TFW cutting off your nose to spite your face is a business plan

Stewart Mandel ($$) notes how counterproductive the grudge the other P5 kids have against Greg Sankey is:

… In particular, the Pac-12, Big Ten and ACC — none of which were on the four-person working group that spent two years secretly devising the 12-team proposal — feel like Greg Sankey (who did serve on that group) pulled a fast one on them, and so if nothing else, they want to hit pause on the process. It now seems overly optimistic that they’d rubber stamp the thing at the next CFP meetings on Sept. 28.

The question is, would they only be hurting themselves to delay it? The Pac-12 in particular really shouldn’t wait another five years for Playoff expansion to kick in. The league’s reputation has suffered immensely from having missed the last four editions; what if that drought continues? The ACC is always one 9-3 Clemson season away from going MIA itself. And of course, you’d think the Big 12 would support it because if Oklahoma and Texas do manage to leave before 2025, the leftovers are really going to need those six automatic berths.

That almost makes me root for an all Big Ten-SEC edition of the CFP.

On a more serious note, let’s say these other conferences really intend to sulk badly enough to risk costing themselves prestige and money.  Is there any possibility those feelings would carry over to the selection committee’s deliberations?  Maybe there are some hats you can’t leave at the door.

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23 responses to “TFW cutting off your nose to spite your face is a business plan

  1. Ran A

    There are some stupid people in college athletics – I knew that… What confounds me is the number of stupid people in college athletics that run conferences and are AD’s…

    I picked the wrong career path…

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  2. This is just like the initial bluster and grandstanding when UT and OK leaving leaked out…ham it up now for the cameras and your schools & boosters, but behind closed doors the money will trump their self righteous feelings…they all wanted to expand the cfp prior to the shake up…I’m betting they quickly find their way back to that spot…look how irrelevant the PAC 12 has become…

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  3. akascuba

    They feel required to publicly hit the pause button for now to save face. Until the SEC announces the date OU and Texas will join the conference with a new TV deal. In the end they will all cave and take the cash.

    The PAC12 is hoping one of their teams goes undefeated if so OU is in trouble with the guys leaving their hats at the door group. How this effects Georgia is going undefeated is the only sure path to the playoffs now. SEC biases will be at an all time high among those hats.

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  4. HirsuteDawg

    That was a very good point about the bias in the Selection Committee. I strongly feel that there is a bias against some teams already and very much suspect that the SEC will not be treated fairly going forward 4 teams 8 teams or 12 teams.

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  5. miltondawg

    I’m fine with remaining at a four team playoff. From a Georgia fan perspective, waiting five more years to go to a 12 team playoff is probably bad for Georgia’s chances to win a natty. On the other hand, if it means that the SEC gets even stronger in relation to other conferences (I’m looking at you Pac 12 and Big XII) then I am fine with waiting so that the SEC has an even stronger argument for no constraints on who can be selected for the 6 playoff spots that don’t go to automatic qualifiers.

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    • MGW

      Fewer playoff rounds are fewer chances for a bad bounce, injury, or random flat game to cost Georgia a title. So I’m really hoping Georgia can bring one home before the expansion.

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    • otto1980

      I pull for 3 of the other 4 P5 conference to have undefeated champs and the SECCG to be a play in game with no chance of the other team making the dance. I’d rather face any team from the other 4 P5 conferences than a team from the SEC good enough to get invite Bama, A&M, LSU or by some weird chance UF’s only blemish is in Jax and they get an invite. If UGA goes to the SECCG and doesn’t win, it was still settled on the field.

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  6. CB

    Couldn’t the other conferences realistically hold the whole thing hostage if they collectively wanted to?

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    • miltondawg

      The short answer is, yes. However, in the face of someone like the Big XII (after the departure of OU and UT) or Pac 12 not getting a team in the playoff the vast majority of years, I don’t see the Big XII or Pac 12 aligning with the ACC or B1G for a long holdout on a 12 team playoff.

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      • CB

        True, but I wonder how it would turn out if the B1G and the ACC, who both have a perennial team that is in the playoff running, decided to lock arms with the Big 12 and Pac 12 in the hopes of taking some power back from the SEC who is basically bullying everyone at this point. Maybe get Notre Dame in on the action as wel.

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  7. MGW

    I hope they’re doing the “math” on this as quickly as possible rather than just sitting around fuming and planning to just make a point by saying “no for now cause y’all are big meannies.”

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  8. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    ” That almost makes me root for an all Big Ten-SEC edition of the CFP.”

    So, OSU and 3 SEC teams? Hmmm. Who gets to play OSU?

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  9. godawgs1701

    They can press “pause” on playoff expansion all they want. They’ll press “play” again as soon as they realize that pretty much every year a 16-team supercharged SEC will have two of the four spots in the current playoff and there are plenty of scenarios where we have three teams with a credible argument to be in. They can have hurt feelings all they want. They can pitch a fit and show out in public all they want. When they realize that it’s going to hurt the money, they’ll fall in line – just ask Texas A&M.

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  10. theotherdoug

    The PAC and ACC will want a 4 team playoff with the SEC, Big10, ACC, and PAC all getting an autobid. Big10 is probably ok with it too.

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  11. ericstrattonrushchairmandamngladtomeetyou

    I’ve always been suspicious of the selection committee. The basic problem is they know the identity of the teams. Under the old BCS system a computer selected the top two using only objective criteria and without team bias. Why don’t we do that just expand the number of teams selected?

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  12. 69Dawg

    See my reply to the earlier thread. For us to get into the playoff we will have to beat Alabama for the SECC. Failing that the selection committee will not reward the SEC with another team. Alabama is the only team to get a mulligan from the committee.

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  13. Texas Dawg

    This is like nature or nurture. Which is more powerful $$$ or ego?

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    • godawgs1701

      Given that Texas A&M is officially a “yes” vote on bringing in Texas, I’d say money has won that one and it wasn’t that close.

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  14. tiredofidsearch

    The flip side is if you expand now, espn renegotiates/extends the contract with no competition (it’s not an open bid situation).
    Wait until current contract comes up and it’s open season. See what CBS, NBC, Fox etc… might throw out there. Even if espn wins that, they will pay more (possibly substantially more) than they would under the first scenario. It could even be divided up among multiple bidders.
    To me that’s what’s driving this…. espn wraps it up even further with no competition.

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