Three thoughts from Amelia Island

I was in too much of a celebratory mood last night to post, but I did want to share a few things that ran through my brain during and after yesterday’s extremely satisfying victory.

  • As I watched Florida completely disintegrate during the last 150 seconds of the first half, I couldn’t help but think “hey, that’s the way we used to lose here” — you know, superficially in the game, but hanging in suspense, waiting for disaster to strike.  I must say the shoe looks very good on the other foot.
  • Just after my first thought came the realization that I just witnessed the ultimate “be careful what you wish for” moment for Florida fans.  How you like AR15 now, Gates?
  • Forget about scheduling or recruiting or travel time or whatever complaint you may have… after the pleasure of watching half of a stadium empty for the fourth quarter and the players’ (and Smart’s) postgame celebration with the fans, how can you pull this game out of Jacksonville?  There is a special joy in wins at a neutral site against your heated rival that would, in my very humble opinion, be diminished in a different setting.

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  1. Remember the Quincy

    At some point during the pregame on TV, somebody (can’t recall if it was a player or a commentator) called this the best rivalry in college football. I’m not sure I’d say it’s the BEST, but it is special. It would lose a good deal of luster moving it out of Jax.

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  2. willypmd

    I have have been squarely in the take the game out of Jacksonville crowd for the last decade (as a Dawg fan that came of age in the early 2000’s, I think some of that was PTSD coupled with selection bias).

    I find your argument and the financial benefits compelling. Kirby wants another weekend to recruit, but he also wants unlimited recruiting dollars, and this game provides the latter.

    Keeping a foot in the South Georgia recruiting base is another benefit and to your point, it is a pretty unique and just cool experience being in a 50/50 stadium with the season on the line.

    FTMF and Go Dawgs

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  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    Trying to be kind, I think the two interceptions showed Stetson Bennett’s limitations. He ran the plays as the boss called but the passes were a little off target, off distance, and/or thrown a mite late. He’s thrown the successful long ball before, but IIRC those were one on one coverage.
    Throwing the receiver open. That’s something they either have or don’t. Aaron Murray had it. J.T. Daniels too, I think. Can’t wait for them to get that step; just gotta believe it (says the nerd who never played football).

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    • originaluglydawg

      Honest Q. Hogbody…You’re right that SB has limitations. But will you acknowledge that he also has some special abilities? For instance escapeability and mobility. Do you think JT could have withstood the pressure that SB ran away from most of the game? I don’t. In spite of his two errors, SB was the right QB for this game. Was he sacked at all? Do you believe JT would have run for those first downs? I love JT and want to see him back, but SB actually had a good game. All some can focus on are his two bad decisions..which I’ll admit were glaring.
      What I can’t figure out was why we were taking long shots when the drives were going so well.
      Anyway, it was a great, great win and demoralized the Jort’s Nation and I’m happy as a pig in slop!

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      • gastr1

        I’ll give that Stetson was the right guy for this game, especially given Grantham’s constant blitzing & pressure tactics. But now I want to see JT start against Mizzou and get back into game form. And we can all thank SBIV for being the best “other “QB we could have hoped for.

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      • J.R. Clark

        SBIV is the 2021 equivalent of Greg Talley, a DGD. JT is the 2021 equivalent of Eric Zeier.

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    • Hogbody Spradlin

      I think J.T. can push the ball down the field better than Stetson, and that we score more against all quality of defenses with a healthy J.T. than with a healthy Stetson. But I ain’t making several mil a year to decide.

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      • NFL Quarterbacks throw interceptions. The guy hasn’t been a pick machine, and he hasn’t had “maddening” judgment this season. He had a PERFECT swing pass to Zamir dropped, he had a very nice pass to Rosemy-Jacksaint dropped. He threw one or two passes away (I think including one Brock almost got anyway).

        The kid is FAR better at the quarterback position than many like to admit, but this fan base has the worst case of “shiny new toy” that I’ve ever seen.

