Your 4.7.21 Playpen

You may have heard about this exchange ($$) at Smart’s weekend presser:

Smart avoided weighing in on Major League Baseball’s All-Star Game being pulled from Atlanta in the wake of the state’s recently signed election legislation. The coach was asked Saturday if there was any concern about the SEC championship or future national championship games. being pulled from Atlanta.

“Yeah, I try my best to keep my head down and continue to work on our team, and what we have to deal with with our players, and I certainly worry about the mental state with our players, and I talk about what we’ve talked about before, the ability to have safe space and open conversations,” Smart said. “But I don’t get into the political side of it.”

Discretion being the better part of valor, I don’t blame him a bit for deflecting.  But you know who doesn’t have that luxury?

That would be Mr. Greg Sankey.  If he’s not hearing anything yet, give it time.

Before you scoff, the NCAA, the SEC and the UGA football program have been public about making sure college athletes are empowered in positive ways.  Here’s an example from last fall:

Ahead of arguably the biggest game of Georgia’s season, the Bulldogs will not be practicing on Tuesday. The Florida Gators, who have lost three straight to Georgia and missed practice time in October due to a COVID-19 outbreak, will also not be practicing.

The entire sport will not be practicing on Tuesday due to an NCAA mandated off day to allow student-athletes the opportunity to go vote…

“I think it’s very important for them to give us a chance to do that,” offensive lineman Jamaree Salyer said. “Us being allowed to go have our voice heard is probably one of the most game-changing things I’ve seen in a while. Our age group is one of the most influential age groups across the country. For us as football players to go out and voice our opinions to get to say who we want to be in office I think is really important.”

The day off does cause a disruption for teams, as Tuesday is usually a key day in preparing for the coming Saturday. And for Georgia, not that many players will actually be voting on Tuesday.

But that’s because over 90 percent of the Georgia football team has already voted according to Kirby Smart’s estimate.

“It’s unique now that it was such a point of emphasis on our athletic department and our athletic administration did a great job of getting 100 percent of our student-athletes to vote,” Smart said.

And let’s not forget the impetus behind Mississippi changing its state flag last year.

And on June 22, in the sleepy town of Starkville, Kylin Hill called for the state of Mississippi to remove from its flag poles a chilling reminder of the Old South. Mississippi was the last remaining U.S. state to feature the Confederate battle flag cross on such a celebrated symbol, all the while holding a larger proportion of Black residents (38%) than any other state.

“Either change the flag,” Hill’s tweet read, “or I won’t be representing this State anymore 💯 & I mean that .. I’m tired.”

They opened a door.  It won’t be possible to close that door.  If the cries to move start coming hard over the summer — it should make for some interesting questions at SEC Media Days, for one thing — and players start chiming in, Sankey won’t be able to, as Smart put it, stay out of “the political side of things”.  Either way, he won’t have an easy choice to make.

Your thoughts on this and anything else are welcomed in the comments, as always.

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  1. Derek

    They should send the game to that not racist state in the sec footprint.

    Oh, wait….

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    • dawg100

      Like New York!!

      During the Colonial Period, 41% of NY households had slaves.
      In 1790, between 30% and 35% of the population of NYC were slaves.

      http://www.slaveryinnewyork.org/history.htm

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      • Derek

        Can you post NY’s secession proclamation?

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        • Teacher Martin

          Our founding fathers were afraid of a democracy! That’s why they set up a Republic and Federalism.

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          • Derek

            So the “teacher” is intended to be ironic, eh?

            Good job.

            We have representative democracy with checks and balances. We had it then, we have it now.

            The only thing that’s changed is who gets to participate by voting.

            Fortunately for you there’s never been an IQ test.

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            • Teacher Martin

              While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. … “Federal” means that there is both a national government and governments of the 50 states.

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          • Spell Dawg

            Oye, this again. A republic is a democracy; it’s just a representative form, rather than a direct democracy where all eligible people vote on every political initiative (could you imagine that…). The power still ultimately resides in the people, they elect their representatives (hence, a democracy).

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  2. originaluglydawg

    The world sucks.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. mwodieseldawg

    Louisiana and Kentucky are the only states with Democrat governors. Since democrats are incapable of racism the choice is obvious.

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  4. What are the new restrictions to Georgia voting that aren’t being used in other states?

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  5. Granthams Replacement

    The best course of action for the SEC is to be like Kirby and not get involved in politics. Once political statements are made a minimum of 40% of the country will be against the statement. Businesses should do the same.

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    • That horse is already outside the barn. Way outside.

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    • Derek

      “All Citizens United basically did was to level the playing field for corporate America, and for union America, and say you like a media company can… independently express your views about anything in this country. Why shouldn’t everybody be free to do that?”

      Mitch McConnell (W-KY)

      The republican world view is that you are free to speak what we tell you to. But if you’re signing a different tune, then stfu.

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      • spur21

        Look in your mirror dude.

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        • Derek

          As a free speech near absolutist I have no idea wtf you’re talking about.

          Free speech doesn’t mean being stupid in a safe space.

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          • spur21

            Derek you moron – this is what you said – “The republican world view is that you are free to speak what we tell you to. But if you’re signing a different tune, then stfu.”

            My point since you are too stupid to read with an open mind that sentence could just as easily say – “The liberal world view is that you are free to speak what we tell you to. But if you’re signing a different tune, then stfu.”

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            • Derek

              I belong to no groups.

              I’ve never told anyone to stfu.

              After all if they did stfu I couldn’t call them stupid. Because I wouldn’t know it yet.

              How would I have my fun then?

              Please speak freely.

              So I can mock you.

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              • spur21

                Derek you are unworthy of comments. I come to this blog to read about and discuss college football. You come here to stir up shit and denigrate those that have different opinions. Your attitude is typical of an angry liberal.

                Mock me all you want it won’t change the fact that you are a self-absorbed asshole.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  Spur, I like you. I know sometimes you don’t like me, but I like you even when we get into it about Kirby.

                  I’m a liberal. I believe in gay rights, limited abortion, civil rights, welfare benefits to help those who truly need it and the sanctity of individual rights. I believe, in my heart, that we are all created equal and I thoroughly reject the idea of “equity” and all other Marxist bullshit.

                  Derek is not a liberal. At all. He’s an authoritarian Leftist. We don’t really have a social accepted word for these people right now. There’s many: Wokeists. Neo Progressives. Regressive Leftists. There’s a lot of different words to describe them, but the one word that doesn’t is “liberal.”

                  To be a liberal, a real liberal, is to be for individual liberty. You want a beneficial government to help where it’s needed, but stay out of the way when it’s not. It’s a thin line to walk, I realize that, and it’s why so many former liberals have crossed that line and become more authoritarian. I tried for years on Twitter to take back the word liberal and have it mean what it really means until I gave up and got out of that cesspool forever.

                  Maybe here, on this blog we can agree that someone like me and someone like Derek are not living in the same zip code, or city limit (hah!), of what it means to be liberal.

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                • Derek

                  Self-absorbed? How?

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  6. If not for the racism, the Republican party would never lose an election. Their platform of conservative christian family values has ironically ostracized the Latino and black communities. There are no communities more christian and conservative than the black and Latino ones.

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  7. The Truth

    Do you think the SEC will take the time to see if where they want to move the game has more or less restrictive laws than the one Ga recently passed? Colorado’s, the new all star destination’s, are demonstrably more restrictive.

    But keep moving shit out of Ga for specious reasons — gotta prop Stacey’s political aspirations up somehow.

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    • Colorado’s, the new all star destination’s, are demonstrably more restrictive.

      Instead of accepting talking points at face value, you might want to do some actual research on the subject.

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      • The Truth

        I have, Senator. You show me yours and I’ll show you mine.

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        • Derek

          Same day voter registration in Colorado right?

          Not in Georgia, right?

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          • Derek

            He has the alternative facts to that.

            You know, the ones no reasonable person would believe are actually true.

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          • Thatthere’s how it ought to be done.

            I really liked using the outdoor dropbox in GA last election.

