Bad timing, that’s all

There are a lot of D-1 head coaches who would kill to be third on this list:

Saban would be six for six, if not for a unicorn offense at LSU in 2019 — and even then, with a banged up Tua, ‘Bama only lost by five.  It’s Kirby Smart’s bad luck to be coaching during the Nick Saban era.

Which isn’t to say I’m not ready to see Georgia get over the proverbial hump…

60 Comments

Filed under Georgia Football

60 responses to “Bad timing, that’s all

  1. Everyone also has to remember Nick Saban had been a head coach at 2 different places before he won his first. He went to the NFL before he really was establish a dynasty.

    The fact that Kirby is doing this in his first (and, hopefully, only) stop as a head coach at any level is pretty darn amazing.

    Liked by 13 people

  2. Hogbody Spradlin

    There’s a bit resignation in the tone of that post. You ain’t going all Stockholm Syndrome on us are you? Somebody needs to cheer us up. 😉

    Liked by 1 person

  3. PatinDC

    The same could be said about Richt.

    Liked by 4 people

    • practicaldawg

      Was thinking the same thing. The Georgia Way is one of bad timing decade in and decade out.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Early in his career, he had Saban to deal with in 2003. I’m as big of Richt defender as there is, but he didn’t have the same mountain to climb that Kirby does. You could make the case Richt had to deal with Corch and Saban from 2005 on. Richt’s early career problem that Kirby doesn’t have is that Kirby has been in the playoff twice without being in the top 2 either time.

      Liked by 2 people

      • classiccitycanine

        If the Playoff had been in place during the prime of the Richt era, we would have been in on multiple occasions and probably would have at least one natty. Neither of Kirby’s appearances would have happened under the old rules.

        Liked by 3 people

        • Alkaline5

          Richt’s teams were only ever in the top 4 of the season-ending BCS rankings once, in 2002. His 2007 & 2012 teams finished 5th and 7th, respectively, and the knock against the teams in each of those discussions was that they had a regular-season blowout, followed by being jumped by conference champions in the final standings (I mention that because it has mirrored the justification for placing several teams at 5th or lower in the CFP era).

          Richt’s and Smart’s careers have had similar arcs up to this point, but so far Smart has started to really distinguish himself in their respective sixth seasons.

          Liked by 3 people

          • siskey

            The 07 team is the only one of the above-listed teams that I think would have won it all but as you said the blowout against Tennessee would have hurt us in the selection process. There was also the USC team that year that would have likely beat either OSU or LSU if given the opportunity.

            Liked by 1 person

          • D.N. Nation

            Bingo. I look forward to the WHYDJA FIRE RICHT crowd trying to compare the two during the Joe Cox Year.

            Like

          • I’ll always believe the 2012 team was 2nd-best in the nation.

            Like

        • D.N. Nation

          This is incorrect. Using the BCS formula, 2017 UGA would’ve played for the natty.

          2002 UGA would’ve made a hypothetical playoffs, but that’s it. 2007 and 2012 UGA would’ve been just short.

          Mark Richt coached half a decade during the playoff era, so we do have actual data points here.

          2014: No. Would’ve made a NY6 bowl but blew it against South Carolina, Florida, and Trek. Turned Gurley/Chubb/Michel into the Belk Bowl. Didn’t sniff the playoffs.
          2015: No. Blown out against Bama, blew it against UT, and a putrid performance against Florida. Didn’t sniff the playoffs.
          2016: First year at Da U, went 9-4. Didn’t sniff the playoffs.
          2017: Because of ridiculous turnover luck, actually had Miami in playoff contention until conference championship weekend. Humiliated against Clemson, humiliated in a NY6 bowl. Sniffed the playoffs.
          2018: Started the year at #8, dumped by LSU, sawed off a 4-game losing streak midseason including a loss to freaking Duke. Didn’t sniff the playoffs, and retired.

          Like

    • Migraine Boy

      Yep. Some of us came to the “Saban problem” conclusion late in CMR’s tenure, but there are some galaxy brain folks who seem to have just come to this conclusion now and it drives me crazy when i hear it

      Liked by 1 person

    • PTC DAWG

      LMAO, this again.

      Like

  4. voxdawg

    All true, yet without Saban’s leadership early in his career, Kirby the coach might not be the Kirby we have today. Gift of the Magi: Dawg Football Edition.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Some of the Bammers believe we’re doing the OJT for Kirby for when Saban retires.

      Like

    • Remember the Quincy

      That’s what I came here to point out. Kirby got his chops from the GOAT. The difference between him and most of Saban’s other former assistants is that Kirby spent an entire decade with him, and really got educated in Saban’s process. His assistants that are with him 2 years or so have often been much more influenced elsewhere, and they don’t normally built a replica of the machine found in Tuscaloosa like Kirby has.

      Liked by 2 people

  5. theotherdoug

    OSU is really the only team outside the Southeast that has a chance to hang with the big boys. If Day can’t right the ship they will slip back to Michigan levels.

    Dabo is in the ACC so the path is clear, but that dude is at a crossroads. We all see it.

