Dumb and dumber

Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle

Oregon defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux did an interview with FOX Sports’ Joel Klatt during the 2022 College Football Playoff national championship game Monday. Thibodeaux discussed attending Oregon over Alabama, and he had some things to say about the supposed quality of education at both institutions and why he chose the Ducks.

“I already hate the stigmatism of football players being dumb jocks,” Thibodeaux said. “So now, do you know the stigmatism of Alabama education? It ain’t the West Coast. It ain’t Harvard.”

Later in the interview, Thibodeaux continued to talk about an Alabama education.

“If I would have went to Alabama … I don’t know if my degree would mean anything,” Thibodeaux said.

Dude, you’re leaving school early to make millions in the NFL.  Who cares what your college degree means?

Welp, I guess this guy does.

ESPN college football analyst and former Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy took offense to Thibodeaux’s statements. He discussed it for quite a while on his radio show with Cole Cubelic — “McElroy and Cubelic In the Morning.”

“I just take real personal offense, man,” McElroy said Thursday. “I genuinely do. I don’t care. Don’t come. If you think so little of us, don’t come. Fine by me, because I know the people that live in this state. I chose Alabama, because I love Alabama. … If you don’t want to see Alabama for the greatness it can potentially provide you, it’s on you. You’re missing out.”

Cubelic and McElroy both chastised Thibodeaux for saying “stigmatism” when he meant “stigma.”

“He says he doesn’t like the stigma that athletes are dumb jocks, and yet, he sounds like a dumb jock,” McElroy said.

McElroy played quarterback at Alabama from 2007-10. The New York Jets took him in the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft.

“What I don’t understand is why he felt the need to cut down Alabama,” McElroy said. “And as someone who has always taken his academic situation very seriously, I’ll just come at him with this — if he’d like to take an IQ test, I’m available. If he’d like to take the Wonderlic test, I’m available. As a proud graduate with multiple degrees from Alabama, I will put my degree up against his any day of the week.”

I repeat:  Jesus H. Christ on a bicycle.  Dueling IQ tests?  Seriously?  If I were Kayvon, I’d offer to match bank accounts with McElroy after the NFL draft.

I don’t know about those two, but I feel dumber after taking all that in.


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64 responses to “Dumb and dumber

  1. David D

    This has been a bad week for Alabama. And I’m all lin.

    Liked by 15 people

  2. Greg simultaneously sucks and blows.

    Liked by 5 people

  3. It was a really stupid thing to say by the Oregon guy. McElroy should know better … don’t get a wrestling match with a pig. You’ll get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

    Oregon is #99 in the US News national university rankings. Bama is #148. Neither of them is sniffing Public Ivy status.

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    • fisheriesdawg

      On the other hand, Georgia is #48, which means the gap between Oregon and Alabama is practically identical to the gap between Georgia and Oregon. Seems like I know where kids who want good academics AND good football ought to be looking.

      Liked by 4 people

  4. Gaskilldawg

    Thibodueax is a 20 year old. McElroy is probably in his mid thirties. I get a 20 year old showing a lack of maturity. A guy in his mid 30s wanting to play the “I got accepted to Harvard, Yale and Princeton ” card is embarrassing.

    Liked by 6 people

  5. Maybe Thidodeaux really means that getting an Alabama education literally leads to stigmata?

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  6. Hogbody Spradlin

    Oh. One of America’s favorite pastimes: “I’m smarter and my s**t smells better because I went to [insert name of college]. You know it’s a TOP school, at least in my area.” We all have pride in Ole Siwash U, but it doesn’t make or break you.

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  7. The IQ test thing was pretty asinine, but if someone had said the stuff Thibodeaux had said about Georgia, I’d be pissed too. Then again, I might be too busy watching replays of the national title game to care.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Gaskilldawg

      Sure, you would be justifiably piss, but you wouldn’t go off on a middle school rant and embarrass yourself.


    • gastr1

      There’s no doubt this board would be in an uproar, had it been UGA insulted.

      Liked by 1 person

      • fisheriesdawg

        It would have also been stupid for someone from Oregon to talk smack about Georgia’s academics.

        Also, we’re all born and raised listening to this argument from Georgia Tech people because that’s all they’ve got. At this point, it’s all they’ve barely got, and it’s basically limited to a few narrow programs where they’re one of the best places in the world to study. Of course, their football players are rarely in those majors and most just ride the M-train (which is a great degree, it’s just not the kind of degree where you can turn your nose up at a UGA grad).

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      • Whiskey Dawg

        Greg doesn’t trust the intelligence of his audience. He should have played the clip, then stared silently into the camera afterwards for a few seconds, before moving on.

        Liked by 1 person

        • The mic-drop response from McElroy would’ve been, “Well, I’ve got a diploma and a national championship ring from Alabama . . . what’s he got from Oregon?” And then just let the question hang there in the awkward silence for a beat or two.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Without a doubt..


      • Down Island Way

        Ya get the feeling ol’ gregipoo is still feeling the sting from title game loss, so anything against the bammers is gonna’ set that boy into a whirl wind of flying horse shit…GO DAWGS!

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  8. ben

    One little championship loss, and they lose their collective minds. Who’d have guessed we were the program with better overall mental health after all?

    Liked by 4 people

  9. The Truth

    This probably isn’t fair to the kid because I don’t know how smart he is, but there are many people likely smarter than him who say stigmatism when they mean stigma.

    Liked by 1 person

    • stoopnagle

      Yeah, but if you’re banging on the state of education in a place and saying you’ve done better than someone else and then you use the wrong word and make a pretty elementary grammar error… Trust me when I tell you most of America doesn’t differentiate between Alabama and Georgia. We do, but people in Kansas or California do not.