        JT has looked great at times. He also DIDNT look great against Clemson. People give him that pass because of the oblique. Ok, fine. Stet lost to Bama and then separated his shoulder against FL last year. People hold on to those two performances and consider them his ceiling. But, he guided the offense to 27 points against Florida this week, and for the most part, made two mistakes – which were both akin to punts.

        Those mistakes you can usually accept, especially with a D like ours. Sometimes, the other guys make a play. Sometimes you don’t quite get your perfect ball. Keep chopping wood.

        Oh, and JT, whenever he comes back, will likely toss a pick or two. And of course, as this fan base is, it will start looking for who’s next.

        Maybe right now, Stet is the shiny new toy. Play with him.

        Go Dawgs.

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        • iusedtopostasmikecooley

          I will admit that this fan base makes perfect the enemy of good, even really good, more than any fan base I know of and it gets on my nerves too. But to me most of the criticism or just questioning of Bennett over JT if he’s healthy doesn’t exist in a vacuum. People have watched Kirby let talented quarterbacks sit on the bench before so they are a little fun shy about it. That’s not totally unreasonable.

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          • “watched Kirby let talented quarterbacks sit on the bench”

            Who? Justin Fields? He went to the soft big 10 and balled out… and eventually lost to… CLEMSON (when LSU beat UGA) and ALABAMA (last year). So – would UGA have achieved more with him? Really hard to support that theory.

            Other than that, what quarterback mismanagement would Joe Fan point to? Carson Beck not leaving the bench? I’m gonna go ahead and trust Kirby on that one.

            At some point, fans need to accept their ignorance of practice and their impotence to change game situations…. and just enjoy a damn good team doing what damn good teams do, and the pain and anguish of all the opposing fanbases who have to watch along with the rest of us.

            Go Dawgs.

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            • iusedtopostasmikecooley

              I don’t expect you to look back through my posts but to your final points I’ve said the exact same thing on a daily basis for a long time. But yeah, fair or not, the perception is that Kirby could have handled the Fields situation better. To me that’s why some people are a little raw about the current quarterback situation. Still, I mostly see support and appreciation for Bennett even if people think JT will be necessary to win down the road.

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              • I appreciate your understanding of my lack of attention span! 🙂

                And I agree.. JT may indeed be necessary at some point, or he may not. Mostly I just wish the fanbase would stop the needless second-guessing. Like, I understand arguing about a loss, and trying to extrapolate reasons why this choice or that choice is what got us beat, and should therefore have been the decision Kirby made (the arguments that Stet is the reason we didn’t get the shutout… holy shit) …

                But bitching and whining about the possible decisions that might come in the future and the potential ramifications in a world that could theoretically exist is so ridiculous.

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              • whb209

                I am really sick of hearing anything about Justin Fields.
                Please let it go. We were never at practice of in the locker room. We have no idea what was really going on. Just trust Kirby and move on.

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        • Got Cowdog

          Watching on TV, they kept flashing to Monken in the booth. Unless you have a spreadsheet like the one he was playing with? You don’t know shit. (Not you in particular Ben Dukes) Bennett threw that ball where he was supposed to throw it. They’ve been under throwing receivers on purpose since Monken’s been the OC, It’d be silly to think an opposing coach hadn’t seen it.

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        • SoCalDawg

          LOL — i don’t even know you anymore! i recall your “GD TX gunslinger” comment to me some 15 years ago in WW! to which i agreed wholeheartedly! it’s not all that unlike JT3 v Staff. IMO, you dance with the special ones. you can always come back to the toy box, it a’int going anywhere.

          And go dawgs. keep choppin indeed brother.

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  4. RangerRuss

    Agreed on your third point, Senator. Nothing like that skycam shot of the old Gator Bowl bedazzled in Red only. Not to mention every other year being infested with those jort wearing, Natty Lite guzzling, refugees from a reclaimed shithole they call the Swamp off the board.
    I’ve had a lot of good days in a great life. Yesterday was memorable. I hope it hurts the handbag fans as much as it makes me happy.
    Fuck those motherfuckers.