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          • RangerRuss

            Voting needs to be in person, first Tuesday in November with a valid ID. Anything else leads to corruption.

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            • Derek

              Fuck ya!

              No overseas voting for military.

              Totally corrupt!

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            • Oh yeah baby, play the hits.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                Brazil… BRAZIL is able to handle an orderly election in which results are known in hours, not weeks.

                In India, not only do you have to prove you are who you say you are with a picture ID, you get stamped with the same kind of indelible ink put into dye packs so you are marked as having voted.

                But please, tell us how the United States can’t do any of these things.

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                • RangerRuss

                  Lack of common sense is the greatest problem humanity faces, Corch. It’s evidenced when some are faced with simple solutions to an artificially complex problem. Childish rantings. They dig into their bag of ridicule, the MO of bullies and losers from time immemorial.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  I’m just happy to see that some of our biggest rabble-rouses here like Derek and Don and some of the others prove today without a shadow of a doubt just how racist they are.

                  Now we know, and I won’t soon forget.

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            • RangerRuss

              Bit dog hollers. That’s why you see who is screaming the loudest about any restriction on who can vote. The corrupt. If voting is so gotdam important to you then you’ll make arrangements to vote in person. The more complicated something is the more easily it’s corrupted. Honesty is simple. That’s too large a concept for some to comprehend.

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              • I’m sure you have hundreds of proven and tried/convicted examples of voter fraud to back this up, right?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  Let’s play a logic problem:

                  Do laws exist only to prevent something that happens AFTER that thing has happened, or do laws exist to prevent even things that haven’t happened yet?

                  Meaning, if we lived in a world where no one had ever committed murder, would it still be incumbent on society to create a law that makes murder illegal?

                  Also, voter fraud does happen. Google is your friend.

                  Here’s another piece of logic for you:

                  If you truly believe that voter fraud does not exist, wouldn’t the best way to ensure that the people you think are crazy for believing it does exist have no way of saying there is voter fraud is by doing the most you can to secure voting so you’re absolutely sure that people are who they say they are in order to vote and put as many legal roadblocks in their way to prevent them from voting more than once (as India, Brazil, the UK, Germany, France, and you know, almost every other democratic country in the world does)?

                  The people who say they don’t believe voter fraud is real should be the people who most want to secure the elections to take away an argument from the people who do.

                  Unless you’re only saying you don’t believe voter fraud is real, but you secretly really do because you believe it benefits “your side.”

                  Either way, why can’t the US do what almost every other democratic country in the world does to secure and better regulate our elections? To prevent fraud not only from individuals but foreign governments?

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                • The only convicted examples of voter fraud I’ve seen from the 2020 election were committed by Republicans, but please, type out some more paragraphs if it makes you feel clever.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  Thank you for proving my point.

                  Also, if that’s all you’ve “seen,” that must mean your likely only getting your news from sources with a singular view-point, because there’s been plenty on both sides.

                  But please, continue to tell us how your confirmation bias should be the rule of law, William.

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                • RangerRuss

                  See Corch, that’s how you make a point in an online debate. I reckon it’s a better method than my in-person solution to a ridiculous assertion. Just slapping the shit out of ’em seems to be frowned upon these days.

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              • originaluglydawg

                You nailed it, Ranger.
                That elephant in the room is hard to miss.

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        • gastr1

          You realize the whole state votes by mail, then, yes? 99.3% of voters voted by mail in 2020. Less in-person voting days in CO is because of less demand, not because of limited access.
          https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/newsRoom/pressReleases/2020/PR20200701VoteByMail.html

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    • This simply isn’t true about Colorado. If Georgia had Colorado’s election laws, Republicans in the state would shit a brick.

      Same day voter registration. A utility bill can be used as ID.

      Every registered voter is mailed a ballot. 24 hour drop boxes.

      Yes, CO has few days of in person voting, because almost everyone in the state votes by mail or uses dropboxes.

      They have 76% voter participation vs GA 67%.

      Let’s model CO’s laws and see how long it takes Kemp and Ralston to cry that it’s insecure. I’m guessing before the ink dries.

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      • Derek

        Given the demographics of Colorado is there a reall need for restrictions on voting?

        I mean its apples and oranges!

        There weren’t Wyoming law enforcement officers beating and hosing “those” people down in the 1960’s and its not because they’re better people.

        Just no “those” people.

        See the difference.

        So unfair!

        Sad!!

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      • PTC DAWG

        How do they check if “every registered voter” is alive? That seems to be a problem to me. Unless dead people voting is the norm.

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        • They match signature against the state database. So, either the deceased signed their ballot, but died before it was received (admittedly, no answers to how to stop that), or someone would have to forge a signature that gets past computer software and that county’s election judges. The state stores signatures for each government document that is signed to account for signature changing over time.

          https://coloradosun.com/2020/10/09/colorado-ballot-signature-questions/

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          • They’ve caught several people, in the last couple of major elections, who filled out and returned absentee ballots for recently deceased moms husbands etc…one such instance in Chattooga County GA

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            • Yeah, I mean is it possible? Sure, but it’s very unlikely that you an individual could get away with it, much less that it could scale to the level necessary to tip an election. And honestly, the software keeps getting better and better.

              My wife’s uncle died on Christmas Day (bummer, I know) and hadn’t sent his ballot back yet. By the 29th, his wife had received notice that his ballot had been invalid.

              So I mean, yeah, it’s theoretically possible, but it’s not very easy.

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    • stoopnagle

      This is so far wrong it’s laughable.

      Let me know if you dig up anything on voters waiting in line for hours to vote in Colorado.

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  8. They thing that might save the SECCG is that there isn’t really a slam dunk place to move it to.

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  9. DC Weez

    If it’s not okay to play the SEC Championship Game in Atlanta, why is it okay for SEC teams to play in Athens?

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  10. I’m really, really pissed about MLB taking our All-Star game away.

    I was only really pissed about the GA voting laws, which of course were passed by Republicans to give voters confidence in elections which were 99.9% secure anyway, except of course Trump lost.

    Y’all think the NCAA makes terrible decisions that hurt the sport they’re supposed to be protecting and promoting? MLB is worse. Before they moved the All-Star game, they’d contracted the affiliated minor leagues by about 25%, turning off tens of thousands of local baseball fans in the very small towns where baseball fandom remains very strong. Now, MLB has given GA republicans another weapon against the “cancel culture” for next year’s elections. Don’t even have to say you’re a Trumpite any more, just fuss about the radical liberals in MLB taking away jobs and money from our local economy. Stupid, stupid decision by MLB.

    Hopefully by football season this will have blown over and the SEC won’t feel pressured to make its own stupid decision.

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    • This ain’t blowin’ over any time soon. Both parties want to gin up outrage over it for their own partisan advantage.

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    • HirsuteDawg

      The Georgia election was not secure – here is proof positive. If the election had been “secure” then Mr. Perdue would be our senator and Mr. Trump would be our president. So to “secure” the next election some Georgia voters will have to be suppressed. What bothers me more than the voter suppression is the legislature overriding local election commissions.

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  11. TN Dawg

    I wonder if the SEC will join the left in the false and overtly racist view that members of minority cultures are too stupid, irresponsible and incompetent to obtain a driver’s license or photo ID.

    I mean imagine how asinine it is to claim that an entire sector of society is incapable of producing documents to vote, whilst simultaneously having them fill out their FAFSA papers for school.

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    • I wonder if you’ve read the Georgia bill in its entirety.

      I mean imagine how asinine it is to claim that it’s all about voter ID.

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    • Derek

      My great-great-grandpappy showed his picture ID in 1836 to vote!

      If’n it wuz good enough for him!

      You know we had no elections before the advent of photography, right?

      Democracy from ancient Greece forward was always just a theory. Without photography, it was impossible. Sounded good tho.

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      • TN Dawg

        You realize that we managed to vote for basically ever without a month of early voting too, right?

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        • Derek

          But we’ve always had a computer counting them right?

          There is a difference between changes that make it easier, better and changes that make it harder without a good reason.

          My point is that we didn’t question whether we could have a free and fair election BEFORE photography. So historically, we know it can be done without photo id.

