1990 is just an attitude.

While I’m taking note of Stewart Mandel, I’ve got to give him real credit for something he said on his podcast with Bruce Feldman about Florida.  Dial this bad boy up to the 19:50 mark to hear Mandel speak about the attractiveness of the joint:

  • Hypothetically, if the USC, LSU and Florida jobs were all open, the Florida job would be the least desirable of those due to unrealistic fan expectations.
  • They’re unrealistic because, outside of the decade with Spurrier and Meyer’s shorter run, the Florida program hasn’t had a coach who’s sustained success, or, as he put it, “everybody else just flames out”.

You can tell Feldman wants to object, but really can’t bring himself to do so.  Truth bomb!

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37 responses to “1990 is just an attitude.

  1. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

    Said something similar to Floriduh fans over in the SDS comments. I asked them which is the outlier and which is the reality for Georgia and Floriduh.

    A team has won one or two SEC titles in every decade that the SEC has existed except for one decade where they didn’t win anything.

    A team that didn’t win anything in the SEC for 70 years (didn’t win anything in CFB overall for 90 years), then in the span of two successive decades won everything they’ve ever won, and then after that, went back to winning nothing in the next decade.

    Which is outlier for each team and which is the reality?

    The ‘turds sure didn’t like that question.

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  2. gastr1

    Is UGA a national program yet? Asking for a friend.

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  3. W

    So outside of the good coaches, the other ones aren’t good. Not seeing UF as unique here.

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  4. Finally, some objective perspective on the FU program…I’ll take it

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  5. mg4life0331

    “Due to unrealistic fan expectations”

    Is that a euphemism for shitty, jort wearing, mullet having dumbasses that got an inch and think their rulers?

    How about having to wear that stupid orange and trying to call yourself a man?

    Lots of reasons to not coach at Florida.

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  6. paulwesterdawg

    The Gators that joined the bandwagon after 90 are like the rich kid who was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.

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    • Spell Dawg

      Ahhh yes, I know quite a few of those types. Most of them go silent in times like this; they don’t bitch about how shitty they are or the changes that need to be made, they just pretend college football doesn’t exist.
      Boom->McElwain->Mullen has been so fn awesome, their (bottled-up) frustrations give me such joy 😀

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  7. uga97

    The 30th anniversary celebration of Nirvana’s Nevermind album was timely as FU fans don’t mind so much anymore.

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  8. biggusrickus

    Hasn’t everyone but Caroll flamed out at USC for the last 30 years? I want Florida to suck forever, but there’s really no reason they have to.

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    • Harold Miller

      On the list of things I don’t get about college football, why UCLA or USC aren’t better programs.

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      • RangerRuss

        Left coast easy living.

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      • My take on it is basically that it’s a result of the “culture” out here. The Bruins and the Trojans share a city, one which historically doesn’t have an abundance of College Football energy. There’s a lot to do and a lot to talk about, and college football just isn’t as omnipresent here as it is in other areas of America. Both teams play their games in stadiums that aren’t college football stadiums… UCLA’s is an hour-plus drive from their campus (but the tailgating scene at the Rose Bowl can be very nice). I’ve attended a few Bruins games, and the attitude around the games just doesn’t have the electricity that it does back in the south. Some might think that’s a function of the teams’ record, but even when Georgia stinks, game day is an awesome experience (IMO). When you go to the local lunch counter in the dead of summer, you talk to that jack hole in the Auburn tshirt about how bad your boys whipped em last year, and how good next year is looking.

        You miss out on that in LA, because you’re both still looking for parking.

        Can it be explained away as simply as Small Town Life vs Big City Life? I’m not sure – but I think that’s part of it. Also, the way the SEC has dominated the sport for approaching 20 years now has an effect on other conferences. These kids go on recruiting trips, and the flashiness of the SEC is likely more attractive than the historical grandeur of those two programs. Hard to build great programs without the players.

        That being said, it probably comes down to the simple factor of Want-To. The schools themselves haven’t shown a hard desire toward having championship football programs, and so they don’t.

