A different kind of opt out

What do y’all make of this?

More importantly, I wonder what Texas, where he’s committed, makes of it.  He’s good enough they’ll keep a spot for him, but I wonder if he discussed his decision with the program before he announced it.

I also wonder if this is the start of a new trend.

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51 responses to “A different kind of opt out

  1. Ozam

    It was inevitable…. I suspect we will see more and more “midseason” opt outs too at both the high school and college levels. And, NIL issues are going to drop down to high school.

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    • gastr1

      HS football is just so much worse than college football that I could get that parties involved may see the risk of injury to be greater than the benefit of additional experience.

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  2. Derek

    The HS wasn’t offering him anything more than a free education, a weight room, coaching, an opportunity to be seen by college scouts, the stage on which he got his opportunity to go to UT. You know, nothing….

    Gotta make high school sports fairer. HS’s are chock full of amateurism romantics tho.

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    • charlottedawg

      Taking your point to its logical end nobody should be able to quit their job or for that matter draw a paycheck since their employer already provided training for that person’s role, a desk and cubicle, further professional development from the projects the employee worked on and “the stage on which said employee got his opportunity” which is then noticed by another employer which is what directly led to him getting the more attractive next role that’s making him leave the first employer!

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  3. aim260

    I see no huge issues here. Preparing for his future, given the unique and rare opportunity that lies ahead for him. But yes, let’s hope Texas was forewarned and gave its blessing.

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  4. Everybody has a plan…until they get hit in the mouth. 7-on-7 and elite camps make this an attractive option for offense skill position players. College coaches should be able to retrain them for full speed contact. Some will fail going this route but it’s just another option for kids to take…why not?

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    • Greg

      Yep…..if you are not conditioned for contact, could be a HUGE issue.

      Of course unless it all goes to “2 hand touch”, which wouldn’t surprise me.

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  5. fisheriesdawg

    The guys who lack competitive spirit but are incredibly talented athletically will be able to do this and we’ll see more of it. That’s a small subset of folks, though. You’ll probably end up seeing more prima donnas that get the Jamie Newman treatment for it. They’ll lose those big school offers when someone else in that same class shows out in their senior season they’ll and find themselves scrambling to get a spot at Louisiana-Lafayette on signing day.

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  6. ApalachDawg aux Bruxelles

    i see opt outs for 6th graders where no one will actually play ball anymore until the final year of their rookie contract.

    just let these guys go pro. or create football academies. it certainly works here in Europe.

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  7. reipar1

    The kid did dislocate his right knee in the first game of his seventh AND eighth grade year. After missing two full seasons I think he understands what’s on the line better than anyone here.

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  8. gurkhadawg

    So elite players are taking more control of their athletic lives? I say more power to them. It will drive the coaches nuts since they are used to having absolute power over these players. Many coaches have used players for the benefit of the team ( meaning themselves) with little regard for the player. Coach Dooley admitted as much. I guess we will see how it shakes out.

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    • Derek

      Two things:

      1) how far do we go with the whole “yay me, fuck you!” attitude? You’d think in a team sport you’d have team goals, team ambitions, team values, and all the other things that are special in team sports. This isn’t golf or track.

      2) I’m not suggesting that this kid isn’t free to do whatever, but unless we diminish the buck and heighten the intangible values that are found in our every day lives we’re going to regret it. The kid will be at great risk at UT as well and far before he is a viable earning entity. Risk is part of life for us all or we aren’t living.

      In short, I’m glad he has the freedom to make that choice. I’m not going to pat him on the back for making it.

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      • biggusrickus

        Your first point kind of touches on this, but there’s also the matter of the kids on the team taking the same risks with no promise of any kind of future in the game. They get certain perks from being on the high school football team, sure, but I expect a lot, maybe most of them are primarily in it to win something. The best player on the team foregoing the season screws them over on that front.

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        • originaluglydawg

          He certainly seems to think highly of himself.

          Agree with Derek and Biggus..it’s a shitty thing to do, but he has the right to do it.
          I don’t care if he’s the next HW..I wouldn’t give him a scholarship or let him walk on.

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  9. W Cobb Dawg

    So you can get a football scholly by NOT playing football.

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  10. PTC DAWG

    Quitters, we are surrounded by them.

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    • 100%! But hell, who am I to judge? When I was in high school, I quit every team I was on and even my own family a year early to go study abroad before college. And since then, I’ve quit every team I was on, and every job, sooner or later, all for my own personal gain.

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  11. jdawg108

    Makes me appreciate Sony Michel and Nick Chubb all the more.

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  12. unionjackgin

    First, he is the #1 RB recruit in the country and already has an offer from UT. Does anyone really think UT is going to pull their offer? If he thought that might happen, maybe he stays, but I think the advice he has received makes sense.

    Perhaps he will not remain the #1 RB recruit since he has opted out of the season, but, as Ozam pointed out above, NIL will creep into the decisions of HS. He has about 7500 followers on Twitter and another 9500 on Instagram. These will only go up over the next year. If he played this year, he could not take advantage of the NIL rules.