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    • godawgs1701

      For what it’s worth, he’s widely acknowledged as a very intelligent kid. His malaprop there with “stigmatism” is unfortunate, but he’s a smart kid. As someone who works in broadcasting and public relations I will tell you that sometimes strange things come out of your mouth when you’re in front of a microphone and you have to speak for more than say, three or four minutes.

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      • dawg100

        He’s a smart kid, but loses it after speaking for just 3 minutes?

        Does he have a condition that causes mental fatigue after 180 seconds?

        My wife understands how to deal with that! 😁


        • godawgs1701

          I am not trying to hold myself up as some genius or anything, there are certainly many smarter people in the world than me. But I did earn a 1300 on my SATs way back when and I graduated from the University of Georgia’s Henry W. Grady College of Journalism and Mass Communications with honors, and yes, the number of times when I said something stupid or misspoke while being interviewed because I was thinking ahead to the next question or the next thing is in the dozens. I don’t know how often you’re interviewed on live television or how often you have to BE the interviewer on live television but if you don’t have that experience you’re just going to have to trust that it’s a lot more difficult than it looks. Have some grace.

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    • Russ

      I’ve literally never heard anyone other than my ophthalmologist or Thibodeaux say “stigmatism”.

      Liked by 1 person

  10. beatarmy92

    McElroy is an overly sensitive ninny, but Kayvon DOES sound like an idiot and an ignorant one at that.

    Liked by 3 people

    • godawgs1701

      If the guy had said it about Georgia, 95 percent of us would be reacting the same as McElroy. Come on.


      • dawg100

        Yes, but in our case, being ranked 100 schools ahead of Alabama, and 50 ahead of Oregon, we would have an argument!

        McElroy simply ends up highlighting that Alabama really is rated that low, almost in directional school tiers.

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  11. RC

    You could have ended the quote with “if I would have went.” Grammer is gud.

    Liked by 5 people

  12. Ran A

    Well this just writes itself. According to U.S.News and World Report, Public University rankings:

    Alabama – 67
    Oregon – 42

    Oh and by the way, the University of Georgia – 16.

    Liked by 2 people

    • biggusrickus

      Yes, that would have been the point to make by McElroy if he wanted to comment on it. The idea that Oregon is some elite school compared to lowly Alabama is silly.

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  13. stoopnagle

    First off, where you go to college, in terms of what you learn, absolutely does not matter. Higher education is more about what the individual is willing to do than it is some impact the institution has on the person. You can sleepwalk through Harvard but bust your ass at Alabama and you’ll learn more at Alabama. (Note: I said “what you learn” not who you meet or social networks or any of that career development bullshit – the dude said EDUCATION not EMPLOYABILITY).

    Next, this is probably where we note that the acceptance rates and mean inputs of student preparation are essentially the same for Oregon as they are for Alabama, so take that for what it’s worth. Just say you liked Oregon better. It’s OK. We’re all going to agree with you.

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  14. thenewandimprovedtronan

    I’d say both Thibodeaux and McElroy proved their points. Perhaps not in the way either had intended …

    Liked by 5 people

  15. mg4life0331

    But Alabama is slam full of dumb fucks? What am I missing here?

    Liked by 2 people

  16. classiccitycanine

    Hold up Greg! I need to get my popcorn ready!

    Your school is where rich over-privileged kids of modest academic ability go when they can’t get into their home state school like UT Austin or UGA. Don’t pat yourself on the back too hard.


  17. godawgs1701

    Look, I’m here for the Alabama slander always, but this Thibodeaux thing is absolutely the first time I’ve ever heard anyone refer to the University of Oregon as some great bastion of higher learning. His argument about having a greater relationship and access to Nike as a corporation made sense, but don’t dude, don’t compare Oregon to freaking Harvard. Get out of here with that nonsense. It’s easy to look smart when you’re sitting next to Joel Klatt, but just calm down and go get drafted and paid. Leave poor little old Alabama alone, they’re already having a bad week!

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  18. vectordawg

    “I would have went….” It’s gone, you moron! “ If I would have GONE. He should’ve been worrying about his high school education.

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  19. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

    I don’t think McElroy is anywhere in the wrong here, at all. I appreciate his fire, here. Especially in calling out the idiot the way he did.

    Liked by 1 person

  20. One smokes pot, the other is a dope. I rule a tie.

    Liked by 5 people

  21. iusedtopostasmikecooley

    McElroy is a little bitch.

    Liked by 2 people

  22. iusedtopostasmikecooley

    Bragging about where you went to school is the weakest shit ever.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. whb209

    “If I would have WENT to Alabama … I don’t know if my degree would mean anything,” Thibodeaux said.
    I am questioning his Oregon education

    Liked by 1 person

  24. dawgphan34

    I mean Oregon probably is a better school that Alabama, But Georgia is better than em both.

    I agree recruits, think about that education. Think about getting to stay on the east coast and getting a better than west coast education.


  25. spur21

    This appears to be a “my dick is bigger than yours” that regressed into “I’m a bigger dick than you” story.

    Liked by 4 people

  26. “If I would have went…” is also not the speech of a Rhodes Scholar, but I digress…


  27. Salty Dawg

    They both can go jump in a lake because I stayed at a Holiday Inn once.

    Liked by 1 person

  28. pansythedawg

    I bet I can piss father and longer than both of them! I’m available.


  29. 123 Fake St

    My college education was better than yours! Nanny nanny boo boo.
    Who gives a shit?
    After comparing their degrees, Greg got the better degrees.
    Business> Journalism.

    Someone should also tell Kavon that nobody will ever ask you what your GPA was.


  30. uga97

    Pawl Finebaum & his following disagree.


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