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In the last two seasons, Georgia tight ends have a total of 47 receptions. Out of almost 1700 plays…
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Over the past 2 seasons, #UGA has run 15 of their 1,690 plays without a tight end on the field.
A WR room of Pickens, Burton, Jackson, Rosemy-Jacksaint, Blaylock & Arian Smith plus Cook & McIntosh as receiving threats out of the backfield might change that number.
— Brent Rollins (@PFF_Brent) January 21, 2021
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In the last two seasons, Georgia tight ends have a total of 47 receptions. Out of almost 1700 plays…
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“And Georgia fans, don’t be turds. Enjoy this. Soak it up. It’s awesome. If you don’t win this year, it’s still not a failure. It’s a heck of a run. Back-to-back in the Playoff era hasn’t been done. So, to ask for a third I feel like it’s gluttonous. I feel like it’s not OK. But we’ll be in the mix.”-- David Pollack, On3.com, 5/9/23
Someone tell me again why Arik Gilbert should even consider coming to Georgia?
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Because STFU!!
He’ll be used a WR dammit!
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There’s the kind of intelligence and wit we’ve all come to expect from you.
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You’ll be ok.
Arik is one of the best prospects I’ve seen.
Our fans boo the team on his official and he picks lsu.
Fans have zero regret for booing…their own team during a five star’s visit. Smh.
Now he’s being discouraged from coming here by you? Why?!?!
If Herschel Walker had committed to Lavell Edwards they would have ran the damn ball more!
In short, I’d like to see Gilbert and red and black and I’m tired of so called fans fucking with it with their damn pie holes.
Athens is the perfect place for Gilbert, full stop end of discussion.
You also know who would have been a perfect fit in Athens and visited here in around 1976?
Joe Montana.
Because, stfu!
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Once again, your reading comprehension is so off the charts as to not register at all. I asked a question. A logical question. A question Arik Gilbert and his family are likely asking or have already asked.
But sure, if you think my asking a question is the thing that will prevent Gibert from coming to Georgia and not that fact that Kirby historically sees no reason to involve TEs in the offense as anything more than blockers (which is why Nauta left when he shouldn’t have, btw), be my guest, chief.
In fact, I can guarantee that, and not “fans booing” is why he didn’t choose Georgia in the first place. But you do you.
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You’re either part of the solution or part of the problem.
You seem to have lots of guarantees that turn magically into jokes when they end up being wrong.
The kid was on campus for a reason. We didn’t show our best selves.
Perhaps if he saw us fans were the type who supported a team that was struggling, or BECAUSE they were struggling, then he’d have fallen in love with the place.
I guarantee that you can’t read his mind.
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You do know the Tooth Fairly, Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus aren’t real, and that you cannot simply manifest something simply because you want it, right?
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“If you will it, it is no dream.”
Theodor Herzl
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Hard work is the only equity that matters. Dreams are for losers.
— Me
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So, now that you’re no longer a sports fan…. we’ll see ya!
Later!!
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LOL. It’s like you can’t help yourself. You have absolutely no self-control at all, like a child or that other one here. You notice I never respond to the volume of idiotic things you say here? At all? You don’t exist to me. I let others deal with your particular brand of pedantic bullshit.
So given that… if this means you’re gonna go back to not bothering me, as well, I’m all for it.
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Where’s the “sweat equity” in being a Georgia fan?
Please enlighten me.
All we have in being a fan, hope, you just said was pointless.
Fine.
So fuck off and go be productive. Theres no productive here.
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Close to home, Dawgs R a winner, a need, 15 & 0 FWIS-get on the train, A Monken offense….if Kirby interferes, “Corch” will straighten him out.
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Close to home, Dawgs R a winner, 15 & 0 FWIS-get on the train, a Monken offense…..if Kirby interferes, “Corch” will straighten him out.
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So dumb you felt the need to say it twice just to drive home how dumb you are?
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No….that was just a convenience for you, thought it would stick better the 2nd time.
You’re the best.
GO Gata!!
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”15 of their 1,690 plays”
LAWD……who has time to count all of that shat.
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I can just about remember each time we actually threw to the tight end. It’s not that hard.
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Legitimately one of the best things about Donnan and the Richt / Bobo offense is that they could hurt you many ways if they actually did a good job game planning and getting everyone involved.
A tight end can be the best weapon on the field. Bill Walsh realized it. So did Josh McDaniels. And it makes my skin crawl to say it, but so did Sideshow Dan the Clown this season.
I hope Monken took notes.