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  5. Fl fans have spent all week blasting Grantham and saying their only hope was Mullen’s offense. Well, looked to me like their defense was much improved. Not Grantham’s fault that the offense turned the ball over on 3 consecutive drives though I wonder what that db was thinking after the end zone interception. Was he trying to run it back or did he think he was still in the end zone

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  6. Do C

    I never see an argument about how playing in Jacksonville helps us win more games. Also, the game always looks the same to me in my chair so I couldn’t care less about that shit hole city.

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    • I would say that game helps us win more games because it boosts revenue that helps Kirby have the largest recruiting budget to land the best players.

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      • mg4life0331

        I’m not sure that really correlates when we have a surplus.

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        • originaluglydawg

          Yeah, but Kirbs can work at recruiting kids away from UF to places like FSU …”Sorry kid, we don’t have room for you, but have you considered FSU?. Great choice and it keeps you from wearing having to wear orange”.
          Can’t you just see it in the Daily Gator?
          ” Georgia coach Kirby Smart flips five star recruit from UF to FSU”
          …(not that many fives are actually interested in becoming MFers)

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    • ugafidelis

      I know that playing a cornered Florida team who had nothing to lose yesterday, it was better to be playing then in Jacksonville than in Gainesville.

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  7. Your “that’s the way we used to lose” comment definitely took me back to the fourth quarter of the 1999 game, in which a quick flurry of turnovers turned a manageable 16–14 deficit into a 30–14 rout. Which I had to witness in the pouring rain, no less. Glad that angst is on the Gator side of the stadium these days.

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    • 2000 too. Winning before halftime, terrible pick and run back, and gack up a lead they had the entire first half.

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    • RangerRuss

      Man, I don’t EVEN want to think about those games.

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      • J.R. Clark

        I still haven’t gotten over 1993. THAT game was worse than the beatdowns in Gainesville and Athens. UGA WON THAT GAME!!!!!!! The refs called a phantom TO.

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      Oh, yes. For about 20 years starting in the mid 90s I went every year. Some were horrible. A couple were good for us, but mostly losses. I had a cousin who was a sports editor for a small Florida paper and in the post game drinking-breaking-down-the-tailgate time he would come by after one of the losses and bring the stat sheet that got distributed to the press, and I would look at it and you would have thought we were in the game and that we were competitive. Except. Except. I think Andy thought that would be a consolation to me, but mostly it was painful.

      Yessir, it does look very good on the other foot. And most of you are spelling MuLLLLen’s name wrong. 😀

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      • Russ

        At most it was a 15 year run. Still impressive but not so dark as many imagine. And now we’re back to a double digit lead in the series record.

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  8. Casey Chestnut

    Yeah, good thing for the Gators that they started the QB that didn’t have turnover issues. Otherwise things could have gotten ugly.

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    • mwodieseldawg

      I’ve owned close to 2 dozen AR15s in my life and I’ve never had one misfire as bad as the one in the game yesterday. He needed a forward assist in the worst way possible.

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      • RangerRuss

        LMFAO!
        Richardson has a Cooper Industries magazine brain.

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        • RangerRuss

          In the interest of clarity for any of y’all that give a shit, in the mid 80’s DA directed us to DX all our Cooper Industries 30rd magazines. Subsequently, failure-to-feed on properly maintained M16s dropped dramatically.
          Remember, MIL-SPEC doesn’t always mean the highest quality. Sometimes it’s just the lowest bidder.

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  9. Previously Paul

    I know Kirby likes to complain about the inability to recruit in JAX, not that it seems to be an issue for him. However, I don’t think he actually wants the game moved. He just wants to recruit there.

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    • theotherdoug

      Kirby wanted to have his top 20 recruits at last nights game. He knows how to get the recruits to yes.