          That some right wing bean counter has decided that Photo ID eliminates more of those other people than their own voters, doesn’t mean that its about integrity. Its about participation.

          See the weyrich video posted elsewhere.

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        • We also voted for a long time where only white male property owners could vote too. Moving away from how we used to do things is called progress.

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  12. Teacher Martin

    The Masters didn’t move.

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  13. PTC DAWG

    MLB moved the game to a state that gives less time for early voting…and they also require an ID to vote.

    Optics and what’s trending on twitter rule the world now.

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  14. dman2020

    Bleeding hearters are so passionate till it comes back to bite them in the ass which all this has. Abrams has begged people not to boycott Georgia because she knows she just helped take big money in covid times away from the very black owned business in downtown Atlanta she claims she supports. Move the game. Please. At this point the sky is falling the sky is falling is not going to work.

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  15. Illini84

    None of you geniuses has followed the script and said “woke” yet. Damn.

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  16. spur21

    I woke up this morning and realized I wasn’t woke.

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  17. PTC DAWG

    I see above where every registered voter in Co gets a ballot mailed to them. That’s nuts, IMHO. Do they know the voter is alive? Do they know if the voter has moved? Do they know who fills out said ballots? Is mail never lost of mis-delivered in Colorado? I know I get my neighbors mail a good bit in my hood.

    Hard to believe that some of y’all have no issues with this. No wonder the Dems are upset at this GA bill, if they didn’t think it would make a difference in voting, they wouldn’t be sweating it. I want all legal votes counted from the people that want to vote..have some form of ID, etc..I can’t understand how any other way makes sense to any law abiding citizen.

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      • PTC DAWG

        So does a valid ID make sense to you to vote or not? I’m not watching that video.

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        • Derek

          Don’t want your head polluted with your ideas not developed in a right wing think tank?

          You might generate an independent thought, God forbid.

          I think there are ways other than photo id to ensure that the person who cast the vote is the person registered.

          I also think it highly risky to pretend to be someone else with precious little reward.

          If you’d watch the video you’d learn just how hard a crime voter fraud is to pull off.

          Truth can be an uncomfortable thing. Best to avoid it, if you’re a right wing nutter.

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        • You’re really cheating yourself. It’s an absolutely hilarious comedic parody about voting fraud pointing out the fact that voter fraud has absolutely, positively, trust us, never happened.

          Except for 2016. That election was bullshit.

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          • stoopnagle

            Election tampering, OTOH, is an old standby for the radical right.

            “Just find me 11,000 votes.”

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            • One of the more famous instances of a rigged election was LBJ’s senate election, where hundreds of votes turned up many days after the primary to give Johnson the win. While there were fraudulent votes in several precincts, Precinct 13 had at least 200 votes added in the same ink, same handwriting, in alphabetical order. To be fair, LBJ very likely lost the prior election because of voter fraud by his opponent. It’s just how Democrat machines ran elections.

              Of course, these days we know that finding loads of votes long after the polls close and poll watchers have been dismissed is just one of the hallmarks of a fair and secure election.

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    • They have 1 drop box for every 9,400 resident and the are accessible 24 hours a day, so that takes care of your lost in the mail concerns.

      As for moving, it doesn’t do you any good to get someone else’s ballot unless you also know what their signature that’s on file (multiple signatures actually) with the state looks like and you think you can forge it to a level well enough trip get past verifiers (selected by both parties).

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    • debbybalcer

      My family in CO are all conservative Republicans. None of them have any questions about the Integrity ofvoting by mail there of course my dad parroted the Trump party line about voting by mail by everyone else being a problem. Every eligible voter should have the right and access to vote. Fraud is a made up issue. I am called a RINO by some of my family. I am sure when they produce death certificates in CO they cull the voting records. I don’t remember my family talking about my mom receiving a ballot after she died.

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      • Colorado resident love their system. Which is why they consistently have one of the highest voter turnouts in the country.

        Again, anyone here think Kemp would be cool with 76% voter turnout in GA? How would that work out for him?

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        • snoopdawgydawg

          with the current population and voter demographics, he’d probably be pretty fine with it. 76% would include a lot of Kemp likely voters as well as Abrams likely voters. if it really were 76% in Georgia, I’d bet the republicans sustain top of the ballot control for quite a while.

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          • Possibly. Let’s do the CO model a d find out.

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          • stoopnagle

            If that was true, they wouldn’t have just done what they did. They’d have done the opposite and made it easier to vote.

            The fact is they know the demographic changes are not favoring them. A purple Georgia has been brewing for awhile. The only way they’re going to win is to limit access (the old stand-by) or come up with a new strategy (appeal beyond their base – that was the whole point of appointing Loeffler to the Senate but Trump blew it all up for them).

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  18. W Cobb Dawg

    You think MLB moving the all-star game is big news? Just imagine the shit show when one of our players is arrested for handing out bottles of water to lined up voters.

    Of course, it’s gonna be world wide headline news when ANY person is arrested for handing out a bottle of water to a voter. Next year’s primaries are gonna be a hoot.

    This is arguably the dumbest law any politician ever made. And the clowns who pushed this are gonna pay a huge price before it gets ditched.

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  19. CB

    Whether or not the new GA voter laws will effect minorities negatively I can’t be sure, but do none of the Republicans here question Kemp’s sweeping legislation to fight against the voter fraud that he himself insisted did not exist during the 2020 election cycle?

    Racism or no this is a pretty transparent attempt to tip the scales after Republicans got their asses handed to them in three elections last year.

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    • The irony is that that didn’t get their ass handed to them. It was a razor thin margin. Trump is gaping asshole who cost them colleges educated voters in Cobb and Gwinnett. Put Romney on the top of the ticket instead of Trump and GA is still red with 2 Republican senators.

      They had a chance to cut bait, but instead doubled down on the man who cost them the state. It’s remarkable.

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      • CB

        I was viewing 0-3 as the ass handing, but point taken, plus Dems winning in GA feels like an ass handing regardless of margin imo.

        I agree the GOP hitched their wagon to a moron and got drug through the mud. I fear dems are going to take the country over because the Republicans landing on tickets seem to be mostly jackasses like MTG, Gaetz, Cruz and Kemp. Something tells me DeSantis’ little victory over there woke media this week won’t last him long. Time will tell.

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        • Who knows. I think Duncan is plying the smarter long game, but I could be wrong.

          Either way, GA isn’t suddenly Vermont. Is it purple now instead of ruby red? Sure, but I really think it snaps back pretty quickly with almost anyone else on the top of the ticket. The split votes down ballot would suggest that.

          The bigger argument for another day is how dumb all this is. The party system is hated by almost everyone, but as long as we have Winner Take All in the EC, it will never change (and before everyone jumps on me, I’m not saying get rid of the EC, I’m saying WTA couples with the EC forces the 2 party system upon us).

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          • Georgia’s not Vermont. It’s Virginia, ten years ago.

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            • It feels that way right now, but idk. Atlanta isn’t Northern VA in that I think the ATL burbs are more culturally conservative than the DC burbs ever were, so I think snap back is possible (you have more history there, so maybe I’m wrong).

              Unless I’m mistaken, once VA went blue, it hasn’t gone back. I don’t see GA doing that. I think we might be solidly purple for a while.

              YMMV of course. It really will depend on whether Ds can keep turnout high in Macon, Savannah, Augusta, Columbus, which is a heavy lift.

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              • snoopdawgydawg

                If the republican party of GA follows in the footsteps of the republican party of VA, then yes, this will become a blue state. If rational republicans are able to wrest control from the MGT’s of the party, then this should be a red state for a while longer.

                That said, both parties seem hellbent on being a minority party, with the side the wins getting surprised. With all the craziness on the right, if Biden were able to present an agenda that peeled off a dozen senators and 30-40 representatives, he’d absolutely destroy the republican party’s national ambitions.

                instead, we’re getting what we see, which is “GA is Racist” “nationalize all decision making” “and all sorts of cultural contests.

