Okay, but what has he done for us lately?

This is pretty interesting.  David Wunderlich explores the question of the solidity of the foundation Dan Mullen has built at Florida.  He starts by noting that the Gators have finished in the top 15 of the AP Poll for three consecutive seasons, something that hadn’t happened since Corch’s day.  He then goes on to compare that with the number of times peer programs can make the same claim, which is where he buries the true lede in one sentence.

Kirby Smart has put the Bulldogs in the top ten in four straight years[Emphasis added.]

Yeah, but if Kirby blah, blah, blah this season, then questions blah, blah, blah.

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  1. Handbags are so stupid and shallow. You could make the case that the last 4 years of Georgia football are only surpassed by 1980-83 and possibly 1941-46 and 2002-05.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Agree, but I would extend the 1940s golden era to include the 1948 SEC champions as well.

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    • 81Dog

      It took Nick more than 5 years as, a HC to win a title. It took Irvin Meyers more than 5 years. It took Spurrier more than 5. It took Bowden more than 5. It took Dabo more than 5.

      Good things come to those who wait, if they work like hell while they’re waiting. Kirby is working. And while lots of programs are working against him, he’s operating at a high level and learning as he goes. If I was every other program, I’d be hoping this isn’t the year it all clicks into place for UGA. FTMFs. 🙂

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  2. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

    As impatient as I may be getting about winning a national title, or not in our case, I really don’t understand this lunacy from the CFB media that has spread like wildfire, and I’m 99% certain started by Matt Hayes over at SDS, that if Kirby doesn’t win it all this year he never will.

    This is year 6. It took Dabo 8 years. It’s not quite yet time to start panicking like the media seems to want us to do.

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    • 007dawg

      I’ll say if CKS hasn’t won it by year 10, it will be doubtful he ever will.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

        That’s been my artificial barrier as well. We have Richt 15 years, I don’t see how Kirby gets one season after 10.

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        • ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

          Guys, how long did it take Vince to win a natty? 17 years?

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            It’s not the same world now as it was then.

            If we’re honest with ourselves, and the media tends to be in this area more than we are (Andy Staples the most), then there is no good reason why we haven’t won a National Title in the last 20 years. This state, with its natural font of talent, with a fanbase who gives as much as we do… our crappy Admin and our coaches have had to try real hard to not win a national title in the last 20 years. They’ve had to do things like not being able to beat a mediocre Floriduh team coach by Zook, or lose to the second worst SEC team at home, or not call for a spike in the SEC title games, or nickel and dime every single facilities need, or not pony up to keep good coaches at the going rate.

            From Dooley, to Evans, to McGarrity, our Admin artificially tied our program’s hands behind our backs, and Richt had the knack to either not get his team up to play in every game or to make the worst possible decision at the worst possible moment, something Kirby also seems to do from time to time.

            We’ve had to try real hard not to win one single national title the last 20 years.

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            • I would agree with your assessment of the last 20 years. My only nitpick would be that the ADs didn’t necessarily tie our hands behind our back (although you could make the case McGarity did with a couple of high-profile compliance cases) … the common thread among those ADs was the jackass that sat in the President’s office at the time … Il Duce Michael Adams.

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              • ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

                ^^This!!

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                People romanticize Dooley, but as good as he was at picking coaches for the Olympic Sports, but he was a skinflint. A cheapskate. A penny-pincher.

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                • I guess if Dooley was such a cheapskate, why did Adams push him out? Said differently, if Dooley were just a stooge doing what Adams wanted, why did Adams make it a point to send Dooley off when Dooley appealed to stay on because he believed Red Panties wasn’t ready to take the reins yet?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  He can be a cheapskate (he was) and still at odds with Michael Adams. One has nothing to do with the other.

                  It had nothing to do with how good or bad Dooley was at his job. They hated each other. Period.

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              • rugbydawg79

                Amen !

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          • Completely different game, completely different sport.

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        • stoopnagle

          I give him until one year after Saban leaves Alabama.

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            Hah! Considering that Saban is the youngest-looking almost-70 year old I’ve ever seen in my entire life, that’s a long way off.