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      • spur21

        Pretty sure they can do a work around and provide game tickets. The only missing piece is spending time with the recruits and showing off the facilities. I think recruits look at the game as a truly special game with an unbelievable atmosphere.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          Spending time with recruits, showing off facilities and exposure to what UGA can offer academically are the three most important parts of recruiting . It is like giving a Barbeque chef that we can give you a butt and saying “we don’t have a grill or smoker for your use but we do have a big microwave. ” Yeah, it will cook the meat but it wouldn’t be the same.

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        • They can. His response was “It’s complicated”

          Sifting through them ‘cruitin rules gets tough.

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        • Texas Dawg

          Think of how good recruiting would actually be if we did not have to give up that home date to Jax every other year. If we had that we could go from 1st to…..1st!

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    • originaluglydawg

      All he has to do is show recruits the videos we just watched (at the top of this thread) of the celebration and love and passion that the whole team, from coaches to players to ball boys to fans…have. for each other and UGA.. He should play it continuously on the BM screens.
      It’s a damn fine thing to be a Georgia Bulldog!

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  10. As a season ticket holder who doesn’t go to the Florida game, you would typically think I would want the Florida game in my season ticket package every other year. You would be wrong.

    The value for fans and recruiting and the tradition make me say, “Don’t ever move it. I’ll start going again soon.”

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  11. akascuba

    Kirby has once again made Jacksonville the place gator dreams go to die.

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  12. siskey

    You’re first bullet point is 100% the truth. I can’t begin to list the various games against Florida where we were “hanging around” only to have 2-3 mistakes and then lose by 28+. Here’s to another win in Jacksonville! Go Dawgs!

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  13. iusedtopostasmikecooley

    Senator thank you for the unexpected posts this morning.

    Man how great has this season been? Some of you “I’m concerned” types had better start enjoying it or it will be gone.

    I told y’all Georgia was going to kick Florida’s ass. Do yourself a favor and go over to their
    247 board. It is a delicious dessert for that tasty meal of gator that we just had. They are in a frenzy of worry and angst and it is beautiful to see that in place of all that arrogance. A lot of them now see “AR 15” for the wishful thinking that it was. And there are a few still trying to tell themselves that all is well Kevin Bacon style ‘cause gators apparently.

    How unbearable was Gary yesterday? I wouldn’t know because I refuse to listen to that Bob Barker looking clown.

    Dawgs win big in Jacksonville over those asshats and lock up the East as Tough Guy Stoops gets held down and given a red belly by Mississippi State. Oh and Auburn best Ole Miss so the Laner is done for the season. It’s great to be a Georgia Bulldawg!

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    • ugafidelis

      I can be concerned and enjoying it at the same time. 😉

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    • AR15 will be a problem for folks as he matures. He got a ball ripped, a ball tipped, and made a horrible decision on a stop route that worked for a huge gain on his second drive.

      But, he’s hard to tackle, and can mature into a more dangerous Mini-Cam as he adjusts to the college game and other pieces come together for him. Don’t think for a second that he will vanish after this performance. He’s a kid. Kids are damned resilient.

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      • iusedtopostasmikecooley

        Maybe so. I’ll have to see it. Mostly he’s hard to tackle. That’s about all he brings to the table right now. He’s not very fast and he does stupid things with the ball. He might end up being good but to me the “generational player” stuff was always and continues to be wishful thinking from delusional fans. And I’m not one bit worried about what he might do one day even if he does improve. I’d say there’s an even chance he transfers.

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        • “Generational Player” shit is always dumb until the kid has put a couple of seasons together. I understand that subjectivity and prognostication are two of the major draws of college football, but they’re also so wildly inconsequential. An achilles tendon can destroy the hopes of a “generational talent” in his first summer camp.

          I guess that’s part of why ya gotta love Kirby’s mentality. Get AS MANY of the best players as you possibly can. One 5* may flame out, but if you get 4-5 a year… well…

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      • originaluglydawg

        Yeah, maybe.
        The same thing has been said about Bo Nix.
        Besides, I think he’ll leave Florida. I hope he goes to FSU.

