Off the mark

If there’s a reason to be cautious about JT Daniels’ future in red and black, it’s been his propensity to turn the ball over.  In his freshman season at USC, his only full season, he threw ten interceptions in 363 pass attempts.  That ratio was better in his four games last year — 2 picks in 119 attempts — but he also got away with a few bad throws, like this one that could have cost Georgia the Peach Bowl.

Daniels turnover-worthy throw right before Jack Podlesny's field goal.

We saw him underthrow his receivers pretty much in every game.  Young attributes some that — fairly, I think — to a lack of time for Daniels to get familiar with his receivers.  But surely some of that is simply the result of the risk inherent in having a gunslinger mentality.

To put it another way, there’s plenty for Daniels and Monken to work on this offseason.


Filed under Georgia Football, Strategery And Mechanics

28 responses to “Off the mark

  1. MudCat's Mechanic

    I hope he seriously looks at his mechanics. He’s throwing off of his back foot way too much resulting in the under throws/inaccuracy. His arm is strong enough on it’s own to make up for some of the body mechanics but it won’t win him any awards.

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  2. ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

    Mechanics too. He’ll get better though. A world of arm talent.

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    • RangerRuss

      Man, I hope so. If JTD doesn’t improve even one iota the Dawgs will still have a year that will be the envy of most programs. However, the SEC East will be the limit unless the competition is way down. That’s a sorry plan.
      Just seeing the improvements Monken made in the offense gives me confidence that he and Daniels will work out the issues with JT’s passing game. Monken is literally and figuratively a Pro. With the spring practice, summer drills and regular season he will have the time to make those adjustments or train another QB to get the job done. I fully expect to see the Dawgs go deep into the playoffs.
      I’m mixing this Kool Aid by the Lister bag full fellows.
      Go Dawgs!

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  3. If Daniels throws that ball to the pylon, it’s a touchdown. He has some improvements to make in mechanics and in decision making. Every young QB has that … Matthew Stafford was still learning to play the position as a junior at Georgia and had a propensity to trust his arm talent over his mechanics and decision making. I think there are 13 schools in the SEC who would be willing to trade QBs with us right now (yes, I include Alabama and Ole Miss).

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    • ASEF

      Alabama’s Young is relatively untested, but he came out with Trevor/Fields level hype. Ranked right besides Clemson’s DJ You-unga-leilei. (I can pronounce it, can’t spell it).

      I think Corral is a good comp. Huge upside, needs a lot of polishing to get there.

      We do this to QBs: assume all upside and a steep linear path to improvement. It never works out that way.

      IF Daniels and Co get past Clemson, and IF Daniels then settles in and uses the next 11 scrimmages to aggressively hone his game, he could be a nightmare for opponents by season’s end.

      But I think the Senator is trying to gently wake people up to the fact that Daniels has some real development needs on his plate.

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      • Spell Dawg

        …assume all upside and a steep linear path to improvement…
        Pollack gushing over D’Wan Mathis’ upside two weeks before the season started comes to mind immediately.

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  4. Ran A

    Only thing that bothered me was the choice of that throw. Really didn’t think it was that bad. Just glad that the receiver was smart enough not to catch it- knowing he wouldn’t make it into the EZ, because it would have been the last play of the game.

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    • originaluglydawg

      That’s a good observation. He was a little too far from the sideline and may have come down in bounds which wouldn’t have stopped the clock. And he never really slowed down for the ball, so the DB, running at full speed like he was, would have almost certainly nailed him before he could have made the end zone. The throw could have been completed if thrown a half second earlier and flatter (too much air time). We’re lucky it wasn’t!
      (Except the clock stops on a first down..which it would have been)

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  5. theotherdoug

    One thing that is helping to limit his interceptions is the WRs are frickin’ wide open.

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  6. Yeah, pretty sure me and some others on here mentioned this a month or two ago amongst the “JT for Heisman” chatter and were ridiculed for it. The kid has lots of promise, lots, but he got away with several bad throws last year. Luck tends to run out on that type of thing.