            Seriously, compare the way Saban looks right now to the way JoPa looked at the same age. You’d think they were two different species.

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          • Down Island Way

            If CKS doesn’t have college football to himself before little nicky retires, he’ll definitely own it after wards…..

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      • I think the only real way to tell if Kirby has missed his window is when the recruiting drops off. When or if that happens, it can be fair to say he missed his window. Arbitrary numbers don’t really work here.

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        • Ding, ding, ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

          As long as Kirby continues to bring in deep, balanced high school talent, the national championship window will be open. I would suggest Dopey is on a MUCH shorter leash than Kirby given his inability to recruit top talent from the high school ranks (I would even challenge whether he’s really the Portal Master).

          What will sink Kirby is if the top in-state high school talent begins to question whether UGA is the best place for them (see Watson, Deshaun and Lawrence, Trevor for some really good examples).

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  3. argondawg

    As long as they are fine with top15 finishes that will be perfectly fine. They can hang out in that area like we did for a decade. they will be good enough to beat us every so often but not good enough to challenge for much else. I think the portal master is the perfect coach for them.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

      Ever may he reign down there in Jortsville!

      Seriously though, his mouth is going to get him fired there sooner or later, and if not exactly fired, then asked to leave. Their Admin and a lot of fans were pretty fed-up with him after 2020, and in that year he beat the crap out of us and won the East.

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      • argondawg

        Exactly. Maybe the most explosive offensive team to ever go 8-4 in the SEC and get worse as the season went on. They gave Bama all they wanted and quit in their bowl game. It was a solid year. heh

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      • RangerRuss

        For all the righteous shit slung Ray Goff’s way for misusing Terrell Davis you’d think Cousin Eddie would be pilloried the same for starting Goat Boy over Trashk. Hell, I’d rate it as a much more egregious error as without Franks injury Trask might have rode the pine his entire gaytard career. Mullen’s flaws are mostly personality based and will always be an impediment to his coaching success. Kirby’s flaws are experience related. Those will work themselves out and I trust he’ll bring IT home for us sooner rather than later.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          You raised the point I always thought. Why would a QB genius start Franks over Trask in the first place?

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          • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

            Tell that to any ‘turd you know and watch their heads explode.

            It’s a fun game to play whenever they talk about how Kirby doesn’t develop players.

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    • ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

      The portal master is the best coach for them to have FOR US. He’s a loser.

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      • Bulldawg Bill

        That’s because of Grantham.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

          Big time. I was scared that Sideshow Dan the Clown would wise-up and fire Grantham and replace him with Charlie Strong.

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          • Has Charlie Strong become the modern day version of Brian Van Gorder?

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

              I think he can still coach a defense. He was just an average head coach that got way in over his head at Texas, whose fans and boosters make us look positively normal by comparison.

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            • Munsoning

              That’s an interesting comparison. Haven’t followed CS’s career closely enough to answer your question intelligently, ee. Meyer hired him to coach LBs in Jax, so he hasn’t fallen to BVG’s level yet. In 10 years as a HC Strong had three good seasons–two at Louisville and one at USF. His career HC record is 74-53. So if he’s good at anything, it’s coaching defense.

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              • siskey

                I am wrong about a lot but I was really wrong about Charlie Strong. I was very fearful that he would take the Florida or Auburn job and dominate us for years. I don’t know why he didn’t do more at Texas and think that Corch is at least partly correct about how messed up things are in Austin. Maybe he will redeem himself in Jacksonville and take over as the interim when Urban has health issues about game 7-8 in the 2022 season.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2024)

                  I mean, when he was at Louisville he did well. A lot of that was about having a good QB, but man, that’s anywhere and everywhere in CFB.

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                • Munsoning

                  I’d forgotten how bad Charlie’s Texas teams were. Didn’t have a winning record in three seasons. 6-7, 5-7, 5-7. Herman was a massive upgrade–7-6 his first year, but 10-4, 8-5, 7-3 after that–and he still got fired.

                  Guess who else Meyer hired? Schotty, as passing game coordinator. Man, Jax is going to be bad next season. I might tune in a couple of times just to see ’em get thumped by whatever other teams are in whatever division they’re in. Good call on the health issues. They’re a-looming.