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    • originaluglydawg

      You realize a ten pointer walked quietly past your stand as you were reading and posting this morning, don’t you?

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  14. Have to agree to disagree on your last point, but Go you Hairy Dawgs!

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  15. Kirby/Lanning thoroughly out coached Mullen. They were ready for literally everything he had. Maybe that one wheel route to the TE, but other than that, the defense played like they knew what play was coming the entire game.

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    • fisheriesdawg

      Man, that one play where they had third and long and they ran Emory Jones in and left Richardson out in the right flat…and nobody bothered to even come up on him when he caught the ball because they knew he couldn’t make the first down line…

      That was chess against checkers right there.

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      • ugafidelis

        The announcers said he got that from Danny Wuerffel who employs it in his 7 on 7 league. Some offensive genius they’ve got down there.

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        • originaluglydawg

          Yeah..I quote my old HS coach a lot…(Lord, rest his crusty old soul).

          When a team runs sandlot trick plays it means they don’t thing they’re good enough to beat you straight up. He was correct!

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        • akascuba

          Tebow had dropped the MuLLLLen may play both QB’s at the same time hint during the week like his coach was the first to think of it.

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    • Texas Dawg

      The ONLY time I saw the defense looked confused was the 2 plays in the flats that Ringo was out of position on.

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  16. gotthepicture

    So the great thing is that Kirby is a Dawg and wants to win this one. It really means something to him & I love that about him.

    Regarding bullet-point #2, after reading comments blasting SBIV on-and-on, yeah, the first pass was just a bad decision and the 2nd was short and should have been further to the outside. He knows that. Remember, JT missed some long passes last year, too. But the point I want to make is that we are all armchair QBs or 2nd-guessing the coaches for what we think is best. Well, a lot of Florida fans thought they knew best and thought that AR was the solution to their problems, but from what I saw, Jones was a much better QB. So take a chill pill and and give Kirby and Monken a little credit.

    I’m still nervous about Tenn, Bama & the potential CFP opponents, but so far, I think the players are special this year and I think Kirby and the staff have done a pretty good job overall. They have the kids playing with the right mindset and keep pushing for excellence.

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  17. iusedtopostasmikecooley

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=luEhEDc9diQ This freaking guy. If he didn’t exist we would have had to have invented him. Contrast his comments about recruiting here to Kirby’s post game.

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  18. spur21

    I’ve always thought having the game in Jacksonville was a draw for recruits – much like a midseason bowl game. The way Kirby recruits I don’t think having another home game every other year will change anything.

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  19. practicaldawg

    I’m so happy for Florida fans that they finally got to see their generational QB start. They deserved that.

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    • Anybody who thinks Richardson is going to become Dak Prescott or $Cam Newton is just whistling past the Handbag graveyard. That pick 6 was one of the worst decisions I’ve seen an SEC quarterback make. Nakobe baited him into making the throw and just made the pick 6 look easy.

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      • practicaldawg

        He was clearly in over his head and blew what I believe will be his only chance to score on the dawgs. I think he’ll transfer out and wipe the slate clean. He’s the kind of QB that could do more damage in the B10 a la Justin Fields.

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      • fisheriesdawg

        He’s more Jared Lorenzen without the cannon. The best thing about Richardson is that he’s hard to tackle on designed runs. His passing is ok but not great, and he’s not particularly fast.

        He might have been a lot better 15 years ago before defenses caught up to this scheme. Along those lines, Tebow might have looked just as pedestrian against this UGA defense. They have similar skill sets. I’d be interested to see what this defense could do against Percy Harvin, who was always the straw that stirred that drink far more than Tebow.

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      • Got Cowdog

        I mentioned to RangerRuss when it happened: Nakobe ran that pick like a pass route. Just by Dawg beautiful.

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  20. practicaldawg

    I hope all the Florida fans that went to the concession stand with 2 min left in the first half got a to go box

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  21. W

    Kirby and Dan had a surprisingly long postgame embrace for two guys who supposedly hate each other. What’s that about?