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How do we recruit TEs? Hopefully Washington has just started. He is a tremendous threat downfield and as much as I don’t like him Mullen would have him up for multiple awards.
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I live for the next time the big 0 is throwing kids off like playground ball. That was my moment of the season. Just one. Hope to get one again sometime.
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Why not just recruit extra tackles and put em on the field if that’s what Kirbs really wants…
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#0 is 6’7 and pushing 260. so, yea.
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Even if you only throw it to that position 25 times a year, that’s 25 times you need the guy to actually catch it, and a few hundred more times you need the D to respect the possibility that you might pass it to him. You need an eligible receiver, not an “eligible” receiver.
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Based on that I’d say there’s a better chance of Washington transferring out than Gilbert transferring in.
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Washington appears to be what we hoped Orson Charles would be. And he had 5 receptions in the last two games as a true freshman. May just be small sample size, might be Monken/Daniels finally taking advantage of a new asset.
I mention orson charles because it seems like every young tight end is “the next Gronk.” They never are. We seem to think the lack of targets to TE’s just means OC’s don’t know how to use them. But the more likely reason is that the true pass catching TE’s are super rare.
The reason is that they absolutely must be able to block before pass catching is even a relevant skill. Otherwise they’re just a big slow receiver and those are not hard to find. Even the best catching TE’s are basically just competent receivers and that’s not that unique.
To get significant targets a TE basically has to be not only a very good blocker, but the best blocker of all the tight ends, and at least the third best true receiver on a team. Again, super rare.
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All that may be true – but there is nothing better than watching a big tight end catch the ball and rumble down field throwing off defensive backs and bowling them over. Go big Zero!
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What winning team has the highest target rate for tight ends, and what is the average? Where do we fall on the “curve”. Because it doesn’t feel like we’re all that unique.
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Is no one as disturbed about these stats as I am. If you want proof why our O struggled look no further. If our QB wasn’t a threat to run and our TEs weren’t a threat to catch (and both were always on the field) then a D coordinator only had to account for 4 attacking players. Georgia may have had the Jimmies and Joes but prepping for us must have seemed like a week off for SEC D coordinators!
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Would be if not for the clear change in direction under Monken that we saw when he got his QB healthy. Washington got involved as soon as JT did.
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I’ve always thought the hand-wringing over lack of TE involvement is a little unrealistic. TEs don’t get that many targets, even in offenses that utilize them well. If half those 1690 plays are runs, and then at least 35% of the passes are incomplete, you’ve got around 500 catches max. The cfb stats link shows 433 total receptions in those 2 years. TEs having ~11% of a team’s total receptions doesn’t seem that low to me. I’m also an idiot, so who knows.
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Thank you. Every throw to a tight end is a play where in which someone else doesn’t get the ball. Take 2017. Want Chubb, Michel or Swift to get fewer carries so a TE can get more passes thrown to him, or fewer passes thrown to Wims, or Godwin?
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Or passing to the TE in the middle of the field backs the safeties out of the box and makes the LBers less likely to fully commit to the run, thus opening up even better opportunities for big time runs.
It’s called strategic thinking, as opposed to idiot caveman “impose your will” thinking.
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No, the argument is not whether we should have TEs run pass patterns in order to make defenses divert attention to the TEs, or whether we need to actually pass the ball to TEs. The fact that we have at least one TE on the field on 1675 of 690 plays shows that we are making defenses account for a TE. I have no idea of what percentage of those plays were pass plays, in what percentage of those plays the TE ran a route and of those what percentage of those passes were thrown to TEs.
It is hard for me to believe that we aren’t putting TEs in routes a lot and targeting them some. We are making defenses guard the TEs and taking safeties out of the box.
We can force safeties out of the box by use of WRs, too. But that is besides the point.
The argument is whether we should throw more passes to TEs than we do; the argument is whether we should increase the number of times we throw to TEs and reduce the number of times we throw to widd receivers or backs out of the backfield. The fact we DO throw some to TEs makes defenses account for them. You are arguing that once we do make defenses account for TEs there is some additional number of passes we should take away in, for example, in 2017, from Wims, Godwin and Ridley to increase passes to TEs? What is that magic number of additional throws to the TE we should be making, and why? The safeties are already out of the box.
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Typo, it is 1690 not 690 plays.
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Tight end? That’s that extra tackle lined up next to the first tackle, right?
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What is this TE you speak of? And why is our “0” on a milk carton?
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But how many of those 1700 plays were runs vs passes?
It’s skewed stats. While 47 receptions out of ~800 doesn’t look great, it’s certainly more appealing that 47 out of 1700.
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