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          • Bulldawg Bill

            I’m taking up a collection for the CTG Bonus and Salary Supplement (BASS) Fund. How much can I put you down for, Corch???

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      • rugbydawg79

        He is perfect for them…the Cuz Eddie look, the way he conducts himself. We couldn’t draw up a more perfect coach for them. FTMF’S forever !

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  4. dman2020

    I kind of like where we as fans are now. Instead of every year dreaming it would sure be nice to win a national championship we now are thinking we have a solid chance every year with Kirby. Even Gator fans if they are honest would admit we are a lot closer than they are even after the debacle we had at QB till the last 4 games of 2020.

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  5. biggusrickus

    I like his comment on the ACC and Bowden’s run, in which I believe they finished in the top 5 for all 15 or nearly all and beat Florida 11 times with a tie (8-5-1 against Spurrier). I assume the rest of it is equally insightful.

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  6. Biggen

    Well hang the fucking banners. The top 15 you say? Three years in a row you say? What a damn accomplishment that must feel like.

    Kinda makes their “1980” talk a little thin doesn’t it??

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  7. akascuba

    As much as it pains me to say this won`t go away until Kirby wins the NC.

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  8. PTC DAWG

    Win it all or we suck fans..I’m glad I’m not one of them.

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  9. Y’all don’t know how much it warms the darkest corners of my heart everytime I realize Gator fans have mentally become what we were during the 90’s and 00’s.

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  10. Russ

    So, does this still mean Mullen is a better coach that Kirby? That’s what I keep reading.

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  11. RangerRuss

    Geez. I just clicked the link and saw that arrogant asshole in all his trashy gaytard glory. They make it so easy to despise them.
    Fuck those motherfuckers!

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  12. ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

    Look, let’s not make this more complicated than it is. The problem has been that Georgia can’t get past Bama. We’re not alone there. The other teams in the SEC, particularly in the West, have had the same problem. An awful lot of good coaches have lost their jobs because of it too. I think that’s why Urbs quit at FU—he saw the handwriting on the wall and moved to another conference. But if you guys are thinking that Kirby has to win a natty this year or the next or be gone you are fucking crazy. Other tan the golden years of the early 40s, early 80s and early 2000s Georgia football has never been as good as it is right now. You can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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  13. Jack Klompus

    If McGarity had his way his (not-so) lasting legacy could have been Mullen, Creen, Kupets/Yulcan.

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  14. dawgphan34

    I think it is fair to say that UGA is on a really great streak of football coaches. Each coach since Goff has made major improvements to the overall program besides wins and loses.

    Smart is a great, and I obliviously want him to win, but UGA is heading towards a championship and I dont know that it has to be Smart that is coaching when it happens.

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  15. W Cobb Dawg

    I like Mullen right where he is (at Lake Oconee). His sloth and disorganization prevent him from capitalizing on all that FL talent. He has a good habit of hiring mediocre assistants. The fact that teams (not named UGA) in the east lack the talent base allows him to sit comfortably in his position as second banana in the sec east.

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  16. RC

    I love this line: “I will stick to the AP Poll because I think it’s better than the Coaches’ Poll.” Okay…awesome…

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  17. TN Dawg

    Chizik took AU from 5-7 to NC in two years.

    Meyer won it all in year two.

    Kirby needs to get it in gear.

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    • Chizik was out of a job two years later. Meyer was on his 3rd coaching job before he won his first.

      Other than that, they’re exactly the same.

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      • TN Dawg

        Just sayin’.

        The idea that it takes 6, 8, 17 years to win a title can be easily countered with examples of coaches that didn’t take that long to do it.

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        • TN Dawg

          Larry Coker, year one.

          Jimbo Fisher, year four.

          Lloyd Carr, year three.

          Danny Ford, year three.

          That’s if you are going with the “you need to be a head coach for a long time” narrative.

          Obviously there are plenty more who have done it in much less time at a new job.

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  18. Found this gem buried at the bottom of the article:

    “Unless there are hidden termites in the walls like there were late in Meyer’s tenure. . .”

    To paraphrase the Senator, that “Unless” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

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