Thank you for your input.


North Carolina coach Mack Brown said Thursday that during a team discussion about the expanded 12-team College Football Playoff, his players were against the format and preferred six to eight teams.

During a wide-ranging Zoom with reporters, Brown mentioned that ACC commissioner Jim Phillips had asked all coaches to get feedback from players about playoff expansion. Last month, the CFP board of managers authorized commissioners to move forward with expanding from four to 12 teams, with an implementation date to be determined.

North Carolina linebacker Jeremiah Gemmel told ESPN that nobody on the team raised their hand in favor of a 12-team playoff. He said a few players preferred to stay at four, while the majority was split between six and eight teams.

“I feel like 12 teams is too many games in a season for players who want to play long-term football,” Gemmel said in a phone interview. “Sixteen, 17 games in a season is a lot of wear and tear on the body, especially for guys who don’t come out when they’re playing.”


… The possibility of two teams playing 17 games must be disconcerting for a game that has battled significant medical issues over the last two decades. More than 30 players have died in that timeframe, mostly from heat exertion during practice.

One CFP source said as many as half the 12-team field could play no additional games (assuming six teams do not play in a conference championship game and lose in the first round).

For a team to play the maximum of 17 games, it would have to participate in its league championship game, a first-round playoff game and reach the national championship.

“That’s such an unlikely occurrence,” one Power Five AD said. “We could go a decade with that not happening.”

With more games and more revenue comes increased responsibility. At $1 billion per season in an expanded playoff, an extra $12 million would pour into the coffers of Power Five athletic departments (assuming 78% of the revenue continues to be distributed to teams in those conferences).

Will that lead to enhanced medical coverage from institutions or conferences for athletes, some of whom will put their bodies on the line nearly as often as professionals? Perhaps it results in additional funds going into the pockets of athletes in the CFP beyond what is now possible through name, image and likeness rights?

“Can [CFP participants], if they graduate, walk away with an additional $20,000 or $30,000?” another Power Five AD suggested. “I know the CFP committee is talking about those kinds of things. … At the end of their careers, they get a check for whatever. Those kinds of things are the type of things we’re going to have to consider.”

They’ll consider it.  And then they’ll go with the unlikely occurrence approach, with a dash of doing it for the kids sanctimony.  It’s worked before.


Filed under BCS/Playoffs, The Body Is A Temple

23 responses to “Thank you for your input.

  1. pdawg30577

    How does this unnamed AD figure that the possibility of a team playing in their conference championship game, the first round of the playoffs and then the national championship is so damn remote?

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    • Tony BarnFart

      Exactly. I would happily take a wager that we will see the SECCG loser appear in the CFP final within the first 10 years. Hell I’d probably take a wager on the first 5 years.


  2. Ran A

    Tells you everything you need to know doesn’t it. My favorite game of the year that may not have my Dawgs in it? The SEC Championship. This play-off system will eventually force the elimination of that game – as everyone will be forced to adjust to a play-off system that will do nothing but add more and more games in the coming years. Basically a mini-version of basketball, but with a feel of a participation trophy. Ugh…

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    • Greg

      if they go through with it, probably should drop the conference championship games.

      thinks everyone would have been better off just leaving it the old way (2 teams)……they’ve really opened up a can of worms by expanding.

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  3. The Truth

    “Because they wanted the playoffs to be about who is good enough to win all the games or win the national championship, not just have a bunch of teams involved,” Brown said.

    Senator, this was the money quote from the article for me — quite frankly, I thought you might lock in on it as well. Obviously, these children have not been properly educated regarding the phrase “gravy train.” They’re just a bunch of naive waifs who want to protect the integrity of the competition.

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  4. That’s such an unlikely occurrence,” one Power Five AD said. “We could go a decade with that not happening.”
    And you want to be my latex salesman!

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  5. Hogbody Spradlin

    Yeah it’s an unlikely occurrence that a team will be in conference championship game, first round playoff game, etc., to play 17 games. But it’s certain that one or more teams will play 16 games.
    That makes it all better. Right?

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  6. Those who fantasize that expanded playoffs will bring excitement and more opportunity please exit to the left. The rest of you can please get out your wallets.

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  7. CB

    2018 Georgia could have easily been that team. Lose the SECCG by a small margin, play a first round game and roll through to the title game.

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  8. Say what you want about NIL (love it or hate it), but it’s already making management think about bargaining with the workers… “Can [CFP participants], if they graduate, walk away with an additional $20,000 or $30,000?” another Power Five AD suggested. “I know the CFP committee is talking about those kinds of things”…I don’t recall any of those types of discussions being aired in public during the BCS era or the creation of the cfp…now right out of the gate it’s more carrot than stick during the initial discussions of expansion…clearly that is by design

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  9. GruvenDawg

    That’s a lot of games. 15 games is a lot, not sure I support 16 or 17 for those guys. At this point the NCAA and athletic departments should consider dropping the 12th game they added in 2006. Conferences get to keep their championship game and the players have less wear and tear even if they do go all the way.

    Doubt it happens but that’s one way conferences could sell the 12 team playoffs and money earned from it. Giving up a home game for most teams may be a bridge too far…No one said doing what’s right is easy especially when it comes to FBS athletic directors and the NCAA

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    • Dropping a regular season game totally screws those of us who pay a lot of money for season tickets because it isn’t going to be the rent-a-win games that go … it will be the high profile OOC home and home series.

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      • If they wanted to drop the season back to 11 games and add a rotating cross-division conference game, I would be totally ok with that.

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        • Tony BarnFart

          I feel like they could craft some kind of creative contingent scheduling of a 12th game, on the same day as championship saturday, in order to give everyone a 12th game without overburdening a championship participant. For example, play inter-division contests between teams ranked 2-7, making matchups as close as possible as their division finish, except adjust to avoid repeats.

          In 2019, this would have worked seamlessly with no repeats to work around the order of finish. So as UGA and LSU compete for the SEC title, that days earlier action (move SEC title kickoff to primetime) could feature
          2bama vs. 2 florida
          3auburn vs 3 tenn
          4a&m vs. 4kentucky
          5msu vs. 5 mizzou
          6ole miss vs. 6 south carolina
          7ark vs. 7vandy


  10. akascuba

    Mac I really don’t believe what your selling. If given the opportunity to be in the playoffs by adding a game or two to their season I believe they are all in.

    I listened to Cole Cuberlic discuss this very question. His response was players overwhelming supported adding games if it might more players were given the chance to make the playoffs.


  11. Scotty King

    12 Regular season games
    1 Conference Game loss
    3 Playoff games

    Even using “new math”, that’s 16, not 17. And a very unlikely scenario.

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    • SoCalDawg

      SECC (or any conf champ game) losers could play 17 if they aren’t in top 4 final ranking after the conf champ games:

      12 reg season
      1 conf champ
      Round 1 game (if not in top 4 for bye) – 12 teams
      Quarterfinals – 8 teams
      Semifinals – 4 teams
      CFP Champ Game – 2 teams


  12. Ozam

    I keep waiting for a team or group of players to one day say….”if you don’t pay us we aren’t playing.” With the rapid “evolution” of college football, I think that day is near.


    • I would bet there’s something in the national letter of intent that restricts that. Whether the school would be willing to enforce the provision is a different consideration.


    • jcdawg83

      As long as the only path to the NFL is college football I don’t see that happening.