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    • unionjackgin

      Also, is this really that much different than what Bryce Harper did? He left high school after his sophomore year because he knew he would be a top pick in the MLB draft

      Unless something drastically changes the development process for football players – the NFL is still dependent on the school system to develop talent for colleges and then the pros,

      I would think there is more handwringing in high school and college basketball because of the NBA’s G-League options, and prep school/league initiatives like the one that is about to launch at Atlantic Station in September.

      https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31482947/matt-ryan-bewley-first-high-school-juniors-join-elite-league-sources-say

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    • theorginaldawgabides

      Do the state laws forbid High school players from monetizing their NIL? I’m asking because I don’t know. If not, it seems to reason that he could earn more through his social media by being the number one RB in the nation, because I imagine the services are going to drop him down a bit.

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      • You must have state government confused with the NCAA.

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        • theorginaldawgabides

          I guess what I’m asking is, do any of the new state laws have language addressing high school athletes’ NIL rights, either for or against? If not, will the NCAA, after all the losses they’ve taken, try to deny college eligibility to kids who’ve made money off social media while in high school?

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          • I am unaware of any, but a state isn’t going to pass a law that deprives someone of earnings from their likeness.

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          • unionjackgin

            This is straight from the UIL which is the sanctioning body for high school athletics in Texas. Obviously, I am not an attorney but my past life in athletics leads me to believe that if he accepted NIL payments as a high schooler, then he would not be eligible.

            (2) Awards Students May Receive. A student may not accept from any source other than the school attended or the school district, any award in money, product or service for competing in an interschool contest except as follows.

            (A) A certificate, medal, trophy, ring, or other symbolic award for participating in any UIL activity which counts on UIL standing, if it is given:

            (i) by the school, or school district in accordance to the limitations in Section 480 (a)(1);

            (ii) the District Executive Committee or the entity that organized the competition (i.e., the regional director or zone director;

            (iii) the UIL or one of the professional, education organizations sanctioned by the UIL; or

            (iv) an outside source approved by the school or school district.

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  13. Scotty King

    Right on to the last 4 posts!

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  14. Scotty King

    I meant Derek, W Cobb, PTC, and jdawg.

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  15. debbybalcer

    RB only have so much shelf life for their careers. If he is worried about wear and tear on his body and brain affecting his future then we should respect that it is his life.

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    • RangerRuss

      There it is, Ms Debby. For some at a certain point it’s not about having fun with your friends, beating your rival and winning a championship for the fans, your teammates and your school. It becomes all about ME and the life altering money to be made in the League. A man has to do what he feels is best for his future.
      Not sure if I’m down with that attitude. Wouldn’t want someone like that next to me when the chips were down. Or in a fight.

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      • Got Cowdog

        This^^^, and I’ll add Sundiatagaines’ great point below. Dude is going to sit out his Senior year in HS because he doesn’t want to risk injury? Yeah, he’s probably going to sit out his Junior year of college. Is the kid really that good?
        Everyone accepts that CFB is the de-facto apprenticeship for the NFL. But…big time college programs are there to win football games and regardless of your stance on NIL, they spend a lot of money on their players. Should this guy (and others of the same mindset) only play two years, even if he’s a 800-1000 yd back, Is he worth the effort?

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        • Cow you and Ranger nailed it…it’s possible that this young man lives up to all his ballyhoo and has a standout year or 2…or, by circumstance becomes another Jasper Sanks…I do wish him success, but his advisement/decision making process may have long term ramifications…coaches/teammates may not look back favorably at him skipping his senior year in HS if a little adversity rears its head in the future

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          • Absolutely. High school boys need to learn to abide by the collective will and wisdom of other high school boys. Everyone knows this great country was founded on the ideal of submitting individual dreams and any opportunity at personal greatness to serve the communal good. Especially at the high school level. I fear our young comrade will never understand the true joy of submitting to the collective.

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  16. I would have to assume he discussed this with Sark and his high school coaches. I’m guessing Sark is ok with it, or he wouldn’t be in Texas garb for his announcement. I’m guessing his high school coaches, many of his teammates and the local community won’t be doing cartwheels if he’s healthy enough to play and help the team.

    This kind of opting out is completely different than a 3rd or 4th year college player deciding to sit out a meaningless bowl game or a season played in a pandemic.

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  17. sundiatagaines

    I’d say this puts the over/under on seasons he chooses to suit up for Texas at about 1.5

    No chance he risks injury his junior year. Unless he thinks this decision ended up backfiring.

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  18. Terry McCullers

    To me this says a lot about the guys character. You quit now how many more times you gonna quit in the future. I may old school but I wouldn’t touch this guy with a 10 foot pole.

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  19. Morris Day

    What do y’all make of this?
    This? Why, I can make a hat or a brooch or a pterodactyl…

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  20. Salty Dawg

    Judging by his grammar, he needs to stay in school another year and pay attention in English! Yeesh.

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  21. RangerRuss

    And I heard The Voice saying. “Whom shall I send? Who will go for us?”
    And I said, “Not me, man. I got to think about my future.”

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  22. theorginaldawgabides

    https://ca.nba.com/news/report-five-star-junior-scoot-henderson-signs-groundbreaking-deal-to-join-g-league-ignite/1q6bmgzjzbpx317zn21x27c1z2

    Here’s another kid opting out of his senior year. But in this case, he has a million reasons for it.

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