m tired of looking at these same teams going at it. I’m rambling I know but damn that single malt last night Scrambled the noodle.

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  4. Fordes point…give Cincy a shot so we can see how far behind Go5 teams are to Bama and Clemson. Here’s a thought…push for these games to happen during the regular season then you won’t be left wondering come playoff selection time. Cincy’s schedule is as soft as Clemson’s most years.

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  5. The committee had a chance to punish the B1G for changing their rules midstream but didn’t.

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    • Down Island Way

      Should the committee have seen clear to launch Cincinnati into uncharted ass whippings, this was as best opportunity as any, the bammers would obliged no questioned asked…nd, a&m not deserving of another ass whipping…

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      • Totally agree. The problem was you had 1-loss ND who had beaten 1-loss Clemson earlier in the year, and the committee wasn’t going to put Cincinnati in over ND or put them at the 3 seed with ND at 4 to prevent Clemson-ND round 3. The committee did do the right thing with A&M after the thrashing they took from Bama. The real problem was the committee wasn’t going to leave out Ohio State and put Cincinnati in.

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        • Down Island Way

          Still, another chance for the committee to stand and say to the bigtosuconference that your record doesn’t meet out criteria (WETF that is), also understanding it’s Mickey’s $y$tem…

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          • Bay Area Dawg

            The only to make the “committee” truly work is to have a totally independent committee of every school, conference and network involved in the CFP. Also, stop releasing rankings every week. Just pick the top 4 at the end of the season period.

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            • I agree that the committee should meet once to pick the top 4 and then go home. Go back to letting the non-playoff (including the NY6) bowl games select the teams they want to invite instead of what we have now.

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            • armydawg

              I agree. When does UGA get a seat at the table? All our rivals have been there & stuck it up our ass. Maybe our new AD will get a chance. I’m just glad Mcgoofus wasn’t there. He’d do us more harm than anyone.

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        • Teacher Martin

          Ohio State should not be in the playoffs. Pure and simple.

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  6. Teacher Martin

    I wish Cincinnati was in it and UGA did not have to play them. It’s going to be a bad look for UGA I’m afraid.

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  7. classiccitycanine

    I’m bored of the same teams getting in most years too. I won’t be tuning in to the semifinals. It’s one of many reasons I think we should abandon a playoff in favor of a BCS or bowl-based system.

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    • Everyone conveniently forgets that Jim Delany said the B1G would only go along with a playoff if a committee selected the teams. He knew his representative on the committee was never going to “check his hat at the door.” The only reason anOSU didn’t get in over Bama in 2017 was that the Suckeyes lost 2 regular season games. That was a bridge too far for the committee to select one blue blood over another.

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    • James A Mercer Jr

      And this will affect whom??? It’s still a free country and you can watch whomever you please..just don’t think it’ll affect anyone or any team. Be honest, you’ll not let those games go by..ha!

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      • classiccitycanine

        I’m dead serious. I have zero intention of watching those games just like I watch very few bowl games. The only one I would tune in for is if ND is up in the 4th Quarter.

        This whole thing is for TV eyeballs right? Well, I’m voting with my eyeballs and choosing not to watch. If enough people do that, things will change (for better or worse). If you’re entertained, then by all means, watch. I’m not, so I will choose to do other things with that time.

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  8. junkyardawg41

    I thinks the real point is that the media talent is doing anything they can to stay relevant and protect their paycheck (See the Athletic for an example of consolidation). The fact is media talent wants change and drama because it sells —- not to protect or enhance the game.

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  9. Jim Cook

    Because of covid, with revenue down and reduced games you had a window of opportunity to expand the playoff even if it was only one year. A perfect year to experiment at the least.

    The powers that run the system failed with flying colors.

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  10. dawgman3000

    I don’t have a problem with the playoff, although it could be tweaked for improvement. IMO, the playoff should include every power 5 conference champ and the highest ranked group of 5 team. By doing it that way, you eliminate certain conferences whining about their team being left out and teams like UCF and Cincinnati get their shot at the big boys.

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    • dawgman3000

      Also, that eliminates 2 teams from the same conference getting in. I just think it would keep college football fans around the country engaged little more if all of the conferences had a team in it.

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      • The #1 and #2 SEC teams are likely in the top 8 of the nation though.

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        • Munsoning

          Yes, and more than just two SEC teams, which will mean hearing the Kanells of the CFB world lobbying ad nauseam for the inclusion of, say, an undeserving North Carolina team instead of, say, a deserving TAMU team once the field expands to 8. So we have that to look forward to.