                We live in stupid times and are governed by idiots, regardless of party identification

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                • Yeah, idk. We’ll see. They could’ve stopped Qaren in the crib and they didn’t. That doesn’t bode well for wrestling control back.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  A-fucking-men to that.

                  Or is it A-fucking-women? I can’t keep track of all the new Woke rules.

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                • HirsuteDawg

                  No way is there going to be 10 or 12 republican senators peeled off to vote with the democrats. Aint gonna happen

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          • CB

            Ranked choice voting

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            • I’m intrigued by the idea for sure. But do we have the patience in a national election to wait for that to play out? I mean, we just had an idiot coup bc 1 side said we had to have a winner election night.

              I can’t see how that wouldn’t take longer. I think that proportion allocation of a state’s EC votes might help, but you still have the situation where less than 270 kicks it to the house state deletions which gives small states an outsized vote.

              Love it on the local level though.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Cobb and Gwinnett have gone purple, if not red. No going back. Too many carpet baggers.

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        • They’re purple and will like tip based on the R on top of ticket.

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        • DawgFlan

          This is like the 3rd time I’ve seen you talk about democrats as carpet baggers, which is beyond ironic and quite hilarious as carpetbaggers are who brought the Republican party to the South.

          Often wrong but never in doubt.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            He’s not using the 1866 definition of the word, he’s using the definition of someone moving into the South from the North and bringing their politics with them. I agree it’s not a perfect metaphor, especially because historically, the carpetbaggers brought improved politics with them to the South. Before in the 1980’s and 1990’s the Boomers that were fleeing the high taxes and bad job markets and high rents of the North made sure not to vote similar people into office when they got here because they realized there was a direct correlation between how people in their states voted and their high taxes and bad job markets.

            These Northerners now are still fleeing the high taxes and bad job markets and high rents of their homes, but much like how Texas is worried about their influx of Californians, these new migrants to Georgia from states like New York, Illinois, and Michigan are too stupid to realize WHY their states had the high taxes and bad job markets and high rents. They don’t get the correlation, and that likely has more to do with the “My side, your side,” of modern politics as opposed to previous generation’s realpolitik understanding of politics in which they were more fluid.

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      • I’d say 50/50 split was the best they could hope for — Insider Trading Barbie wasn’t going back, even if a resurrected Reagan was going for term 3 atop the ticket.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Yep, Biden, Warnock and Ossof won the big prizes. But people seem to ignore that another congressional district was flipped, along with the 3rd and 4th largest counties (Gwinnett & Cobb) commissions being flipped, as were other elected offices in those counties – sheriffs, district attys, etc.

      Although he had a close race, Warnock is arguably the most popular elected person in GA. He’ll be on the ballot next year, which will certainly motivate the blue team (as if they needed more motivation). So I expect the ‘flipping’ trend to continue, and likely accelerate.

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      • Maybe, we’ll see. Trump was a massive drain on suburban voters, otoh, the summer protests and Defund the Police nonsense was a massive boon to him. So assuming those both take a backseat in 2022, it’s hard to predict how it shakes out. Cherokee and Forsyth will interesting to watch imo. They’re not going to flip, but the margins are everything. Do they stay where they are, or do they bounce back?

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        • unionjackgin

          Here is good data set to view. I am not a data analyst and I don’t know if you can only chalk this up to Trump. I also believe this is the real reason that the new laws are in place.

          The GOP over performed (+3 % vs 2016) in just 3 counties in the state. The Democrats over performed in +20 counties in 2020.

          Democrats even made gains in Cherokee, Forsyth and Hall. Those are still solidly GOP areas but they are also part of the fast growing suburban areas that are still reasonably affordable.

          https://data.redding.com/presidential-election-results-compare-2016-2020/

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          • I would suspect that’s because while turnout was up everywhere, the GOP was close to tapped out in some areas and didn’t have any way to over perform?

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            • unionjackgin

              Perhaps .. but the Democrats over performed in Cobb, Douglas, Gwinnett, Henry and Newton – all areas where they won in 2016. They were also halfway to over performance in Fulton and almost a 1 pt higher in DeKalb.

              When Stacy Abrams was on the Sway podcast she mentioned that a big part of the change from 2016 & 2018 is that about GA gained about 250,000 new AA voters with a large percent of them moving from other states.

              That trend is likely to continue. While many of them will probably move to those counties mentioned above, there could be a drift into the rest of the GOP suburban strongholds of Cherokee, Forsyth and Hall. It might not change the local government in the near future but losing 5-8 points every 2-4 years is not a good way to hang on to the statewide leadership.

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        • Moving the Allstar game will also be a boon to Pubs.

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  20. mp

    said by someone who really doesn’t understand how things work in Colorado

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  21. Scotty King

    I registered to vote long before there was an election, presented my ID to 2 ladies I have know all of their lives, and voted once and only once (in each election since). No problem.

    Why is it considered a big deal to just do the right thing?

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    • Nothing. But that ain’t the only right way to vote my man.

      That’s the whole point.

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    • PTC DAWG

      That’s too much to ask of some.

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    • Russ

      I agree with you on voter ID. The same issue has been debated here in Texas. However, I think the issue is access to the “proper” ID. I read an article here about how many hoops you have to jump through to get the ID and it was pretty dumb. They need to fix that part of it in my opinion, with more opportunities to get the ID.

      All the efforts to remove drop boxes or reduce the number of days for voting are just dumb in my opinion and are hard to justify. The entire point of our system is to make sure everyone votes and we should make it easier, not harder. But yes, I agree with having ID to make it secure. (Even though I don’t think fraud has ever occurred in any amount large enough to affect a national election.)

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  22. mwodieseldawg

    If UGA requires a vaccine passport or some other certificate of immunization will everyone here comply?

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  23. wts1976

    I think the primary difference between teh mississippi flag and the new voter law is that one is obviously racist and harmful to the black community and the other is a voting right law. When the voting rights law is compared to other states, it is very fair and more lenient in several areas. Take some time and google New York’s voting law and compare. Why is requiring a form of ID racist? This is the primary objection by the far left and the law passed is beign used as political fodder as usual.

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    • Let me see if I’ve got this straight:

      1. Trump loses Georgia and spends the rest of his term in office railing about non-existent, widespread voting fraud.
      2. Trump’s claims dominate both Senate runoff races. Republicans lose both races.
      3. Trump spends a great deal of effort lobbying Georgia politicians to overturn the election results, and when they refuse to do so, strongly condemned them and urged others to run for office.
      4. Said politicians see a huge drop in approval ratings from Republicans.

      With all of that as a backdrop, the response of the (Republican) Georgia Legislature and the (Republican) Governor is to pass a new voter law that is “very fair and more lenient”? Sure, bud.

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      • Derek

        and trump has said that he’s not happy with the law.

        So the ga legislature lost in every possible way.

        Good show!

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      • Well when you put it like that they just sound full of shit.

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      • timberridgedawg

        Abrams still hasn’t conceded from two years prior.

        That’s two elections in a row that turned into national shit storms.

        Both Abrams and Donald were FOS with their claims and stirring division within their respective parties so here we are. Did the Republicans use their majority influence to shape the bill? Most certainly. Is it Jim Crow 2.0? Not unless New York is as well. But ultimately the Democrats know this and the outrage is tool to pass a new Voting Rights bill in Congress where the Democratic party can shape it to their advantage where they own a majority.

        Two parties stirring up hate and division for political advantage.

        Will be interesting to see what the appetite is to screw with SEC football. that state NIL law passed with near unanimous support across both aisles because UGA football is the tie that binds both parties.

        Messing with the Braves in Cobb County is one thing, although the South Cobb zip code demographics most impacted are not the face of East Cobb. Those folks just get a refund on tickets. Yanking the SEC game is downtown and it will slam the city and the locals directly.

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        • Not germane to the discussion at all, but East Cobb is represented in Congress by a black woman.

          That will never not make me smile.

          (At least until redistricting, when that’s the first place they change, 100%)

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          • timberridgedawg

            Probably somewhat in part due to a general suburban dislike for Donald along with a poor candidate that had lost previously and had no business running again but Lucy is fairly centrist in her view points. She’ll probably continue to hold the seat if she runs in the middle.