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    • No reason he shouldn’t be considered as a candidate. The Bammers are already anointing Young as the Heisman winner and he played much less than JT did.

      I’m not saying he’s going to win it, but he is probably the league’s top candidate today.

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      • TN Dawg

        Plus we have a very soft schedule.

        No Bama, LSU, or TAMU.

        His numbers should be huge against the weaker sisters of the SEC in the East.

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  7. practicaldawg

    We don’t need JT to be perfect or turnover-less. Remember when Mac Jones threw an INT early in the Alabama game? Turnovers are fine when you 1) have an elite defense and 2) are scoring TDs on the non-turnover possessions. Turnovers are not fine when your offense’s ceiling is 21 points in a game (see 2019 UGA).

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  8. Thats a bad throw yo. mechanics.

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  9. ASEF

    Look at where the safety starts the play and his leverage the entire way through. He knows the play is to his left (our right), and he never hesitates in his drop. He might even be baiting the throw by lining up so close the line of scrimmage and then immediately flaring back to the boundary throw on the high-low read.

    In other words, this is as much a recognition issue for JT as a mechanics issue. Or maybe the kind of play where those things intersect. Needs to understand how the safety is playing post-snap, adjust the throw accordingly.

    And I would close with this: nicely disguised defense, well executed by the safety, Really can’t talk about the play without giving the DC and safety some credit for a great play.

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    • Texas Dawg

      We all do it. When we turn it over, it was a bad play on our part. We should complete every pass. When we get a turnover, it was the result of a great play by our defense and the other team should be O for the game on pass completions. Sometimes you just have to tip your had to your opponent for making a great play or pat your guy on the back for out dueling a worthy opponent.

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  10. PTC DAWG

    What I noticed the most in that clip was the center and the left guard/tackle giving up serious ground…JT had no time to set, etc….

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  11. benco04

    That safety is well coached. At snap, he releases and sprint’s aggressively back into his assigned zone position. Then he has a split second to turn his hips back to the play just as JT begins his motion. At that point, he has terrific recognition and releases from the play again and runs to defend. If he begins his hesitation back to the LOS just a few yards shallower (a common mistake) its probably a completion.

    Some are saying that JT fires a TD is he throws to the forward pylon. I disagree. You can see that the safety actually has to shallow out his second release. He might’ve had the deeper throw covered too.

    More than anything, I’m just glad JT doesn’t have quite enough inner pocket space to step into the throw. If he had, he might’ve been able to get over his front leg better and take some air out of the throw. Then he’s probably completed the pass in that traditional gap between shallow corner and deep safety, Burton gets hit right after catch, and we are lamenting a loss.

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    • Texas Dawg

      There are times that a “bad” play turns out to be a “great” play. The law of unintended consequences strikes again on that play (this time in a good way)


  12. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    “…some of that is simply the result of the risk inherent in having a gunslinger mentality”

    Yes, yes, yes. As VD used to say three things can happen in a pass play and two of them are bad. Which is true, What he didn’t say was that you could say the same thing about running plays. (thrown for a loss, fumble). The main thing is to be smart and follow your coaching. Fewer ‘hold my beer’ plays are what will get us to where we want to be. I am kind of optimistic about getting there.


  13. stoopnagle

    All good points in the comments. His knee is likely still healing/getting to 100%. I’d think that’ll help as well.


  14. akascuba

    I wonder if some it was of. We have great receivers and I watched the ball sail over their heads repeated with zero chance of success before I started. Lets try some 50/50 jump balls and see who has better athletes.
    Seriously there is so much upside to add with the talent he has to work with. The sky
    s the limit for him and the offense.

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  15. This is what I think about every time he gets mentioned for Heisman or breaking records. Sometimes it’s obvious that he’s intentionally underthrowing a ball and then sometimes it’s not so obvious. Sometimes it seems his touch is off and other times it’s just bad. I believe he can make all the calls and throws but he definitely has a lot to work on. This off-season with Monken and the QB coach from Southern Mississippi will tell us a lot about this staff.

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