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    • rigger92

      Yeah, but really, do you really think a G5 conference champ should be in a playoff over a 1 loss SEC runner up? They HAVE to admit it and call the whole thing an Invitational.

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    • Bay Area Dawg

      I said this early this week the easiest format is all Power 5 Conference Champs get in, highest ranked Group of Five gets in and then you have two at-large bids. This would mean going into Championship Weekend you have at least 15 teams with a realistic shot at getting in the playoff.

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  11. charlottedawg

    Honestly I think the current set up of 4 teams is great, I’d argue it makes conference championship weekend much more compelling and 2007 is literally the only season in the last 20, where more than 4 teams could make a case for being the best team in the country post conference championships and thus deserved a shot at playing for a national championship (us, usc, lsu oklahoma and Ohio State)
    that’s it, every other year it’s been pretty fucking obvious who the best teams are and it’s never more than 4 usually at most 3, in some seasons like 2011 it was pretty obvious who the best team was (LSU) and a national championship game wasn’t even necessary but we had to play one so the tigers got robbed.

    If you’re a P5 team, you control your destiny to a national championship at the beginning of every year. It’s not clemson, ohio state or Alabama”s fault other teams can’t make it. If the playoff were instituted 20 years ago, Miami then USC would have made however many consecutive appearances and would have won a bunch more titles including shellacking teams like 2004 auburn and 2006 florida. The same teams winning playoff games year after year is a symptom of a tier of programs seperating themselves from the pack not the other way around. If you expand the playoffs you’re just going to see more blowouts in the first two rounds similar to how clemson and alabama have done in the srmi finals during the playoff era. There aren’t more than 4 deserving teams in a given year. Sorry.

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  12. Teacher Martin

    That’s a big if.

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  13. mg4life0331

    Before my time so help me out. What were people saying during the Bear Bryant, Nebraska, Miami and USC runs?

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  14. RangerRuss

    If your program isn’t in the playoffs it’s their own damn fault. Fifteen years ago Bama and Clemson sucked. They made the decision and put forth the effort to win and succeeded.

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    • I’m inclined to agree. The current system isn’t perfect—honestly I’d prefer to go back to the pre-BCS system where the bowls invite whoever and if there’s a split champion, so be it—but at least “pick the four best teams” means the champion will almost assuredly be the best team. As boring as it is to see Bama and Clemson in every single CFP, I’d be pretty irritated if they started throwing in Cincinnatis, Floridas, or other non-deserving teams just for the sake of variety, tainting the championship in the process.

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  15. UCF, Boise, Cincy, put 2 decent P5 schools on your schedule evey year. Boise tried, and good on them, and look how quick it lasted.

    I dread the day of 8 teams. But i knew it would come the day we had a 2 team playoff. Eventually the #9 team will be screwed by politics and well need 16. Ill likely be dead. But everything creeps.

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  16. TN Dawg

    In a 16 team playoff, we’d be playing…..Cincinnati.

    Only we’d have our full compliment of players and we’d be more intensely focused on winning because it meant something, both for players and fans.

    If we disposed of them as most feel we would at full strength, we’d have a rematch with Bama with Daniels at QB.

    I’m not sure how we look at a scenario like that and say we wouldn’t like it better than the current scenario.

    And so would Cincy. And Coastal. And TAMU.

    The players and the fans.

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  17. Illini84

    Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard, the man tasked with keeping coach Matt Campbell as leader of the Cyclones as long he can, has a bone to pick with ESPN. This week, Pollard tweeted in the sports media entity’s direction following the four-hour College Football Playoff and bowl schedule reveal resulted in very little drama and was the least-watched finale in the final four era.

    “And we wonder why teams are opting out. ESPN is making the rest of College Football irrelevant. We need to really take a hard look at this process in the off season,” Pollard tweeted.

    Outside of seeding, there was very little parity in this season’s selection committee rankings as the same four teams remained in the final four after every poll release over the past month. It made for very little intrigue and kept programs outside of the semifinals waiting several hours to know their fate, to which Pollard speaks.

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  18. classiccitycanine

    First, let me say I’m not a fan of a playoff system for college football. It’s a poor process for deciding a national championship in a “league” that has such little parity. It’s also the greatest threat to the sanctity of the regular season, which I think should be the top priority of everyone in college football.

    That said, I can grudgingly live with a 4-team playoff. However, here are the formats I would prefer over a 4-team playoff:
    1. Play all the bowls and then select the top 2 teams to play in the Title game.
    2. BCS-like system with advanced stats, the AP poll, and no Coaches Poll.
    3. Bowls and Polls pick a champion after all the games have been played.
    4. 8-team playoff with 5 conference champions, top G5, and 2 at-large. No further expansion ever.

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