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          • A black woman whose entire campaign message was that of endorsing gun control. In Newt Gingrich and Tom Price’s old district that went R+23 in 2016, no less!

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      • wts1976

        My main point is that this isn’t Jim Crow. It’s politics/jerry mandering (business as usual). The law has areas that are more lenient than other states.

        The Georgia law requires an ID, but it ultimately let’s you out of the requirement if you don’t have one. How’s that not lenient? New York, for example, doesn’t allow the food or dring in voting lines due to it taking advantage of it’s citizens.

        The main new restrictions are that voters now have only 11 weeks to mail in ballots, which is less than the 26 weeks that were available in 2020. It also ends sending out unsolicited applications, which was only done as a result of the COVID pandemic.

        Feeding people in line has to be outside of 150 feet, not a hardship. If you feel like you can’t go without eating for the amount of time it takes you to vote in your area, then you are perfect candidate for an absentee ballot.

        The new law requires the state to monitor polling locations to see if any have lines longer than an hour, or still have voters waiting in line for more than an hour after polls were supposed to close. In those cases, the state is required to either form new precinct locations to ease the strain or beef up the existing polling locations’ capacity to handle large numbers of voters. This applies specifically to populous precincts

        Trump didn’t do us any favors by convincing a lot of Georigans that the election was stolen. Like it or not, this may restore trust to those voters.

        Will voting be slightly more incovenient, yes. But if you think that White House reaction to it isn’t due to Georgia being a coing flip. Where are the condemnations of other states with similar laws?

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

          This is a reasoned take absent of the paternalistic racism displayed by many here. That automatically places it in the top-10% of comments today. Good work!

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  24. 3rdandGrantham

    Without commenting on George’s voting law, I will simply say that if Rob Manfred does not recind his membership at Augusta National, he is the biggest hypocrite of all time and clearly was only motivated by scoring political points.

    I seriously hope someone asks him that very question. Simply put, if Georgia doesn’t deserve the All-Star game, then surely Augusta National does not deserve to have Rob Manfred as a member either.

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  25. waltergeiger

    Soccer has slowly overtaken baseball as my #2 sport behind college football. so, it won’t be hard for me to never watch another MLB game again. i don’t miss the NBA or NFL either, fwiw.

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  26. Butler Reynolds

    The bill is pretty dumb, but it’s not Jim Crow 2.0. When you hear progressives squalling like that, your BS detector should start sounding quite loudly.

    I think the new rules would make no difference in election outcomes, but if the bill really does discourage lower-IQ voters from showing up, then you’d think this would affect Republicans more in the long run. They have been trying for years to become the party of low-status working-class voters.

    If the point is to add a little more complexity to the process to make a marginal difference in the turnout, this would be an advantage to Democrats: Socialists are good a creating and navigating bureaucratic complexity. They will organize and find a way to get their low-IQ voters to the polls. Republicans are not community organizers of that sort.

    Just like their support for Donald Trump, this is a pretty stupid strategy. Getting Trump elected handed Washington over to the Biden and his collection of wackadoodles. Stuff like this dumb bill will put Stacey Abrams in office. Get ready for higher taxes, more traffic, and lots of choo-choo train construction!

    With Georgia turning blue, neighboring states could really find themselves in a much better competitive position when trying to attract business and quality residents.

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  27. MGW

    You can’t take politics out of sports…. I’m not one to just shout “stick to sports” whenever some political issue comes up that gets in the way of my fun. But Kirby is a single coach of the 14 in the conference, none of whom has direct control over the issue which isn’t even before the SEC yet.

    In my opinion, asking him about that at this point is over the line, and strictly an attempt to make news by catching a high profile coach off guard on a sticky issue. Excuse the pun but Kirby is too smart for that so it was never going to work on him, but screw that reporter. THAT calls for a justified “stick to sports!”

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  28. Biggen

    So some people are made because you have to show I.D. to vote? Unreal. You have to show I.D. to order alcohol, open a bank account, and board an airplane.

    I don’t understand why this is an issue. It prevents voter fraud. How does the left guarantee that people can’t vote more than once if they don’t have to show I.D.? The honor system??

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    • Sorry, are you saying that the new bill introduced the concept of Voter ID to Georgia?

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      • Biggen

        Maybe I’m an idiot and don’t’ know what I’m talking about then. What I’ve read states that the bill requires a ID to vote and that is a sticking point with some who think it prevents those without an ID to vote. Maybe I fell victim to the fake news. We are so damn busy down here in PCB I can barely keep my head above water to check your blog!

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        • You’re not an idiot, but if you haven’t read the bill, you don’t know what the real concern is.

          The most pernicious part of the law isn’t Voter ID, or the idiotic ban on water/food to people in line to vote. It’s giving the legislature control over the state’s Election Board, and, through that, the ability to remove local election officials and replace them with people of their own choosing. (Before you say “cool” to that, consider what might happen if the legislature turns blue.)

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          • otto1980

            This is another reason as a life long Republican to vote against Trumplicans, the legislature should not have control over the Election board. They are also masters at rallying their base which reads their talking points but doesn’t dig deep. Find an easy message and blast it nonstop. If someone brings up another point double down on it. I know all politicians do it but Trumplicans take it to the next level.

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            • originaluglydawg

              Oh, horse shit.

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              • otto1980

                Thank you for proving my point, you go on and on about jumping through hoops to vote absentee, and praise those who say if voting is important then get out and vote. Preaching the sanctity of voting.

                However your posts completely ignore that the bill allows for for a partisan legislature can take over an election board nullify your argument.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            Senator, there is no “ban on water and food” for people in line to vote. There is a ban on using water and food for electioneering purposes, meaning people affiliated with campaigns can’t give people food or water.

            That is a complete fabrication.

            However, your other point is a good one.

            It just goes to show that there’s so many lies being told about this law, that it obscures the facts. On both sides.

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          • This is all: “The most pernicious part of the law isn’t Voter ID, or the idiotic ban on water/food to people in line to vote. It’s giving the legislature control over the state’s Election Board, and, through that, the ability to remove local election officials and replace them with people of their own choosing.”

            Read this again slowly for comprehension. If the local control provision is removed, the bill is fairly innocuous. Or the legislature should ubermensch up and just over the whole process. God knows, counties have a hard time doing the voting thing. It’s expensive and a lot like roping goats. But does the state really want to worry about whether there’s a water cooler at the polling place in Lickskillet, Recovery, or Pin Point? Or whether there’s a polling place there at all? Careful what you wish for…

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          • Butler Reynolds

            The incompetence is real with some of these local election boards, but like you said, I wonder how they’re going to feel about this power once Stacey Abrams is queen bee in the governor’s mansion.

            Not to worry. Hypocrisy and flip-flopping are not things politicians lose sleep
            over.

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            • Speaking of flip-flops, Georgia’s been a one-party state for more than two decades. The legal framework for voting was designed and built by Republicans, who, up until the last election results, were quite happy with what they had fashioned.

              All it took were demographic changes in metro Atlanta, particularly in Cobb and Gwinnett Counties, along with organizations like Abrams’ figuring out how to work the system to send the legislature and governor into a panic. This time. The demographics aren’t going away and Abrams isn’t getting stupider. Makes you wonder what the next set of changes are gonna look like.

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        • You are getting an inaccurate picture of what the law does and why people are upset.

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    • Derek

      If’n georgia’s wrong to put the candidates names on the ballot, well I just don’t want to be right you damn woke libtards!!!

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    • I’m just glad they worked so hard to solve that non existent voter fraud problem.

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    • hialtdawg

      Economically, we literally have citizens of ALL demographics that do not bank, fly on planes nor buy alcohol. They still deserve to vote don’t they.

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  29. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  30. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

      Yep. That one day was terrible. No one but nut jobs are saying otherwise.

      However, we had months of this below, causing billions of dollars in property loss and damage to mostly black-owned businesses and neighborhoods by BLM and Antifa in Minneapolis, Portland, Chicago, Atlanta, and other cities, including over 50 murders, and almost half the people in the country are still excusing it. In fact, some politicians seemed to revel in it.