    Add in UT and OU to the SEC and it’s easy to see the SEC Championship Game is about to be the National Championship Game if they don’t expand the playoffs.

    Liked by 2 people

  6. ASEF

    I’d say it’s Kirby’s good luck to be coaching during the Saban era.

    No Saban, Richt is probably still coaching UGA.

    No Saban, no way BM commits to the football program the way it has and tasks Kirby to manage all those resources.

    And no Saban, getting over the hump Monday wouldn’t have quite the same oomph.

    Liked by 4 people

  7. RangerRuss

    If it was easy to win the SEC and NC then Ray Goff would still be HC at UGA.

    Liked by 4 people

  8. cowetadawg

    Meaning if the Dawgs manage to pull off the win a week from now, there can be no Dawggrading. There will be attempts, no doubt, but that’s a problem I can easily live with.

    Liked by 3 people

  9. 86bone

    If you want to discuss bad timing, track down Johnny Miller for a chat. No telling how many more tournaments AND majors he could have won had Jack not stood in his way.

    Like

  10. huskyjeans

    Put Andy Roddick on the list too. He was 3-21 against Federer in his career and lost 4 slam finals to Federer.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. I will remind people it was Saban’s 10th year as a head coach before he won or even played for a national championship. Kirby is doing a masterful job.

    Liked by 2 people

  12. archmartyr

    Vegas must be fishing for some sucker money or something with that betting line because this game will be a bigger blowout than the SEC title game was. It’s going to start going against Georgia early, they’ll panic and it’s going to snowball from there. Nothing against them, I think Smart has done a very good job there but as this article accurately points out, he is coaching in the Saban era and that is over his head. Saban is playing chess, Smart is playing checkers.

    Alabama 45 UGA 17

    Like

    • originaluglydawg

      So what are you and Phyliss doing for the rest of the day?

      Liked by 4 people

      • RangerRuss

        LMFAO!
        After futilely trolling Prince Ave looking for a defunct Fox’s she finally told Phyllis, “Lesbeonourway, dahlink.”

        Liked by 1 person

      • archmartyr

        Speaking the truth can be unpopular but it’s the truth just the same. Be as insulting as you wish, but be assured I will be here next week to remind you how right I was.

        Like

    • PTC DAWG

      Show your work…..sports casinos are nearby, how much you have on the game?

      Me, I’ll take UGA and 28, how much you want to bet?

      Liked by 3 people

    • 1smartdude

      Not sure this is the same Alabama team faced in the SEC title game. Mitchie is out, Jobe is out and TWO offensive linemen left the game against Cincy. I find it hard to believe we can’t exploit that in some way.

      Liked by 1 person

    • ASEF

      So, Alabama loses its leading WR and 2 starting corners, maybe an OL or 2, and somehow it’s going to beat Georgia by 28 points.

      Brilliant analysis there, pal. Saban’s definitely in your head

      Liked by 1 person

  13. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

    Man… how did we turn this into another discussion about Mark Richt?

    DawgNation is a very schizophrenic group. If we’re not arguing with ourselves about the QB, we’re still talking about Coach Richt 6 years later. For the more advanced gents and ladies, do y’all still talk about how Dooley blew the 1982 National Title against Penn Statte in the Sugar Bowl on January 1, 1983? 😉

    Liked by 1 person

    • RangerRuss

      “blew the 1982 National title?”
      Stow it, Devil Dawg.
      We STILL don’t talk about that!

      Liked by 4 people

      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

        Fair point. I can’t even think about 2017 without PTSD flashbacks.

        Liked by 1 person

      • RangerRuss

        😉

        Like

      • olddawg22

        Was there at both and would change that game against Penn over 17! Barely

        Liked by 1 person

        • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

          That’s an interesting perspective. I’ve often thought of how Georgia would be perceived nationally if the AP wasn’t biased to the northern and Midwestern teams back in the 40’s and have given Wally Butts the two national titles he deserved as well as not screw over Charlie Trippi in the Heisman vote as well as Dooley winning in 1982.

          If we had four no doubt AP National Titles instead of the one, I wonder if we’d be viewed as on the same level as the Tosus and Miamis of the world, just below Bama and USC.

          Like

    • Derek

      The one word in that post that makes the most sense, coming from you, is “y’all.”

      I’m sure there is a “we” and an “us” out there somewhere just waiting for you.

      Like

      • You know, it’s been kind of nice seeing a decline in personal shots between regular commenters here lately.

        And then you come along with this. If you can’t avoid the personal, why not just ignore him?

        Liked by 2 people

        • D as in Dawg

          I truly enjoy the Corch/Derek rivalry. 😂

          I do feel we’ve all jumped on the SB bandwagon now which makes for a much more pleasant commenting experience. But if we shit the bed on Monday… Oh boy.

          Like

    • Russ

      That 1982 game took me a looooooooooooooooong time to get over. I was convinced we were the best team in the country by far and couldn’t believe we lost. I gained a lot of perspective that day.

      Liked by 3 people

  14. olddawg22

    Still not over 82! Still flashback every time Blackledge comes on the screen.

    Liked by 4 people