You get what you pay for? Maybe.

Here’s a question for you.

Chip Towers reports that Josh Brooks’ salary as Georgia’s new AD is $700,000 in his first year.  Apparently, it’s a one-year deal, although Towers says it’s expected Brooks will eventually sign a multi-year contract.  Towers also adds this:

He was chosen over “dozens” of candidates, who were vetted by the search firm owned by former Ole Miss AD Todd Turner, Collegiate Sports Association.

Meanwhile, at Tennessee, in a more heralded hire, Danny White has received a considerably greater commitment from his school.

Danny White agreed to a rolling five-year deal to be Tennessee’s athletics director, according to the Memorandum of Understanding obtained by Knox News on Friday.

Chancellor Donde Plowman introduced White on Friday. He was hired Thursday. The MOU was signed by Plowman and White on Wednesday and is to be formalized with a contract within 60 days.

The MOU states that White’s contract will automatically extend for one year at the end of a contract year, so that the contract will always have five years remaining.

White will earn $1.8 million initially, making him the Southeastern Conference’s highest-paid athletics director in terms of recurring annual pay and fourth highest-paid public school AD in the nation, according to data compiled in summer 2020 for AthleticDirectorU by attorneys Robert Lattinville and Roger Denny. USA TODAY Sports procured the contracts for the data in partnership with Syracuse University’s S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications and assisted in the analysis.

Now, there’s no denying the two athletic departments face considerably different circumstances and, accordingly, it’s not unreasonable to think Tennessee had to pay top dollar.  Putting out dumpster fires doesn’t come cheaply.

But here’s my question for you:  there’s little question that Danny White has had a more successful track record hiring/firing coaches than did Greg McGarity (Brooks is a blank slate in that regard, so it’s unfair to make that comparison).  Let’s say, though, for the sake of argument, and with the awareness of the institutional priorities at B-M, that Georgia’s record in that regard continues at roughly the same level going forward.  If you were in a position to choose, how much more would you be willing to pay an athletic director who was better at identifying coaching talent than what we’ve been used to, assuming all else being equal?

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54 responses to “You get what you pay for? Maybe.

  1. gotthepicture

    FWIW, Josh Pate keeps citing the increase in revenue during White’s tenure as being more important than coaching hires to college’s looking for ADs. So I guess, if you can increase donations and funding and not screw up the football coach hire, then it doesn’t matter if you screw up hiring the women’s basketball coach, men’s track & field coach, etc.

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    • Down Island Way

      UGA’s WBB hire is starting to show promise, UGA track and field coach was a good hire, MBB not so much, Diamond Dawgs hire is hanging in there..really interested where UGA goes for the next S&D coach/M tennis (though that may be years down the road) golf ???, W volleyball seems like a 3 year hire/fire experiment, W softball is in good hands, don’t know what that relationship is like…UGA’s next hire may show what Mr. Brooks has in mind/direction for the UGA athletic department going forward…really looking to see if the UGA AD has a 2-5-10-20 year plan for athletics…Pandemic not with standing…

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      • gotthepicture

        Honestly, I just threw out 2 sports. I wasn’t sure if there had been recent hires there or not, so I wasn’t picking on McGarity for particular hires, just picking non-revenue sports.

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      • Not to be that guy, but I will…..volleyball is a good hire. Whether he will stay here or not is a question.

        Georgia had gotten so bad…that in the previous coach’s final season (granted, she was also a GM hire) they won 3 sets….not matches….sets in conference play all year.

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      • Not sure what the hell is going on with Crean. Maybe men’s basketball really is just that cursed. Everything about his hire was fine. He is a great leader and tons of energy. He’s probably the #1 person I would choose to work for in the AD in Athens. He’s the kind of guy that will be fired in 2 years and go somewhere else and go to a final four in 2 years. Just don’t get it. Its a very cutthroat and evil and corrupt sport though. He maybe too good a guy. We were 7-0 and hit the SEC and then the wheels came off the bus. Beat UK for the first time in 8 years or something. just all over the map.

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        • JoeDashDawg

          UK is terrible this year.

          There is some stigma with UGA with the Atlanta area AAU programs (Which are some of the best in the country). Probably stemming all the way back to Harrick and the following UGA coaches getting the directive not to even sniff NCAA violations. I can’t think of why that is other than those AAU coaches/players are getting something from other programs that they do not get from UGA. It’s really frustrating.

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          • Russ

            Yes UK is terrible but they still have UK players and I’ll take the win.

            And I agree with Chuck. Not sure why Crean can’t get it done. Someone pointed out a lot of our production this season is coming from grad transfers which means we’re not even building for the future. I guess Dooley should have paid Tubby his money.

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          • Gaskilldawg

            The way the UGA AA handled the allegations against Harrick in 2003 killed UGA in the AAU community.
            Other schools had recruited against UGA for years using the argument that UGA didn’t care about its Black basketball players graduating. While I think that argument was not based on fact the argument was effective. (I had a friend who was a former NCAA D-1 basketball coach years ago who told me that he and other coaches constantly used that argument effectively .)
            At the March 2003 press conference announcing that UGA TOOK ITSELF out of the SEC tournament (even though it was among the best teams in the conference) and took itself out of the NCAA tournament the University president and the AD called 2 of the players academic frauds. Both we legitimate Dean’s List students and both were Black.
            I was coaching an AAU team at the time. The AAU community was outraged. First was the idea that we accused 2 good students whk were Black of being frauds.
            Second, that we, in their minds, confirmed the allegation that UGA didn’t care if Black athletes succeeded academically. Third, the universal refrain that, “They wouldn’t have done that to the football team,” which was likely true. AAU coaches were disgusted with UGA.
            Then, when we hired Felton Adams and Dooley told him that Atlanta AAU was corrupt and not to recruit it.
            It took Felton and Fox years to overcome the 2003 demolition of the basketball program’s reputation in the AAU community.

