Yesterday, Josh responded to a post and comments here with a very interesting Twitter thread. (He hinted at it in a comment here yesterday.)
Here’s the money part:
As insane as those numbers in his chart are — and for Georgia, those are pretty damned insane — remember (1) there’s two-thirds of a season’s worth of erratic QB play baked into them and (2) Monken didn’t get a spring practice to install his offense. Neither of those are part of the 2021 story.
Maybe we should just chill the fuck out about Georgia’s offense for a while and wait to see if consistency pays off.
I don’t understand this stat. Why are the Gators ranked 11th even thought they had the most yards and a solid 17 ypc? What I’m trying to understand is why were the Gators not explosive but the Bulldogs were?
Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen…
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Passing metric filtered out unsuccessful plays…maybe they had an ass load of big yardage plays, who cares…#FTMF
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That third chart is sorted by EPA on successful plays (ie explosiveness) Florida had a lot more successful plays than UGA which will drive down that average. But, it shows that when UGA was successful- the plays were 1st downs, chunk yardage, scores. UF passed A LOT. And it was successful- just weighed down this stat.
Your point is interesting- might drill down more on this. Maybe look at overall explosiveness (run/pass) as that is probably more accurate to UF’s offensive approach
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The stats ignore shoe tosses, bringing down their score.
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Now, that’s service. 😉
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I boomer’d this. I may have responded to your question, Doug in the wrong reply. Explosiveness is just one part of the efficiency approach. Success Rate and UGA must do better than a 46% SR on offense to be elite. I believe they will and they probably won’t lead the league in explosiveness if that is case, but will be near the top and potentially be an elite offense
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I’m with theotherdoug in that I don’t know what my takeaway should be when a stat “filters out the unsuccessful plays” or other teams just throw it all over the yard with success so it “brings their average down.” Feels overly scripted to achieve a desired conclusion and very Fromm2019’ish………oh he can pass when we need him to, trust the plan.
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You can keep safe distance from my optimism as any UGA fan should – just pointing out that there legit signs that this offense will be a lot different than any CKS coached team. Go Dawgs!!
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Those stats along with Kirby Smart’s determination lead me to believe that Got Cowdog is correct in his prediction that the Dawgs are going to beat Clemson going away. It’s all coming together this year, that latest SEC Shorts video be damned.
GATA!
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This seasons highlight maybe, the less we hear from the Great One…Ron Courson, UGA football should be/ could be the leader going into the back nine in December…
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He was not shy about bombing the shit out of the ball last year. They of course didn’t always connect but there were dozens of occasions for the other teams’ fans to hold their breath in terror.
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Especially as we had guys (including vs. Alabama) running free behind defenses … if JT is available for the entire season, who knows? Maybe we go into Tuscaloosa and beat them. We certainly go to Jacksonville and make that game a horse race (I wonder if JT should have played instead of Mathis when SBIV got hurt).
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Joe Cox would have beaten Florida. Bauta might could have pulled it off. ANY quarterback at all.
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Honestly Cox threw kind of a beautiful deep ball. Monken probably would have liked him.
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He couldn’t throw the intermediate ball worth a flip, though. Not sure how much Monken would have liked that.
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He was certainly not a complete QB. Still, he was a functioning QB. As it were, we didn’t have one of those in Jax this year. Hell, our 2015 QB room probably could have gotten it done this year.
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In 2009, the Ginger Ninja threw 15 INTs, a shade over 7 ypa, 55% completion, and 2500 yards. Not the stuff of legends. If you extrapolate out Stetson to the number of attempts Joe C had, they have pretty identical stats. I do acknowledge Joe C had more TD passes though. Still, I don’t think he gets it done against the Gators.
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True. I was there when the Ginger Ninja outdueled Ryan Frankenstein at Arkansas. Each threw 5 TDs but Dawgs got a few more stops and we had a rushing attack with RSIV.
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Todd Monken is Winston Wolf – he solves problems; so pretty please with a cherry on top, clean the fucking offense up
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Just because you are a character does not mean you have character.
Winston Wolfe
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“Maybe we should just chill the fuck out about Georgia’s offense for a while…”
Agree. Let’s take a deep breath. Remain calm. And don’t look at the man behind the curtain. 🙂
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Filtering out unsuccessful plays? LMAO. Why does this make me think of the Sex Panther cologne from Ron Burgundy? “60% of the time, it works every time.”
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The thing about watching Monken’s offense last year was that we had receivers running open in space on almost every play.
Our limitations at quarterback both not seeing open receivers, or not being able to connect cost us dearly.
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I have a big problem with filtering out unsuccessful plays. How can you look at reward without looking at risk at the same time? Anyone who trades in the financial markets will tell you only a fool would look at reward without also looking at the risk associated with it. If you filtered out my unsuccessful trades, I would be a billionaire. Sadly, I’m not.
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But if someone could bet against you, those numbers would show them just how dangerous a single bad bet could be, rather than an average of always betting against you. That’s what this shows us and DC’s.
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It is NOT a measure of overall quality, more of style and risk profile. How does he do it, and how does he get you when he does?
I think…
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That’s just the formula for explosiveness. “How good are you when you are good”
That post had overall offense that shows UGA was middle of pack in conference time in overall offense.
The total offense under JT was near top (albeit – small sample size). The explosiveness with JT was elite.
This wasn’t intended to excuse the offense but shows signs that the 2021 offense to dramatically improved.
Even looking at just the JT snaps and the 46% Success Rate –
Dawgs will need to improve consistency.
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Could not agree more with your header and last sentence…Keep Calm and Go Dawgs
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Misspelled Passing. But great stats & signs of hopefully major improvement & what we are building upon nonetheless. Imagine if we have Blaylock & Pickens on the field for CFP. Hope their Cali trip got the chemistry down!
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Hmm. Filtering out certain plays? I’m not sure how I feel about it. I hate UF as much as the next guy but even a blind man knew they were explosive on offense.
Here is the thing, for me, its the eye test. When Daniels took over we definitely passed the eye test on offense. I can’t imagine we don’t pass it next year with the returning of all that production. I don’t need a colorful full screen graphic to tell me that.
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If your interpretation of Josh’s data is that it says Georgia had a more explosive offense than Florida last season, you’re doing it wrong.
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My confusion lies in the fullscreen that shows us at the top (2nd place) of “Total Offensive Explosiveness” while above both Bama and UF.
So, yeah, I guess I’m doing it wrong.
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now look at Air Yards/Completion. This offense will be something to watch
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