      I don’t remember you condemning it.

      https://www.voanews.com/usa/minnesota-calls-national-guard-quell-violent-protests-minneapolis

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      • Derek

        Reacting to actual police brutality on tape is exactly the same as reacting to lies and bullshit.

        If you’re fucktarded.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

          Yes, because burning down black businesses and black neighborhoods and causing billions of dollars in damages over the course of months and murdering over 50 people in that time…

          … that’s a completely reasonable response. Racist.

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          • Derek

            Was the boston tea party reasonable?

            Was the American Revolution reasonable?

            My personal view is that the oppressed will eventually react, sometimes violently.

            Isn’t placing those in charge in reasonable fear the impetus for the second amendment?

            I don’t require the oppressed to sing kumbaya in the face of tyrants.

            It wasn’t non-violent protesting that got the Brits out of America.

            It wasn’t non-violent protesting that got the Brits out of 3/4’s of Ireland. 1/4 to go….

            Both required killing Brits by the bushel.

            Why should I hold anyone else to higher standards?

            You want to stop riots?

            Stop killing people under color of law. See how much that helps.

            Btw: if Louis Farrakhan (or any other black leader) did what Trump did and got a similar reaction, he’d be in prison for life.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

              So many lies, so much bullshit.

              How do you keep it all straight in your head, Derek?

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              • Derek

                By being right.

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              • It’s easy. My side good, your side bad.

                If my side riots, it’s justified. If your side riots, it’s not justified. Easy peasy.

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                • Raleighwood Dawg

                  The same fucking shit can be said to you and Corch.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  Your reading comprehension needs some work.

                  I just said what happened on January 6th was terrible. It’s what I’ve always said.

                  I’m remarkably consistent in saying that, and I’ve yet to find a Republican in Congress who’s said any different.

                  Now compare that to Democrats in Congress who were silent or egging on the months of rioting last year, the billions in damage to mostly black businesses and black neighborhoods in our cities across the country, and oh yeah, the over 50 MURDERS all committed by BLM and Antifa.

                  Compare that to the media who were silent about or egging on the riots.

                  Shit, compare it with some of the people here.

                  Why is it only bad when the people you don’t like riot for one day, but it’s okay for the people you like riot for months and cause 100 times the damage and 10 times the death?

                  You got problems, man. So many problems.

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                • I’m remarkably consistent in saying that, and I’ve yet to find a Republican in Congress who’s said any different.

                  Corch, let me introduce you to Senator Ron Johnson.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  What an asshole.

                  Okay, that’s one. One versus a multitude on the other side who egged on and even in some cases praised riots by BLM and Antifa.

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  31. Greg

    One way to keep the blog bizzy…..

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  32. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  33. unionjackgin

    Can they stem the tide of demographics? Probably not … but the new law does try to make it difficult for a certain area.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/12/15/black-eligible-voters-have-accounted-for-nearly-half-of-georgia-electorates-growth-since-2000/

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  34. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  35. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

    Someone please explain how needing to prove you are who you say you are in order to vote through an ID or SSN Card is racist, especially in a state that will provide you a picture ID for free, and that the areas to get those free IDs are far more plentiful in areas where minorities live than where rural white people live (meaning the rural white people have to drive further from home to get them).

    I’ll wait and let you expose yourself for being racist with your bigotry of low expectations as you try to answer that question.

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    • Derek

      How did we have elections before photography?

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

        I asked a very specific question. I will not play your straw man bullshit.

        Please answer my question, Derek. Prove you’re a racist with bigotry of low expectations, like I fully believe you be.

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      • Texas Dawg

        How did we have elections before early voting?

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    • Derek

      A poll tax isn’t per se racist.

      It was implemented to create an outcome that was racist in its intent.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

        Please answer my specific question. I will not play your straw man bullshit.

        Prove you are who I know you are, or prove me wrong.

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        • Derek

          Apparently you’re not interested in an answer.

          For those who are, statistically people who vote for Democrats are slightly less likely to possess the required ID. It is for that reason alone that it has become a requirement.

          It isn’t about election integrity. We know that because democracy existed well before photography.

          The ancient greeks had elections without driver’s licenses and state id’s.

          Somehow…. Someway.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            Thank you for proving you’re a racist, Derek.

            You believe black and latino people are too something (poor, lazy, stupid, ignorant…?) to get a FREE government picture ID or have a SSN Card.

            You are exactly who I thought you are.

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            • Derek

              Its not what I think. Your folks ran the numbers and reacted accordingly.

              If you think they’d have come up with Voter ID laws had it affected Republican turn out well you’re who I think you are:

              Not very bright, but very confident of the opposite.

              Dangerous combo.

              Btw: your lack of intellectual courage in failing to address pre-photography democracy is noted as is your simultaneous and hypocritical demand for straight answers.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                Your continued line of bullshit doesn’t detract from the person who you are, deep down inside, Derek. You believe black people or latinos are too poor, stupid, lazy, ignorant, or whatever to be able to go get a free government picture ID or have a SSN Card.

                You’re a racist due to your bigotry of low expectations. It’s who you are, and I thank you for letting us all know so we know exactly what’s in your heart.

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                • Derek

                  Racists always want the voices of those they hate heard.

                  I think the Klan started as a means to get out the black vote.

                  Because they were racist.

                  I’d call you stupid but I won’t for two reasons:

                  1) the host wouldn’t approve
                  2) i’d be insulting stupid people.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  That not just who “racists” are, Derek. Racists also hold beliefs like you do, that black people or latino people are lesser. That they cannot be held to the same standards as white people or asian people or jewish people. That they are too poor, or stupid, or lazy, or ignorant and must be taken care of by a beneficial government or by the white media or kindly white people like you.

                  Your racism may not be overt with you wearing a white hood Derek, but your racism is far more insidious. Your racism is the racism of Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon, who used the power of the government to incentivize poverty in the black community to grow government control over their lives by increasing single motherhood and absentee fathers. Who wrecked their communities with punitive drug laws.

                  Did you know that a black family with a married mother and father are less likely to be living in poverty than a white family with a married mother and father? It’s true. 11% to 14%. However, since 1968 black kids are far more likely to grow up with a single mother and absentee father and live in abject poverty because racists like you want them indebted to the one party that supports unrestrained and unelected federal bureaucracy.

                  My eyes were opened by Thomas Sowell. While I may not agree with him about everything, as he is too conservative in many social views, he opened my eyes to the kinds of racists like you. I too was once naive and believed the only racists wore white hoods or were skinheads. Now I see racism takes many forms, and your paternalism is the most insidious of them all.

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                • Derek

                  As usual, you’re just wrong.

                  I am well aware of the soft racism of low expectations. I am well aware of those who don’t hate but also don’t expect equality.

                  That is not me nor what drives me. What animates me is any tool used by the entrenched powers to keep those without power, without power.

                  They use clever sophistry to convince the not terribly smart people to go along with them.

                  The problem with the Sowell’s and his adherents is that I cant make sense of is this inconsistency:

                  Conservative Premise:

                  Liberals think blacks are stupid and their economic interests, etc… would really be served better by conservatives.

                  Question:

                  So why do blacks vote over 90% of the time for liberals? Is it because they’re stupid?

                  Conservatives:

                  Crickets….

                  You can’t have it both ways. Either they know whats best for them and the numbers speak for themselves OR you have to believe that they don’t know whats good for them.

                  So whose being paternalistic?

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    • Don in Mar-a-Lago

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    • debbybalcer

      How does a ssn prove you are the person who was issued the number, plus ssn are not supposed to be used that way?My mother in law o longer has a valid photo id from SC. She does not drive and the idcard she had has expired. Getting her to the dmv where they issue them is not easy as she is 88 and no very mobile. Fortunately she has a military picture ID that does not expire. DMV offices are not easily accessible to those who do not drive. Access to photo ID should be improved if you are going to require someone to have it in order to vote.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

        You do realize that’s not actually true for the minorities living in metro Atlanta, right? There are DMVs and other offices all around Atlanta to get a FREE ID. The people this actually hurts are the rural, mostly white people who do have to drive much longer to get to get a photo ID. So how would you improve getting an ID? It’s already free. It’s already far easier to get to for areas that are majority minority compared to areas that are rural and majority white.