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            • bigjohnson1992

              Probably true. But doesn’t totally explain our perpetual basketball ineptness. Can’t convince me that Gonzaga has an A+ relationship with the AAU. Or Wichita state. Or dozens of other successful college basketball schools. Sounds like a great excuse though!

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  2. Granthams Replacement

    I would like up AD compensation with where Georgia falls in revenue generation, so top 10. I have no idea what ADs make other than Brooks, White and Greg’s old salary. If $1.8 million is 7th on the list I’d pay it. Greg was stealing and UT had to overpay. Brooks just started so $700,000 sounds like a good starting point. Just from a few articles it’s apparent Brooks has more leadership ability in his little finger than the total for Greg.

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  3. So far, I like the Brooks hire. He has said all of the right things and could be a home run hire. Morehead wants people in these roles that are loyal to Georgia (like he has been) – that may be a symptom of The Georgia Way.

    His success is tied to making sure Kirby is successful and the Magill Society commitments come through while not landing UGA on the front page with NCAA violations. Everything else really is noise.

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  4. MGW

    Nothing against Brooks, but you’re talking about maybe a million dollars a year to hire a proven AD who knows how to hire coaches. Is it worth preserving that one million dollars just in case football needs it when that money could make success in every other sport a whole lot more likely? I know football is number one as it should be, but can we not spare a million to help buoy the rest of the athletic programs with proven competent leadership?

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  5. biggusrickus

    Has White made better hires? Their major programs outside of football haven’t been anything special. Hell, Heupel has trended downward in his three years, for that matter. It looks like he hired a good women’s basketball coach.

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  6. He is the guy I would hire right off. He probably would have come to UGA for
    a lot less than he’s making but I would have paid him $1 to 1.3 million.You didn’t say what you would pay, if anything Senator.

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  7. practicaldawg

    Most of McGarity’s compensation was for being a bond fund manager. Maybe Brooks is only being paid for coaching decisions.

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  8. David D

    I’ll reserve my opinion until I see how he handles (Insert Player’s Name Here: ___________) the next baller who sells his own autograph and/or jersey.

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    • “your GD right”. He’s one more season away from a decision on Crean, unless we are going to let Crean hang around 5 years too long like Fox. We will need a new bandstand or something eventually – is it bake sale time? He’s in an easy spot, for now. And scheduling will be coming around the bend.

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  9. uga97

    the only thing that matters is our football program getting a natty. if UT hires Joe Brady, Chadwell Fickell, Buffalo guy, and in 5 years We don’t have a natty, and UT is turned around by then, welp….then we will know the answer as to what the vale of each AD is.

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  10. I’d have to see what his peers are making and then assess what kind of job he’s done after 2-4 years. I imagine Tennessee is on the high end, especially for a new hire, so they’re an outlier. I’m thinking 1 to 1.2 if Brooks does a good.

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  11. Russ

    I’d pay commensurate with our revenue level. I would hire based on the plan he/she shows for facilities, coaches, athletes, the whole shebang. Then, I’d bump pay based on athletic performance and no sanctions.

    Not knowing what Brooks brings to the table, I can’t really comment. McGoofity had NO plan, except to ask for more money from the fans. White is annoying but he at least stood up for the school in football. I don’t know how the rest of their programs are so I can’t comment. Frost won, and Heupel started out okay but may be slipping.

    One thing to remember is that White didn’t start with a blank slate. UCF has won before with some decent teams. When O’Liar-y wasn’t killing players and embellishing his resume, they did well. I don’t think White was there then.

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  12. Apparently, overall athletic success doesn’t have much to do with it at some programs. Quick Google search: https://footballscoop.com/news/the-highest-paid-ads-in-college-sports-are-athletic-directors-salary-database-jack-swarbrick/

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  13. Danny White was making 575k at UCF. Tennessee really loves throwing money out the window.

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  14. akascuba

    So far all Josh has to do is say. I agree Kirby that sounds like a good idea.

    Until he actually starts placing his stamp on coaching hires a middle of the pack SEC salary is fair. I hope his future track record of great hires makes him the highest paid AD in the land. Was not the standard once upon a time not stated to be competing for NC`s in every sport.

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  15. Ozam

    Danny White has a 5-year rolling contract? At $1.8mm per year it’s a $9mm liability whenever you fire him (absent some contractual language to the contrary). Once again, the decisions made by public institutions defy logic. OPM (other people’s money) for the win!

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  16. Tony BarnFart

    Seriously, why are we so stuck on perma-suck in men’s basketball ? I guess it’s because we never want another Harrick situation…. basketball at georgia is simply not important enough to cheat ? It is what it is.
    /my theory

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    • We signed Ant Man, so we’re willing to pursue the best players. The problem is we can’t shoot the ball consistently. This team would be completely different with Edwards on the floor.

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      • Gaskilldawg

        When we opened the Coliseum in 1963 it was the largest basketball venue by seating capacity in the SEC (it really was.) That passed of Adolf Rupp who put a curse on UGA basketball for building a facility that that sat more that Kentucky’s Memorial Gym (I made that part up but I have no better explanation for why our basketball program seems to be cursed.)

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