        Go Dawgs.

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        • otto1980

          I don’t see it as big city life. In some areas of the country college sports are king. The Saints have won Super Bowls and LSU is king. Multiple Florida cities, Nashville and you could make the argument the Ohio NFL teams can not pass the College team or teams in their area. Charlotte and their NBA team is the same way. You’d think Charlotte being a bit of a drive from UNC would make their NBA team bigger than it is.

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        • biggusrickus

          I think USC wants to be good at football. it’s why they keep churning through coaches. In the short term, there’s no reason USC couldn’t get back to being a national contender if they hire the right coach. In the long term, I think high school football is going to die in California, and that will make it impossible to win there.

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        • College football fanaticism…the way it should be…does not exist west of the Texas border.

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        • Russ

          JT said pretty much this when people asked him about leaving USC for Georgia. He is too classy to trash USC but he made it clear it really does mean more here. Elite recruits notice that and want to be a part of it.

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        • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

          “You miss out on that in LA, because you’re both still looking for parking.”
          Great line. Made me laugh.

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  9. RangerRuss

    As I recall prior to MuLLLLLet taking the FU HC job his in-season TikTok dance partner wife was against the move from Mississippi State as she knew from experience what a shit show awaited them in Hogtown. Can you imagine anyplace being a less desirable destination than StarkVegas? Outside of some frozen, yankee shithole I mean.
    I can hear that grifter Cousin Eddie pleading with his wife now.
    “C’mon baby, four or five years of mailing it in, sunshine, shopping and Disney World. You ain’t even got to commiserate with those inbred, jort-wearing, Natty lite guzzling asswipes. We’ll bank $40 million plus severance and Lake Havasu City here we come! Hell they got the original London Bridge there. Or we can stay here in Starkville for the next twenty years…”
    “Well Dan my man, I did vow for better or worse. You call Mayflower Moving. Hey! Keep ’em on speed dial.”

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  10. I hate Florida. And I mean the whole state. Nothing good about it.

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  11. practicaldawg

    If they’ve been trending back to pre-1990 standards for the past decade, it appears they’ve firmly arrived. They seem like a mess institutionally if they retain Mullen. They’re going to have to basically sign a new staff under him with attractive buyouts. Grantham has left the cupboard bare on the defensive side for the next guy. The DC job just looks extremely unattractive without a rich buyout.

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    • Russ

      Yes, this. I’ve been telling people this ever since Kirby arrived. Richt even had a nice 3 game win streak but gave it back before he was gone. As Corch pointed out, Florida had a very nice 15 year run in an otherwise mediocre college football history. That run ended when Urban Crier faked a heart attack and left town.

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  12. beatarmy92

    I’ll repeat:

    UF had two of the five or six greatest coaches in CFB history. Both quit because of the fans. And outside of those two their entire history is, at best, mediocre.

    I’ve said this a hundred times on Twitter and message boards. No one ever strenuously objects.

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    • iusedtopostasmikecooley

      I don’t object but I have a question. The Old Ball Sack left because of the fans? I didn’t know that. Tell me more.

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      • beatarmy92

        After the 2000 season SoS complained about how the Gator fans would bitch incessantly even after a victory that they didn’t run it up enough.

        Urban said much the same thing. The stress of trying to meet the unrealistic expectations of UF fans was too much.

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        • iusedtopostasmikecooley

          Ten four. I didn’t know that. Reading their message boards for some good old schadenfreude has been an eye opener. I knew they were possibly the most arrogant fan base in college football. But I had no idea as to the depth and breadth of their arrogance. They come right out and say that they deserve championships. I get wanting them. But to think you’re entitled to them is just hard to fathom. I know Alabama is the same way but they have at least won tons of them. Florida’s history is from 1990-2005. And they think they deserve championships. Wow.

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  13. Remember the Quincy

    Senator, every time I click on your link it takes me to a Cubs podcast from 2019. I can’t find the podcast you’re referring to but would love to hear it.

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