        What else do you propose? Unless what you’re really saying is, like Derek, you believe black and latino people are lesser, and should not be held to the same standards as white, asian, and jewish people. I would hope that’s not what you’re saying Debby, because I really don’t want to believe you think in that way. You seem to be pleasant and nice.

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        • How do you get an ID if you don’t have a birth certificate?

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          • Are we thinking black people are hatched?

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            And why would you assume black people or latino people who are citizens would not have either an SSN card or a birth certificate?

            Am I being Punk’d?

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            • First off, I don’t recall mentioning ethnicity. Second, it’s pretty well known that record keeping in rural areas before WW2 was shoddy, to say the least.

              There are plenty of Georgia residents over 75 who can’t produce the necessary records.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                So then you’re helping me make my argument that people these new ID rules are hardest on are rural white people? Fair enough.

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                • Where did I mention white people?

                  You know, for somebody who’s quick to accuse folks of racism, you sure seem sensitive about it.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  No, my problem are with racists hiding among us thinking their paternalism is the same as “do-goodery” because they know best what minority black and brown people need while then “reclassifying” other minorities as white because they’re “too successful,” which is even more racist.

                  I’m just tired of actual racism. Voter ID laws aren’t racist, and saying they are keeps exposing so many people for their racism, which, at the end of the day is good. Now we know who they are.

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                • When you get to set the definitions, it’s hard to lose an argument. LOL.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  I’m not the one setting the definitions, I’m reacting to the insanity of the Wokeists, those playing identity politics and intersectionalism and how THEY set the definitions.

                  Like the Smithsonian releasing collateral that says “whiteness” is defined by concepts like “individuality” or “hard work.”

                  Like Joe Biden’s woke handlers having him keep on repeating the phrase Jim Crow 2.0 in a gross misunderstanding of historical fact.

                  Like Harvard making it far more difficult for asian Americans to earn he right to attend their school by reclassifying them as white because they’re too successful.

                  Like white people assuming that black and brown people are too “something” to be able to find a way to get a free government ID.

                  I’m not the one setting the definitions, Senator. I’m reacting to the insanity around us.

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              • Former Fan

                Are they allowed to buy a gun without an ID? It’s a constitutional right too.

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                • Former Fan

                  LOL! That’s a great line in a great movie Senator. But it doesn’t the point doesn’t it. For some reason, we think it is so bad to have IDs to make sure we have a clean election and very little cheating, but we demand IDs because we don’t want people cheating with guns, or lying about their intentions for travel, and so on.

                  The whole “its racists” or “wrong” to require IDs for voting is a weak argument so long as we demand them for life in general and other constitutional rights.

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                • I don’t have a problem with photo ID per se.

                  I have a problem with people who think the objections to the new law are based on photo ID.

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                • I don’t think the other leftists have gotten the memo that it’s not the photo ID requirement that we’re objecting to. That and the ban on water are getting the most press.

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                • You and I must read different sources. The legislature usurping control from local election boards is getting a lot of attention. Photo ID is nothing new; the power grab is.

                  If you take the trouble to read the law in its entirety, it’s engineered to create a situation justifying the legislature’s intervention.

                  I doubt we’ll see a single prosecution for the water/food ban. But I bet we’ll see that cited as a reason local election boards have to be replaced.

                  Again, I thought you were smarter than this.

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                • Ditto. Worrying about centralized power over elections is intelligent. Claiming that black people don’t have birth certificates isn’t.

                  Although I very much doubt that most of the people fretting over the centralization of Georgia’s new law are similarly concerned over H.R.1.

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                • The problem isn’t that the power is being centralized. It’s that it’s partisan controlled.

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                • And local election boards aren’t partisan?

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                • In the same way that members of the legislature have a vested interest in the outcome of an election? Nope.

                  All you have to do is compare the way local boards handled the 2020 elections and the way members of the General Assembly tried to discredit the process to see the difference.

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                • Sure man. People complain about things they don’t like. State legislators do that just like county officials do.

                  Partisanship exists outside Atlanta, within Washington DC, and even in blue counties. Unless you’ve got a plan for changing human nature, you’re just debating over frying pan vs fire.

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  36. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  37. Former Fan

    Yea… showing an ID to board an airplane, to own a gun, to drive a car, to vote is racist. IMO, the idea that any minority can’t get a photo ID to vote is racists.

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    • Derek

      Is a poll tax racist?

      How are they different?

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

        How are they different? Hmm. One makes you give money to vote. The other says you have to produce a FREE ID in order to vote.

        One costs money. The other does cost money.

        I may not be racist like you Derek, but I think I can understand how FREE versus NOT FREE is different. But keep going with your logical fallacies.

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        • Derek

          If the only reason you’re doing it is to achieve a race based outcome it is racist.

          That is the essential point. What is the motive?

          It can’t be integrity because we had elections without photo ID for centuries.

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      • Former Fan

        If voter ID is racist, then so is Delta for requiring a ID to board a plane. Then our gun laws are racists for requiring a valid ID to exercise a constitutional right. IDs are great for security in voting and for Delta and for gun ownership.

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        • debbybalcer

          The poor are not generally flying.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            Are they using credit cards?

            Are they buying alcohol or cigarettes?

            Are they going to a clinic or a doctor?

            Are they going to a pharmacy to buy certain OTC medicines or pick up an Rx?

            Are they driving or buying a car?

            Are they applying for bank loan to buy a car?

            Are they applying for jobs?

            Are they applying for food stamps or other forms of welfare?

            Are they applying for Medicaid?

            Are they applying for unemployment?

            Are they entering into any lease agreement?

            Are they getting married?

            Are they trying to legally purchase a firearm?

            Are they applying for a fishing or hunting license?

            Are they ever getting a motel or hotel?

            Are they buying a cell phone?

            Are they going to a casino?

            Are they buying lottery tickets?

            Are people doing ANY of these things? Your bigotry of low expectations is showing Debby, and it’s not a good look on you.

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  38. unionjackgin

    Just so I understand … you have to be registered to vote in order to get the Free ID? One of the requirements of getting the Free ID may involve having a photo ID or an approved non-photo identity document which is listed on the Sec of State site. Plus you have already be registered to vote.

    GEORGIA’S VOTER IDENTIFICATION CARD

    If you do not have one of the six acceptable forms of photo ID, the State of Georgia offers a free ID Card. An ID card can be issued at any county registrar’s office or Department of Driver Services Office free of charge.

    To receive a voter identification card, the voter must provide:

    A photo identity document or approved non-photo identity document that includes full legal name and date of birth
    Documentation showing the voter’s date of birth
    Evidence that the applicant is a registered voter
    Documentation showing the applicant’s name and residential address

    https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/georgia_voter_identification_requirements2

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    • unionjackgin

      What I meant to say is that the list of approved non-photo identity documents that shows full legal name and date of birth is NOT listed on the same Sec of State site.

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  39. Charles Jackson

    Why would the SEC feel the need to move the game out of ATL?

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  40. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

    Hey, so something I thought the Senator would want to talk about, but I guess not, considering he’s a subscriber to The Athletic:

    The Athletic is in serious trouble. I mean SERIOUS trouble. Why?

    Well, to use an oft-used phrase: Get woke, go broke.

    It seems that under Stew Mandel’s “brilliant” leadership, The Athletic decided to follow the same model that’s seen the NBA lose half their viewership and ESPN to continue to lose paying customers by becoming a super-woke, hard Leftist publication that has predictably pissed off most of their subscribers.

    The Athletic started as an amazing place to get sports news at a time when the other place to get sports news decided to become a one-sided political organization. Then in the summer the NBA held their training camps in China at the time of an ongoing genocide and China violated the treaty they signed with Britain about Hong Kong and the Rockets GM made the what should not have been at all controversial statement that he stood with the people of Hong Kong, The Athletic decided then and there that they would also become a one-sided political organization.