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  22. On our way back to the car after the game, a Dawg fan was yelling “How ‘Bout Them Dawgs” and a Gator fan replied “How ‘Bout Them Bama’s.” I almost fell off the curb laughing. That’s all they got??

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  23. Munsoning

    David Hale on the WLOCP, ’21 edition:

    “How Florida got screwed, Part 109

    Georgia used a flurry of turnovers late in the first half to build a 24-0 halftime lead over Florida on Saturday, then cruised through the second half behind another dominant defensive effort, winning 34-7 and locking up a spot in the SEC championship game.

    That leaves Florida mired in a three-game losing streak, and the Gators have now dropped seven of their past 11. These are dark times at Florida.

    But is this really Dan Mullen’s fault the Gators are in free fall? We know last year’s loss to Texas A&M was just because the Aggies had too many fans during a pandemic. And the bowl loss, well, the season was already over in Mullen’s eyes. And as long as Florida plays Alabama close, that’s pretty much as good as a win.

    Then there’s this Georgia game. There are literally a dozen valid explanations for Florida’s struggles that Mullen could have offered if people were just willing to listen.

    Nobody cares about the final three minutes of a half. Florida’s first half ended at the 2:30 mark.
    This game was played in the state of Florida, yet half the crowd was made up of Georgia fans. Why is that allowed to happen?
    It’s not fair that Georgia gets all the five-star defensive linemen. They should have to share. Bad neighbors, really.
    Mark Richt lost control of our football rivalry.
    Mullen spent the entire week picking out a really great mask to wear to his postgame news conference, but you guys were really mean to him so he decided not to wear it. (Note: It was Ted Lasso. He was going to be the only person this year to wear it.)
    Don’t you want to be mad at Todd Grantham? That’s the whole reason Mullen keeps him around.
    Mullen started the QB all the fans were begging him to start, so this is their fault, not his.
    If we go by yardage, Florida actually won 355-354.
    Mullen hasn’t even seen Stetson Bennett I, II or III, how was he supposed to know what was going on with Stetson Bennett IV?
    Georgia should have been flagged for too many men on the field on half of their defensive snaps because Mullen counts Jordan Davis as two people.
    You guys would have loved the Ted Lasso costume. Mullen had a fake mustache and everything. Steve Spurrier was going to make a cameo as Coach Beard, but he left at halftime to drink a bunch of Coors Banquets in the parking lot.
    It’s the World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party. Of course everyone had a few cocktails before the game.”

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/gamedayfinal103021/a-tale-big-ten-michigan-state-ohio-state-line-good-great

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  24. PTC DAWG

    Well said Senator.

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  25. Munsoning

    https://www.alligatorarmy.com/2021/10/30/22754542/florida-vs-georgia-game-thread-shock-the-world#comments

    NC_Gator, Oct. 30, 2021, 7:13 PM

    “Here’s the thing

    The Gators probably win out, play a decent team in the bowl game and end the season ranked about 22. Unless somebody steps in, Mullen won’t really shake up the staff, and, behind a healthy AR the Gators go 10-2 next year and end up in a New Year’s 6 bowl.”

    Never change, Turds fans.

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  26. Munsoning

    I hate Jax, y’all, and would prefer to see the Dawgs whip the Turds in Athens and Gainesville. Not that Gainesville is any better a town than Jax. But playing an SEC rivalry game in an NFL stadium is just gross. As R.T. said, that’s just one man’s opinion.

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    • rigger92

      A product of the redcoats and witnessing this game from the inside, NO. It’s an event. The season ticket holders and away from Athens folks who go there? This game and location just works and it’s easy to say so after a win, but it just works. The old Gator Bowl and the new NFL site (ive never been to) makes this thing a huge boost to whichever team wins the game. Always has been. I remember freezing my ass off, sweating my ass off, winning and losing (my last one was ‘92).

      Opinions are what they are, this is mine. It only sucks if we lose.

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