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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
Get The Picture 
Has Leach ever opted out of a bowl game?
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Note that Leach said “players,” not “coaches.” Note that he could have said “coaches” and not “players.” I wonder why Leach said “players” instead of “coaches” when he could have said “coaches”? Semi-serious question: Why do you think he said “players” but not “coaches,” PTC?
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I think Leach just likes to hear himself talk most of the time…
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The charitable interpretation is that his players opting out actually affects his ability to do his job. What other coaches do is none of his business. Of course, this charitable interpretation is undermined if either Leach or any of his assistants have ever left before a bowl game.
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It’s possible that he was asked specifically about players opting out, not coaches.
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Do you think that Leach believes that coaches also “owe it” to players to not opt of bowl games, or is the owing only for the players?
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Ok mike just said, “Don’t come to Miss State if u want to protect your nfl draft stock…”
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No one playing for Mike Leach has a prayer of being in the NFL as more than a scout team player anyway.
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I’m assuming if a coach leaves before bowl game, he’s not getting paid.
If a student athlete decides to not play bowl, I’m assuming they are still on scholarship, stipend, and possibly using school brand to make NLI money.
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You mean the coach is working at his new school for free?
You know what they say when you assume. 😉
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I meant the coach’s current school quits paying when coach moves to new job.
Coach football = get paid
Don’t coach = don’t get paid
Play football = scholarship + whatever else
No play football should somehow still equal scholarship + whatever else???
Am I framing the argument incorrectly?
And yes, I’m all for open market approach to college football. It’s the only way I see the product staying viable long term.
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I reread the Leach quote. I don’t think he’s making the same argument I am.
I, too, think his “Athletes should play out of sense of duty or loyalty to school/coach/team” is a hypocritical stance.
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The attempt to rationalize hyprocrisy knows no bounds.
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Believe in 1st amendment speech and so on, at some point (history will follow you) does hc’s (as an example) contracts have guide lines concerning “coaches impediment speak”… cause that face plant should be enough to gag your hc for at least 6 weeks/or longer if need be…
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Maybe there should be a rule that if a coach leaves prior to the end of his team’s season, then every player on the new school’s roster is automatically entered into the transfer portal and are fair game for recruitment. This might incentivize schools and coaches to stand pat until the games are done.
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Yes, but what would really incentivize them is moving the signing date back to well beyond the last bowl game.
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I don’t like it, but I don’t blame the guys for opting out just like the coaches who jump ship on their players (most of whom they looked in the eye and said I’ll be here).
TBH, the bowl games did this to themselves. They agreed to be thrown aside for the playoff. Honestly, I doubt I’ll ever attend another non-playoff bowl game after the Sugar Bowl against Texas. Given my refusal to commit to Magill, I doubt I’ll ever get a playoff ticket either.
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I meant to say this before when I was giving you a hard time about Stetson Bennett (I felt guilty about it a bit because tt was you)–but thanks for your thoughts on here, ee. I personally always enjoy your perspective.
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I don’t even remember it. Everyone eventually squabbles on the Internet (otherwise, it would be boring). I appreciate the kind words and I enjoy reading your thoughts as well. All the best to you.
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Of course Leach said that. He’s a coach and it is a pain in the ass for him. Kirby feels the same but has enough sense not to say it out loud. Kirby knows it could negatively affect recruiting and he ain’t gonna let that happen.
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Is Mike losing anyone prior to his epic showdown with Texas Tech? Is that what motivated this?
Surprised he didn’t work “fat little girlfriends” into that. Definitely his favorite “I hate my players, actually” go-to move
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It’s almost as though spending their adult lives getting richly rewarded for being petty tyrants has convinced Mike Leach and his ilk that the world revolves around them. I’ll bet Leach thinks his dumb monologues on candy corn and weddings are downright Shakespearean. “Uh, that Hamlet ‘to be or not to be’ thing is pretty good, but uh, uh, what about my thing about candy corn and Haribo gummy bears?”
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I actually don’t care what Leach says or does – but I do find his drivel amusing.
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I’ll care what Mike says/thinks when he wins a championship.
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He’s got “IT” so it’s only a matter of time. Believe me!
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Doesn’t free college education. networking, loyalty, keeping one’s word, etc. figure into the equation?
I’m just old school, i guess…….
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For the coaches? Sure.
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Well of course slaves owe a duty to their slave masters. It’s in the Bible.it’s obvious that an unpaid student must work for an 8 million dollar a year boss.
I mean, it’s capitalism you commie pinko.
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Leach reminds me of one particular commenter on this blog. They both think the world desperately needs to hear (or read) every thought that enters their mind.
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