    In response to what happened, The Athletic printed literal CCP propaganda to subscribers and then cut off commenting about it once subscribers revolted. Then after George Floyd’s regrettable and preventable murder, they went full-in on BLM without questioning at all the motivations behind BLM, because while black lives matter (of course they do!), BLM is a Marxist organization with the aims of turning the United States into a one-party authoritarian government and upending “Western” culture and values like individual rights and democratic governments.

    Their writers became so overtly political, and anyone who disagreed with them were banned from commenting, so people started turning off their auto-renewal of their subscriptions last summer.

    It got so bad that after this happened, The Athletic began selling itself at the cost of $1 a month for an entire year to new subscribers. You can see now that they are again offering the same deal.

    This is a business that has not turned a single profit in over 5 years. They are top-heavy on writers contracts and they are bleeding subscribers who, at least half, have turned off their auto-rentals because of the one-sided political commentary that has taken over the site.

    So now they are looking for a bailout from Axios. Why?

    Because the woke people, the authoritarian Leftists who scream the loudest on Twitter, who helped cost Atlanta the All-Star Game, don’t actually care about sports. They’re not buying subscriptions to The Athletic. They’re not watching the NBA. They won’t be watching MLB. They don’t actually do anything other than scream on Twitter, where 95% of all traffic is driven by only 2% of Americans.

    So these companies and these organizations keep making concessions to make the lunatic fringe on Twitter happy, and in doing so, they piss off the majority of their actual customers who aren’t on Twitter and don’t spend their lives on social media.

    Enjoy The Athletic while you can, if you’re still among those who enjoy it, because through sheer and utter stupidity and mismanagement by Stew Mandel as EiC who decided to steer that ship right into the woke iceberg and provide only an one-sided viewpoint and making EVERYTHING political when their actual subscribers wanted an escape from politics, they have signed their own death warrant.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanberr/2021/03/28/axios-the-athletic-in-preliminary-merger-talks/

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  41. PTC DAWG

    278 comments and still ROLLing…..I’m out.

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  42. originaluglydawg

    Voted absentee when I was in Vietnam. I was required to jump through so many hoops (including filling out my ballot in front of an officer) that I almost gave up. In the end, I was convinced that a little inconvenience was worth it. It must have taken me fifteen or twenty minutes.
    Good thing the military furnished us all with an ID because we were all too stupid to have one otherwise ,especially the black dudes (according to the howling being put out by the bit dogs). Hell, hundreds of thousands of us GIs and not a single one with a Drivers License.
    This isn’t about making it harder to vote. It’s about making it harder to cheat..and THAT is what the bit dog (as Corch said earlier) is really howling about. I don’t believe for a minute that anyone opposed to this law is stating the real reason for that opposition. Yeah…I’m saying you’re lying.
    You know it’s a reasonable law. Yes you do.
    The Senator seems more concerned about sock puppet posters (required and verified email to post with a check on your URL) than he is about sock puppet voters.
    Some consistency and honesty from the left is too much to expect.

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    • The Senator seems more concerned about sock puppet posters (required and verified email to post with a check on your URL) than he is about sock puppet voters.

      LOL. I have no idea what one has to do with the other, but it’s a good sound bite.

      As far as measuring concern, though, I’ve read the 90+ page bill in its entirety. Have you?

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    • So that’s why the state legislature needs the ability to take over local election boards?

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    • Illini84

      You were old enough to vote! Shit, I couldn’t vote for 15 months after I came home. Oh, I’m opposed to the law(s) because they make it harder for people to vote too. And, with all due respect, screw you and all this “howling” bullshit.

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    • TN Dawg

      Lol! So true.

      An ID to comment, but not to vote.

      It’s basically the Democrat platform as imposed by Facebook and Twitter!

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    • Did you go the full measure and vote for Nixon too…?

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  43. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  44. TN Dawg

    Kirby needs to speak out on Jim Crow 2.0.

    His silence is violence.

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  45. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  46. You know guys, it’s possible to say that this bill is not Jim Crowe 2.0 but is based upon a lie that the election was stolen from Trump and won’t make any difference next year

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  48. Biggen

    Does our poor fearless blog leader take a day off work every Wednesday and shift through all this muck! It’s no wonder I stay out of this thread most of the time (especially when I don’t know what I’m talking about in the first place)!

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  49. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  50. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  51. TN Dawg

    I know if so were recruiting against Georgia for a player, I’d be pointing out that Kirby seems to be good with this legal change.

    He hasn’t taken a hard stance on it.

    He appears to be fine with Jim Crow laws.

    I mean our President has condemned these changes, as have major league sports.

    And yet the wealthy, white male coach seems to be in agreement with silencing minority votes.

    Shame on Kirby.

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    • TN Dawg

      It sure is fun to stir up a bunch of racial animus toward Texas and Mississippi.

      But Kirby sits silent while millions of black voices are shut out of the American voting system. He’s the highest paid man in the Georgia government, the racist Georgia state government. And he just collects his millions while black and brown people are oppressed.

      He may as well have shot Emmett Till.

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  52. Someone base jumped out of a condo here. I think that’s made my 2021.

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  53. Teacher Martin

    People could say everything they have said on this thread without the disparaging remarks. That’s one of the main problems. If someone writes something you don’t agree with, just question their IQ. They obviously are not as smart as I am, because they have a differing opinion. Some people need to grow up! Honest, thoughtful, and civil debate is lacking and it’s destroying us.

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  54. mddawg

    I know I’m way late to the party here, but all of the comments about voter ID reminded me of the video below.

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  55. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

    For gatriguy:

    I may not have an overarching problem with the law passed in the law passed in the GA Legislature, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a problem with certain specifics, or wouldn’t if Dems were in control and did similar pieces of wankery as they will do in the US Congress. My problem with politics is politics itself. Look at what’s happened to our country over the last 25 or so years.

    Social Conservative nutjobs actually won. They sold out their conservative values and attached themselves to big government intrusion into people’s personal lives, they used fear to gin up votes, and they won. They beat the liberals. And in response, the liberals, most of them, became just as radical as the social conservatives. Now they’ve abandoned their principles of individual rights and equality and champion Marxist ideals like equity and curtailing individual rights to benefit the few. And then the response to that Woke nonsense was 4 years of Trump. And then the response to 4 years of Trump is even more authoritarian Woke nonsense in the form of all these super-Woke handlers who prop up Weekend at Bidens and feed him lines to mouth.

    We’re in a downward, spiral man. I blame Newt. If he just would’ve let Clinton diddle interns uninterrupted, I think we ultimately would’ve been okay. Gore wins in 2000. Someone way better than W wins in 2004 and 2008. Their VP wins in 2012 or Obama does. And right now, we’re doing okay.

    There’s no more balance. While there may not be an actual Civil War II, the rhetoric happening in our country right now has a definite Antebellum feel to it. It’s nasty. It’s pointed. It’s full of hate and vitriol, and like during that time, there is definitely one side that is far worse than the other. And that’s the side I ultimately oppose.

    However, that doesn’t blind me to the terrible portions or players on the other side, either.

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    • RangerRuss

      This cuntry won’t continue on like this.
      “Because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.”
      You know who said that. Shit, man, it may not even be foreigners. Just a tougher crowd that bitch slaps our woke military and turns the guns on our citizenry. It’s inevitable. Kids can’t run a school, crazies can’t run an asylum and candy asses can’t run a country.
      The best we can hope for is the means to produce and distribute food and necessary medical supplies remains intact. Tyranny is the future of this society. Stupidity and soft men will be the reason.

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      • Don in Mar-a-Lago

        Many people said “candy asses can’t run a country” so they voted me out. Even though the election was very heavily rigged in my favor – and I moved on it like a bitch – I still couldn’t pull off the steal. But after some R & R and I & I, I’ll be tanned, rested and ready to be back in the saddle again for the 2024 festivities.

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        • RangerRuss

          Did you ever get those bones spurs seen about, Don? Maybe have that hairy, bulbous, malignant-looking, twelve pound orange growth on your neck looked at also you philandering, fat fuck.
          Get a job.

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